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Zorn List Digest        Monday, July 31 2000        Volume 02 : Number 1019



In this issue:
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       Masada - Live in Sevilla...
       Re: Zorn biography (continued)
       Zorn recommends!!!!
       RE: Dave Douglas' interview
       RE: Dave Douglas' interview
       Re: Odp: Live Komeda CDs on Polonia
       Great (?) Jewish (?) Brubeck
       Live Komeda CDs on Polonia
       Sunday Meditational Quote
       britney/keiji/chan
       Re: Live Komeda CDs on Polonia
       new Otomo CD
       re: new Otomo CD
       Re: Great (?) Jewish (?) Brubeck
       Odp: Panthalassa

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Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 07:26:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Theo Klaase <[e-mail]>
Subject: Masada - Live in Sevilla...

    I had the wonderful privilege to see Masada Live
in Montreal just a few weeks ago, and this new Live
album reminds me of that particular show... In terms
of the set list, interplay, sound quality, etc.
     Let me just say that I've got all the official
Masada releases, and this album is possibly the best
release to date!  Certainly better than Jerusalem,
Middleheim, Taipei, both in sound quality, song
selections, and improvs, although I enjoy all those
albums on their own terms...  I personally think
Masada 8 was the best studio release, and this new
Live album ranks right up there.  Nothing quite
captures Masada Live unless you're there in person,
but this new release is as close as it gets.......
...and Zorn's playing has never been more amazing....
Take care all...


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Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 01:31:06 +1000
From: "Julian" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Zorn biography (continued)

> That's it. I realise that Avant is not the name of Zorn's label, it's
Tzadik.

Avant is another of his labels though, he released most of the Naked City
albums on it, and various interesting projects by his colleagues such as
Dave Douglas. The recent tribute to Dave Brubeck was also released on Avant.



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Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:08:11 PDT
From: "John Schuller" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Zorn recommends!!!!

The Chidren of the One....

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ⁿmlaⁿt fanclub members are invited to our first American Rock Concert since
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@ 1921 5th Ave, Seattle. 9pm $5....

ⁿmlaⁿt will be going on our fourth European tour in Roctober...with the
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Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:38:07 -0300
From: "Hugo Linares" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Dave Douglas' interview

Hi Artur,

Of course you can upload it.
Even if you want, you can add these Dave's words on Misha. They were
included in a paper note that was on every table in the pub (La Trastienda)
where they played amazing, incredible, wonderful music.
These are as follows:

"Misha Mengelberg is one of the most important composer/pianist/philosophers
of the last hundred years. It is an absolute thrill for me to be playing
many of his compositions with. We will also be improvising together as well
as possibly performing de- and re- constructions of pieces by Thelonious
Monk and Herbie Nichols. Misha is a master of the spontaneous moment, so
much of what happens will be an ever evolving event."
Dave Douglas.

I hope this helps and glad to let know Dave's opinions in your website.

Later,

Hugo Linares



- -----Mensaje original-----
De: Artur Nowak <[e-mail]>
Para: Hugo Linares <[e-mail]>
Fecha: Viernes 28 de Julio de 2000 03:25 AM
Asunto: RE: Dave Douglas' interview


>Hi Hugo,
>
>have fun listening to Dave and Misha!
>
>> Subject: Dave Douglas' interview
>
>I have a web-magazine dedicated to Dvae, Zorn, Frisell, and other
>artists I admire, I thought your interview would be a very interesting
>addition. Could I translate it into polish and upload to my website?
>It's available at www.emd.pl
>
>Please let me know
>
>Take care
>
>    __________________________________________________________________
>    Artur Nowak [arno at emd dot pl] www.emd.pl
>




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Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 03:13:00 -0300
From: "Hugo Linares" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Dave Douglas' interview

>Darn! I am discovered :-). Since you are here, Dave did not say more
>about this recording session with Yuka?
>
> Patrice.

Definitely not. Though he did a couple of interviews here in Argentina, one
in a music radio show and two others in local newspapers, nobody asked him
about Cibo Matto (sorry Patrice, I could have asked him). I guess he was
known mostly as a "jazz musician" and because "Jazztimes" and "Down Beat"
bla, bla, bla, bla...

One more tidbit: as a listener I asked Dave on that radio show if he was
planning to record a solo cd, regarding his version on Brubeck's "Nomad" (In
his Own Sweet Way.- A Tribute to Dave Brubeck - Avant), and after a short
laugh his answer was "no; no; it was funny and easy for five minutes but I
prefer the bands."
Last but not least: he really spoke in a very good Spanish in most of the
interview.

By the way, the show was terrific.

Hugo (still amazed...and waiting for Bill Frisell)



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Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 04:09:22 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Odp: Live Komeda CDs on Polonia

In a message dated 7/28/00 5:00:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< > Is anyone here familiar with the live stuff in the incredible 20 release
 _Complete..._ series on >Polonia?  Looking for the best of the heap to get
 me inspired to investigate further...

 I do not know the series numbers... could you send me title etc. info? >>

Sorry about the time lapse...here ya go-

 2.  Krzysztof Komeda -- Complete Recordings Of Krzysztof Komeda Vol 1 & 2 --
Live In Copenhagen . . . CD . . . 19.99
Polonia Records (Poland), 1965 (2CD) Condition: New Copy   | View Cart
2CDs worth of live material by Polish jazz great Krzysztof Komeda, recorded
during his most fruitful period! The set features material recorded by
Komeda, Tomasz Stanko, and a young Michael Urbaniak during a stay in
Copenhagen in 1965 -- and although the trio is backed by a Danish rhythm
section, the sound is all their own, and the work of the two horn players is
particularly strong. Urbaniak's tenor work here is very different than his
later 70s fusion playing -- and it's got a wonderfully edgey style that
reminds us of some of the best sax players that worked with Mingus during the
late 50s and early 60s. Stanko's always been one of the most overlooked
trumpet players of the European scene -- and his playing here has a moody
atmospheric quality that is part Miles Davis late 50s, part modernism of
playings like Johnny Coles or Richard Williams. Komeda's great, as always --
and his piano leads the quintet through long readings of his own
compositions, including "Repetition", "Sophia's Tune", "Kattorna", "Crazy
Girl", and "Dwojka Rzymska". The sound quality of the original recording is
perhaps a bit too live, but the music is excellent, and the set is an
essential addition to the Komeda catalog! (This item is found on the Jazz CD
(F-L) page.)

 3.  Krzysztof Komeda -- Complete Recordings Of Krzysztof Komeda Vol 3 & 4 --
Live At Jazz Jamboree . . . CD . . . 19.99
Polonia Records (Poland), 1963/65 (2CDs) Condition: New Copy   | View Cart
The Jazz Jamboree festival was one of Europe's greatest meeting places for
jazz talents in the 60s -- and although it was held in Poland, and never
received as much coverage and backing as some of the Western European
festivals, it also had the great fortune of being very regularly recorded,
which means that we've got some fantastic audio documents of the excellent
performances that took place over the years! This 2CD set features classic
work by Polish jazz great Krzysztof Komeda -- with one disc from the year
1963, and another from 1965. You've heard us rave about Komeda's work on
these pages elsewhere, and this set is no exception to our great love of his
music. Both concerts are archly modern, with the kind of angular
experimentation that we'd attribute to classic Ornette, Mingus, or Joe
Harriott. And like those more famous leaders, the live performances of
Komeda's group were always worth searching out -- as the strength of the
group meant that they were always taking chances, always breaking out, always
exploring new areas in their live performances. The 2CDs only feature a total
of 5 songs in all, but they're all wonderfully expanded versions of some of
Komeda's best jazz compositions -- including "Dwojka Rzymska", "Astigmatic",
and "Kattorna". (This item is found on the Jazz CD (F-L) page.)

 4.  Krzysztof Komeda -- Complete Recordings Of Krzysztof Komeda Vol 5 --
Astigmatic Live . . . CD . . . 11.99
Polonia Records (Poland), 1965 Condition: New Copy   | View Cart
Great stuff from this legendary figure in Polish jazz! "Astigmatic" was one
of Komeda's greatest compositions ever -- an angular emotional workout that
reminds us of the best late 50s work by Mingus, or of Jackie McLean's
immediate pre-"new thing" sessions, like A Fickle Sonance. The track has a
jaunty feel, with kind of a stop/start approach that moves inside and out,
but always manages to swing at the right moments. Komeda and his group
perform a 20 minute long live version of the track here -- recorded at the
Monmartre Jazz Club in Copenhagen -- and they also play long versions of
Komeda's "Kattorna" and "Svantetic", both excellent tracks as well. The group
includes the legendary Tomasz Stanko on trumpet, Rune Carlsson on drums, and
a young Michael Urbaniak on tenor. The contents are the same as on the other
Power Brothers CD of live Astigmatic recordings from 1965 -- but the
packaging is different, and the CD does not have the enhanced CD rom of the
other. (This item is found on the Jazz CD (F-L) page.)

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Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:21:12 +0200 (MET DST)
From: [e-mail] (Stephen Fruitman)
Subject: Great (?) Jewish (?) Brubeck

>The recent tribute to Dave Brubeck

And what exactly do list members think of this album?

And are there any indications that future installments of the "Great Jewish
Music" series are in the pipeline? Why not Irving Berlin, for example? Zorn
himself once wrote me that ain=B4t nothing more Jewish than "White Christmas=
"
or "Easter Parade" (?).

All the best, Stephen







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Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:37:40 +0200
From: "Marcin Gokieli" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Live Komeda CDs on Polonia

Hi,
I thought you was looking for info, but apparently you have some good source
of them.... My recommendation would be the studio 'astigmatic'. I've heard
two live 2cds - in copenhagen and at jazz jamboree. Material is really OK,
but the sound quality is rather low. I'd suggest studio recordings of
Komeda's bands. Astigmatic is really incredible, really one of the v\best
jazz records. The music has some structural quality, and compositions are
very originals. I dot know much about the new edition, except
As for other polish bands, there's not much of great stuff. The main player
here is without doubt Tomasz Stanko. His recent records on ECM are really
great. 'Litania' and 'matka joanna od aniolow' (maybe it has an english
title, it's inspired by a polish film) are with a free quintet that includes
scandinavian players. High quality. The last, with similiar instrumenatation
to cgharms of the night sky (+drums), is also very good.
There was a band called milosc, which used to play some nice stuff. They
have made two albums with Lester Bowie. I've only heard the live one, which
was OK, but not that great. NEver heard the studio recordings that were
released few months ago (maybe someone here did?).
Of course, there's the incredible Mala Rzecz a Cieszy project (now reduced
to a duo - some Marcin Gokieli on voacls, words, synths, piano, electronics
and AM radio, and Mikolaj Hernik on reeds and electronics - with guests on
various instruments and vocalists to read the texts), that migrated from
weird jazz to non-idiomatic improv and compositions. But no
recordings are available... despite the fact that somegood stuff was
recorded. ;-)
Marcin Gokieli
[e-mail]
Generally speaking, if a philosopher offers to 'dissolve' the problem you
are working on, tell him to go climb a tree - Jerry Fodor



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Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 10:30:24 -0700
From: "s~Z" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sunday Meditational Quote

The dignity of art appears to the greatest advantage
perhaps in music, because that art contains no material
to be deducted. It is wholly form and intrinsic value,
and it elevates and ennobles everything which it expresses.

               --Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe




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Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 14:37:20 -0400
From: Lang Thompson <[e-mail]>
Subject: britney/keiji/chan

FE says that the new album from Keiji Haino's band Aihiyo includes a cover
of "Satisfaction" which makes the third this year alongside Britney Spears
and Cat Power.  Who'd a thunk it?

LT

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Adventures In Sound
http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/adventures.htm

Full Alert Film Review
http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/fafr.htm

Funhouse
http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/funhouse.htm

"Where Do You Want to Go Today"
Somewhere you can never take me!



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Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:30:53 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Live Komeda CDs on Polonia

there's a long Komeda piece here, reviewing a bunch of his discs:

http://motion.state51.co.uk/features/komeda/

Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com

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Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:47:32 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: new Otomo CD

a new Otomo CD showed up at Other Music this week, Music for DanceArt Hong
Kong's "Memory Disorder" (Sonic Factory). it's divided into two parts, the
first being 24 one minute pieces collectively titled Vinyl Tranquilizer No.
2, and the second being a 27 minute piece called Memory Disorder No. 6. the
one minute tracks seem a little hit or miss to me once removed from the
dances I assume they were composed for, but the long track is one of the best
things I've heard from Otomo, a really nicely flowing piece. I'm not sure
where Other Music (www.othermusic.com) got them from, since it wasn't on the
new Forced Exposure release list, but they're only 14 bucks, not bad for a
full-length Hong Kong import. recommended.

the recent 3 inch CD by Sachiko M., Debris (Sound Factory) is also highly
recommended, easily the most accomplished solo work I've heard from her yet.

and to finish out a troika of sine wave suggestions, the new Zbigniew
Karkowski 3 inch on Mego, IT, is superb. it made me think of what I keep
hoping I'll hear from Francisco Lopez, but never seem to. plus all 1000
copies have different covers, which I think is pretty cool.

Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com

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Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 21:40:53 -0400
From: Taylor McLaren <[e-mail]>
Subject: re: new Otomo CD

MEEP! [e-mail] wrote:
>the one minute tracks seem a little hit or miss to me once removed from
>the dances I assume they were composed for, but the long track is one of the
>best things I've heard from Otomo, a really nicely flowing piece.
For what it's worth, I don't think that it's all that likely that the Vinyl
Tranquilizer No.2 tracks were actually meant to accompany dances of any
sort, at least not if the title is any indication. The original _Vinyl
Tranquilizer_ (a collection of "1minute, concentrated 1vinyl experimental
record" tracks, as the jacket says) was meant as a tongue-in-cheek bit of
sleep-inducing music, which I can't see working too well as material for a
dance troupe.
  On the other hand, if I'm not completely off my gourd, I think that the
original _Memory Disorder_ *was* written as dance accompaniment, so this
latest disc is probably a collection of extra bits and pieces that somebody
decided to stick together to round out a full release.

- -me



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Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:10:12 -0500
From: Steve Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Great (?) Jewish (?) Brubeck

Stephen Fruitman wrote:

> And are there any indications that future installments of the "Great Je=
wish
> Music" series are in the pipeline? Why not Irving Berlin, for example? =
Zorn
> himself once wrote me that ain=B4t nothing more Jewish than "White Chri=
stmas"
> or "Easter Parade" (?).

You're not the first to mention Berlin, and I think it's a dandy idea.

When I spoke to Zorn at a club a few weeks ago he mentioned in passing
that he
was considering the music of four self-described "mooks" from Queens.  He=
re's
a hint: "HEY! HO! LET'S GO!"

And while we're on the subject, a while back there was an entire joking t=
hread
on doing a Kiss tribute and I sent to the list a potential track list.  S=
ince
then my PC has died and I lost absolutely everything on it.  So, not to
flatter myself with such thoughts, but does ANYONE out there still have
a copy
of my "Great Jewish Music: Stanley Eisen and Chaim Witz" tracklist?  Woul=
d
love to have it again.

Thanks,
Steve Smith
[e-mail]
NP - Michael Hedges, "Rickover's Dream," 'The Best of Michael Hedges' (Wi=
ndham
Hill)

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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:45:32 +0200
From: "Marcin Gokieli" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Odp: Panthalassa

From: Neil H. Enet <[e-mail]>

> Personally, I like the album very much.  I don't know if it was a good
> starting point, but it was my first Miles CD!!!!  I was just starting to
get

Well... When i got it, i also liked it quite a bit. The idea is great: to
find out what this 'early electronic funkjazz' would sound like with today'
s technology. But - what can I say - the thing is OK, i do not have anything
against it, but i listen to the original stuff much more. That music is so
incredible... Just listen to 'black beauty' or 'dark magus' (as to live
stuff), or 'get up with it' or 'on the corner' (the studio). Nobody has done
such a thing since! Laswell's dubs do not even compare IMH(but sttrongly
sustained)O.

> But now that I know Miles a little bit more, I think it was a good
starting
> place, it really showed me a little bit of what Miles is all about.

That can be true, it is an intersting and profound look at what that music
consists in. You can also see what previous miles stuff is about through it.
Surely better then some kind of 'best miles' etc.

> I understand it includes never before heard music from those sessions, so
I
> don't see why the regular Miles fan doesn't approve it, in spite of the
> reconstruction thing.
BTW : maybe that's not the disc i'm talking about, I've got the first one, a
second disc with more dub stuff was out later... Anyhow the same should
apply ;-)
Marcin Gokieli
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
np Miles Davis - On the Corner
Generally speaking, if a philosopher offers to 'dissolve' the problem you
are working on, tell him to go climb a tree - Jerry Fodor








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