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zorn-list Digest        Friday, August 15 1997        Volume 02 : Number 097



In this issue:

    Re: Panthalassa/Dub Meltdown
    Re: Duras:Duchamp
    Re: Duras:Duchamp
    Re: Praxis CD
    Re: Panthalassa/Dub Meltdown
    Re: zorn-list Digest V2 #94
    Re: Bailey mini-fest
    We're Waking Up Out Here
    gigs at alt.coffee
    Re: non-Knit NYC music venue
    Grand Guinore
    Re: melvins
    Re: melvins
    Re: Panthalassa/Dub Meltdown
    Re: Praxis CD
    Christian Marclay CD
    Burt Bacharach
    Re: Burt Bacharach (Zorn Executive Producer)
    Re: Burt Bacharach
    Re: Burt Bacharach
    Re: masada 4 & 1
    Re: non-Knit NYC music venue
    Who's on Drums?
    Re: Grand Guinore

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Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:39:08 +0200 (GMT+0200)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Panthalassa/Dub Meltdown

On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, Jeff Spirer wrote:

> At 12:10 PM 8/4/97 -0700, Jeff Spirer wrote:
> Well for those of you with enough good taste to not read r.m.b.,
> _Panthalassa_ has been delayed until January.

r.m.b.? rec.mmmm.bob? rec.muso.bastards? rec.music.bhangra?


 teemu :)

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Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 08:26:50 -0700
From: dayna <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Duras:Duchamp

The street-date for Duras-Duchamp (and FIlmworks 8) in the U.S. is NEXT
week, August 19.  Are some stores getting these early?

One of the reasons I ask is that I work at a large music distribution
company, and WE won't get these in to our warehouse until Friday.

I also got the Koch Distribution one-sheet  on the Parachute Years set.
$99.98 list price and supposedly only  1000 made world-wide.  Wasn't one
of the reasons behind Tzadik to make a lot of these hard to find pieces
widely available?

- -Mark

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Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 08:29:36 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Duras:Duchamp

On Thu, 14 Aug 1997 08:26:50 -0700  dayna wrote:
>
> The street-date for Duras-Duchamp (and FIlmworks 8) in the U.S. is NEXT
> week, August 19.  Are some stores getting these early?

The record has been available in Europe for a month now. And yes, some
stores/chains get it earlier.

> One of the reasons I ask is that I work at a large music distribution
> company, and WE won't get these in to our warehouse until Friday.
>
> I also got the Koch Distribution one-sheet  on the Parachute Years set.
> $99.98 list price and supposedly only  1000 made world-wide.  Wasn't one
> of the reasons behind Tzadik to make a lot of these hard to find pieces
> widely available?

In this case, the question would be: are there 1000 potential customers
for such a set :-).

This is not "easy-listening" stuff (if Zorn/Chadbourne ever did some). 1000
seems to me, based on the special nature of the reissue (a 6xCD (7?) set),
a good number.

    Patrice.

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Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 08:34:35 PDT
From: "David Brunelle" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Praxis CD

>> BTW: I found in a CD catalogue: Praxis "Metatron" Limited Edition.
>> Could someone tell me what is the difference between "normal"
edition.
>
>The limited edition has fancy packaging. The front (and back , I think)
>are covered with rubber spikes.

I saw it in a catalog called the "Power Rubber Box". I've heard that
it's actually the inside of a NYC body bag.

Dave Brunelle
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Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 08:45:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: SUGAR in their vitamins? <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Panthalassa/Dub Meltdown

On Thu, 14 Aug 1997 [e-mail] wrote:

> r.m.b.? rec.mmmm.bob? rec.muso.bastards? rec.music.bhangra?

rec.music.bluenote

hasta.

Yes.  Beautiful, wonderful nature.  Hear it sing to us: *snap*  Yes.  natURE.

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Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 13:50:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: zorn-list Digest V2 #94

In a message dated 8/14/97 12:41:47 AM, mcmullenm wrote:

>Does anyone know if Zorn is playing So. California while on the west coast
>this month?

As far as I understand, Zorn does not like So. Cal. He did play Santa Barbara
a few years back, but usually sticks to SF on his way to Japan.

joe

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Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 14:10:22 -0400
From: Steve Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Bailey mini-fest

Brent Burton wrote:

> Hey!  Does anyone have anymore info about the Bailey fest?  Dates?
> Potential performers?

Last I saw before leaving the Knit, the fest was tentatively scheduled
for Oct. 30-31.  There were no confirmed names as Derek will be choosing
his partners himself, but those mentioned in the Knit's internal
calendar included mostly the usual suspects - Zorn, Ikue Mori, DJ Soul
Slinger.  That's really why I sent the fax about
Eskelin/Moran/Hollenbeck... I know Bailey enjoys meeting artists he has
NOT already worked with.  (Not that there's anything WRONG with those
few names listed...)  :-)

I would also expect that he'll be paired with pipa player Min-Xiao Fen,
since he recorded with her for Tzadik while he was here last December
for the Bailey/Metheny/Bendian/Wertico sessions.  This should be cool as
I've heard only amazing things about her and was impressed mightily by a
brief stretch of improv with her and Jim Staley I heard during a recent
Zorn improv fest.

BTW the next of these now semi-regular Zorn improv fests at the Knit
will be held on August 30 (and remember that Masada is back at the Knit
on September 25-28, and Joey Baron's new Down Home band with Bill
Frisell, Arthur Blythe and Ron Carter is now evidently confirmed for
October 15-16, with a record due around the same time on the Intuition
label).

Steve Smith
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 11:40:29 -0700
From: "mcmullenm" <[e-mail]>
Subject: We're Waking Up Out Here

|
| As far as I understand, Zorn does not like So. Cal. He did play Santa
Barbara
| a few years back, but usually sticks to SF on his way to Japan.
|
| joe


Most of the artists I love hate Southern California, but things are slowly
changing...one recent East Coaster playing the Alligator Lounge in Santa
Monica remarked afterward that the audience at that venue shocked him in
terms of both numbers and sophistication...I have had the privilege of
seeing Zorn only twice...once in a trio with E# and Mick Harris [people
were leaving in groves as Zorn shouted, "I'M GOING TO MAKE YOU
SUFFERRRRR!"] and once with Masada in Santa Barbara...I have heard that he
plays here unannounced from time to time as well...

A friend and I are in the process of creating a series of music weekends in
Ventura beginning in November...we are going to start with the Alligator
Lounge--San Francisco connection to book musicians and eventually hope to
expand to getting artists from the East Coast as well...The first
performance will be a one night performance in November...I'll post details
as they become available...We have sponsored some stunning performances by
Vinnie Golia, Nels Cline, Bonnie Barnett and others in the rotunda of City
Hall which have been standing room only...

Rakete,
Sz

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rinnzekete bee bee nnz krr muu?
             -- Kurt Schwitters
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|

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Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 17:11:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ted Reichman <[e-mail]>
Subject: gigs at alt.coffee

just to clarify my earlier post about music at alt.coffee:

If you're looking to play a gig at alt.coffee, please keep in mind that
they ONLY have music there on Monday nights (except for extremely rare
exceptions which I am not involved with) and that it is completely booked
up through October, as indicated in the schedule I posted yesterday.

If you still want to try to book something for later in the fall or in
the winter, you can feel free to send me a tape.  I will not start
booking gigs for November-December until late September at the earliest:

Ted Reichman
c.o. alt.coffee
139 Avenue A (n.b. THIS is the correct address, not 137 as I wrote yesterday)
New York, NY 10009

I welcome any gig proposals you may have but please keep in mind that
since it's only a weekly series there aren't very many slots to fill.
There are already a lot of people trying to book a gig there who I have
to turn down, so please understand that, unfortunately, very few of the
people who contact me will get booked.  Also, due to the contraints of
the space and the people who live upstairs, extremely volume-oriented
groups can't perform there.

I sincerely appreciate your interest in the cafe, and I don't like having
to be a hardass (I know what it's like to hunt for gigs) but that's the
way it is, at least for the immediate future.

Again, thanks for your interest,

Ted R.

p.s. my apologies for clogging the list with this business-oriented
material...

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Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:38:34 -0500 (CDT)
From: Tom Benton <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: non-Knit NYC music venue

On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, Steve Smith wrote:

> > > 9/1   Cuong Vu
> > Jim Black, Curtis Hasselbring, Chris Speed, Stomu Takeishi, Cuong Vu
>
> Minus Haselbring, this band just released a nice disc on Songlines under
> Chris Speed's name, "Yeah, No."

Yes, true.  Very hip record.  However, I just have to jump in here and say
some about another new Songlines record whose creators were also on Ted's
list, way up at the top.  The record is 'No Boat' by guitarist Ben
Monder and vocalist Theo Bleckmann.  About half duo, half quartet with Jim
Black (drums), and Skuli Sverrison (elec bass).  Both Ben and Theo are
immensely textural and expressive on their respective instruments; the
album, to me at least, sort of runs together as one extended journey
through ballads, wordless improvisations, and a great deal of other
territory.  I kind of feel stupid that I've started this being that this
is sort of one of those magical records that I can't much about other than
"it's really cool, go buy it", but oh well.  Check it out for yourself.

> As for Matt, quoting here from Douglas Wolk in the Voice: "The
> vibraphone isn't commonly associated with spasmodic free-improv
> self-expression, either, but when Moran's short-fuse pauses ignite into
> four-malleted pyrotechnics, it's like hearing an angel have a seizure."

Speaking of Mr. Moran, I'll add that he has an excellent record
of his own out, with a sax/vibes/drums trio he leads called Larabok i.
Some really wonderful composing tempered by "spasmodic free improv".
I dig it.  You can probably find out more about this on a web page about
it, I'm not sure of the exact address, it's somewhere on his buddy Adam
Good's page at <www.tiac.net/users/goodadam>.

> And though HE'S not going to be the one to tell you this, our boy Ted's
> no slouch either.  You may have heard him squeezing off sparks on
> accordion alongside Anthony Braxton or David Krakauer by now.

Yep, and he writes pretty snappy liner notes to boot!  By the way Ted,
what's up with 'Metallurgy'?  Is this still happening?

- ---

All from me.  Resume rocking on with your bad selves...

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Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 21:13:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: Marc Lambert <[e-mail]>
Subject: Grand Guinore

Can anyone tell me something about Naked City's Grand Guigore (sp?)? I
just saw it in a used shop and am curious, tho' I have to admit that some
of the hairy NC doesn't do it for me that much. Thanks.

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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 00:20:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Newgarden <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: melvins

>>Another former player in the Melvins list of soldiers was King Buzzo's
>>then girlie-friend, known as Lorax.

>I may be misremembering, but I think I remember hearing that she was
>Shirley Temple Black's daughter.

This Melvins discussion is finally getting interesting...

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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 00:20:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Newgarden <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: melvins

>>Another former player in the Melvins list of soldiers was King Buzzo's
>>then girlie-friend, known as Lorax.

>I may be misremembering, but I think I remember hearing that she was
>Shirley Temple Black's daughter.

This Melvins discussion is finally getting interesting...

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Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:42:56 -0700
From: Jeff Spirer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Panthalassa/Dub Meltdown

At 08:45 AM 8/14/97 -0700, SUGAR in their vitamins? wrote:
>On Thu, 14 Aug 1997 [e-mail] wrote:
>
>> r.m.b.? rec.mmmm.bob? rec.muso.bastards? rec.music.bhangra?
>
>rec.music.bluenote

I'm not so sure Dan, I think it has been renamed rec.music.bozo.  This more
recent exchange on r.m.b. follows one last year in which it was claimed by
a supposed guitarist that he could teach any teenager to play like Sonny
Sharrock.  Unfortunately, my vows of r.m.b. abstinence were broken when I
noticed an exchange on Miles when perusing dejanews.




Jeff Spirer
Axiom/Material
http://www.hyperreal.org/axiom/

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Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:31:14 -0700
From: Jeff Spirer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Praxis CD

At 08:04 AM 8/14/97 -0400, Andy Marks wrote:
>
>> BTW: I found in a CD catalogue: Praxis "Metatron" Limited Edition.
>> Could someone tell me what is the difference between "normal" edition.
>
>The limited edition has fancy packaging. The front (and back , I think)
>are covered with rubber spikes.

Andy is, as always, quite correct on this.  This was from a series of
limited edition packages designed by NY artist Rockit, although they should
be just about impossible to find given the demise of Subharmonic, or at
least the termination of Bill Laswell's connection with Subharmonic.



Jeff Spirer
Axiom/Material
http://www.hyperreal.org/axiom/

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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 15:46:16 +0800
From: Jan-Wen Lu <[e-mail]>
Subject: Christian Marclay CD

I've heard there's a CD of Christian Marclay's early works relesed by
Atavistic Records this month. Is it available now? Hope someone can inform
me. Thanks.

- --
Jan-Wen Lu  E-Mail address: [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:17:01 -0400
From: max <[e-mail]>
Subject: Burt Bacharach

Does anyone know if Zorn was the executive producer for the new 2cd Burt
Bacharach tribute? Any thoughs on this disc?

Max

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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:37:15 -0400
From: "Andy Marks" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Burt Bacharach (Zorn Executive Producer)

> Does anyone know if Zorn was the executive producer for the new 2cd Burt
> Bacharach tribute? Any thoughs on this disc?

I think he might be executive producer for most, if
not all, Tzadik releases. I know I have seen this on several of my
Tzadik discs (I haven't actually checked them all to be sure). Anyway,
I have wondered what exactly an "executive producer" does. Is Zorn
actually involved with the recording of the material in some way, or
is this just sort of his stamp of approval? I have always assumed
it was the latter. Could someone set me straight here?

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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:53:55 -0400
From: "ALAN E. KAYSER" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Burt Bacharach

max wrote:

> Does anyone know if Zorn was the executive producer for the new 2cd
> Burt
> Bacharach tribute? Any thoughs on this disc?
>
> Max

John is listed as the executive producer on the BB collection, as he is
on all Tzadik releases.   He is also listed as EP on Avant releases,
though I'm not sure if this applies to all Avant.

Alan

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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 15:24:06 +0100 (BST)
From: "Alan M Gordon (MSc/NC)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Burt Bacharach

max wrote:

> Does anyone know if Zorn was the executive producer for the new 2cd
> Burt
> Bacharach tribute? Any thoughs on this disc?
>
> Max

The tribute is a really good compilation.  it achieves the aims of
paying tribute to bacharach's composition, while also having a lot of
inventiveness by the various contributors.  also, it is very faithful
to the spirit of bacharach, in that i keep finding myself walking
down the street, whistling the tunes, to the point of irritation!

I would say, definitely check it out.

alan

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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 10:56:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Yeah-shure, Nah...er...ve'-so'n" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: masada 4 & 1

> hey, am i the only guy who sees masada 4 in stores on a regular basis?
> and for $45 canadian and only three tunes, is it worth buying?
> also, i see all filmworks all the time. any news as to whether or not he
> will ever record more of the classic guide to strategy?

Ack! Don't do it.  Instead, spend only $15.00 american plus postage
etc... and buy it from the Downtown Music Gallery.  They have e-mail, so
you can send them orders, i'm almost kind of sure.  I don't know what
thier address is, but someone here would (hint).

- -jascha

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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 11:02:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Yeah-shure, Nah...er...ve'-so'n" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: non-Knit NYC music venue

And i was just in NYC for a spell and found out about...

The Cooler: free music monday nights. I saw Ikue Mori, Eyvind Kang and
someone else make a lot of noise for half an hour or so the first time i
went; William Hooker and co. chased me out of the building the second
monday (ouch, they play loud in there!).

Tuesday nights at some bar on 200 Orchard street, DJ Spooky spins crazy
stuff starting 10:30 or so.

- -jascha

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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:59:25 -0700
From: stickman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Who's on Drums?

Steve Smith Wrote:
BTW the next of these now semi-regular Zorn improv fests at the Knit
will be held on August 30 (and remember that Masada is back at the Knit
on September 25-28, and Joey Baron's new Down Home band with Bill
Frisell, Arthur Blythe and Ron Carter is now evidently confirmed for
October 15-16, with a record due around the same time on the Intuition
label).


Steve, Will Joey Baron be on drums for the Masada gigs?

And also, i've always found it strangely easy to find a parking spot
outside the knit. Is it legal to park on both sides of the street?

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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 11:16:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Yeah-shure, Nah...er...ve'-so'n" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Grand Guinore

> Can anyone tell me something about Naked City's Grand Guigore (sp?)? I
> just saw it in a used shop and am curious, tho' I have to admit that some
> of the hairy NC doesn't do it for me that much. Thanks.

It's called "Grand Guignol" and it's a schizophrenic album.  The first
piece is a 17 minute spooky, lurking bit of ambience with bursts of
noise.  Very rumbly, sub-woofers recomended.

The next few pieces are by composers such as Debussy, Scribin, Orlando de
Lassus, and others.  Very pretty.

The next thirty-nine or so pieces are the rest of "torture garden" (the
other few bits are on the guy-with-a-gun Naked City album on Elektra
Nonesuch) - speed-jazz-core-pop-culture-vomit miniatures guaranteed to
make you smile, if not howl with laughter (listen to "Speedfreaks"!)

- -jascha

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