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Zorn List Digest         Friday, April 9 1999         Volume 02 : Number 642



In this issue:
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       "Gism"?
       Re: "Gism"?
       Re: "Gism"?
       Invisible Design (was Re: Purple Trap)
       Sharp Putty
       Re: Sharp Putty
       cobra  editions
       Re: "Gism"?
       makigami koichi in nyc & philly
       could it be?
       Ribot Discography
       Re: I Want To Live/ The Water-Method Man
       Re: I Want To Live/ The Water-Method Man
       Re: could it be?
       Re: Ribot Discography
       Masada in Boston
       Re: Masada in Boston
       Re: Masada in Boston
       Re: Masada in Boston

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:37:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeni Dahmus <[e-mail]>
Subject: "Gism"?

Is anyone familiar with a band called "Gism"?  I may be spelling the name
incorrectly.  When I asked Zorn about his punk influences, he mentioned
that "Gism" (or something sounding similar) was a groundbreaking band.  I
found some information about an Oregon-based hip hop band named "G-Ism,"
but I don't believe Zorn was referring to that group.

Just a reminder to Zorn-listers in the Washington, DC area:  The Zorn
concert at the Library of Congress is tomorrow night (April 9) at 8 p.m.
Although the concert is sold out, some extra tickets are available at the
door around 6:30 p.m., or you can contact me.  The Masada String Trio will
perform, and Steve Drury and Jennifer Choi will premiere Zorn's new
commission, Le Momo.

Jeni





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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:03:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: alissa bader <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: "Gism"?

I think gism is a japanese noise band.

That's all I know about this.

- --alissa



On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Jeni Dahmus wrote:

>
> Is anyone familiar with a band called "Gism"?  I may be spelling the name
> incorrectly.  When I asked Zorn about his punk influences, he mentioned
> that "Gism" (or something sounding similar) was a groundbreaking band.  I
> found some information about an Oregon-based hip hop band named "G-Ism,"
> but I don't believe Zorn was referring to that group.
>
> Just a reminder to Zorn-listers in the Washington, DC area:  The Zorn
> concert at the Library of Congress is tomorrow night (April 9) at 8 p.m.
> Although the concert is sold out, some extra tickets are available at the
> door around 6:30 p.m., or you can contact me.  The Masada String Trio will
> perform, and Steve Drury and Jennifer Choi will premiere Zorn's new
> commission, Le Momo.
>
> Jeni
>
>
>
>
>
> -
>
>


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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:08:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Waxman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: "Gism"?

Maybe Zorn meant "jism"

Ken Waxman
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:37:13 -0500 (CDT)
From: Paul Audino <[e-mail]>
Subject: Invisible Design (was Re: Purple Trap)

On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Richard Gardner wrote:

> Laswell's new Tzadik - Invisible Design - is so lacking in anything creative
> I think
> the label quality control engine is off-line. Much better is Hashisheen -
> End of Law on Sub Rosa which certainly has its moments.

I dig _Invisible Design_.  It's pretty simple, and consists mostly of Bill
playing his bass with minimal other music.  Very nice to listen to.

Out 2 Lunch With Lunchmeat,

Paul
[e-mail]


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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:34:10 +0200
From: "Artur Nowak" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sharp Putty

Hi philozorners,

maybe this group was already discussed here, but I found recently this
message somewhere:
"1/2/99 Briggan Krauss' "Sharp Putty" from the Old Office [Knitting Factory,
NYC, USA]. This is sort of an all star group, featuring Briggan, Eyvind
Kang, Anthony Coleman, Kenny Wolleson, and Skuli Sverrisson."
I'm very curious about it, can someone provide more info please? I'm
familiar with three names (these int the middle), and they make me wonder...

    __________________________________________________________________
    Artur Nowak [arno AT silesia.top.pl]
    www.silesia.top.pl/~arno/default.htm - Discography of Bill Frisell


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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:47:28 -0500
From: Dan Hewins <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Sharp Putty

I actually saw one of the four sets they did on 1/1 and 1/2 (I think it was
set II on the 2nd).  It was a alto sax (briggan), violin (kang), keyboards
(coleman), elec. bass (skuli), and drums (kenny).  It was mainly
free-improv with a couple of compositions thrown in.  One of the
compositions sounded like a Pachoa tune, perhaps it was a Skuli comp.  In
any case, enjoyed it.  Especially because I was visiting NYC and I don't
ever get to actually see any of these guys play.  Wollensen was a joy to
watch.  I wished that they had done some more compositions though.

Dan Hewins


At 10:34 PM +0200 4/8/99, Artur Nowak wrote:
>Hi philozorners,
>
>maybe this group was already discussed here, but I found recently this
>message somewhere:
>"1/2/99 Briggan Krauss' "Sharp Putty" from the Old Office [Knitting Factory,
>NYC, USA]. This is sort of an all star group, featuring Briggan, Eyvind
>Kang, Anthony Coleman, Kenny Wolleson, and Skuli Sverrisson."
>I'm very curious about it, can someone provide more info please? I'm
>familiar with three names (these int the middle), and they make me wonder...
>
>    __________________________________________________________________
>    Artur Nowak [arno AT silesia.top.pl]
>    www.silesia.top.pl/~arno/default.htm - Discography of Bill Frisell
>
>
>-




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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:18:23 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: cobra  editions

steven,

i have found the knitting factory and tokyo operations cobra discs. have
searched high and low for any others. where did you procure these?????

~joseph


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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:16:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: SUGAR in their vitamins? <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: "Gism"?

On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Jeni Dahmus wrote:

> Is anyone familiar with a band called "Gism"?  I may be spelling the name

yeah, Gism are/were? a Japanese hardcore outfit.
somewhere between grind and metal.
i've heard some interesting, yet unconfirmed,
stories about the lead singer being
psychotic and thus their live shows were
always unpredictable and entertaining.

i don't believe they are a band any longer.
there's at least one CD available.
try Japan Overseas, they probably have it.

hasta.

Yes.  Beautiful, wonderful nature.  Hear it sing to us: *snap*  Yes.  natURE.


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Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 01:34:47 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: makigami koichi in nyc & philly

!*!attention!*!mark your calender now!*! (sorry for a bit long contents)

MAKIGAMI KOICHI,=20
VOCALIST,IMPROVISER,SONGWRITER,ACTOR,DIRECTOR,PRODUCER... best known as
a leader of the super avant techno-pop band, "Hikasu", will give a rare
performance in New York on Tuesday, April 20th, & in Philadelphia on
Friday, April 23rd.

nyc date: Tuesday, April 20th
Time: 8 & 9:30 p.m. (2 different sets)
Place: Knitting Factory/ The Old Office, 74 Leonard St. (between Church
Ave. & Broadway), tel. [phone], or visit
http://www.knittingfactory.com

8 p.m. set: Makigami solo
9:30 p.m. set: improvisation with Eric Friedlander on cello, and Ted
Reichman on accordion

ticket: $8 + one drink minimum

*******+++++++++++++++********++++++++++++++********+++++++++++++++++
Philadelphia date: Friday, April 23rd. 8 p.m.
as a part of IMP Concert Series at Highwire Gallery (137 N. 2nd St
Philadelphia)=20
KOICHI MAKIGAMI SOLO VOICE=20
 featuring Koichi Makigami (voice).=20
and=20
MAC O'HARA & THE HAPPY NEW EARS=20
featuring Captain Mikee Ciul, Camino D. Estado and Mac O'Hara (sound &
performance media)=20
For further info regarding the gig, please check
http://www.voicenet.com/~tosmos/pin.htm

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
also check Makigami Koichi's own website:=20
http://www.st.rim.or.jp/~makigami/index-e.html


****************
Many faces of Makigami:
Makigami Koichi is the leader of one of Japan=92s longest running
underground bands, Hikasu, which has evolved from an electronic pop band
to embrace world music, improvisation, noise and other styles. Makigami
has recorded numerous albums in Japan(with Hikasu only, he released more
than 20 full albums!), including his own, the star-studded,
Zorn-produced "Koroshi No Blues", a much sought-after import on
Toshiba-EMI Japan. In the U.S., he has two outstanding albums out from
Tzadik ("Kuchinoha" & "Electric Eel") He has worked and collaborated
with a great artists and musicians in a wide variety of areas and
styles, such as Takahashi Yuji, John Zorn, Ikue Mori, Otomo Yoshihide,
David Moss, Lauren Newton, Anthony Coleman, Umezu Kazutoki, Carl Stone,
Jon Rose, Guy Klucevsek, and Derek Bailey.
Since 1993, Makigami has also been serving as the organizer/promptor of
the monthly Tokyo performance of John Zorn=92s improvisational game piece=
,
Cobra which resulted a CD from Tzadik, too.

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

"At the turn of the last century, when the scientist Thomas Edison said
he listened to his gadgets and inventions with his teeth, people said he
was mad. A century later, techno pop pioneer Koichi Makigami is making
mad science of his own by connecting music to the effects it has on his
body. ... (section omitted)... For 20 years, Makigami's band Hikasu has
carefully maintained its experimental and playful attitude toward the
three minute pop song, combining quizzical details, mobile melodies,
rhythm boxes, and a reckless disregard for genre distinctions.
...(section omitted)... Meanwhile, Makigami is making music with his
teeth. An album of his 'kokin'(jawharp) duets with Swiss virtuoso Anton
Bruhin is expected to be released by Tzadik under the title "Electric
Eel." ...(section omitted)... The most recent Makigami album in the
stores is the 1997 collection of re-mixes of Hikasu hits - the liner
notes of which state Makigami's approach plainly: "The human voice is an
instrument that, more than any kind of synthesizer, makes the most
strange sounds possible." The album also features other contemporary
techno artists such as Ken Ishii and members of Denki Groove.=20
Listeners are advised to listen not only with their ears, but with their
teeth." - Anne McKnight for Asahi Evening News

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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 03:00:30 -0400
From: "wetboy" <[e-mail]>
Subject: could it be?

i recently picked up lowlife the paris concert by tim berne's bloodcount. i
noticed that the drummer was jim black. is this possibly the jimmy carl
black of zappa fame? if this was mentioned previously, i apologize 4 the
repeat


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Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:40:03 CEST
From: "Andreas Dietz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ribot Discography

I'm searching for a detailed discography of Marc Ribot, especially in
Patrice's quality standard. Can anyone help?

Andreas Dietz


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Date: Sun, 0  P E G A S U S   M a i l  2000 04:50:23 GMT0BST
From: DR S WILKIE <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: I Want To Live/ The Water-Method Man

I reckon the chances of finding it on vinyl are fairly slim ... but
it's prompted me to raise the topic of recording vinyl under water.
I have an unplayably scratchy copy of the IWTL/Gerry Mulligan Combo
album from which I derived an acceptable cassette copy by smearing
the record with water - while the stylus was moving through a pool of
water, most or all of the crackling disappeared.  I did the same to
Cruisin' With Ruben and The Jets, in disgust at the rerecorded bass
and drum parts on the CD version.  Once again, a triumph for the
water-method!  I've found, however, that it only works on old vinyl -
when I tried it on a late 70s issue of a chico hamilton quintet
record, the water wouldn't spread out; it kept reforming into drops,
as tho' more recent vinyl was waterproof/resistant.  A hi-fi shop
person was horrified, and reckoned I'd knacker my cartridge, but
(this gets really sad) I did dry it with a hair dryer afterwards (on
a low setting of course).  I think I'll stop now, but I'd be
delighted to discover that someone else is as crazy as me!!

Sean Wilkie

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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:19:54 +0200
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: I Want To Live/ The Water-Method Man

> I reckon the chances of finding it on vinyl are fairly slim ... but
> it's prompted me to raise the topic of recording vinyl under water.
> I have an unplayably scratchy copy of the IWTL/Gerry Mulligan Combo
> album from which I derived an acceptable cassette copy by smearing
> the record with water - while the stylus was moving through a pool of
> water, most or all of the crackling disappeared.  I did the same to
> Cruisin' With Ruben and The Jets, in disgust at the rerecorded bass
> and drum parts on the CD version.  Once again, a triumph for the
> water-method!  I've found, however, that it only works on old vinyl -
> when I tried it on a late 70s issue of a chico hamilton quintet
> record, the water wouldn't spread out; it kept reforming into drops,
> as tho' more recent vinyl was waterproof/resistant.  A hi-fi shop
> person was horrified, and reckoned I'd knacker my cartridge, but
> (this gets really sad) I did dry it with a hair dryer afterwards (on
> a low setting of course).  I think I'll stop now, but I'd be
> delighted to discover that someone else is as crazy as me!!

Kids, don't try this at home!

The method you describe is frequently applied by DJs all over the world
- - they sometimes also use beer or stronger alcoholic fluids. The end
result will be that it will be impossible to play the records WITHOUT
water on them (I've heard this from a few DJs, and from guys at a
high-end hi-fi store). Initial results are okay, but in the end you can
throw away your records, unless you are willing to ALWAYS have a glass
of water at hand (and change needles every night, as most DJs do).
I have used this method myself, but only on records that I consider DJ
tools - throwaway stuff in the first place. I'd never apply this to a
Les Baxter record!

That the water method doesn't work that well for 70s records is
understandable, because the 70s are probably the era that generated
the lousiest pressings. The 70s are really notorious for bad pressings.
So the quality of the vinyl probably prevents the water from spreading
out uniformly.

The solution is to buy a Record Cleaning device, and a good cleaning
solution.  I have just bought one here in Holland for about $50, and
the results are totally amazing. A few records that I had the intention
of buying new copies of turned out near-mint after treatment. Any
record that has minor surface noise and clicks will come out completely
mint. Even the sound of NEW records improves after treatment, because
the residu from the pressing process is cleaned away from the grooves.

The fluid is such that it is non-damaging to the vinyl, and will not
only remove the dirt accumulated in the grooves, but will also render
the records anti-static for a very long period of time (I was told, for
more than 10 years).

Furthermore, the process of treating your records, which takes about 5
minutes per record, adds to the aura that surrounds vinyl in the first
place.

Highly recommended!

Frankco.

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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:19:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Waxman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: could it be?

Nope, a completely different guy. Jim Black is a "downtown" NYC drummer
who also works with Ellery Eskelin, Chris Speed etc.

Check some Eugene Chadbourne discs if you're looking for more recent
work by Jimmy Carl Black, "the Indian of the group".

Ken Waxman
[e-mail]




On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, wetboy wrote:

> i recently picked up lowlife the paris concert by tim berne's bloodcount. i
> noticed that the drummer was jim black. is this possibly the jimmy carl
> black of zappa fame? if this was mentioned previously, i apologize 4 the
> repeat
>
>
> -
>
>

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Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 08:37:28 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Ribot Discography

On Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:40:03 CEST  "Andreas Dietz" wrote:
>
> I'm searching for a detailed discography of Marc Ribot, especially in
> Patrice's quality standard. Can anyone help?

I have one...

    Patrice.

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Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 14:52:00 -0400
From: Kevin Neales <[e-mail]>
Subject: Masada in Boston

I just saw the schedule for the Bell Atlantic Jazz Fest(formerly the
Texaco Jazz Fest.) They are having events in other cities this year.
The Boston schedule includes Masada and Don Byron at the Somerville
Theater on May 29th.  I can't wait.

Also, on the Knitting Factory site they mention opening other locations
starting with London  and possibly Los Angeles, Denver, and Amsterdam.
Is there an avant-garde scene in Denver???



                                                     Kevin Neales

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Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 13:16:03 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Masada in Boston

On Fri, 09 Apr 1999 14:52:00 -0400  Kevin Neales wrote:
>
> Also, on the Knitting Factory site they mention opening other locations
> starting with London  and possibly Los Angeles, Denver, and Amsterdam.
> Is there an avant-garde scene in Denver???
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
They might have forgotten to remove this annoucement 3 years ago :-).

    Patrice.


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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:37:46 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Masada in Boston

In a message dated 4/9/99 3:04:46 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< Also, on the Knitting Factory site they mention opening other locations
starting with London  and possibly Los Angeles, Denver, and Amsterdam.
Is there an avant-garde scene in Denver??? >>

what does the Knitting Factory have to do with the avant-garde scene?

ok, ok, no flames. it's just a joke, and a not very good, NY-centric one at
that.

Jon

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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:07:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Waxman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Masada in Boston

Considering some of the people playing the non-NYC dates, the question
could be asked if there's an avant garde scene outside of Manhattan?

We know there is. But if you look at the Washington etc. calendars you'll
see little local avant garde participation and the out-of-town acts being
brought in, more mainstream than "out"

Ken Waxman
[e-mail]



On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Patrice L. Roussel wrote:

>
> On Fri, 09 Apr 1999 14:52:00 -0400  Kevin Neales wrote:
> >
> > Also, on the Knitting Factory site they mention opening other locations
> > starting with London  and possibly Los Angeles, Denver, and Amsterdam.
> > Is there an avant-garde scene in Denver???
>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> They might have forgotten to remove this annoucement 3 years ago :-).
>
>     Patrice.
>
>
> -
>
>

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