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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #258
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Zorn List Digest Thursday, March 12 1998 Volume 02 : Number 258
In this issue:
-
cool shit
Re: Uz Jsme Doma
Re: cool shit
KF 2
Muworks, Improvised Music 1981
Re: EVIL SKA?!?
WUNH Durham 91.3fm Jazz/Modern reports March 9, 1998
Re: cool shit
Bill Frisell discography (message from POLAND)
Goode/Cd sale
Half Japanese
masada
Ornette
unknown cd sale
EVIL SKA, and movie trivia
Big Gundown
Re: Big Gundown
New Masada output
Re[2]: Big Gundown
Re: Big Gundown
More Great Jewish Music
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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:53:29 EST
From: FUNKADELlC <FUNKADELlC@aol.com>
Subject: cool shit
hey.. im just droppin a tip... but the first album by the Blue Meanies is full
of EVIL SKA and klezmer... and their new album is full of EVIL SKA and blast
beats <ie Nekkid Citee/ Painkiller>.... cool shite..
- -cory sklar
- -
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Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 09:14:17 -0500
From: Perfect Sound Forever <perfect-sound@furious.com>
Subject: Re: Uz Jsme Doma
> On Mon, 9 Mar 1998 01:37:34 -0500 (EST), ia zha nah er vesen <jwnarves@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> sed:
>
> Thanks to all (patrice) who recomended 'too close to the pole'...what a
> brilliant album. It reminds me, in spots, of this other band, a 'czech
> puck opera jazz' band called Uz Jsme Doma. Has anyone else heard them?
>
> I'd very much recomend them to all out there...they're very much a rock
> band, but they're very tight, and their sound tends towards the
> sort of frantic virtuosity which the title track of 'too close to the
> pole' has going. Lineup: drums, keys, guitars, bass, sax, basoon, other
> wind instruments, and they all sing, as well. Neat-o.
>
These guys are great. HOLLYWOOD is one of my favorite CD's from the last couple of years. It's loud, funny, weird and
really compelling. They usually get lumped in Zappa and the Residents but in the end, they don't sound a lot like either.
Check out this site for more info on them (yes, I admit there's a link to PSF there):
http://www.zverina.com/alternatune/uzjsmedoma.html
Jason
- --
Perfect Sound Forever
perfect-sound@furious.com
http://www.furious.com/perfect
- -
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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:38:28 -0500 (EST)
From: ia zha nah er vesen <jwnarves@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: cool shit
> of EVIL SKA and klezmer... and their new album is full of EVIL SKA and blast
^^^^^^^^
vas ist das 'EVIL SKA'?
- -jascha
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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:28:38 -0500
From: Zeke's <zeke@zeke.com>
Subject: KF 2
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Howdy!
For those of you who might be making travel plans, the Knit is opening a =
second location in Lake Charles, LA. Apparently it is supposed to open =
in August.
See y'all there
Chris
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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:50:17 -0500 (EST)
From: Richard E Ladew <rladew@hopper.unh.edu>
Subject: Muworks, Improvised Music 1981
Improvised Music 1981
I have a copy of this cd at the radio station I dj at. Its pretty
interesting. I also saw it once at Kim's on Bleeker street in NYC. Never
seen it since I should have bought it. e-mail me personally and Ill see
what I can do.
Rich
rladew@hopper.unh.edu
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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:39:10 -0700
From: dtapia@unoco.edu (Douglas Tapia)
Subject: Re: EVIL SKA?!?
>> of EVIL SKA and klezmer... and their new album is full of EVIL SKA and blast
> ^^^^^^^^
>
>vas ist das 'EVIL SKA'?
>
>-jascha
>
I don't know, but if it's in Bb and sounds like a bunch of Brits playing
reggae too fast, count me in!!!
SKA?!? Who's idea was this?
BUT if it's EVIL SKA, I might be interested, thus I second: What is EVIL
SKA? (Has to be cool if it's EVIL, eh?)
Doug
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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:33:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Richard E Ladew <rladew@hopper.unh.edu>
Subject: WUNH Durham 91.3fm Jazz/Modern reports March 9, 1998
Jazz/Modern/PCP House Of Coffee
WUNH Durham 91.3fm
Rich Ladew, Director
(603) 659-1732
Memorial Union Building (MUB)
University of New Hampshire
DURHAM NH 03824
Play is based on 2hrs Tuesday night (10pm-midnight (PCP House of Coffee),
3-4 hrs gen. programming, and approx. 1 hr general jazz play.
(Artist)
(Recording Title)
(Label)
1. Bill Ware
Vibes
Knitting factory Works
2.William Hooker
Great Sunset
Warm-O-Brisk
3. Prajna
Postmodernism
Eclectic
4. Buckethead
Colma
Cyberoctave
5.MASADA
TET
DIW
6.Painkiller
(4XCD BOX)
Tzadik
7.Brad Shepik and the Commuters
The Loan
Songlines
8. David Slusser
Daylight at the End of the Tunnel
Tzadik
9.John Lindberg Ensemble
Bounce
Black Saint
10. John Zorn
Angelus Novus
Tzadik
- -
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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:19:12 EST
From: FUNKADELlC <FUNKADELlC@aol.com>
Subject: Re: cool shit
In a message dated 98-03-09 09:38:42 EST, you write:
<< > of EVIL SKA and klezmer... and their new album is full of EVIL SKA and
blast
^^^^^^^^
vas ist das 'EVIL SKA'?
-jascha >>
C'MON!!!!.... this is just my way of saying "haunting sounding" ska music... i
dunno... i guess it means more diminished or minor chords on the upbeat or
sumthin... i.e. Speacials "ghost town" or early Oingo Boingo or sumpthin...
the rest of you know what i mean when i say "EVIL SKA" .... i dunno how to
explain it.. you guys help me out
- -cory sklar
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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:36:22 +0100
From: "Artur Nowak" <arno@silesia.top.pl>
Subject: Bill Frisell discography (message from POLAND)
Dear Philozorners!
If you like the music of Bill FRISELL, please visit my page dedicated to
Bill with his (of course not) complete DISCOGRAPHY. The location is:
http://www.silesia.top.pl/~arno/emd/pl40/artists/f/frisell_bill/default.htm
Although my Frisell pages are only in polish right now, you can still
browse the discography, because the discography itself is all in english.
One more requirement: this site is made in HTML 4.0, especially
Cascading Style Sheets, so you need MS Internet Explorer 4.0 in order to
access it (until now Netscape is far behind this standard; just try to see
it). Version for "old" browsers will be available... sometime.
Please feel free to flame me!
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Artur Nowak (arno@silesia.top.pl)
Licht und Liebe sich entzuenden - Wo sich Streng' und Milde finden.
Zorn und Finsternis entbrennen - Wo sich Streng' und Milde trennen.
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Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 20:56:33 -0500
From: Tom Pratt <tpratt@smtc.net>
Subject: Goode/Cd sale
Has anybody checked out the new Tzadik release by Daniel Goode?? How is
it? I had the choice between that and the Graves disc the other day and
opted for the Graves so I'm wondering what I'm missing out on!!
Also, I have some discs I'm looking to sell by Anthony Coleman, Elliott
Sharp, Anderson/Crispell/Drake and Anthony Braxton. Let me know if
you're interested and I'll give the full scoop.
-Tom Pratt
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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:48:13 +0100 (MEZ)
From: BJOERN <bjoern.eichstaedt@student.uni-tuebingen.de>
Subject: Half Japanese
well can anyone tell me which of these HALF JAPANESE records is the best????
Fire in the sky (1992)
Hot (1995)
Charmed life (1988)
Music to strip by (1987)
The band who would be king (1989)
answers please privately to me
BJOERN
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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:07:55 -0500
From: Alan E Kayser <aek1@erols.com>
Subject: masada
Did anyone out there get an FM recording of the Masada String Trio
and/or the Andy Statman program? I have lots to trade.
Alan
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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:04:19 -0700
From: dennis summers <denniss@ic.net>
Subject: Ornette
Entering into the Ornette conversation late, I'd have to second Wilkie's
rave of the Coleman/Izenson/Moffett trio, in fact this was my first exposure
to Ornette in The Great London Concert which remains one of my faves. I've
also noticed that no one has mentioned his recent two Sound Museum discs
which I think have been a great "return" to form. However, I suppose that
the original "poster" was asking where to start and we're offering far too
many choices. I don't think that anyone will defend New York is Now or Love
Call, which after years of searching, I got when rereleased on CD, and was
hugely disappointed.
Finally to Wilkie, I have Ornette at 12, if no one else has already
responded contact me direct.
***Quantum Dance Works***
****http://ic.net/~denniss****
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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:45:53 -0600
From: "Marc A. Foster" <mfoster@datasync.com>
Subject: unknown cd sale
Sorry to bother everyone with this, but I found a text file of a cd sale
that I got from someone on this list- problem is, I can't remember who
it's from or how old it is. I've included an excerpt from the file. If
you recognize it as yours, please get in touch with me. I lost the email
address that goes with the file.
Marc Foster
> OK, here's how the CD sale works:
>
> First come, first serve (I go by the order that the emails arrive in my
> inbox).
>
> I have to get the money before I ship - In the 10 years that I've been
> trading on the Internet, I've never been a "bad trader". If you send me the
> money, I will send you the merchandise. I honor all commitments. If you
> don't want to do it that way, sorry, but I'm not going to get burned.
>
> CDs with a * by them are reserved, but I haven't gotten the money or
> shipped them yet. If you want something that's reserved, let me know and
> I'll put you down for it . You might still be able to get it since
> sometimes people don't always follow through and send the money for what
> they've reserved.
>
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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:36:46 -0500 (EST)
From: ia zha nah er vesen <jwnarves@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: EVIL SKA, and movie trivia
> << > of EVIL SKA and klezmer... and their new album is full of EVIL SKA and
> blast
> ^^^^^^^^
>
> vas ist das 'EVIL SKA'?
> C'MON!!!!.... this is just my way of saying "haunting sounding" ska music... i
Aw, too bad...i thought this was a full-blown genre :) Perhaps, in time,
it will be. I, myself, am looking for EVIL REGGAE or (better still)
SINISTER DUB, although EVIL SKA has an alluring ring to it. Any
suggestions?
Question, re: EVIL REGGAE: the music which plays at the beginning of the
film 'stepping razor: red X' about Peter Tosh is (in memory, at least) the
most wonderfully psychedelic/slow-mo/sinister/lynchian reggae, and i don't
think it's Peter Tosh, even though it's a movie about him. Does anyone
know who dunnit?
thanks,
- -jascha
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:00:40
From: "Doug McKay" <mckay003@maroon.tc.umn.edu>
Subject: Big Gundown
I finally got this today. First impression: Disappointment. Did anyone else
have to grow into this album? I imagine I'll like it later, being that I
like Zorn. I guess I just expected something that it isn't. It seems anemic
to me. "Once Upon a Time in the West" is powerful in the movie. I don't
feel that here at all. I'm reminded of how he emasculated "The Good the Bad
and the Ugly" on the first Film Music album.
Has Zorn ever done original film music for a Western? Right now I can't
imagine he could pull it off for anyone who actually cared about the genre.
Doug McKay
Old West Society of Minnesota
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:49:35 +1100
From: "Julian" <jcurwin@hartingdale.com.au>
Subject: Re: Big Gundown
> I finally got this today. First impression: Disappointment. Did anyone
else
> have to grow into this album? I imagine I'll like it later, being that I
> like Zorn. I guess I just expected something that it isn't. It seems
anemic
> to me. "Once Upon a Time in the West" is powerful in the movie. I don't
> feel that here at all. I'm reminded of how he emasculated "The Good the
Bad
> and the Ugly" on the first Film Music album.
Yeah, I suppose expectations can ruin albums, even if they are genuinely
good, as I think Big Gundown is. My expectations of Spy Vs Spy weren't
exactly matched by what I got, but I've grown to like it (at least more
than I did when I first heard it). My tip for the Big Gundown - don't
listen as if it has to be something, it's really just Zorn playing around
with the music, and if you read the liner notes, Zorn says something like
how he didn't want to touch Morricone's music, it was too perfect already.
I guess he's just having fun with it. By the way, does anyone know where
"Milano Odea" comes from?
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:11:40 +0100
From: Martin Schmitz-Ohrndorf <ohrndorf@zippel.de>
Subject: New Masada output
I don't know, maybe this news is already known. There is a new Masada CD
announced for Mar 17, 1998. It will be named "Circle Maker" and features
Marc Ribot, Joey Baron, Cyro Babtista, Greg Cohen, Mark Feldman and Erik
Friedlander. It'll contain 29 tracks from the MASADA songbook and I am
sure it will be great. So this is really great news for all the fans
around. I'm not sure about the label, as the tzadik homepage doesn't
mention it. I hope it's not on DIW. Guess why!
Information (track listing etc.) can be found at
http://205.186.189.2/cg/AMG.exe?sql=A341776.
Martin Schmitz-Ohrndorf
ohrndorf@zippel.de
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:22:39 UT
From: peter_risser@cinfin.com
Subject: Re[2]: Big Gundown
Big Gundown was one of the first Zorn albums I ever heard (after Naked City) and
is still one of my all time favorites. Musically some of the stuff he does is
really brilliant and, as usual, he's got a super group of players. I look at
this like the Bacharach or Gainsbourg tributes, where there's a song idea and
it's mutated, while still paying homage to the original. If you want the true
Morricone (music and sound), you need to buy the soundtracks, cuz it doesn't
sound much like the originals at all, from the stuff I could compare.
Peter
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:48:07 +0100
From: Yves Dewulf <yves@inwpent1.rug.ac.be>
Subject: Re: Big Gundown
> I guess he's just having fun with it. By the way, does anyone know where
> "Milano Odea" comes from?
It must come from "Milano odia: la polizia non puo sparare",
an Italian Crime-Movie by Umberto Lenzi (1974).
US-titles: Almost Human
The Kidnap of Mary Lou
YVes
-
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:20:59 UT
From: peter_risser@cinfin.com
Subject: More Great Jewish Music
I was wondering who might be next in the Great Jewish Music cover album series.
Neil Diamond? Sammi Davis, Jr.? But seriously, does anyone have a clue who
might be next?
I was sitting here secretly hoping that Raymond Scott was Jewish...
Peter
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