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Zorn List Digest       Wednesday, March 17 1999       Volume 02 : Number 624



In this issue:
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       dc jewish music list?
       and on a similar jewmu note..
       thelonious monk
       Re: thelonious monk
       Re: thelonious monk
       Re: thelonious monk
       Re:valente/stewart
       Re: and on a similar jewmu note..
       Re: and on a similar jewmu note..
       Re: thelonious monk
       Re: thelonious monk
       The Alter Rebbe's Nigun
       Re: thelonious monk
       Derek Bailey in Atlanta
       Re: great news for (old) Terry Riley lovers
       Re: great news for (old) Terry Riley lovers
       zorn trade
       Re: great news for (old) Terry Riley lovers
       Gentlemen, start your engines - Live Masada series begins in April
       R: thelonious monk
       David Krakauer 2/20/99
       Re: great news for (old) Terry Riley lovers
       Re: The Alter Rebbe's Nigun

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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 15:50:25 -0500 (EST)
From: alissa bader <[e-mail]>
Subject: dc jewish music list?

I'd like to start a jewish music mailing list, specifically targeted
towards stuff in the washington, dc (and maybe baltimore) area.

question is, would this be an overlap to anything that's already out
there?  I mean to make something that's a companion to what exists, not a
competitor.

thanks!

- --alissa
[e-mail]


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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 15:57:52 -0500 (EST)
From: alissa bader <[e-mail]>
Subject: and on a similar jewmu note..

is the knitting factory having another seder this year?

anyone know?

- --alissa
[e-mail]


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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 16:08:20 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: thelonious monk

hello-
anyone on this list aware of any monk biographies available that you can
direct me to?
secondly, does anyone know what carla bley is up to these days? "escalator
over the hill" ('72?!) was one of the major turning points in my listening-
thanks-
julian


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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:20:58 -0800
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: thelonious monk

On Tue, 16 Mar 1999 16:08:20 EST  [e-mail] wrote:
>
> hello-
> anyone on this list aware of any monk biographies available that you can
> direct me to?

There are currently three Monk biographies in print.

*** - ???: DeWilde (???)
*** - STRAIGHT, NO CHASER - THE LIFE AND GENIUS OF THELONIOUS MONK: Leslie
      Gourse (1997 - Schirmer Books)
*** - THELONIOUS MONK: Thomas Fitterling (1997 - Berkeley Hills)

> secondly, does anyone know what carla bley is up to these days? "escalator
> over the hill" ('72?!) was one of the major turning points in my listening-

A couple months ago a new Carla Bley record was released:

*** - FANCY CHAMBER MUSIC: Carla Bley (ECM/Watt)

Anybody knows if we can expect a new version of ESCALATOR OVER THE HILL
(with David Moss!!!)?

    Patrice.

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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 16:24:52 -0500 (EST)
From: eric ong <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: thelonious monk

> secondly, does anyone know what carla bley is up to these days? "escalator
> over the hill" ('72?!) was one of the major turning points in my listening-

Have you heard "Tropic Appetites" as well?  That'd be right up your alley
if you like EOTH.  Anyway, she just kinda released a new album called
"Fancy Chamber Music" (ECM).  I've heard mixed reviews, so I didn't pick
it up.  I wish I could tell you more.

In other Carla Bley-related news, Gary Valente, a sideman featured
extensively on Carla's work, appears on the new Lester Bowie.  I recommend
the new Lester Bowie, btw, which has been discussed here before.  Some
amazing tuba work from Bob Stewart.

eric.



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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 16:29:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Ken Waxman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: thelonious monk

All of the existing Monk books have been described as less than stellar.
However Peter Keepnews, whose father Orin was Monk's producer, and who is
a music journalist himself, has been working on the definitive Monk book
for the past decade or so.

Ken Waxman
[e-mail]




On Tue, 16 Mar 1999, Patrice L. Roussel wrote:

>
> On Tue, 16 Mar 1999 16:08:20 EST  [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> > hello-
> > anyone on this list aware of any monk biographies available that you can
> > direct me to?
>
> There are currently three Monk biographies in print.
>
> *** - ???: DeWilde (???)
> *** - STRAIGHT, NO CHASER - THE LIFE AND GENIUS OF THELONIOUS MONK: Leslie
>       Gourse (1997 - Schirmer Books)
> *** - THELONIOUS MONK: Thomas Fitterling (1997 - Berkeley Hills)
>
> > secondly, does anyone know what carla bley is up to these days? "escalator
> > over the hill" ('72?!) was one of the major turning points in my listening-
>
> A couple months ago a new Carla Bley record was released:
>
> *** - FANCY CHAMBER MUSIC: Carla Bley (ECM/Watt)
>
> Anybody knows if we can expect a new version of ESCALATOR OVER THE HILL
> (with David Moss!!!)?
>
>     Patrice.
>
> -
>
>

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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 16:44:12 -0500 (EST)
From: Ken Waxman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:valente/stewart

If you like Bob Stewart, you should also pick up his excellent Postcards
CD, "Then And Now", with a rotating cast, that features him playing with
everyone from pianist Dave Burrell and tromboninst Steve Turre to
vocalist Taj Mahal.

Valente, whose best solo, IMHO, is on "The Lord Is Listenin' To Ya,
Hallelujah!"
on Bley's 1982 "Live" session (Watt/ECM), also does some fine work
on  George Schuller's "Lookin' Up From Down Below" on GM records.

He's a true unsung hero.

Ken Waxman
[e-mail]



On Tue, 16 Mar 1999, eric ong :,

 Gary Valente, a sideman featured
> extensively on Carla's work, appears on the new Lester Bowie.  I recommend
> the new Lester Bowie, btw, which has been discussed here before.  Some
> amazing tuba work from Bob Stewart.
>
> eric.
>
>
>
> -
>
>

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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 15:51:24 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph S. Zitt" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: and on a similar jewmu note..

On Tue, 16 Mar 1999, alissa bader wrote:

>
> is the knitting factory having another seder this year?

There's no sign of one on their website, which is a shame -- I enjoyed
virtually "attending" the previous ones.

- - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1----------
|||/ Joseph Zitt ===== [e-mail] ===== Human Systems \|||
||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \||
|/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \|


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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 16:52:40 -0500 (EST)
From: alissa bader <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: and on a similar jewmu note..

hm, I should have stopped by the knit when i was in nyc last weekend.

maybe i'll call them and ask.

i tried emailing them, but no response as of yet (and I sent the email out
over a week ago)

- --alissa
[e-mail]

On Tue, 16 Mar 1999, Joseph S. Zitt wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Mar 1999, alissa bader wrote:
>
> >
> > is the knitting factory having another seder this year?
>
> There's no sign of one on their website, which is a shame -- I enjoyed
> virtually "attending" the previous ones.
>
> - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1----------
> |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== [e-mail] ===== Human Systems \|||
> ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \||
> |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \|
>
>


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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 15:21:17 PST
From: "Boris Campan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: thelonious monk

There is another good biography of Thelonious Monk available in French
but I don't know if it's translated in English.

Blue Monk, Portrait de Thelonious
by Jacques Ponzio and Francois Postif.
published by Actes Sud

Personally I think it's far better than the bio from the French pianist
Laurent Dewilde.


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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 15:40:59 -0800
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: thelonious monk

On Tue, 16 Mar 1999 15:21:17 PST  "Boris Campan" wrote:
>
>
> There is another good biography of Thelonious Monk available in French
> but I don't know if it's translated in English.
>
> Blue Monk, Portrait de Thelonious
> by Jacques Ponzio and Francois Postif.
> published by Actes Sud
>
> Personally I think it's far better than the bio from the French pianist
> Laurent Dewilde.

From what I heard, the Dewilde is a great book on Monk written from a pianist
perspective. It does not really fit the definition of a bio in the traditional
sense and might disappoint a reader looking for the nitty-gritty details
about the life of the musician.

The Ponzio and Postif, like the two others I mentioned, are more of the
regular type bio. I remember browsing through the Leslie Gourse one and find-
ing it fairly mediocre (a simple collection of facts with almost no insights
or sparks of brilliance -- I felt that Monk deserved better and that there
should be a law to prevent mediocre people writing about geniuses (assuming
that they are not smart enough to avoid tackling something that is well
above their head)).

    Patrice.


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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 06:30:38 -0300
From: Gabriel Lichtmann <[e-mail]>
Subject: The Alter Rebbe's Nigun

    Just bought this  record and I think its amazing. Does anybody know
anything about this guys or about PHLEGM, the "punk unit" to which they
belong? Were they really orthodox hasidic students before (and do they
really look like they do  in the picture printed inside the booklet)?
Coming from a jewish background myself I know how narrow minded this
guys can be and it amazes me someone with this kind of upbringing could
have made such a joyful subversive noise.

                          Gabriel Lichtmann

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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 23:05:10 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: thelonious monk

There is also a movie on Monk which is on video - "Straight No Chaser"

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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 23:21:29 -0500
From: Lang Thompson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Derek Bailey in Atlanta

If anybody's interested I'll also post the preview I wrote for the local
alternative paper (though there's nothing most Zorn listers don't know).

LT


>Derek Bailey, guitar
>Dennis Palmer, keyboards
>Bob Stagner, percussion
>
>Solo, Duo & Trio Improvisations
>
>8:30pm, Saturday, March 27, 1999
>
>First Existentialist Congregation
>470 Candler Park Drive, NE
>Atlanta, GA
>
>Tickets: $10.in advance, available exclusively at:
>Wax'n'Facts, 432 Moreland Ave,NE  Atlanta, GA  404-525-2275
>or $12.at the door
>
>An Earthshaking Euphonic Old Gold WREK Production
>
>Tune in to WREK 91.1 FM on Sunday, March 21 for a Derek Bailey special
>from 8-10pm
>
>Bailey/Palmer/Stagner will also be performing in Chattanooga, TN on
>Wednesday, March 24
>with the Olivia Tremor Control.
>For more info, call 423-265-6820 or [e-mail]
>
>An excellent source for more info on Derek Bailey can be found at:
>www.shef.ac.uk/misc/rec/ps/efi/
>
- ----------------------------------------------
Lang Thompson
http://www.tcf.ua.edu/wlt4

World Cinema Review
http://www.tcf.ua.edu/wlt4/wcr.htm

"The heavy bullets sounded like howitzers in
the dry, airless late-afternoon air."
from Michael Avallone's The Patridge Family

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 00:37:58 -0500
From: Steve Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: great news for (old) Terry Riley lovers

SUGAR in their vitamins? wrote:

> > Terry Riley Poppy Nogood and the Phantom Band Volume 1   (1968)
> > organ of Corti 4
>
> i feel confused. are there multiple versions
> of this recording? didn't
> Cortical release this a few years ago?

Yes, they did.  The good news is that Koch has picked up the label for
distribution, so you'll actually be able to *find* this and the other Cortical
releases.

The March Koch release book includes the two Riley reissues "Olson III" and
"Poppy Nogood" as well as a single disc culled from the Los Angeles Free Music
Society 10 CD set, titled "Unboxed."  Also from Koch in March, a new label called
Xeric bows with a single CD solo disc by Mats Gustafsson, "The Education of Lars
Jerry."  But about the Xeric label I know nothing at all.

Steve Smith
[e-mail]
NP - Marianne Nowottny, "Little Harem Girl," _Afraid of Me_


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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 00:54:47 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: great news for (old) Terry Riley lovers

In a message dated 3/17/99 12:47:47 AM, [e-mail] writes:

<< Also from Koch in March, a new label called
Xeric bows with a single CD solo disc by Mats Gustafsson, "The Education of
Lars
Jerry."  But about the Xeric label I know nothing at all. >>

I looked at this catalog a few weeks ago, and I thought I remembered the
Gustafsson disc had interesting sidemen, but I can't remember who, and maybe
I'm wrong.

Xeric is a new sublabel of Table Of The Elements, who Koch is also now
distributing. they have a Paul Panhuysen CD slated in March, along with a new
Richard Youngs CD. we'll see if TOTE is able to hit their release dates any
better now that Koch is distributing them.

Jon

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 00:59:01 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: zorn trade

hello all
   i won't take up too much space with this reqest. i haven't traded in a
while and would like to possibly set up another trade or two. i have a trade
list. anyone interested please email me privately. attach your trade list or
send url.
i'm looking to trade for live zorn, patton, merzbow, masonna, otomo
yoshihide.....etc. audio or video.
anyone have any of the zorn/patton/lombardo or "phono sanjo" sets please let
me know.
thanks. peace.
jt

[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 01:08:15 -0500
From: Steve Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: great news for (old) Terry Riley lovers

[e-mail] wrote:

> << Also from Koch in March, a new label called
> Xeric bows with a single CD solo disc by Mats Gustafsson, "The Education of
> Lars
> Jerry."  But about the Xeric label I know nothing at all. >>
>
> I looked at this catalog a few weeks ago, and I thought I remembered the
> Gustafsson disc had interesting sidemen, but I can't remember who, and maybe
> I'm wrong.

Barry Guy, Paul Lovens and Marilyn Crispell are all listed as folks with whom
Mats has collaborated, but this is listed as "his second solo record."  It's
produced by Jim O'Rourke.

Steve Smith
[e-mail]
NP - Marianne Nowottny, "Little Harem Girl," _Afraid of Me_ (same track as last
time, because the disc's finished and started over since then...)


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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 01:23:29 -0500
From: Steve Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Gentlemen, start your engines - Live Masada series begins in April

The wait appears to be over.  In the April 1999 Koch release book, the
first of the long-promised live Masada sets is listed:

MASADA LIVE IN JERUSALEM
TZA CD 7322
Archival Series - DDD - 2 CDs

Dave Douglas / John Zorn / Greg Cohen / Joey Baron

Piram / Both Aneth / Lachish / Peliyot / Hadasha / Ravayah / Zebdi /
Tirzah / Hekhal / Kanah / Shilhim / Ziphim / Abidan / Netivot / Zelah /
Idalah-Abal / Jair / Ashnah

Every working band has magical nights - nights when everything fits
together and the music takes off into the stratosphere.  The MASADA LIVE
series documents these unforgettable concerts recorded in venues around
the world, bringing these rare special moments to you in beautiful 2 CD
packages.  This first set presents Masada's historic visit to Israel,
their first appearance at the world famous Jerusalem Festival.  A very
special moment in the life of one of the most exciting jazz groups
working today.  This is Masada at their very best.
==================
Also announced in the Koch book for April: another Cortical Foundation
release of archival Terry Riley (Untitled Organ, Dorian Reeds, In C -
Mantra); a disc from the Knitting Factory's Jewish Alternative Movement
imprint titled "Zohar" by Uri Caine, Aaron Bensoussan, DJ Olive and
others; and, at long last, a CD pressing of the Anthony Braxton / Gino
Robair duo album long available only on fairly flimsy vinyl from
Rastascan.  Street date for all of the above is Tuesday, April 20 for
the U.S.

Steve Smith
[e-mail]
NP - Marianne Nowottny, "Afraid of Me," _Afraid of Me_


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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 07:42:32 +0100
From: "Francesco Martinelli" <[e-mail]>
Subject: R: thelonious monk

>All of the existing Monk books have been described as less than stellar.
>However Peter Keepnews, whose father Orin was Monk's producer, and who is
>a music journalist himself, has been working on the definitive Monk book
>for the past decade or so.


the DeWilde is about him more than about Monk, Gourse is gossipy as usual,
Fitterling is by far the best and in my opinion quite good.
I don't know jacques ponzio's book, in french only anyway
ciao
Francesco


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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 00:00:32 -0700 (MST)
From: Corey Marc Fogel <[e-mail]>
Subject: David Krakauer 2/20/99

Did anyone tape this show at the KF? A good friend of mine was the bass player
and I wasnt able to see it..because I live 3,000 miles away. so its relatively
important...so if you taped it or know someone who did, PLEASE REPLY!!!!!!!!!!

thanks!
corey



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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 02:27:05 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: great news for (old) Terry Riley lovers

In a message dated 3/17/99 1:09:41 AM, [e-mail] writes:

<<Barry Guy, Paul Lovens and Marilyn Crispell are all listed as folks with
whom
Mats has collaborated, but this is listed as "his second solo record."  It's
produced by Jim O'Rourke.>>

whoops. sorry for doubting you, Steve.

<<NP - Marianne Nowottny, "Little Harem Girl," _Afraid of Me_ >>

how is this? I was very intrigued from the article in the NY Press a few weeks
ago, but I couldn't quite decide if it would be too close to a novelty record
or not.

Jon


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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:54:26 +1100
From: "Julian" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The Alter Rebbe's Nigun

>     Just bought this  record and I think its amazing. Does anybody know
> anything about this guys or about PHLEGM, the "punk unit" to which they
> belong? Were they really orthodox hasidic students before (and do they
> really look like they do  in the picture printed inside the booklet)?
> Coming from a jewish background myself I know how narrow minded this
> guys can be and it amazes me someone with this kind of upbringing could
> have made such a joyful subversive noise.

They're two pretty regular looking guys (not like the picture!) who enjoy
playing (or perhaps trying to play) anything in that punk/improv/noise
field - they've been involved with Australian tours of Mr Bungle and Secret
Chiefs (and others), playing improv/game pieces with them. Their latest
project is called Testicle Candy. I've found Robbie and Oren's work pretty
so-so when I have seen them around, but they usually manage to get someone
good to play with them, which can help.


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