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Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #647
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Zorn List Digest Sunday, April 18 1999 Volume 02 : Number 647
In this issue:
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look for the hidden z content
Re: masada live cd / other tzadik release
Re: masada live cd / other tzadik release
Re: Recent Evan Parker Roundup
OFF TOPIC : Need Reccomendation For Poetry Class
re: Town and Country
Ornette's 'Broken Shadows' / Carcass question
Re: JZ live?
Chris Speed, Deviantics
FS (new) - Otomo Yoshihide's "We Insist?" CD
noh(bag) or Berne/Caine??
New web site
Re: Pino Minafra
Re: melford
Re: noh(bag) or Berne/Caine??
Re: melford
Re: noh(bag) or Berne/Caine??
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 99 10:16:21 -0500
From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com
Subject: look for the hidden z content
saw a really hot live band last night at tramps in nyc. i won't go on at length
because i'm a little far astray, but i thought of the latin playboys as just a
studio project (and for a long time a one-off one, with like 5 years passing
before their 1st and 2d records). but they totally pulled it off live, rocking
hard, getting dirty and surfacing acoustic and pretty. if you don't know, it's 2
of los lobos with mitchel froom and tchad blake on keys and bass (respectively)
and effects (both), along with a drummer. lisa germano opened and didn't much
catch my interest, but played violin on a number of songs, dueting nicely with
hilgado on violin and cello. but the surprise of the night, during one of their
hard-edged trips, was dave douglas strolling on stage, ripping out a solo that
led with mexicano lines and evolved into high-speed douglas blasts. a pretty
long solo, several minutes for a band whose songs are usually 90 seconds or so.
i don't know if anyone in the audience knew him -- from the looks of 'em, if
they did it was more from cibo matto than masada -- but he walked on quietly and
left to screams and cheers.
seems like he shows up a lot in pop projects. it'd be interesting to see a list
of his guest appearances.
since i broached the subj, anyone out there fans of greater lobosania? any
opinions on hilgado's "houndog" record? you can respond privately.
kg
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:10:01 +0200
From: patRice <gda@pingnet.li>
Subject: Re: masada live cd / other tzadik release
Vanheumen, Robert wrote:
>
> >or the title; it is the japanese woman who plays the koto. so you'll all
> michiyo yagi. she's great. alas you just missed her in NYC. she played in
> tonic and downtown music gallery and it was awesome...
>
> if you like the koto, you should check out miya masaoko in tonic, april 24.
>
> robert
thanks for the info, robert. "unfortunately" i live in europe, so i wont
be able to make it. but i see if i can find a cd by her. maybe you can
recommend sthg.?
patRice
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:11:39 +0200
From: patRice <gda@pingnet.li>
Subject: Re: masada live cd / other tzadik release
msvadi@mscc.huji.ac.il wrote:
>
> what`s koto?
>
it is a traditional japanese string instrument. check out the cd that is
now out on tzadik. it's very good! (check the tzadik site for info on
artist & cd title; i'm too busy to do this right now.)
patRice
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:40:10 +0100
From: Richard@rcvs.org.uk
Subject: Re: Recent Evan Parker Roundup
> I was sorely tempeted by the Waterloo disc as well. So Jon please tell
> us if it's as good as it would appear once you've listened to it. Be
> fair.
For my money this is excellent; one very varied 60-minute track,
from full-on free jazz to some very delicate playing. Rutherford
sounds particularly good on this session. A review will appear on
(musings) in the next update, possibly with mp3 extract. I
recommend it, especially if you like the jazzier end of Parker's
output.
Rich
- --------------------------------------------
Visit (musings), a resource for free jazz,
experimental and otherwise non-standard musics:
http://come.to/musings.com
...now with its own mailing list, musings-l
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:19:41 -0500 (CDT)
From: Paul Audino <psaudino@interaccess.com>
Subject: OFF TOPIC : Need Reccomendation For Poetry Class
Hello y'all,
I'm looking for recomendations for a paper that I have to write for a
poetry class. The assignment is to read a book of poetry by a "political
poet" and write a short paper. Since I picked up so many good books the
last time the lit thread passed by here, I thought that I would ask for
some ideas here. Oh, and the books cannot be by Amiri Baraka or the Last
Poets since I've a) writen about the first already this semester and b)
have already read the only book by the latter.
E-mail is probably most appropriate, but hey...
Thanks,
Paul
psaudino@interaccess.com
GROOVE
- ----------
One Nation
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:35:33 -0500
From: "John Thomas" <jgthomas@nortelnetworks.com>
Subject: re: Town and Country
> Tom Pratt <tpratt@ctech.smtc.net>:
>
>>.and while I'm at it, has anyone heard the new Town & Country disc on
>>xMedia? The description at Forced Exposure sort of intrigued me.
>>
>>Thanks.
Yes, I got a copy of it from Brent Gutzeit (who runs BOXmedia)
sometime back and enjoyed it quite a bit. I wouldn't associate John
Fahey with it (I think he is mentioned in the original description) but
"backporch minimalism" rock sounds kinda close.
If you like that kind of stuff, you will like this. If you already have some
stuff that fits this description, then maybe as Jon said, you can skip it.
I hadn't heard anything like this before so I found it fresh to my ears.
John
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:40:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: William York <wyork@email.unc.edu>
Subject: Ornette's 'Broken Shadows' / Carcass question
I found this on LP, sealed, today. I was pretty surprised since it was
only $7.99, and the CD versions of the Ornette Columbia albums are only
out on Japanese versions, for $20 or so. Does this mean Science Fiction
is on vinyl too? This can't be an older copy that's still sealed, I'm
pretty positive....So does anyone know about this?
Second Question: Is the Carcass "Symphonies of Sickness" CD that has the 2
albums on one disc still available in that form? (I think the other album
on there is "Reek of Putredaction"). Or did they split it up into two
discs?
Thanks,
WY
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 07:27:59 +0100
From: "vincent" <vincentm@linkline.be>
Subject: Re: JZ live?
Hi
I have some on analog tapes. Anyone who fancies a trade email me
privately.
Vincent
> Does anybody know of any "unofficial" live recordings from JZ,
> especially on DAT or CD?
>
> Where would I get out-of-print-CDs?
>
>
>
> -
>
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:38:16 PST
From: Tony Reif <treif@songlines.com>
Subject: Chris Speed, Deviantics
Hi, i wanted to let you know that we will be playing at the knitting
factory's old office, on april 16th and 17th, two sets, at 8:00 and 9:30.
It's a
record release event; i've included here a cd release sheet that i
hope is informative, thanks, c.s.
CHRIS SPEED
DEVIANTICS
Chris Speed, tenor sax & clarinet
Cuong Vu, trumpet
Skuli Sverrisson, bass
Jim Black, drums & melodica
SGL 1524-2 CD UPC 7 74355 15242 3 Release: April 6, 1999
Chris Speed's second CD leading the remarkable New York quartet of his
Songlines debut Yeah No (SGL 1517, released 1997) consolidates the band's
sound, and its group-centered approach to developing compositions through
improvisation, into a statement of unusual power, concentration and
feeling.
Deviantics combines hyper beats and ambient textures with eastern-inspired
melodies and rhythms to expand and derange the realm of downtown jazz/new
music. It is primarily jazz in its instrumentation, rhythmic feel, and much
of its harmonic language, but includes stylistic approaches drawn from free
improv, contemporary classical, Balkan dance music, and drum 'n' bass.
What's impressive is the way the group creates unity from such an array of
sources - moods and musical images with their own characteristic pull,
sometimes brash, bristling, and intensely groove-oriented, sometimes
haunted, seemingly suspended in their own time and space. The subtle
interplay and transitions reward close attention, the textures and colors
are often ravishing, and the solos and group improvs are both grounded and
structurally intricate. From Wheatsone's deconstruction of a jam in 5/8 to
the ambient balladry of Tulip and the modal cry and inspired drumming of
Valya, this is another record which honors traditions while creating its
own. The recording by Jim Anderson is 20 bit and live-to-two-track.
Born in Seattle, Chris Speed was raised on classical music, playing piano
from age five, and adding clarinet at eleven. After being smitten by jazz
and the tenor sax in high school, he switched gears to improvisation and
continued his studies at the New England Conservatory. In Boston he formed
the collective band Human Feel along with Jim Black; it recorded several
CDs, the most recent being Speak to It (SGL 1514, 1996). There he also
discovered the gypsy music of Eastern Europe, and this eventually led to
the creation of Pachora, a Balkan/near-eastern influenced band featuring
Black, Brad Shepik, and Skuli Sverrisson, with two records on Knitting
Factory (self-titled, 1997, and Unn, 1999).
In New York since 1992, he has served in bands led by Tim Berne, Myra
Melford, Mark Dresser, Dave Douglas, and Eric Friedlander while working
with colleagues Ben Perowsky, Briggan Krauss, and John Hollenbeck. In 1993
he received an NEA composition grant to create a piece for 12 musicians,
dedicated to Albert Ayler. His selected discography includes John Zorn's
Bar Kokhba (Tzadik), Berne's Bloodcount Unwound (Screwgun), Douglas's
Sanctuary (Avant), Melford's The Same River, Twice (Gramavision),
Friedlander's The Watchman (Tzadik), Dresser's Banquet (Tzadik) and Eye'll
Be Seeing You (KFR), Krauss's Good Kitty (KFW), Hilmar Jensson's Dofinn
(Jassis, Iceland, also featuring Sverrisson and Black), Mitchell Froom's
Dopamine (Atlantic), and Ron Sexsmith's Other Songs (Interscope).
Cuong Vu was born in Vietnam but grew up in Seattle and graduated from the
New England Conservatory, where he studied with Joe Maneri. His recordings
include Dave Douglas's Sanctuary, Bobby Previte's Too Close to the Pole,
Andy Laster's Interpretations of Lessness (Songlines), and Orange Then
Blue's While You Were Out and Hold the Elevator. He co-led Saft/Vu (Ragged
Jack, Avant), and leads the VU-TET (which features Speed, Black, Curtis
Hasselbring, and Stomu Takeishi), JACKhouse, and Scratcher (featuring Holly
Palmer).
Born in Reykjavik, Skuli Sverrisson graduated from Berklee College and has
appeared on over 30 records with Icelandic artists, including his group Pax
Vobis, and Mo Boma (formed with Carsten Tiedemann). He tours with Allan
Holdsworth (Hard Hat Area, Restless), is a member of Pachora and Brad
Shepik and the Commuters, performs improvs with Peter Scherer, and is
collaborating and touring with Laurie Anderson in her mixed media piece
Moby Dick. His solo record (Sermonie, Extreme) features tape compositions
"taking audio snapshots of the interior architecture of sound," joining
electronics and extended techniques for the electric bass; other CDs
include a duo with Anthony Burr (Desist, Staalplaat), Theo Bleckmann/Ben
Monder's No Boat (Songlines), and Full Circle's Secret Stories. He is
currently reconstructing improvisations with Speed and Anthony Burr.
Jim Black grew up in Seattle, moved to Boston in 1985 to attend Berklee,
and has lived in Brooklyn since 1991. He has been touring/recording with
Pachora, Bloodcount, Dave Douglas's Tiny Bell Trio, Ellery Eskelin, and Uri
Caine's Mahler Project, and leads a quartet, Beat Table, featuring
Sverrisson, DJ Olive, and Ted Reichmann. He can also be heard on CDs by
Michael Formanek, Saft/Vu, Peter Epstein, Satoko Fujii, Ned Rothenberg, Ed
Schuller, Carlos Bica, and Frank Moebus/Rudi Marshall (and on Songlines
with Douglas, Eskelin, Ben Monder, Bleckmann/Monder, and Human Feel).
For further information about Songlines releases and distribution/sales
enquiries:
1003 - 2323 W. 2nd Ave., Vancouver V6K 1J4, Canada.
Tel (604) 737-1632 * fax (604) 737-1678
e-mail treif@songlines.com * www.songlines.com
- -
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 08:51:47 -0400
From: pm.carey@utoronto.ca (Patrick Carey)
Subject: FS (new) - Otomo Yoshihide's "We Insist?" CD
Hello ...
Anyone need a copy of this? I've got a BRAND NEW (simply out
of the shrinkwrap) copy for $15 US ppd (NA)/$17 US ppd (ROW).
Email if interested.
- -Patrick
pm.carey@utoronto.ca
more sale items at:
http://www.astro.utoronto.ca/~carey/sofa/sale.html
- -
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 13:26:37 +0200
From: Tal Goldman <telly_o@softhome.net>
Subject: noh(bag) or Berne/Caine??
Hello all,
Suppose someone has a choice of seeing either Tim Berne's no(h)bag or
else Berne/Caine/Gress/Perowsky at the Knit festival .. which would you
recommend?
Berne/Caine strikes me as an unusual match-up - which personality
would predominate? Would Caine bring out a more melodic side of
Tim Berne??
Also, does anyone recommend seeing a particular one of the lesser-known
artists at the festival?
Thanks very much.
- - Tal
- -
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 15:59:18 +0100
From: "Scott" <scott@burntweeny.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: New web site
I have just uploaded a new website that may be of interest to some people on
this list. Called White Noise, it's a listings and information site
dedicated to non mainstream music events in Scotland. I will also be
including reviews and other content as I develop it. Please feel free to
check it out and let me know your thoughts.
http://www.burntweeny.freeserve.co.uk/
Thanks
Scott Russell
- -
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 15:00:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Waxman <cj649@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Subject: Re: Pino Minafra
Sean:
Run if you can get a chance to see the band. It's an all-star aggregation
made up of some of the top Italian improvisers inclusing Carlo Actis Dato
(reeds); Giorgio Occipinti (kb); Lauro Rossi (tmb); Daniel Patumi (b) and
Vincenzzo Mazone (d) and Mr. Personality, Pino Minafra himself.
In the Italian free jazz-vaudeville tradition, which includes people like
Gianluigi Trovesi, the band plays a mixture of what sounds like hard jazz,
blues, chants, pop songs, free excursions and melodic burlesque.
It has an excellent disc, Sudori, out on Victo
And check if Actis Dato wears his Dr. Spock ears at the show.
Ken Waxman
cj649@torfree.net
On Sat, 6 xxx -1, DR S WILKIE wrote:
> Hi,
>
> there was a thread about this rappin' trumpeter a while back - but
> does anyone know anything about his "Sud Ensemble", who're playing at
> Bath at the the end of May?
>
> Sean Wilkie
>
> -
>
>
- -
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 15:05:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Waxman <cj649@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Subject: Re: melford
Is this the new one (on Arabesque?) that has been rumored to appear
for many months? It hasn't hit this part of the woods yet.
Ken Waxman
cj649@torfree.net
On Sun, 7 xxx -1, DR S WILKIE wrote:
> anyone got the new Myra Melford cd with Douglas, Speed et al? Also,
> how does the newly remastered "out to lunch" compare with the normal
> cd; does it justify me buying it again?!
>
> recommenation -Michel Portal "Dockings" on label bleu (lblc6606) with
> Joey Baron on fine form and wonderfully recorded...
> Hywel
>
> -
>
>
- -
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 17:03:55 EDT
From: IOUaLive1@aol.com
Subject: Re: noh(bag) or Berne/Caine??
> Suppose someone has a choice of seeing either Tim Berne's no(h)bag or
> else Berne/Caine/Gress/Perowsky at the Knit festival .. which would you
> recommend?
Why couldnt you see them both? I'm assuming that theyre not playing at the
same time (might be tough for Tim to pull off)
I saw no(h) bag a couple of months ago- with Tim, Tony Malaby on tenor,
Michael Formanek and Tom Rainey. They played mostly Bloodcount material.
Very enjoyable.
> Berne/Caine strikes me as an unusual match-up - which personality
> would predominate? Would Caine bring out a more melodic side of
> Tim Berne??
I think this might be Drew Gress' Jagged Sky band... (Correct me if I'm
wrong) I've seen this same lineup before, and it was Drew's gig. This was
also great, and definitely more melodic. Take your pick.
- -
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:39:35 -0400
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: melford
Eric Saidel wrote:
> DR S WILKIE wrote:
> >
> > anyone got the new Myra Melford cd with Douglas, Speed et al?
>
> I'm in the process of reviewing this - thanks to Steve Smith who told me
> that it's excellent.
[snip]
And I could have said the same to the list, but Eric's succinct review was
so spot on that I see no need to reiterate or rephrase anything he said.
Go!
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
- -
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:48:58 -0400
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: noh(bag) or Berne/Caine??
IOUaLive1@aol.com wrote:
> I saw no(h) bag a couple of months ago- with Tim, Tony Malaby on tenor,
> Michael Formanek and Tom Rainey. They played mostly Bloodcount material.
> Very enjoyable.
They also played perhaps the best version of "Bass Voodoo" I've ever heard
live. I was at the same gig Jody mentioned. And one of the most enjoyable
things about listening to this band is hearing a new drummer working the
bloodcount material... you know how it's supposed to go with Jim Black manning
the engine room, so when Tom plays something entirely different (which is
*most* of the time) it really breathes new life into the material.
> > Berne/Caine strikes me as an unusual match-up - which personality
> > would predominate? Would Caine bring out a more melodic side of
> > Tim Berne??
>
> I think this might be Drew Gress' Jagged Sky band... (Correct me if I'm
> wrong) I've seen this same lineup before, and it was Drew's gig.
I saw this gig with Jody as well. It's not Jagged Sky (that's Dave Binney, Ben
Monder and Kenny Wollesen). But Gress, Berne and Caine, along with either
Black or Perowsky, have been working on this Gress side project for a while now
(several dates at the Internet Cafe, Tonic and the Knit). They play some of
the Jagged Sky material, but some other stuff, too. Drew usually brings his
pedal steel, and on the gig in question Perowsky was playing some interesting
drum-triggered synth stuff, as well.
Caine's presence doesn't really alter Tim's approach at all, to my ears. And
some of the most felicitous stuff happened during the times when Tim laid out
and the Caine - Gress - drummer trio laid into a massively funky groove thing.
So, as Jody said, see both if you can... there's lots of creative stuff
happening in both of these bands (even as "biased" as I may seem to be in
saying so).
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
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