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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #208
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Zorn List Digest Saturday, January 17 1998 Volume 02 : Number 208
In this issue:
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Eyvind Kang
re: Zorn List Digest V2 #207
evan lurie
evan lurie
Zorn CDs for Sale
Re: Zorn CDs for Sale
New Laswell, with and without Zorn, and Re: 2 Laswell questions
New Laswell, with and without Zorn, and Re: 2 Laswell questions
Panthalassa
Re: Panthalassa
Re: Panthalassa
Re: Panthalassa
re: Stalling
Re: Stalling
Evan Lurie
Re: Evan Lurie
Say No More
Re:Stalling
Anyone wanna play with Fripp/Belew??
angelus novus
Re: angelus novus
Frisell/Keltner
Re: Stalling
Re: Evan Lurie
Fushitsusha review
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 01:16:45 -0800
From: Gene Natalia <danberry@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: Eyvind Kang
Eyvind Kang has two albums to his name: "7NADEs" and "Sweetness of
Sickness." Both of these are favorites of mine. I would probably recommend
Sweetness first, but that one is harder to find than the Tzadik-released
7NADEs, so you should take what you can get. He is supposedly coming out
with a new Tzadik release this year called "Theater of Mineral NADEs. He
also plays extensively on the new Secret Chiefs 3 album which is supposedly
being released sometime in the next year. He can also be found on the Bill
Frisell Quartet album, on which he plays Tuba. Most of Kang's own work is
less melodic than the songs on the Great Jew tribute albums. In fact, I
would say it leaned more towards the thematic, a la Mike Patton's Adult
Themes for Voice, although I would not necessarily say the two were similar.
Some of Kang's stuff is just sick in a way that is very pleasing. I
recommend that you check him out. For those of you who are into Trip Hop
and Jungle, check out We's album "As Is," which features Eyvind Kang,
amongst other things.
-Ethan Danberry
- -
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 98 07:59:18 -0500
From: Glenn_Lea@avid.com
Subject: re: Zorn List Digest V2 #207
> Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 11:49:05
> From: Jesse Simon <umsimo10@cc.UManitoba.CA>
> Subject: Carl Stalling
>
> Is there a Zorn-produced or Zorn-related tribute to great Warner
Brothers
> composer Carl Stalling?
As someone mentioned this week, he wrote part of the liner notes to the
"Carl Stalling Project" that Hal Willner did a few years ago. I recall
that Zorn was involved in the early stages of that project but pulled
out over disagreements with Willner. Cynical Hysterie Hour is his own
tribute, I imagine.
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 22:03:13 -0800
> From: Brian Olewnick <olewnik@IDT.NET>
> Subject: Compostela/Fushitsusha
>
> Belatedly picked up Compostela's 'Wadachi'and, natch, enjoy it quite a
> lot. Noting that it was recorded 1991-92, I'm curious to know what, if
> anything, they've recorded since then. Anyone?
A great CD. The liner notes say that one of the members had died, so I
doubt it.
- -
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:21:10 +0000
From: "gschwend d. atelier" <gda@pingnet.li>
Subject: evan lurie
hi everyone!
i remember someone inquiring about evan lurie a few days ago.
don't know if the following's been mentioned yet; i got it
out of a swiss newspaper today.
the soundtrack to photographer cindy sherman's debut film
"office killer" was written by evan lurie.
patRice
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:22:55 +0000
From: "gschwend d. atelier" <gda@pingnet.li>
Subject: evan lurie
hi everyone!
i remember someone inquiring about evan lurie a few days ago.
don't know if the following's been mentioned yet; i got it
out of a swiss newspaper today.
the soundtrack to photographer cindy sherman's debut film
"office killer" was written by evan lurie. (no further
information given...)
patRice
- -
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:33:32 EST
From: Mark2u <Mark2u@aol.com>
Subject: Zorn CDs for Sale
In a message dated 1/12/98 11:28:20 AM, Patrice wrote:
>Time to introduce the notion of "a record we put back on the turntable",
>as opposed to the "record you should own at any price, but never listen to".
Well put, Patrice. With that in mind I've decided to eliminate some CDs that
don't get much play, including:
Classic Guide to Strategy
Elegy
Derek & The Ruins -Saisoro
Henry Threadgil - Too much sugar
as well as some other downtown artists, Eno & Fripp related, and a lot of more
conventional rock & jazz. Anyone who is interested can email me directly for a
list.
Mark Stevens
- -
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:06:12 -0800
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Zorn CDs for Sale
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:33:32 EST Mark2u wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 1/12/98 11:28:20 AM, Patrice wrote:
>
> >Time to introduce the notion of "a record we put back on the turntable",
> >as opposed to the "record you should own at any price, but never listen to".
>
> Well put, Patrice. With that in mind I've decided to eliminate some CDs that
> don't get much play, including:
>
> Classic Guide to Strategy
> Elegy
> Derek & The Ruins -Saisoro
> Henry Threadgil - Too much sugar
This list pretty much matches my list of "record we put back on the turntable".
SAISORO is a record a thought I would not like (sounded initially like a
producer gimmick). With the first 5 bars, I knew that my fears were not
justified. The "morphism" of both styles is pretty amazing. You never get
the feeling that each (Ruins or Bailey) give in the other style, nevertherless,
you never feel that the result is a juxtaposition of style (hence the word
"morphism").
ELEGY is also one of my favorite from Zorn. Zorn did a great job at conveying
the "deletere" (unhealthy?) atmosphere of Genet's writing.
To my shame, I do not have the Threadgill...
Patrice.
> as well as some other downtown artists, Eno & Fripp related, and a lot of more
> conventional rock & jazz. Anyone who is interested can email me directly for a
> list.
>
> Mark Stevens
>
> -
>
- -
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:04:45 -0800
From: Jeff Spirer <jeffs@hyperreal.org>
Subject: New Laswell, with and without Zorn, and Re: 2 Laswell questions
At 10:21 PM 1/14/98 PST, Silent Watcher wrote:
>I was told by a friend recently that he saw somewhere that Janet
>Rienstra mentioned a new deal for a spoken word label that she and
>Laswell had. Does anyone know anything about this? Is it a deal with
>Triloka, since the Material re-release was issued on META, through them?
I think that what this is about is that Janet is trying to revive the Meta
label, outside of Caroline.
>
>Also, in an absolutely great interview with Lori Carson at
>http://www.innerviews.org/inner/carson.html
>she mentions doing a track for an upcoming Material album. Does anyone
>know the scoop on that? Any help would be muchly appreciated.
The album is called _Intanamori_, although I have probably spelled it
wrong, and it doesn't have a release date yet. It's got a lot of
hip/trip-hop stuff. There's still some vocal tracks to be recorded, and
mixing. Axiom.
Here's some other new stuff being recorded at Bill's new studio:
Zorn, Laswell, Fred Frith, Charles Hayward, produced by John. Tzadik.
Percy Howard (Nus), Laswell, Fred Frith, Hayward, produced by Laswell.
Oscillations 2. Just Bill. SubRosa.
Talvin Singh, Bill Laswell, Tricky.
Next Pharoah Sanders, _Jewels of Love_, should be finished mixing next month.
Jeff Spirer
Axiom/Material
http://www.hyperreal.org/axiom/
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:08:51 -0800
From: Jeff Spirer <jeffs@hyperreal.org>
Subject: New Laswell, with and without Zorn, and Re: 2 Laswell questions
At 10:21 PM 1/14/98 PST, Silent Watcher wrote:
>I was told by a friend recently that he saw somewhere that Janet
>Rienstra mentioned a new deal for a spoken word label that she and
>Laswell had. Does anyone know anything about this? Is it a deal with
>Triloka, since the Material re-release was issued on META, through them?
I think that what this is about is that Janet is trying to revive the Meta
label, outside of Caroline.
>
>Also, in an absolutely great interview with Lori Carson at
>http://www.innerviews.org/inner/carson.html
>she mentions doing a track for an upcoming Material album. Does anyone
>know the scoop on that? Any help would be muchly appreciated.
The album is called _Intanamori_, although I have probably spelled it
wrong, and it doesn't have a release date yet. It's got a lot of
hip/trip-hop stuff. There's still some vocal tracks to be recorded, and
mixing. Axiom.
Here's some other new stuff being recorded at Bill's new studio:
Zorn, Laswell, Fred Frith, Charles Hayward, produced by John. Tzadik.
Percy Howard (Nus), Laswell, Fred Frith, Hayward, produced by Laswell.
Oscillations 2. Just Bill. SubRosa.
Talvin Singh, Bill Laswell, Tricky.
Next Pharoah Sanders, _Jewels of Love_, should be finished mixing next month.
Jeff Spirer
Axiom/Material
http://www.hyperreal.org/axiom/
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:04:45 UT
From: peter_risser@cinfin.com
Subject: Panthalassa
Is there any more news about when this is coming out?
Someone once said the end of January, but I'm getting antsy, as I haven't seen
anything about it. Could someone reassure me?
Thanks,
Peter
- -
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:50:55 -0600 (CST)
From: Brian & Sharon Beuchaw <beuchaw@enteract.com>
Subject: Re: Panthalassa
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 peter_risser@cinfin.com wrote:
> Is there any more news about when this is coming out?
> Someone once said the end of January, but I'm getting antsy, as I haven't seen
> anything about it. Could someone reassure me?
>
> Thanks,
> Peter
ICE magazine says Feb. 17. And the newest issue of ICE has a little
description of what each track is made up of and how long it is, etc.
cya
brian
- --------------------------------------------------------
"The most dementing of all modern sins: the inability to
distinguish excellence from success." - David Hare
- -
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:23:13 -0800
From: Jeff Spirer <jeffs@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: Panthalassa
March 10.
At 08:04 PM 1/15/98 UT, peter_risser@cinfin.com wrote:
>Is there any more news about when this is coming out?
>Someone once said the end of January, but I'm getting antsy, as I haven't
seen
>anything about it. Could someone reassure me?
>
>Thanks,
>Peter
>
>-
>
>
>
Jeff Spirer
Axiom/Material
http://www.hyperreal.org/axiom/
- -
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:30:20 -0800
From: Jeff Spirer <jeffs@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: Panthalassa
At 02:50 PM 1/15/98 -0600, Brian & Sharon Beuchaw wrote:
>ICE magazine says Feb. 17. And the newest issue of ICE has a little
>description of what each track is made up of and how long it is, etc.
The change from Sony was in all likelihood post-press time for ICE. It is
currently March 10. Sony could pull it in, but that would probably be a
first.
Maybe it got bumped for a new Mariah Carey CD.
Jeff Spirer
Axiom/Material
http://www.hyperreal.org/axiom/
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:29:19 -0500 (EST)
From: Christopher Hamilton <chhst9+@pitt.edu>
Subject: re: Stalling
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 Glenn_Lea@avid.com wrote:
> As someone mentioned this week, he wrote part of the liner notes to the
> "Carl Stalling Project" that Hal Willner did a few years ago. I recall
> that Zorn was involved in the early stages of that project but pulled
> out over disagreements with Willner. Cynical Hysterie Hour is his own
> tribute, I imagine.
"Cat O' Nine Tails" on Kronos' _Short Stories_ is the most
Stalling-sounding Zorn piece I've heard.
Chris Hamilton
- -
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:52:04 -0500
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Stalling
Christopher Hamilton wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 Glenn_Lea@avid.com wrote:
>
> > Cynical Hysterie Hour is his own
> > tribute, I imagine.
>
> "Cat O' Nine Tails" on Kronos' _Short Stories_ is the most
> Stalling-sounding Zorn piece I've heard.
Agreed. The solo accordion piece "Road Runner" (Guy Klucevsek, "Manhattan
Cascade" CRI) and solo harp piece "Tasmanian Devil" (Carol Emanuel, "Tops of
Trees," Koch) are also obvious tributes, as denoted by the titles themselves.
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
- -
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:32:21 -0600
From: Mark Corroto <mcorroto@alumni.ysu.edu>
Subject: Evan Lurie
I remember watching the Italian Movie
Johnny Stecchino, and seeing that Evan Lurie
composed the soundtrack.
Has anyone ever seen this on disc?
mc
- -
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:54:16 +0100
From: Stephane Vuilleumier <svuilleu@micro.biol.ethz.ch>
Subject: Re: Evan Lurie
This turns out to become a nice trainspotting exercise!
At the movies last night I saw & heard the trailer for the new
Office Killer by Cindy Sherman, with music by Evan Lurie as
mentioned yesterday. Same question: has anybody seen this disc?
BTW, Marc Ribot definitely plays as well on the soundtrack.
Any other Zorn-related musicians involved in this?
Stephane
At 21:32 15.01.98 -0600, Mark Corroto <mcorroto@alumni.ysu.edu> wrote:
>I remember watching the Italian Movie
>Johnny Stecchino, and seeing that Evan Lurie
>composed the soundtrack.
>
>Has anyone ever seen this on disc?
>
>mc
>
>-
>
>
>
- -
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:01:41 +0100
From: Yves Dewulf <yves@inwpent1.rug.ac.be>
Subject: Say No More
Ostertag/Hemingway/Minton/Dresser live
Waw!!
- -
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:14:54 +0100
From: Yves Dewulf <yves@inwpent1.rug.ac.be>
Subject: Re:Stalling
Steve Smith wrote:
>Agreed. The solo accordion piece "Road Runner" (Guy Klucevsek, "Manhattan
>Cascade" CRI) and solo harp piece "Tasmanian Devil" (Carol Emanuel, "Tops of
>Trees," Koch) are also obvious tributes, as denoted by the titles themselves.
I remember seeing Klucevsek in a live performance of "Road Runner".
During this demanding performance his accordion was damaged in such a way
that he had to cancel the remaining part of the concert.
YVes
(I apologize for the fact that this mail may reach te list several times)
- -
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:14:50 -0600
From: Christopher John Moon <anhedonia@mindspring.com>
Subject: Anyone wanna play with Fripp/Belew??
Hey,
Does anyone know of any artists who would be interested in playing a show
headlined by a new Robert Fripp/Adrian Belew project in Nashville the week
of Feb. 18-20...it's part of NEA (Nashville's version of CMJ, SXSW, etc...).
Email me with any ideas. Thanks,
Christopher Moon
- -
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 22:23:54 +0100 (MEZ)
From: BJOERN <bjoern.eichstaedt@student.uni-tuebingen.de>
Subject: angelus novus
according to the tzadik page it seems as if this record is out......
am i wrong???????????????????????
there is at least a photo of the cover and the page clearly says:
recent releases.....any comments?
BJOERN
- -
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:34:30 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph S. Zitt" <jzitt@humansystems.com>
Subject: Re: angelus novus
On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, BJOERN wrote:
> according to the tzadik page it seems as if this record is out......
> am i wrong???????????????????????
> there is at least a photo of the cover and the page clearly says:
> recent releases.....any comments?
I undeerstand that it and the other releases will be out this coming
Tuesday in the US. (I'm eagerly awaiting the Daniel Goode CD!))
- -
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:49:05 -0600
From: "Glenn Astarita" <gastarit@comm.net>
Subject: Frisell/Keltner
Finally picked up Gone, Just Like a Train.....with regards to the recent
thread about drummer Jim Keltner..well, i'll say this....the guy is an
artist ! listen to the sublties, the sensitive approach and the
unobtrusiveness. Keltner's trademark approach is evident here: A
wonderful timekeeper. He commands every nuance and sound from the kit.
These are the records you play for your kid who has apirations of becoming
a drummer. He's not the fastest but he's slick. His hi-hat work alone
should be studied if nothing else. These are the reasons why he may be the
most sought after session drummer in the world. I may be a bit biased
since i play but......................and the cd is excellent. It cooks..!
I was expecting an Earl Klugh record based on some of the previous
comments.......Anyway, my 2 cents..
glenn
- -
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:58:55 +0100
From: Yves Dewulf <yves@inwpent1.rug.ac.be>
Subject: Re: Stalling
>Agreed. The solo accordion piece "Road Runner" (Guy Klucevsek, "Manhattan
>Cascade" CRI) and solo harp piece "Tasmanian Devil" (Carol Emanuel, "Tops of
>Trees," Koch) are also obvious tributes, as denoted by the titles themselves
I remember seeing Klucevsek in a live performance of "Road Runner", during
this demanding performance his accordeon was damaged in such a way, that
he had the cancel the remaining part of the concert.
YVes
-
- -
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 98 8:59:38 EST
From: M.Ho <mus4mth@atlas.vcu.edu>
Subject: Re: Evan Lurie
Evan also did a track for Steve Buscemi's film TREES LOUNGE.
- -Mary
- -
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:38:03 -0500
From: "David J. Keffer" <keffer@shell.planetc.com>
Subject: Fushitsusha review
Hello folks on the zorn-list,
Earlier this week, there was a question asking
for a review of the first Fushitsusha release
(untitled, PSF, PSFD-3/4) which was reissued last
month as a double cd (after the original double
lp had been out of print for several years).
So here's a review: Get it. It's great.
If you haven't heard the second Fushitsusha release,
also a double live cd (untitled, PSF, PSFD-15/16, 1991),
get this one (PSFD 15/16) first. If you have the second
Fushitsusha release, then there should be no question in
your mind that another double live cd set is worth picking up.
The first release is overall a little more mellow
than the second. Like the second release, it has
both sonically dense songs as well as soft, meandering tunes
but the latter dominate the album. Through-out,
it has Keiji Haino's distinctive voice and guitar.
Regarding more comments on the first album, there are
some pertinent words at the Forced Exposure website.
For a long review of Fushitsusha's second release
(originally printed in Forced Exposure Mag)
go to the Charnel Music page at
http://www.charnel.com/charnel/bands/fushitsusha/
Hope that helps.
By the way, in early 1998, two more recent live
Fushitsusha recordings are planned.
Fushitsusha -- "Gold Blood"
Live at San Francisco's Great American Music Hall
Performed: November, 1996
Charnel Music - CHCD 30 -- release: March, 1998
Fushitsusha --
Live at the Festival International de Musique Actuelle Victoriaville, Canada
Performed: May 16, 1997 (This is the first release with the new line-up.)
Victo -- ? -- release: early 1998
david
maintainer of "An Unofficial Keiji Haino Website"
http://www.planetc.com/users/keffer/haino/index.html
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