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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #426
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Zorn List Digest Monday, July 27 1998 Volume 02 : Number 426
In this issue:
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Re: Dumitrescu
Xenakis non-web info
Tom Waits on Epitaph
painkiller cover
Re: JMT Distribution
"New Thing" Impulse & Verve & Myra
Min Xiao-Fen at Tonic
Masada disks cheap
Masada Disks
Re: Masada Disks
Avant Discs (recs req)
Re: Avant Discs (recs req)
semiotext(e)
Re: Avant Discs (recs req)
RE: Masada Disks
San Francisco Jazz Festival
Chicago jazz fest
Re: "New Thing" Impulse & Verve & Myra
Re: Masada Disks
Re: Pachora
Re: "New Thing" Impulse
Re: "New Thing" Impulse & Verve & Myra
Query for Yugoslavian music
Re: Query for Yugoslavian music
Re: Query for Yugoslavian music
Tom Waits/Johnny Dowd
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:06:56 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Dumitrescu
On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 22:04:08 -0400 Perfect Sound Forever wrote:
>
> Resonance vol 6 no 1 has a very good interview with him by Tim Hodgkinson.
> This issue also features interviews with Butch Morris, George Lewis and
> John Zorn as well as a CD with tracks from all of them. Excellent
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Almost, but none with John.
Patrice.
- -
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:16:39 -0400
From: Glenn_Lea@avid.com
Subject: Xenakis non-web info
Someone was asking about Xenakis info...
"Conversations with Iannis Xenakis" was published in '96 by Faber
(interviewer is Balint Andras Varga). It contains two long interviews, one
from the 70s, one from the 80s if I recall right. Close to 200 pages with
a list of compositions and brief discography.
I also highly recommend the 2-CD Chamber works by the Arditti Quartet.
- -
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:45:37 -0500
From: Evan Jones <baka@flash.net>
Subject: Tom Waits on Epitaph
Indie punk label my ass. Hopefully Brain Mantia will play drums for him
again. That guy swings. Did anybody hear him on the Godflesh release Songs
Of Love And Hate?
Ev.
------------------------
"Ya know, I've watched a lot of horror flicks in my day, and all I have to
say is DON'T MESS AROUND WITH BOOKS IN LATIN WITH PENTAGRAMS ON THEM!!!" -
Ev.
http://www.flash.net/~baka/
- -
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:00:54 -0600
From: "M. Forrest Lewis" <louie@gwtc.net>
Subject: painkiller cover
i don't know where the picture of the hanging man is from but if you look
close the people seem to be wearing fairly modern clothes, one man seems to
be holding a bag or something. it almost looks as if this were taken at one
of those renaissance festivals. sounds corny but that's just my take, any
other suggestions?
- -louie
- -
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:01:18 -0500
From: Dan Hewins <hewins@synsolutions.com>
Subject: Re: JMT Distribution
Another question:
What's the easiest way to find out which say, Paul Motian, discs are on JMT?
I looked at the All Music Guide page and saw that the disc "Trioism" is
listed as being on Polygram. Does this mean that it's in print still... I
thought it was on JMT. So what do y'all think?
Thanks,
Dan
- --------------------------------------
Dan Hewins
hewins@synsolutions.com
http://people.synsolutions.com/hewins/
"No quote"
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:06:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Waxman <cj649@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Subject: "New Thing" Impulse & Verve & Myra
Just heard that Verve Records has reissued its Alan Shorter
session from 1968, with Gato Barbieri, Charlie Haden, Reggie Johnson,
Muhammed and Rashied Ali. Anyone know if that label has other avant-garde
stuff in the reissue hopper?
Also Impulse's September "new thing" series is supposed to
include a Marion Brown sassion and Albert Ayler in Greenwich Village.
Again, anyone have more details?
And, on a completely different subject, does anyone know when
Myra Melford plans to make a new record?
The Question man
Ken Waxman
cj649@torfree.net
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 98 10:46:02 -0500
From: brian_olewnick@smtplink.mssm.edu
Subject: Min Xiao-Fen at Tonic
Does anyone know whether Min Xiao-Fen is performing solo or with
others at Tonic tomorrow evening? I'm taking the calculated risk of
bringing my wife to the event and need to know if I should
psychologically prepare her for any extreme sonic assaults!
Thanks,
Brian Olewnick
- -
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:17:56 -0400
From: David Keffer <keffer@shell.planetc.com>
Subject: Masada disks cheap
Hey Folks on the Zorn-list,
For those of you with incomplete Masada cd sets,
I noticed today that www.amazon.com is selling
Masada 1-7, & 9 for $12.99 each.
This is the cheapest I have seen them and
I thought it might be worth posting.
DK
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:02:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Cappy D'Angelo" <cappyd@UVic.CA>
Subject: Masada Disks
Thanks for the heads up. What's the most recent word on the box sets?
Cappy D'Angelo
Student at Law - Intellectual Property
Dabbler in Recording - Sonic Solutions Digital Editing and Mastering
Twanger of Guitar & Blower of Eb Horns of Alto & Bari Persuasion
Victoria, B.C., CANADA
- -
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:27:45 -0500
From: Dan Hewins <hewins@synsolutions.com>
Subject: Re: Masada Disks
>Thanks for the heads up. What's the most recent word on the box sets?
I keep checking the Tzadik site and I can't get anything more than "Later
this year..." I am trying my best to hold out on buying the Masada discs I
don't have. Amazon's making it difficult. I suppose we may have to wait
still for DIW to release Masada 10... what do you think?
Thanks again, David, for the notice. I think those things are good to hear
on the list.
(side note: Amazon's crazy. Have you heard that they're not expected to
make money until after the year 2000? I don't know how they get people to
invest in things like that. It seems to me that companies like that
shouldn't exist. It's just crazy...)
Dan
- --------------------------------------
Dan Hewins
hewins@synsolutions.com
http://people.synsolutions.com/hewins/
"No quote"
- -
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:38:06 -0500
From: Dan Hewins <hewins@synsolutions.com>
Subject: Avant Discs (recs req)
My friend was looking into two avant discs. Anyone have recommendations?
Cyro Baptista - Villa Lobos
Bobby Previte - slay the suitors
Thanks,
Dan
(you can reply privately)
- --------------------------------------
Dan Hewins
hewins@synsolutions.com
http://people.synsolutions.com/hewins/
"No quote"
- -
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 98 16:47:41 -0500
From: brian_olewnick@smtplink.mssm.edu
Subject: Re: Avant Discs (recs req)
>My friend was looking into two avant discs. Anyone have recommendations?
>Cyro Baptista - Villa Lobos
A fine disc. As you might expect, quite melodic and rhythmic; also
quite varied. Especially nice contributions from Ribot and the
accordionist with the unusual name I can't recall right now. BTW, I
haven't seen this mentioned elsewhere, but two of the themes herein
struck me as very similar to a couple of themes from the first side of
Guy Klucevsek's 'Scenes From A Mirage'. I sort of doubt that Guy
cribbed directly from Villa Lobos, but thought that both might have
derived their melodies from the same Brazilian folk source. Anyone
know?
>Bobby Previte - slay the suitors
Also very enjoyable--one of Prevites re-investigations of early
fusion. It took me a while to get into when I first heard it, but has
grown on me since. Then again, I've yet to hear anything from Previte
that wasn't well worth listening to on several levels.
Get 'em both.
Brian Olewnick
- -
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:12:48 PDT
From: "Scott Handley" <c123018@hotmail.com>
Subject: semiotext(e)
What is Semiotext(e), and where can information on it be found?
Thanks in advance,
- -scott
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
- -
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:38:12 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Avant Discs (recs req)
On Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:38:06 -0500 Dan Hewins wrote:
>
> My friend was looking into two avant discs. Anyone have recommendations?
>
> Cyro Baptista - Villa Lobos
>
> Bobby Previte - slay the suitors
If you don't have many Previte, I would skip that one.
Not that it is a bad record, but it pales a little bit compared to his
Enja/Gramavision releases.
But if you have everything else by him, get it (but if it were the case
you would not ask :-).
Patrice.
- -
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:43:53 -0700
From: "Benito Vergara" <sunny70@sirius.com>
Subject: RE: Masada Disks
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Dan Hewins
> Sent: Friday, July 24, 1998 1:28 PM
>I am trying my best to hold out on buying the
> Masada discs I
> don't have. Amazon's making it difficult. I suppose we may have to wait
> still for DIW to release Masada 10... what do you think?
Just a quick question: Is there a site on the web (or can anyone e-mail me)
that says which Masada albums the tracks off Bar Kokhba come from? "Rokhev"
and "Yechida," for instance, I really like, and I'd like to hear the Masada
arrangements, but I don't know where they come from. (Is there a DIW site?)
I suppose I could just go to a store, but...
Thanks in advance,
Ben
p.s. Thanks to all who replied concerning the "Buried Secrets" photo...
np: coil, "vanishing point"
http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/
ICQ# 12832406
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:56:53 -0700
From: "Benito Vergara" <sunny70@sirius.com>
Subject: San Francisco Jazz Festival
Just saw it today -- for you SF Bay Area Zornheads:
Sunday, November 8, 8:00pm
Riffs on Tradition II: Radical Jewish Culture
Temple Emanu-El, Lake & Arguello
$20 (GA); $28 Gold Circle (reserved)
John Zorn's Masada
John Schott's In These Great Times
Complete schedule at
http://www.citysearch7.com/E/V/SFOCA/0010/13/70/3.9.html
Later,
Ben
http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/
ICQ# 12832406
- -
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:41:11 EDT
From: <TagYrIt@aol.com>
Subject: Chicago jazz fest
Does anyone know if there's an online site for the line-up of the Chicago Jazz
Fest this year?
Thanks.
Dale.
- -
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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 02:08:22 -0400
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: "New Thing" Impulse & Verve & Myra
Ken Waxman wrote:
> Just heard that Verve Records has reissued its Alan Shorter
> session from 1968, with Gato Barbieri, Charlie Haden, Reggie Johnson,
> Muhammed and Rashied Ali. Anyone know if that label has other avant-garde
> stuff in the reissue hopper?
This is the first I've heard about the disc you mention, so I have no further
knowledge... thanks for the tip, though...
> Also Impulse's September "new thing" series is supposed to
> include a Marion Brown sassion and Albert Ayler in Greenwich Village.
> Again, anyone have more details?
Personally speaking, the impending reissue of the three Cecil Taylor tracks
released under Gil Evans's name on "Into the Hot" is the primo release,
especially wed to an entire album by Roswell Rudd. But yes, Marion Brown's
"Three for Shepp" and Albert Ayler complete Village sessions (as heard on
"Albert Ayler in Greenwich Village" and the 2 LP set released later by ABC)
are also manna from heaven, and there's also a reissue of Alice Coltrane's "A
Monastic Trio" with material from the John Coltrane album "Cosmic Music" and
unreleased solo piano stuff in the next batch. I thought I'd saved the list
but can't find it right now... but you could check www.dejanews.com to get
the posting in question...
> And, on a completely different subject, does anyone know when
> Myra Melford plans to make a new record?
It's already been recorded IIRC, with exactly the same quintet that made "The
Same River, Twice" for Gramavision. That label unfortunately seems to be
defunct yet again, so the new Myra disc is due out on Arabesque Jazz early
next year, and from what I heard at the Texaco Fest this summer it's well
worth getting excited over already...
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
- -
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 17:33:47 +1000
From: "Julian" <jcurwin@hartingdale.com.au>
Subject: Re: Masada Disks
> Just a quick question: Is there a site on the web (or can anyone e-mail
me)
> that says which Masada albums the tracks off Bar Kokhba come from?
"Rokhev"
> and "Yechida," for instance, I really like, and I'd like to hear the
Masada
> arrangements, but I don't know where they come from. (Is there a DIW
site?)
> I suppose I could just go to a store, but...
Not all the BK arrangements are off albums. But go to the Zorn discography
and you can do a text search for each one you're curious about.
- -
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 00:36:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tony Reif <treif@songlines.com>
Subject: Re: Pachora
Tom said,
>(haven't heard Houle yet though...might have to take that back when I
>finally get around to picking up the Carter record).
Or the Houle-Delbecq, which is more on the avant side, though pretty gentle
on the whole...
And speaking of clarinetists and Pachora, that band also played the
Vancouver festival and I was impressed and often moved by Chris's clarinet
playing. The way he gets inside those Balkan and Turkish scales (which in
the wrong hands can sound as generic as any modal vamping or running the
changes), carefully selects notes and bends and slides through them to get
at their microtonal potential for expressivity, really gets to me. Chris
often plays with eyes closed, presumably to surround himself with the music
aurally and as it were tactilely,without the distractingly specific
one-point focus of vision. He's an "inside" player in the best sense.
Tony
PS I apparently lost an incoming Zorn-l post a couple of days ago with the
subject Re: Goldberg et al. If someone could forward it to me...
Tony Reif (Songlines Recordings)
- -
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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 10:57:41 EDT
From: <JonAbbey2@aol.com>
Subject: Re: "New Thing" Impulse
In a message dated 7/25/98 2:10:31 AM, ssmith36@sprynet.com wrote:
I thought I'd saved the list but can't find it right now.
here you go...
<<"The New Thing Series" for release on 10/6:
Pharoah Sanders - Summum Bukmun Umyun
Marion Brown - Three for Shepp
Dewey Redman - The Ear of the Behearer (includes three tracks from
"Coincide")
Archie Shepp - The Way Ahead (includes the two surviving tracks from
"Kwanza")
Cecil Taylor/Roswell Rudd - Mixed (includes the 3 tracks from Gil
Evans' "Into the Hot" and the 4 from Rudd's "Everywhere")
Alice Coltrane - A Monastic Trio (includes "Lord, Help Me To Be" and
"The Sun" originally released on Cosmic Music and two previously unissued
solo piano performances from the sessions that produced the JC album
Expression)
Sam Rivers - Trio Live (as on "The Live Trio Sessions," this includes
the full performances from edited versions that appeared on albums
"Impulse Artists on Tour," "The Drums," "Hues," and "No Energy Crisis")
Albert Ayler - The Complete Impulse Live Greenwich Village Sessions
(Two disc set includes track from "The New Wave in Jazz," all of "In Greenwich
Village," all of "The Greenwich Village Concerts," and one previously
unreleased track)>>
Jon
- -
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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 11:06:52 -0400
From: Jeff Schwartz <jeffs@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
Subject: Re: "New Thing" Impulse & Verve & Myra
I've heard the Verve Alan Shorter LP (tasteless-titled
"Orgasm," cover photo of Mr. Shorter shirtless with his
horn-very Herbie Mann). Surprisingly for an avant-jazz LP
called "Orgasm," it's not a total energy blowout but
reminds me of some of the more modal/Ornetty ESPs. I am
unaware of other buried Verve goodies, but I'm not really
a scholar of the Verve label.
Will there be unreleased stuff on the Ayler Village CDs?
New liner notes? Will I get a shout out? Money?
Is the Roswell Rudd LP y'all are discussing "Everywhere"?
I suppose the reissue of the Into the Hot Cecil tracks
means there isn't any more early 60s CT in the vaults.
Damn. But didn't Impulse just do a straight reissue of
Into the Hot last year? Poor Johnny Carisi!
- --
Jeff Schwartz
jeffs@bgnet.bgsu.edu
http://www.bgsu.edu/~jeffs/main.html
- -
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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 18:19:41 +0200
From: Fritz Feger <ffeger@gwdg.de>
Subject: Query for Yugoslavian music
Hi everybody,
I am looking for music from the balcan, especially from the former
Yugoslavia, for example folk songs, sacral music, these choirs - any
recommendations?
I'm also interested in adaptions of it, may it be by classical composers or
pop or jazz artists. I would of course be overly pleased if it turned out
that some downtown weirdo already had his claws on balcan music.
Fritz.
- -
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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 12:04:57 -0700
From: xander@sirius.com
Subject: Re: Query for Yugoslavian music
>I am looking for music from the balcan, especially from the former
>Yugoslavia, for example folk songs, sacral music, these choirs - any
>recommendations?
Touch did a good cassette compilation around '87 or so which got me started
- - for all I know it's been reissued by now. The cassette was in a nice
oversized box, green and purple artwork. The records I have all LPs I
picked up years ago when visiting Macedonia. Pece Atanasovski generally
pleases.
A friend of mine did his doctorate on the sociology of Yugopop, just set up
his personal pages, and it includes quite a few Balkan music links. Go to:
http://www.clarku.edu/~egordy/mainpage.html
>I'm also interested in adaptions of it, may it be by classical composers or
>pop or jazz artists. I would of course be overly pleased if it turned out
>that some downtown weirdo already had his claws on balcan music.
I'd recommend Matt Dariau's Paradox Trio - quite a bit of Balkan influence
running through it, and I quite like the one CD I have.
Alexander
Radio Khartoum. http://www.algonet.se/~elegans/radiok/
- -
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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 18:40:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Waxman <cj649@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Subject: Re: Query for Yugoslavian music
For other adaptions also check Dave Douglas' Tiny Bell Trio on Songlines.
Ken Waxman
cj649@torfree.net
- -
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 02:55:52 -0400
From: parry@macconnect.com
Subject: Tom Waits/Johnny Dowd
Another Zorn/Waits link: Kenny Wollesen has played w/ both. As I recall, he
was on Waits' Black Rider.
My personal Waits favorite is "Frank's Wild Years." Amazing songs. Re
Waits-esque artists, New Orleans trio Royal Fingerbowl has a strong Waits
influence. Their debut on TVT, Happy Birthday Sabo, is a sort of twisted
punk-jazz-folk-blues deal w/ some terrific dark, funny songs. (There's a
particularly tender love song crooned by a kidnapper who promises "I'll
never leave you alone./You might try to use the phone.") Singer-guitarist's
voice is somewhere between Waits, Dr. John and Randy Newman.
Johnny Dowd is pretty much one of a kind, although if they make a movie,
Robert Duvall would be good to play him. I'd say closer to Nick Cave and
Townes Van Zandt than Johnny Cash -- the music on the album is really stark
rural blues/country, and the songs are bleak but hysterically funny (if you
have a sick sense of humor, and I think anyone who works for a corporation
can appreciate Dowd's hilariously dire admonition: "Be content with your
life. It may not get any better."). I saw him at South By Southwest and
live, his music was even stranger. His group had strong avant-jazz leanings
but kept that desolate feel despite all the interesting squiggles and some
downright jaunty tempos. So brilliant I stuck around for the whole show
even though it was outdoors on a miserably cold night.
Parry Gettelman
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