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From: zorn-list-owner@xmission.com
To: zorn-list-digest@xmission.com
Subject: zorn-list Digest V2 #16
Reply-To: zorn-list@xmission.com
Errors-To: zorn-list-owner@xmission.com
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zorn-list Digest Monday, 7 October 1996 Volume 02 : Number 016
In this issue:
Re: new zorn releases
Re: Masada in SF / new Feel
christian m.
Re: christian m.
Re: Masada in SF
Re: Derek Bailey videos
Praxis!
Re: Praxis!
Buster Keaton/Bill Frisell: Stupid question time
bar kokhba
Keaton
Re: bar kokhba
Robert Previte
Denman Maroney shameless plug
Re: Buster Keaton/Bill Frisell: Stupid question time
masada tour
Re: bar kokhba
joey baron
Re: Buster Keaton/Bill Frisell: Stupid question time
Naked City history
PBS Zorn Special
More on PBS Special
[none]
Derek Bailey/Frith and O'Rourke
Mars & Ikue Mori: John Gavanti
Strickland's "Zorn on Zorn"
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From: Steve Smith <ssmith@kochint.com>
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 09:48:56 -0700
Subject: Re: new zorn releases
Yeah-shure, Nah...er...ve'-so'n wrote:
>
> Are any of these out yet?
>
> -masada 7
This is out in some places, or will be very soon. Sssssssssmokin'!
> -masada live in jerusalem
No word yet.
> -filmworks n, where n>3
Filmworks 5 & 6, both very very new and both featuring Zorn actually
playing, will be out in the US on November 19, probably around the same
time in Europe and elsewhere. Filmworks 3 & 4, supposedly already
available in Europe on some label, will be reissued by Tzadik in 1997,
as will Filmworks 1.
> I went to check Patrice's discography and was surprised to see it wasn't
> up to date (!). I think maybe i'm still getting an old version, as i
> find it hard to believe that it would neglect such recent releases as Bar
> Kokhba et al.
Patrice has been on vacation lately. I think the discography is more up
to date than the latest posted version... he indicated to the Zorn List
recently that it had reached 100 entries. Hey, let's cut him some
slack, he maintains many, many discographies (Zeena, Ikue, Tim Berne,
Marty Ehrlich, etc.) so he's bound to get behind now and then! :-)
> Are there going to be more Bar Kokhba's? The first set is too good to
> deserve a lonely existence on people's CD shelves.
No word, but could be...
------------------------------
From: Leon Lee/SYBASE <Leon.Lee@sybase.com>
Date: 3 Oct 96 10:20:49 EDT
Subject: Re: Masada in SF / new Feel
>From: basilar@cris.com (david m rothbaum)
>Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 07:10:01 -0700
Subject: masada in san fran
>does anyone know when they will play there again? and where too perhaps?
I think sometime in late November. There is a specific date on Clay Glad's
Concert Calendar (I think it's the 15th or 16th of November) -
http://kzsu.stanford.edu/~glad/gigs.html#news - but no venue to name.
- ------------------------------
>From: scott mclemore <sam@frontier.wilpaterson.edu>
>Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:36:40 -0400 (EDT)
>Subject: Re: feel
>Yeah, I like it. The track with the singer is a plus. How do you have it?
>You must have gotten it from them because it isn't officially released
>yet. They just got a promo box for the What is Jazz? Fest.
>Scott
>On Sat, 21 Sep 1996, h. davies wrote:
> hi - the new human feel cd (on songlines)is their best by far...
More information PLEASE! How about a track listing, line-up (singer?) and if
possible, a review? And above all, how do we get them to play in San Francisco?
Leon Lee
- ------------------------------
------------------------------
From: Kurt Gottschalk <kcg6@columbia.edu>
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:43:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: christian m.
can anyone provide me with or direct me to info on christian marclay?
discograpy, patrice? i seem to remember this coming up on the digest not
so long ago, but no longer have whatever came up.
also, if anyone has memories, theories or such regarding marclay, i would
be interested to hear (read) them. i'm writing a preview article for the
tribeca trib in anticipation of his november set at roulette. you can
email me privately if you so desire.
kurt
------------------------------
From: scott mclemore <sam@frontier.wilpaterson.edu>
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:34:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: christian m.
can you please tell me the date/time for this roulette show?
scott
------------------------------
From: cz125@freenet.carleton.ca (Michael J. OConnor)
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:27:46 -0400
Subject: Re: Masada in SF
>
>>From: basilar@cris.com (david m rothbaum)
>>Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 07:10:01 -0700
>Subject: masada in san fran
>
>>does anyone know when they will play there again? and where too perhaps?
>
>I think sometime in late November. There is a specific date on Clay Glad's
>Concert Calendar (I think it's the 15th or 16th of November) -
>http://kzsu.stanford.edu/~glad/gigs.html#news - but no venue to name.
>
>------------------------------
The show is on 11/15 at Maritime Hall.
- --
MJO Cotati,CA
www.wp.com/funandblindness
------------------------------
From: DMB5561719@aol.com
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:15:29 -0400
Subject: Re: Derek Bailey videos
In a message dated 96-10-02 23:37:37 EDT, Wlt4@aol.com writes:
> The new catalog from the Jazz Record Mart lists three Bailey videos:
"Company
> in Japan," "Mountain Stage" and "Will." They seem to be on Incus, at least
> the catalog number starts with "Inc" and are performance videos. Has
anybody
> seen these?
>
> Lang Thompson
Mountain Stage has DB and a male dancer improvising on a mountain stage
in Japan. Derek plays an Epiphone archtop acousticaly.
Will, I think that's the one with a tap dancer.
D a v i d B e a r d s l e y .. dmb5561719@aol.com
* .. * ... .* .... *...... .
* .. I M M P & B i i n k! m u s i c
http://www.xingnet.com/immp/welcome.htm
. .. . * .. . . .. . . . . .. .*..
J u x t a p o s i t i o n Ezine * . ..
http://www.xingnet.com/immp/jux/j_index.htm
. .. .*.. . .. . ..*. . .. . *. .
------------------------------
From: "Gary M. Gettier" <gmg@mtolympus.ari.net>
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:29:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Praxis!
Anyone know what is up with Praxis?
About a year ago I read the new lineup and was expecting a new
album.
What's the poop?
Seeya, gmg@ari.net
Gary
"Just remember... lie, cheat, steal... and listen to heavy metal music!"
- - The Devil (to Bart Simpson)
------------------------------
From: Jeff Spirer <jeffs@hyperreal.com>
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 16:16:29 -0700
Subject: Re: Praxis!
At 06:29 PM 10/3/96 -0400, Gary M. Gettier wrote:
>
>Anyone know what is up with Praxis?
>
>About a year ago I read the new lineup and was expecting a new
>album.
>
>What's the poop?
It was back in February that the new studio album was announced. Because
SubMeta stopped after four releases, it was never finished. It may be
finished someday.
In the meantime, there is a live CD from a few European performances in the
last six months that will be coming out sometime in the next six months.
Brain, who has always been the drummer for Praxis, is now the drummer for
Primus and I am not sure what role he will play with Praxis in the future.
No-one seems to know, as far as I can tell.
Jeff Spirer
http://www.hyperreal.com/axiom/
Axiom Records/Material Communications
------------------------------
From: Stickman <u1003756@warwick.net>
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 19:54:41 -0700
Subject: Buster Keaton/Bill Frisell: Stupid question time
STUPID QUESTION TIME:
First, I know nothing about Buster Keaton.
ummmm...I really enjoy Frisell's Buster Keaton CD's. Can anyone tell me
if Frisell intended the music to be played along with the films, and if
so, has he performed this music live with the films, and has anyone
tried to synch the CD's with the films, and are the films available on
video to try at home with the CD's?
------------------------------
From: "Yeah-shure, Nah...er...ve'-so'n" <jwnarves@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 22:30:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: bar kokhba
Okay, so 'bar kokhba' is now out of print, soon to be re-released with
some different (and, according to JZ, better) tracks? How many of the
tracks are getting re-done? Is there even going to *be* a replacement
bar kokhba?
And, by the way, a friend of mine told me who Bar Kokhba was: he was
regarded by the Jewish people about 2000 years ago or so as the mesiah.
He led the jews into the mountains to wage guerila warefare on the romans,
and had some measure of success for a while, but eventualy was defeated,
since the roman war machine was just too big. This may not be totally
correct, but it's the general idea. Fairly strong set of images which
John Zorn is applying to his music: "Masada", "Bar Kokhba"...
- -jascha
------------------------------
From: Rohan James Parkes <s_rohanp@eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU>
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 14:05:45 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Keaton
Stickman,
Funny you should ask! It's Buster Keaton's birthday today, by the way.
The video's are available in the states, according to one review I read in
Jazz Times,(and I'll have to take their word for it as I don't think they
are in Australia), and yes, you can play the cd along with the films and
they're supposed to match. I believe he has performed the soundtracks
live, too.
As a matter of interest, PBS-FM in Melbourne is presenting a two-hour
special on Frisell tomorrow, which will feature the Keaton albums.
We did one on Zorn a few months ago too.
Rohan Parkes
3 PBS-FM
Melbourne
Australia
------------------------------
From: richie@cst.com.au (Richie Teh)
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 14:17:35 +1000
Subject: Re: bar kokhba
>Okay, so 'bar kokhba' is now out of print, soon to be re-released with
>some different (and, according to JZ, better) tracks? How many of the
>tracks are getting re-done? Is there even going to *be* a replacement
>bar kokhba?
I was wondering about this too. Any inside-news from Steve Smith? (BTW,
Steve, do you also play the drums for Journey? ;-) )
Take care and God Bless!
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Richie Teh Email: richie@cst.com.au
Software Engineer URL: www.cst.com.au/~richie
Creative Software Technologies, Australia
win_DOH_s - Homer's OS
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
From: Rohan James Parkes <s_rohanp@eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU>
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 14:21:33 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Robert Previte
Dear Jascha,
Bobby Previte is one of a growing band of drummer composers, who work
convincingly in the more advanced areas of jazz, but who also have a
background in rock,(cf. Joey Barron, Edward Vesala.)
Some of his earlier work, such as Music for the Moscow Circus, is less
than compelling, but since his breakthrough with *Empty Suits* (on
Gramavision), he's been producing a string of powerful and innovative
albums. (Although I wouldn't recommend the follw-up *Slay the Suitors*,
which I thought was boring.)
A lot of Previte's best work is on the Enja label. I'd recommend
*Weather Clear, Track Fast*, and *Hue and Cry*, all featuring great
players like Don Byron, Marty Ehrlich, Anthony Cox, etc.
*Pushing the Envelope* on Gramavision and a new release on Koch are also
meant to be good, but I haven't heard them.
Hope this is helpful,
Rohan
------------------------------
From: denman@nyc.pipeline.com (Denman Maroney)
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 10:43:44 GMT
Subject: Denman Maroney shameless plug
"18th anniversary season
Roulette series of experimental & adventurous music
228 West Broadway @ White Street
Performance at 9pm, admission $8, resv/info (212) 219-8242
DENMAN MARONEY
Solo Piano, Inside and Out
Denman Maroney plays piano inside and out, exciting the innards with bars,
bowls, boxes, mallets, mashers and whatnot while simultaneously working the
keyboard to produce polytimbral, polytextural piano music. He plays
polytonally and polymetrically as well. The net effect is an aromatic,
parametric potpourri."
- --
I post this because (a) I want you to come and (b) it was omitted from the
Roulette calendar. If you're unfamiliar with my work and want to learn
about it, you can read my meagre web page at
http://pwp.usa.pipeline.com/~denman/. Thanks.
- --
Denman Maroney
------------------------------
From: denman@nyc.pipeline.com (Denman Maroney)
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 10:51:40 GMT
Subject: Re: Buster Keaton/Bill Frisell: Stupid question time
Yes, yes (at St. Ann's in Brooklyn), I haven't, and probably. When I
recorded "The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari" with Mark Dresser and Dave Douglas,
we made no attempt to sync up with the film. It was a record, so we made a
record. I suspect Frisell & co. did the same unless they made a CD-ROM.
On Oct 03, 1996 19:54:41, 'Stickman <u1003756@warwick.net>' wrote:
>STUPID QUESTION TIME:
>First, I know nothing about Buster Keaton.
>
>ummmm...I really enjoy Frisell's Buster Keaton CD's. Can anyone tell me if
>Frisell intended the music to be played along with the films, and if so,
has
>he performed this music live with the films, and has anyone tried to
synch the
>CD's with the films, and are the films available on video to try at home
with
>the CD's?
- --
Denman Maroney
------------------------------
From: mladd@Iquest.net (Mike Ladd)
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 07:36:50 -0600
Subject: masada tour
I recently heard some news regarding a masada tour which includes a stop at
Ohio State University. Just curious if this is true, any info would be
appreciated.
thanks
------------------------------
From: Steve Smith <ssmith@kochint.com>
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 10:20:03 -0700
Subject: Re: bar kokhba
Richie Teh wrote:
>
> >Okay, so 'bar kokhba' is now out of print, soon to be re-released with
> >some different (and, according to JZ, better) tracks? How many of the
> >tracks are getting re-done? Is there even going to *be* a replacement
> >bar kokhba?
> I was wondering about this too. Any inside-news from Steve Smith?
Actually, this is all news to me. I hadn't heard anything about Bar
Kokhba being deleted and was kinda wondering why everyone was reporting
how few were remaining and in which stores. I'll try to get an answer
on this, but if anyone else has definitive information (Patrice, are you
still in France?) feel free to jump in...
> (BTW,
> Steve, do you also play the drums for Journey? ;-) )
Only after I've had too much garlic on my pizza right before bedtime...
Steve
------------------------------
From: "Yeah-shure, Nah...er...ve'-so'n" <jwnarves@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 11:58:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: joey baron
How does the album 'raised pleasure dot' compare with other albums by joey
baron? I borrowed this one a while ago and was, to my utter astonishment,
quite underwhealmed by it. After hearing his playing on the Masada discs,
and seeing him live in a couple of Masada shows, i was sure that his solo
stuff would reduce me to a small pile of ash, happily smoking away.
- -jascha
ohyeah: i really need to find out if Masada are playing anywhere in
europe at all. Can anyone help me out on this?
thanks.
------------------------------
From: Stickman <u1003756@warwick.net>
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 18:25:14 -0700
Subject: Re: Buster Keaton/Bill Frisell: Stupid question time
James Hale wrote:
>
>. Bill fired Kermit immediately afterward.
WHY???
------------------------------
From: Olivier Nguyen Van Tan <onvt@MicroNet.fr>
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:59:48 +0100
Subject: Naked City history
Can anyone make me a little speech about the Naked City History...
I just know how they start at the Knitting factory ( I read it in the book of the KF)
and I am a bit ignorant about the rest...
Thanks by advance
Olivier
------------------------------
From: Rohan James Parkes <s_rohanp@eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU>
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 16:14:04 +1000 (EST)
Subject: PBS Zorn Special
David,
Sadly, there are no tapes of this special. (In future, I should see about
doing this.)
I may represent it some time in the future, however.
Rohan
------------------------------
From: Rohan James Parkes <s_rohanp@eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU>
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 16:19:50 +1000 (EST)
Subject: More on PBS Special
David
One more thing!
It was a radio special, not tv!
I find this is confusing a lot of people in the States. The PBS I'm
referring to is a radio station. It should not be confused with the
American PBS.
Rohan.
------------------------------
From: Jason Caulfield Bivins <jbivins@indiana.edu>
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 08:50:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [none]
I'd just like to mention that I picked up Bobby Previte's new album "Too
Close to the Pole" last week and it's great. All that you'd expect from a
Previte band - dense, driving polyrhythms; punchy horn lines; nice
compositional development. Most of the players are familiar to me, but I
hadn't heard of trumpeter Cuong Vu before. On this evidence, he's very
good (with a Dave Douglas-like sense of formalism and huge harmonic
chops). Laster and D'Angelo also play great, and you can hear Lindsey
Horner quoting from old Zappa basslines. What fun. Be sure to hang
around, too, for the unlisted track 7.
Jason Bivins
------------------------------
From: Torsten Nielsen <zoopsi@inet.uni-c.dk>
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 20:25:30 +0200 (METDST)
Subject: Derek Bailey/Frith and O'Rourke
Where can I get the Derek Bailey jungle techno cd? I havn't seen it anywhere.
Did Zorn produce and what was the title?
Has Fred Frith and Jim O'Rourke ever played together?
------------------------------
From: Matthew C Weiner <mcwst5+@pitt.edu>
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 18:55:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Mars & Ikue Mori: John Gavanti
I just got this album, which somehow has the reputation of being
the most unlistenable album of all time--great, great stuff.
Anyway, there are a lot more instruments than people playing,
which means that either a) they overdubbed, which seems odd
for a no wave album from about '80, especially as it might seem
to take more technical proficiency than these folks had,
or b) they had more people on the album. The listed personnel
are:
Sumner Crane: vocal, guitar, piano, percussion
Don Burg: Bass clarinet, vocal on one track
Mark Cunningham: Horns
Ikue Mori: Strings, percussion on two tracks
Arlindo & Dantas Lins: percussion on one track (one that Mori
is credited with percussion on)
There are often more than one brass instrument (one's always
a trombone, I think), and sometimes strings, percussion, and
piano or guitar at the same time. I think; instrumentation
isn't easiest to decipher. Does anyone know whether this was
overdubbed or had more players, and if so who?
(Burg is clearly a woman and no doubt the China Burg who
plays guitar and vocal for Mars. Crane was Mars's other
guitarist/vocalist; Cunningham, who produced John Gavanti,
the bassist. Any info about the future fate of these
geniuses whose commercial appeal was sabotaged by inaccurate
press would also be welcome.)
Matt
------------------------------
From: Rick Lopez <bb10k@erie.net>
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 23:28:55 -0300
Subject: Strickland's "Zorn on Zorn"
Anyone know how I can find this?
Saw it a long time ago on some aol branch, or something. Have searched
and searched to no avail.
Help me somebodyè
thanks-RL
------------------------------
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