Zorn List Digest Monday, February 23 1998 Volume 02 : Number 240
In this issue:
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Re: Pierre Boulez
Panthalassa/Laswell/EQmag
Re: Pierre Boulez
Free Jazz - new transfer?
Re: Free Jazz - new transfer?
Re: Silent Movie music
WUNH DURHAM 91.3fm Modern Jazz report Feb 23 1998
WUNH Durham 91.3fm Mailing address: PCP House of Coffee/Modern Jazz c/o Rich Ladew, WUNH 91.3fm, Memorial Union building UNH, Durham New Hampshire 03824
Zorn agent?
Cynical HH seen
Metheny/Baileys' "Sign of 4" / Dresser's "Dr. Caligari"
Re: vinyl issues ?
Re: Metheny/Baileys' "Sign of 4" / Dresser's "Dr. Caligari"
Re: Metheny/Baileys' "Sign of 4" / Dresser's "Dr. Caligari"
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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 20:13:42 -0300
From: "A. Bueno" <jabu@sminter.com.ar>
Subject: Panthalassa/Laswell/EQmag
Laswell was interviewed by EQ mag on Panthalassa
Interviewer: Did you have the original track sheets?
Laswell: I actually worked from copies of the originals. I recently
remixeda Miles Davis record and that was kind of the same situation.
The oldest tape was from '69 and it was an 8-track, which means there
ware eight tracks and there were eight musicians - so everyone had a
track, including the drums.
The original piece, "In a Silent Way," was over 30 minutes long.
What you hear on the record is obviously much shorter and it has a
repetition in it twice - the same piece of tape. What they did with
that was record a piece and put it together. They recorded some more
stuff, took the original piece and tagged it on after that to create a
full piece of music - it was all manual in those days - scissor edits.
We did that the same way. We made the Miles record by manual razor
editing.
Interviewer: What kind of shape were the Miles tapes in?
Laswell: Not too bad. You have to remember that these were major stars
in their field and I think the big major label people were taking extra
special care of those tapes.
Laswell says about the Miles tapes:
Laswell: ..."Still the way it was mixed is the problem for me. It was
recorded fine and clean but when it comes to mixing a record like "On
the Corner," musically it's more like the beginning of hip-hop. It's
got nothing to do with jazz or classsical. It should be raw, it should
be big,and the bass should be huge. That wasn't evident on that original
mix.
And on "In a Silent Way," aside from the weird ending, there's one part
where a glass or something falls from a table or a piano and hit a mic
and that's the loudest thing on th the record. When we got the
multitrack I said, "Wow, that's amazing, it's really loud." So I went
back and studied the CD release and that's still the loudest thing on
the record. All they had to do was duck it for two seconds. The piano
parts were fragments and you could have just moved the faders in the mix
- - which we did. Then there's talking, I think it was Miles talking,
whispering to Wayne Shorter, which is also easy to duck, but those
things were left in there. They let a lot slide by.I think that was the
system of "let's hurry up and get out another record,"because at that
time there were so many records coming out. Miles himself recorded 20
albums from '69 to '70, and that's not including live recordings.
That was the period where every day something would get recorded.
I have six reels of outtakes of "On the Corner" alone, with a lot of
Indian instruments.It's kind of a mess, but it would be an incredible
record on its own.
A.Bueno (Thanks to M.de la Huerga who sent these excerps)
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 00:35:27 -0500
From: stephen drury <stevedrury@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Pierre Boulez
At 02:16 PM 2/22/98 -0700, you wrote:
>I was wondering if anyone knows anything about books about music theory
>written by Pierre Boulez.
Try looking for "Boulez on Music Today"; also, the published letters between
Boulez and Cage are amazingly rewarding reading.
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 00:17:00
From: "Doug McKay" <mckay003@maroon.tc.umn.edu>
Subject: Free Jazz - new transfer?
I was going to get the 6CD set BEAUTY IS A RARE THING, but saw that FREE
JAZZ is now out in a 1998 reissue, apparently a new digital transfer. Are
the other Atlantic recordings going to also be re-tranferred?
I got Ayler's NEW YORK EYE AND EAR CONTROL. Yep. Ayler stays on my purchase
list! I love his tone, among other things.
I've yet to hear FREE JAZZ and am anxious to pick it up. Through BMG I've
just ordered AT THE GOLDEN CIRCLE STOCKHOLM, both volumes, and Zorn's THE
BIG GUNDOWN. Plus, without knowing a thing about it, I ordered SURRENDER TO
THE AIR by Marc Ribot, Trey Anastasio and Jon Fishman. The blurb said it
was a free jazz sort of thing.
Got a book. THE JAZZ SCENE by W. Royal Stokes. There's some quotation of
Charlie Haden:
"So one night I went to this place - I think it was called The Haig, a jazz
club - and this guy came in to ask if he could play and he got up on stage
and that's the way he was playing, on the feeling of the piece or the
inspiration of the composition rather than on the chord structure. And the
guys that were playing at the time asked him to stop immediately.
"I ran backstage to meet the guy and he was gone. And the next night at the
Hillcrest I told Lenny McBrowne that I heard this alto saxophone player
with this brilliant sound and ideas playing. And he said, 'Was he playing a
plastic alto?' I said, 'Yeah.' He said, 'That was Ornette Coleman.' I said,
'I sure would like to meet him,' and so Lenny said, 'I'll invite him to
come and meet you.'
"So Ornette came by at a Sunday morning jazz session and Lenny introduced
us. ... I told him, 'You played beautiful man,' and he said, 'Well, I don't
hear that very often. Thank you. Would you want to come over to my place
and play some music after you finish here?' I said,'Yeah.'
"So I went over to his house and I was finally able to fulfill the
different feelings that I had about improvisation other than the chord
structure, 'cause he was doing that, Ornette, that's the way he played, and
it was like all of a sudden starting on a new venture or something. We
started rehearsing over at Don Cherry's. I already knew Don and Billy
Higgens. We had played gigs together...." [page 110]
Doug McKay
In Minnesota
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 02:31:30 -0500
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Free Jazz - new transfer?
Doug McKay wrote:
> I was going to get the 6CD set BEAUTY IS A RARE THING, but saw that FREE
> JAZZ is now out in a 1998 reissue, apparently a new digital transfer. Are
> the other Atlantic recordings going to also be re-tranferred?
I doubt it. I would be more inclined to suspect that the new single disc "Free
Jazz" reissue is the same remaster as was used for the box set, which really is
essential for any Ornette fan. The new reissue of "Free Jazz" replaces the
previous single disc version of that disc, but not the box set version, I'd
imagine. Or at least hope...
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 09:53:24 -0700
From: tricky88@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Silent Movie music
I just picked up the new Faust record this week. It is a live
interpretation of F. W. Murnau's "Nosferatu." Faust was a German prog
band along the lines somewhat of Can. Like Can, their style is back in
vogue and they are recording again. This one is very Goth sounding with
lots of deep vocals in German. I know the film quite well, and can't
see much connection between the film and music, but it does have some
interesting moments, and it is quite scary in a good way.
- -Mark Mauer
> Subject: Re: Silent Movie music
> Mark Dresser did 'the cabinet of dr. caligary' for KF's 'loud music,
> silent film' fest and released the music on CD.
> - -jascha
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 09:16:55 -0500 (EST)
From: Richard E Ladew <rladew@hopper.unh.edu>
Subject: WUNH DURHAM 91.3fm Modern Jazz report Feb 23 1998
WUNH DURHAM 91.3fm
Modern Jazz/PCP House of Coffee Reports for Feb 23
Chart is based on approximately 4-6 hours of weekly jazz play
Artist
Album Title
Label
(# of weeks)
1.John Linberg ensemble
Black Saint
(3)
2. Brad Shepik and the Commuters
The Loan
Songlines
(3)
3. Buckethead
Colma
(2)
4. Bill Frisell
Gone, Just Like a Train
Nonesuch
(3)
5. Marc Johnson (featuring J. Baron, B. Frisell, and Brad Jones)
Verve
(1)
6. John Zorn
The PArachute Years box set
Tzadik
(3)
7. Prajna
Postmodernism
Eclectic
(3)
8. Fred Hersch
F.Hersch plays Thelonious
Nonesuch
(3)
9. Bill Ware/Brad Jones, EJ Rodriguez
Vibes
Knitting Factory
(1)
10. Ben Goldberg, Schott, and Sarin
What Comes Before
Tzadik
(2)
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 09:21:00 -0500 (EST)
From: Richard E Ladew <rladew@hopper.unh.edu>
Subject: WUNH Durham 91.3fm Mailing address: PCP House of Coffee/Modern Jazz c/o Rich Ladew, WUNH 91.3fm, Memorial Union building UNH, Durham New Hampshire 03824
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 10:02:55 -0500 (EST)
From: ia zha nah er vesen <jwnarves@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Zorn agent?
I'm looking for a way to talk to someone who organises gigs for John Zorn.
THis used to be easy when Masada were touring, and there was the Masada
page on the KF web-site, with booking links. Not any more, alas...
Help?
- -jascha
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 98 08:22:42 -0500
From: Glenn_Lea@avid.com
Subject: Cynical HH seen
Took my kids to the Boston Children's Museum last week during school
vacation. BIG MISTAKE. Anyway, the one saving grace was that we got to
see a 3-minute Cynical Hysterie Hour excerpt "Ch ch change", including
its skronky Zorn soundtrack. It's part of the modern Japan exhibit
which has a continuously-running 30-minute sequence of anime. I wouldn't
make a special trip for it, but if you're there anyway, don't miss it.
Glenn Lea
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 09:01:38 -0500
From: Bob Kowalski <BKowalski@genetics.com>
Subject: Metheny/Baileys' "Sign of 4" / Dresser's "Dr. Caligari"
As much as I appreciate the talent on both these discs, they haven't
been in my CD changer much since I bought them. Anyone interested in
buying either ($10 a pop) please give a shout (off the list...)
Bob
bkowalski@genetics.com
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 14:09:26 +0000
From: "p.rice" <gda@pingnet.li>
Subject: Re: vinyl issues ?
hi patrice!
sorry, took me a while to check my collection...
zorn/bailey/lewis
i have: celluloid cell5006
tribute to monk
i have: a&m records (uk), amlm 66600 (bought it iu france, too)
zorn/sato - ganryu island
i have the same issue as you!
patRice
Patrice L. Roussel wrote:
>
> Pat,
>
> Could you check the label and catalog number of few of your vinyls?
>
> On Mon, 09 Feb 1998 14:35:49 +0000 "p.rice" wrote:
> >
> > i don't know if zorn is still putting out stuff on vinyl.
> > however, i have the following zorn related titles on good ol' vinyl:
> >
> > john zorn - archery
> > zorn / bailey / lewis - yankees
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> I have the following:
>
> 1983 - Celluloid/OAO, CEL 6706 (LP)
>
> I bought this one in France and I would not be surprised that you have a
> different pressing.
>
> > various - tribute to thelonious monk
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> I have the following:
>
> 1984 - A&M Records (USA), SP-6600 (2xLP)
> 1984 - A&M Records (UK), AMLM 66600 (2xLP)
>
> Same story.
>
> > john zorn + michihiro sato - ganryu island
>
> I guess this one is:
>
> 1985 - Yukon Records, Yukon Records 2101 (LP)
>
> (I would be surprised that there are more than one pressing of it :-).
>
> Thanks!
>
> Patrice.
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 14:51:44 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph S. Zitt" <jzitt@humansystems.com>
Subject: Re: Metheny/Baileys' "Sign of 4" / Dresser's "Dr. Caligari"
On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Bob Kowalski wrote:
> As much as I appreciate the talent on both these discs, they haven't
> been in my CD changer much since I bought them. Anyone interested in
> buying either ($10 a pop) please give a shout (off the list...)
I'll grab both, if still available. What's yer snailmail address? I'm at
