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Zorn List Digest         Monday, May 18 1998         Volume 02 : Number 372



In this issue:
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       Re: Why, why?
       Re: Why Zorn?
       gerry hemingway
       Dutch Music recommendations sought
       ZORN in Australia?
       Re: Dutch Music recommendations sought
       looking for...
       Re: Dutch Music recommendations sought
       New Zornian Releases for May and June [long]
       zorn-list ADMIN notice
       "JUST SO HAPPENS" - Gary PEACOCK

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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 23:03:48 +0000
From: Dan Kuehn <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Why, why?

I sent a copy of the mail I posted here concerning trouble with the knitfact
webcam to steve gratzer who forwarded it to... well, here:

Hi Dan,

Steve forwarded your email to me.
>What gives? Politics?  Technical problems?  Legal beef?  Artist beef?
Yes. They all give. Essentially we're trying to work out a whole host of
unexpected problems at the same time. I hope to have this all dealt with in
2 weeks.

Thanks,

Dave

>Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 15:09:25 +0000
>From: Dan Kuehn <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: Why, why?
>X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
>
>Hey, Steve,
>
>Can you tell me what's with the livecam at the Knitting Factory - ever since
>John Zorn had it turned off, it REALLY got turned off.  I check almost every
>day and I've gotten various realaudio messages (the site doesn't exist, is not
>available, etc.) or an NBC network feed or a blue screen or a black screen or
>once very, breifly, picture but no sound.
>
>What gives? Politics?  Technical problems?  Legal beef?  Artist beef?
>
>The livecam is certainly revolutionary, giving us free-thinking folks in the
>outback a window into a world of new musiks formerly available only to those
>able to bear life in the City, but isn't that a good thing?
>
>I just hope it's not gone forever.  I expected that bastard Zorn would turn it
>off for his precious improv nite tonite, but what about the clusone trio last
>night?  Never heard'em, probably never will...
>
>I for one have bought at least a dozen albums based on what i've caught on
>that miserable little screen -
>
>At this point I don't even know what's wrong:
>Kid has ice cream cone, kid loses ice cream cone, kid feels bad.
>
>As Nancy Kerrigan said so well, "Why, why?"
>
>Dan

Dave Brenner
CTO, KnitMedia
74 Leonard Street
New York, NY 10013
http://www.knittingfactory.com
http://www.tzadik.com
http://www.jewmu.com

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Dan Kuehn
resident manager
Kailua Maui Gardens
SR1, Box 9
Haiku
Maui
Hawaii 96708
http://www.maui.net/~kmg/

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Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 10:49:10 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Jamie F Graves)
Subject: Re: Why Zorn?

>For example, you might think that works of music with many interesting
>qualities are necessarily good.  (I'm pretty sure I think something like
>this.)  If your wife buys into this view, and you convince her that
>Plunderphonics has many interesting qualities, she'd have to admit that
>she's wrong.  (But I don't recommend having that sort of discussion
>too often with spouses 8^).)

Hmm, I think you've hit the nail on the head here. It seems to me that
admitting something is interesting in music does not necessarily mean
someone will like it. From what I've read on this list, people here
listen to Zorn and other experimental artists because they're
interesting. Yanni devotees won't disagree with us on that, but they'll
still listen to Yanni over Zorn because it goes down easier, and its a
pleasure for them to listen to (same with easy listening). I have a few
friends whose ideal music fits a very rigid definition, and while I've
gotten a few to admit that Masada and Naked City are "interesting", they
have never asked to borrow the CD's again. Just because someone realizes
something is original doesn't mean they'll start listening to it on a
regular basis, that is usually reserved for their four or five favorite
CD's that they've been listening to forever. Nothing wrong with that,
just a view of listening to music as a pure pleasure experience rather
than an intellectual/pleasure one. At least that's why I listen to Zorn.

Jamie

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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 11:26:42 -0400
From: Alan E Kayser <[e-mail]>
Subject: gerry hemingway

The Gerry Hemingway Quartet, featuring Gerry, Ellery Eskelin, Mark
Dresser, and Herb Robertson, will be performing in Philadelphia on
Friday, May 22.  This will take place at the Unitarian Church on
Chestnut St between 21st and 22nd at 7:30 PM.  For more details

http://www.erols.com/aek1







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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 11:40:19 -0400
From: Brian Olewnick <[e-mail]>
Subject: Dutch Music recommendations sought

Just finished Kevin Whitehead's book, 'New Dutch Swing'. If you're at
all interested in Dutch (and other European) new music developments over
the last 40 years it's well worth checking out--very comprehensive with,
if anything, an overabundance of detail and many interesting oral
histories (I ordered it from Amazon.com). Refreshingly, Whitehead is
pretty critical of a lot of the people he writes about; in fact, finding
musicians or records he's unabashedly enthusiastic about is difficult.

In any case, though I've heard much of the music of some of the
(relatively) major figures he writes of (Breuker, Mengelberg, Bennink)
and bits and pieces of others, Whitehead does provoke a lot of interest
in other, less documented musicians. So, if anyone out there can
recommend recordings by any of the following folk or groups, I'd be much
obliged: Maarten Altena (I've heard some of the Hat Art stuff from the
late 80's), Available Jelly, Ab Baars, Peter van Bergen, Michael Braam,
Guus Janssen, Paul Termos and Wolter Wierbos.

Thanks,

Brian Olewnick

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Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 01:48:25 +1000
From: [e-mail] (Mark Stott)
Subject: ZORN in Australia?

Is there any substance to the rumour of Zorn coming to do shows in OZ?

The embellished version includes PRAXIS as support, playing at The Sydney
Opera House (?!).

Any news at all please reply, cheers!

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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 13:43:43 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Caleb Deupree)
Subject: Re: Dutch Music recommendations sought

At 11:40 AM 5/17/98 -0400, Brian Olewnick wrote:

>[...] Peter van Bergen [...]

I have a very strange album by Loos, a quintet headed by van Bergen and
also featuring Huib Emmer and Patricio Wang on electric guitar, Gerard
Bouwhuis on piano, and Paul Koek on percussion, for which van Bergen wrote
most of the music (_Fundamental_ on GeestGronden 10, probably still
available from Cadence).  Extremely abstract and pointillistic, an exercise
in chords, silence, and improvisation.  The CD comes with extensive and
very technical liner notes.  I like van Bergen's playing a lot, he gets a
lot of strange growls and interesting noises from the sax and clarinets,
but the pointillism is unique.

I've heard van Bergen in other contexts, where he makes a distinctive
contribution.  He's a member of Altena's octet on at least a couple of the
Hat disks, and I think he's on the FMP King Ubu orchestra cd as well.



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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 15:07:30 -0400
From: Tom Pratt <[e-mail]>
Subject: looking for...

Hey! I'm trying to locate copies of two CD's that I'm having an
absolutely impossible time finding. They are 'Impropositions' by Mats
Gustafsson (1996 - Phono Suecia, PSCD 99) and 'Live At Fasching' by Gush
(1996 - Dragon, DRCD 313). North Country doesn't have them and neither
does Allegro (whom I believe carries both these labels?). They aren't at
Forced Exposure or Wayside either.

If anybody knows how I can find these titles (at a decent price) or if
you see either in stock at your local stores and would be willing to
pick them up for me (obviously I'd give you the money!), please let me
know. Thanks!

                -Tom Pratt

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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 18:11:11 -0400
From: Steve Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Dutch Music recommendations sought

Brian Olewnick wrote:

> ...Wolter Wierbos.

Wolter is heard to great effect on the Gerry Hemingway discs "Special
Detail," "Down to the Wire," "Demon Chaser," and "The Marmalade King," all
on hat Art, as well as "Slamadam" and "Perfect World" on Random Acoustics.
These might actually *all* be out of print officially speaking, but they
still turn up here and there, and Gerry's got "Maramalade King" and the two
Random Acoustics for sale on his website, which is at
http://www.interactive.net/~gerryhem/

I like the Random Acoustics best, "Perfect World" most of all, but they're
all pretty fine.  Thanks for the book review.

Steve Smith
[e-mail]


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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 03:43:54 -0400
From: Steve Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: New Zornian Releases for May and June [long]

Hey kids:

While I'm still reeling over that incredible list of gigs coming up at
Tonic (talk about back to the good old days at 47 E. Houston!
Bailey/Ibarra... yum!), I paid a visit to my *other* "old office" today,
that being Koch.  Here's the for-real skinny on Avant, Tzadik and other
Zorn-related releases coming on May 19 and June 16.  Get yer wallets
ready, it's a gob and a half:  All copy that follows is transcribed from
Koch release books except where clearly noted.

MAY 19, 1998

TZADIK

Selfhaters: The Abysmal Richness of the Infinite Proximity of the Same
TZA CD 7123
Radical Jewish Culture
Anthony Coleman, Michael Attias, Fred Lonberg-Holm, Jim Pugliese, Doug
Wieselman

Jazz, classical, Klezmer and improvisational traditions blend and crash
in Selfhaters, Anthony Coleman's most personal project.  A disturbing
and all-too-close peek into the very Jewish world of alienation and
self-revulsion.  Two long masterful compositions separated by a strange
solo piece for voice and piano, The Abysmal Richness of the Infinite
Proximity of the Same is one of Anthony's greatest creations.  A CD that
will vex you to the crack of doom.

Tetsu Inoue: Psycho-Acoustic
TZA CD 7213
New Japan

Perhaps the most interesting electronic music since the classic period
of Stockhausen and Xenakis, Tetsu Inoue is a composer and sound artist
who has worked in a variety of musics - ambient, sound installation,
dance music, techno and is a frequent collaborator of Bill Laswell and
Haruomi Hosono.  This CD features some of the most intricate and
fascinating computer generated compositions you've ever heard.
Literally thousands of hours went into the ceration of these miniature
masterpieces charting a world of sound as yet unexplored.  Also included
is a powerful duet with brilliant electronic percussionist Ikue Mori.

Merzbow: 1930
TZA CD 7214
New Japan

The Japanese Noise scene has received much attention in the past several
years, and countless bands have flooded the market with CDs filled with
horrible sounds and indiscriminate noise.  "Merzbow" is the one and only
original Japanese noise band, begun by Masami Akita over 20 years ago
and he is still the best of them all.  This special release for the
Tzadik label is one of his most important compositional creations - an
adventurous travelogue into his world of analog and digital noises,
taking unexpected twists and turns that will surprise even hardcore
Merzbow fans.  Merzbow is the undisputed king of the Japanese noise
scene and 1930 is one of his very finest releases.

DIW

Rereleases of Dougie Bowne's "One Way Elevator" and Masada 8.

AVANT

Rereleases of G-d Is My Co-Pilot's "Mir Shlufn Nisht," Bobby Previte's
"Slay the Suitors," Blind Idiot God's "Cyclotron" and James Plotkin's
"The Joy of Disease."

OTHER RELEASES OF INTEREST

Joe Morris/Ken Vandermark/Hans Poppel: Like Rays (Knitting Factory)
Microscopic Septet: Take the Z Train (Koch Jazz, reissue)
Howard Skempton: Surface Tension (Mode)


JUNE 16, 1998

DIW

Dave Douglas: Moving Portrait
DIW CD 934
Dave Douglas, Bill Carrothers (piano), James Genus (bass), Billy Hart
(drums)

Following his homages to Booker Little and Wayne Shorter, Moving
Portrait is Dave's tribute to an important and brilliant influence, Joni
Mitchell.  This beautiful quartet plays three of Joni's tunes - "Roses
Blue" (from Clouds), "My Old Man" (from Blue) and "The Same Situation"
(from Court and Spark), along with Douglas originals dedicated to Joni
and the lasting influence of his parents.  This is a truly thoughtful
and moving recording. [Steve's note: I'm listening to this as I type and
agree completely with the Koch copy writer - it's Dave's most
conventional record to date but it's also a simply gorgeous jazz record,
which in a more just world would be moving 6000 units a week just like
the new Wynton Marsalis disc...]

AVANT

Derek Bailey & Min Xiao-Fen: Viper
AVA CD 050

Derek Bailey, one of the founding fathers of the European improvising
scene and Min Xiao-Fen, one of China's greatest pipa (Chinese lute)
virtuosos met for the first time in front of these sensitive microphones
to record this document of free improvisation at its best and most
adventurous.  Over the past 35 years, Bailey has been one of the most
highly influential innovators in music, with dozens of albums
demonstrating his highly influential improvisational style and guitar
technique.  The young Min Xiao-Fen has recorded two stunningly beautiful
albums of traditional and modern works for pipa and was featured on John
Zorn's Filmworks 8.  Two of the world's most exciting string players
cross boundaries head-to-head in creating a musical meeting of East and
West unlike anything you've ever heard before.

David Weinstein: Perfume
AVA CD 020

David Weinstein is a composer who uses electronic and recording
technology to fashion improbable orchestral and musical juxtapositions.
Utilizing rigorous compositional techniques and hackneyed Hollywood
tricks as well as the experimental process, Weinstein composes with an
appreciation of the divine in the pedestrian.  As a composer /
keyboardist Weinstein has recorded and performed in collaboration with
the singer / composer Shelley Hirsch, in Elliott Sharp's Carbon, with
John Zorn, and a variety of other composer / musicians from Arto Lindsay
to Zeena Parkins.  Five years in the making, Weinstein's first solo CD
Perfume charts a dyslexic and exotic path through microtonal scales
towards the world of "just intonation."

Rerelease of John Oswald's "Plexure"

TZADIK

Fred Frith: Pacifica (1993-95)
TZA CD 7034
Composers Series

Pacifica is a major new composition by the world-famous guitarist,
improviser and composer Fred Frith.  Over an hour in length and composed
for a large ensemble of winds, strings and percussion, Pacifica sets the
poetry of Pablo Neruda into a seductive and hypnotizing sound world that
slowly metamorphoses into something altogether different.  Lyrical
written passages, inspired improvisations, sensual vocals and
provocative sound effects all come together into a fascinating whole -
one of Fred Frith's most brilliant orchestral creations.

Norman Yamada: Being and Time
TZA CD 7035
Composers Series

Norman Yamada is a brilliant young composer who has worked with Anthony
Coleman, Marc Ribot, the Crosstown Ensemble, the Agon Orchestra and was
previously heard on the Avant CD by Rough Assemblage.  Being and Time,
the first CD dedicated to his compositions for small ensembles, is an
atavistic exploration of rock gestures, ambient noise and today's
post-modern malaise.  A unique compositional statement from a new
generation of genre-busting musical thinkers.

Ruins: Symphonica
TZA CD 7215
New Japan
Yoshida Tatsuya, Sasaki Hisashi, Oguchi Kenichi, Emi Eleonora, Kubota
Aki

For more than a decade, the Ruins have been one of the most consistently
exciting groups out of the Japanese underground.  Known worldwide for
their complex multi-layered compositions and dynamic live performances,
the Ruins' groundbreaking music starts and stops on a dime, with the
precision of a watch and the power of a sledgehammer.  Symphonica is a
new direction for this innovative band, which until now has worked
solely as a duo.  Augmenting their core unit of drums and bass with two
female vocalists and a keyboard player of astonishing virtuosity, these
brilliant orchestral arrangements of new compositions and Ruins classics
display aspects of their music that have been waiting to emerge for
years.

Phillip Johnston: Music for Films
TZA CD 7510
Film Music

Phillip Johnston has been charming and perplexing audiences for over
twenty years with his lyrical music and ascetic wit.  The mastermind
behind such bands as the Microscopic Septet and the Transparent Quartet,
Phillip has spent much of the past five years composing music for
films.  From silent classics by George M'lies and Tod Browning's The
Unknown, to award-winning contmeporary features like Music of Chance,
Phillip's film music shows him to be a brilliant tunesmith and creative
arranger with a sophisticated sense of the dramatic.  Music for Films
compiles Phillip's finest soundtrack work on one disc.  A surprising and
marvelous compendium of the best of one of jazz's quirkiest and most
delightful composers.

OTHER LABELS

Zorn, Previte, Sharp, Horvitz: Downtown Lullaby (Depth of Field)
The Lounge Lizards: Queen of All Ears (Strange and Beautiful)
John Lurie: Fishing with John - Soundtrack Music (Strange and Beautiful)

Briggan Krauss w/ Wayne Horvitz and Kenny Wollesen: 300 (Knitting
Factory)




Gotta go soak my fingers... hope you found this of interest.  Me, I
gotta find a pile of stuff to sell to raise money towards the vast
amount of music I'll have to buy this summer...

Steve Smith
[e-mail]





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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 23:51:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: "m. rizzi" <[e-mail]>
Subject: zorn-list ADMIN notice

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Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 23:49:13 +0200
From: "Artur Nowak" <[e-mail]>
Subject: "JUST SO HAPPENS" - Gary PEACOCK

Hi Philozorners!

I'm looking for info about this record:
- - "JUST SO HAPPENS" - Gary PEACOCK
__ POSTCARDS INC. (1005)  19__.

Can anybody please tell what kind of music it is? I know Frisell plays some
guitar on this record, but is it any good?

I would appreciate also track listing, lineup, release date and other
details.

Thaks

Artur
       ____________________________________________________________________
       Artur Nowak
       www.silesia.top.pl/~arno/emd/pl40/artists/f/frisell_bill/default.htm




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