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From: "Franz Gall" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Eccentrix for DM 29,99
Date: 01 Feb 1999 08:48:14 +0100


Hi,
Mark Pulley <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Question (to anyone): the cheapest copy of Eccentrix I've found so =3D
>far is DM34.99 (c. US$21, A$33) (at Hit Stop). Are there any cheaper =3D
>copies floating around other CD shops that I haven't come across yet? =3D

bought Eccentrix last week for DM 29,99 at Pro Markt Gr=E4felfing, German=
y.
Cheers
Franz




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Subject: (yello) Homepage
Date: 01 Feb 1999 09:01:42 +0000


One of the advantages of the design of the Website (over the
previous one -  space.net) is that the individual pages can be
updated easily, i.e. New Output  - NewsChannel etc.

At least the news page could have been updated when the
release date for the remix album was known!

James





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From: "Franz Gall" <[e-mail]>
Date: 01 Feb 1999 10:28:07 +0100


Hi Georg,
you wrote:
>As I can tell you, the Yello-watches were never sold seperately. So I thi=
>nk you

These Yello Re-Watches are available at OBI all over Germany for around DM
100 (can't remember the exact price), separately. And I expect to drop the
price soon, because they seem to sell not very well. The price is to high
and the standard OBI customer has never heard of Yello. I will keep an eye
on that.
Regards
Franz




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From: Nathan Lloyd <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (yello) Yello Homepage
Date: 01 Feb 1999 9:43:33 +0000


I agree entirely=2E  Surely they should have put Eccentrix information on =20=
=20
there, even if us poor suckers in the UK can't get our hands on a copy=2E =20=
=20
 I would be interested to hear if anyone here in the UK has managed to  =20
acquire a copy, or, if like me they are extremely bemused as to why it  =20
hasn't been released here=2E

I would have thought that Yello had a big enough fanbase in the GB for  =20
their record company to release Eccentrix=2E  Does anyone know the reason =20=
=20
why it wasn't?  All I get from their management company was that it  =20
wouldn't be released here but no reason as to why=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E

Anyway back to the original point, which is update that damn  =20
web-page=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E

Nat


 I say ,
Move ,dance ,update your web page :-)

Daniel Svensson wrote:
>
> It=B4s quite scandalous that nothing has changed on the homepage for  =20
almost 2
> years now=2E Dieter who is an artistic person should have some kind of
> interest in keeping it updated=2E
>


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From: David John <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Remix album
Date: 01 Feb 1999 12:11:38 +0100


Hello!


Wouw! This 'new' version of On Track on Eccentrix is a damn great track.
Exellentrix!
I've tried to figure the lyrics with the help of Marks current transcripts
and here's what I''m hearing:

At 13:14 26-01-99 , Mark Pulley wrote:
>Boy it's (suffer(?)) got to ask me got to see it wasn't me

(?) you got to ask, you got to see what does it mean

>Blast off(?) for the shotdown New York to Chicago midnight special, leaving
>from Central on platform 9
>First class seating at the front of the train, passengers __________ waiting
>for the sleep pods (?) __ check in immediately

Last call for the (drift down?) New York to Chicago midnight special
leaving Grand Central on  platform nine. First class seating at the front
of the train. Passengers for confirmation of their sleeping carts (cards?)
should check in immediately

>Anyone improve on those?

Improvements...? I don't know. At least that's what I'm hearing :-)

At 13:53 25-01-99 , Oleg Skrynnik wrote:
>Also, I have a question. What are the words in 'On Track'?
>"Night train, _, vain, wheels, journey, station unknown".

I think the words are:

Night train, right way, wheels, journey, station unknown.


No More Words

David John
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From: "Franz Gall" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Eccentric for DM 27,95
Date: 01 Feb 1999 14:02:19 +0100


Hi,
found another low price for Eccentric today: Saturn Hansa at Munich
Neuperlach Einkaufszentrum (PEP) sells them for DM 27,95, VAT included,
which is app. US$  15,52. Any ideas, why this is so low?
Franz




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From: "Oleg Skrynnik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Re: On Track remix lyrics
Date: 29 Jan 1999 09:33:37 +0300


>>Also, I have a question. What are the words in 'On Track'?
>>"Night train, _, vain, wheels, journey, station unknown".
>
>These are the lyrics I have worked out so far (from PU) - complete =
>with guesses which look rather incorrect :-(  :
>
>Life is a ride, like days in a train
[skipped]

No, no! I'm talking about the remix. There are only 8 words in this remix,
which are:

Night
train,
love OR life OR light OR flight OR ...,
vain,
wheels,
journey,
station,
unknown.

What is the third word?

Best wishes,
Oleg.




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From:    Juhana Sadeharju <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Topaz
Date: 01 Feb 1999 18:34:33 +0200


Note that at least in the beginning of the Topaz there are
sounds from Yello's soundstation on their web site.

Some sounds are "hidden" in their site and you may download sounds
from "ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/culture/music/western/Yello/samples/
yellosoundstation.tar.gz".

Does any of you know how to download the program code for the
soundstation? How to get it work in my home computer without
network access. How about source code such that I may put those
missing sounds to it?

I could write a simple clone program for Linux/GTK -- interested?
Though, I wait until we have our complete wave editor/mixer software
ready so that the result will not be *that* limited that it is now
with the soundstation.

BTW, please upload "More" remix if possible. I heard about it months
ago and just can't wait when the record company realizes people (a person)
here (in Finland, by the way) too wants the CD.

Yours,

Juhana


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From: Kjetil Aakra <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Eccentrix
Date: 01 Feb 1999 18:19:31 +0000


Hi all!

Bought the album today. A bit expensive here in Bergen, Norway (but what
isn't) at 180 NOKs, but if you are a Yello fan you have to buy it!! :)

I haven't heard through all tunes 20 times yet, but it is great. The Race
and More is fabulous. And She's Got a Gun. And Rubberbandman and Topaz.
Well, all tracks are great actually.

No news of a studio album according to the record store, though.

"Give me more!"

Kjetil



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From: Matthias Egerland <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Eccentrix for DM 29,99
Date: 02 Feb 1999 00:08:20 +0100


Am 01-Feb-99 bug Franz Gall an einer Workstation und folgendes kam dabei
heraus:


>Hi,
>Mark Pulley <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>Question (to anyone): the cheapest copy of Eccentrix I've found so =3D
>>far is DM34.99 (c. US$21, A$33) (at Hit Stop). Are there any cheaper =3D=

>>copies floating around other CD shops that I haven't come across yet? =3D=


>bought Eccentrix last week for DM 29,99 at Pro Markt Gr=E4felfing, Germa=
ny.
>Cheers
>Franz

It is sold for 24.99 DM at MediaMarkt / Germany since yesterday, but I th=
ink
Mark's mail was about online-shops.

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From: Georg Plank <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Re:Yello-watches
Date: 02 Feb 1999 00:26:50 +0100




Franz Gall wrote:

> Hi Georg,
> you wrote:
> >As I can tell you, the Yello-watches were never sold seperately. So I thi=
> >nk you
>
> These Yello Re-Watches are available at OBI all over Germany for around DM
> 100 (can't remember the exact price), separately. And I expect to drop the
> price soon, because they seem to sell not very well. The price is to high
> and the standard OBI customer has never heard of Yello. I will keep an eye
> on that.
> Regards
> Franz
>

Hi again !

Those watches sold at OBI are the "Re-Watches" and not the older "Crash
-Watches".
Both were ideas (mainly the same idea) by Dieter Meier. There was only one
YELLO
Crash - Watch available.  It has been sold together with the Zebra CD in a
metal-box
(limited edition 6000pcs.).

As Sheldon Stern has found out, there is another Yello watch available now.
But this watch is from the newer "Re-watch" generation.
You can find it at:

http://www.rewatch.com/main2.html

(great thanks to Sheldon for the link !!!!)

Maybe you can find this watch at OBI

Yours,
G E O R  G






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From: Sheldon Stern <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) trade
Date: 01 Feb 1999 23:41:46 -0800


tied up-uk-YELCD2   872 397-2   is  up for grabs.trades are welcomed



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From: "Oleg Skrynnik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Vicious Games remix
Date: 01 Feb 1999 11:01:56 +0300


>Yesterday I heard Vicious Games remix on Russian radio station.I suppose
>that it was Eccentrix remix. I can say that this remix differs a lot from
>the original version. It was more dance oriented cool mix. If all the mixes
>from Eccentrix are the same, this album is great!

Sorry for dissappointing you, but no, this is not the remix from
'Eccentrix'. I was dissappointed too, but... 'Eccentrix' is a good album. Do
not expect dance kind of thing and you will love it.

The only dance-oriented remix is 'On Track'.

Best wishes,
Oleg.





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) On-Line Store
Date: 02 Feb 1999 11:23:49 +0000


Hi,
     Does anyone know of an On-Line (European) store that : -

a) has the new album in stock
b) can deliver next day/two days.

I've reserved a copy with Esprit - two weeks ago, but they won't be
recieving a
new batch until the end of the week - there's no gaurantee the album will
be
in that batch.

 I'd rather have two copies and get the album sooner.

Regards,

James




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (yello) On-Line Store
Date: 02 Feb 1999 12:30:20 EST


In a message dated 02/02/99, 05:28:22, [e-mail] writes:
<<Hi,
     Does anyone know of an On-Line (European) store that : -

a) has the new album in stock
b) can deliver next day/two days.>>

I discovered a site - www.frontstage.com - that has the album listed. It's
quite an elaborate site, not unlike say cdnow, so they may well provide an
express delivery service, but I didn't look into it this far. The cost
including p&p would work out at about =A315 which is cheaper than Esprit f=
rom
whom, I've got it on order as well.

Andrew Wales
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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Vialle_Gr=E9gory?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Uploading
Date: 02 Feb 1999 18:47:38 +0100


I would like to know how to upload something on the server
http://yello.ml.org/ !



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) Pocket Universe
Date: 02 Feb 1999 14:21:39 EST


Hey there Yello-bes (Yellow Bees?, huh, what?)

Can't seem to find Pocket Universe for the life of me here in Seattle. I've
checked all my regular import shops and a number of new ones, and no one seems
to even heard about it, let alone have it. I can find stuff that likely came
from other planets, but not this. Anybody seen it?

Corbett


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From: "Gene Tsygan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Uploading
Date: 02 Feb 1999 15:13:07 -0500


You can upload only to Incoming directory. If there is a problem with http,
try ftp://yello.ml.org/incoming

Gene

>I would like to know how to upload something on the server
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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Vialle_Gr=E9gory?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Unbelievable Remixes
Date: 03 Feb 1999 02:51:02 +0100


Anyone has remixes of UNBELIEVABLE ??? Please e-mail me at : [e-mail]
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From: Matthias Egerland <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Yello and cigars?
Date: 03 Feb 1999 14:57:53 +0100


Hi Yello-Fans!

In the "Re-Watch" commercial at "Obi" there is a short introduction of
Dieter Meier and there is stated that he is a "cigar connaisseur". In
the sleeve of "The new mix in one go"-cover you can see Boris with a
large cigar, too.
Does anybody know, if Yello are real cigar "afficionados" and if so,
what kind of cigars they like most?

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) Cigars
Date: 03 Feb 1999 14:05:30 +0000


>>Does anybody know, if Yello are real cigar "afficionados" and if so,
what kind of cigars they like most?

Yes, I think they're keen on the 'Clinton' brand.

Regards,

James




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From: Matthias Egerland <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Yello - ReWATCH
Date: 03 Feb 1999 18:23:04 +0100


Hi Yello-Fans!

I clicked a bit on the Re-Watch-Homepage and found some URLs you might
be interested in.

If you want to download small QT-Files of the Re-Watch-commercial, a
music-track of a watch/cd-special-edition-box (maybe with Dieter's voice
-  the sound quality is a bit poor) and a clip of the presentation of
"Re-Watch" in New York, go to the following URLs:

http://194.209.156.18/rewatch/Filme/commercial.mov
http://194.209.156.18/rewatch/Filme/ISO.mov
http://194.209.156.18/rewatch/Filme/NYC_HI.MOV

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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Vialle_Gr=E9gory?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Unbelievable ???
Date: 04 Feb 1999 11:14:25 +0100


I done a mp3 of a possible UNBELIEVABLE mix, could anyone help me about that
? I'll send it if you write me back to [e-mail]





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From: Dmitry Stillermann <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Eccentrix & CD stores in Schweiz
Date: 05 Feb 1999 09:44:29 +0100


Hi Yellers!

Many thanks for your answers concerning CD stores in Switzerland. Well, now
I'm here. And I've actually found that "Eccentrix" is really everywhere, even
in stores I usually consider as "bad". I'm now at Solothurn and I've bought
my copy for SFr 27.90. The promotion for the album seems to be really strong,
at least it is in the local "VoxBox" and other shops. That's it. Well, by the
way I should say that I still don't like most of the stuff, except
"Rubberbandman" and "She's got a gun", but I've got plenty of time to listen
again and, probably, recognize some hidden beauty.

SY, Dmitry

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From: Marcolphus <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Discographies
Date: 05 Feb 1999 15:59:47 +0100


Hey, everyone, help me out with my discographies center!! Don't you have
bookmarked good discogs of ANY band's??? I couldn't believe it...

But if you have send it to me!! I'll be glad to put them on my page!!
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From: "Daniel Svensson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Eccentrix
Date: 05 Feb 1999 16:45:23 +0100


Hi!

I need all the info about Eccentrix. What is the number on the  record. What
record company?

Daniel



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From: Rogelio Cavazosjr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) ~~~YELLO~~~
Date: 05 Feb 1999 14:18:03 -0800 (PST)


         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~YELLO~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~In search of any YELLO VIDEO NTSC!!!~~~

~~~Please let me know~~~if you have any for sale~~~

~~~Please let me know~~~where I can buy them~~~

~~~Thank You~~~
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From: "Serge Popov" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) yello.ml.org
Date: 07 Feb 1999 10:11:12 +0200


Hi

For the last few days I was unable to connect to the
site yello.ml.org and then found out the the company
providing that free domain "Monolith Internet Services"
is shutting down. Does anybody knows a real host
name or IP address of the former yello.ml.org server?

Best regards,
Serge Popov.
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Kharkiv, Ukraine
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From: "Gennadiy Tsygan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) yello.ml.org
Date: 08 Feb 1999 08:24:22 -0500


Yello.ml.org address died with Monolith. (Doesn't this name ring a bell?)
The new addresses are below:
http://yello.maxima.org
ftp://yello.maxima.org

Enjoy!

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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Vialle_Gr=E9gory?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Unbelievable mix ???
Date: 09 Feb 1999 00:10:05 +0100


If someone has the complete song of the sample I just put on the ftp site
(UNBELIEVABLE.mp3) please msg me ! Thanx.

Enjoy 'The Race' [Brake Light Mix] too !



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) More (Rockabilly Mix)
Date: 09 Feb 1999 08:54:06 +0000


Does the More (Rockabilly Mix) exist on the new FTP site?

Regards,

James




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From:    Juhana Sadeharju <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) More (Rockabilly Mix)
Date: 09 Feb 1999 13:19:53 +0200


>From:    [e-mail]
>
>Does the More (Rockabilly Mix) exist on the new FTP site?

I hope so. I gave up in waiting the Eccentrix. mp3 will do fine.

Yours,

Juhana


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From: Marko Patsikka <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) More (Rockabilly Mix)
Date: 09 Feb 1999 13:59:11 +0200


Juhana Sadeharju wrote:
>
> >From:  [e-mail]
> >
> >Does the More (Rockabilly Mix) exist on the new FTP site?
>
> I hope so. I gave up in waiting the Eccentrix. mp3 will do fine.

Good news to all Finnish Yello fans.

Juhana, maybe You don't have to wait mp3 file just because Eccentix is
one of this week new records in Finlad.

I was talked with  Kane (www.kane.fi    ---  Kane records, Turku
Finland) few minutes ago and he promised that I will get my copy at leat
friday. He promised put record for sale in their www-site too.

BTW Mr. Kane can order quite rare stuff too, actually I order almost all
Carlos Peron (Rare in Finland) CD's few days ago, It will take month or
two before I get them. Long time because he collect lot of stuff before
he buy records in.
(those Carlos records are not listed on www-site. If want to buy some
have to talk with Kane him self, not with any employeers)

And I saw that after few weeks there will be out new Carlos Peron
record.

-Makke-
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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Vialle_Gr=E9gory?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) More
Date: 09 Feb 1999 12:55:53 +0100


Yello - More [1998 - Rockabilly Mix].mp3 available !

160 kbps - High Quality



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From: Sheldon Stern <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) REMIXS
Date: 09 Feb 1999 04:23:55 -0800


WOW!!!!!!!, I just had the pleasure of listening to the topaz insect
mix, and the new Brakelight mix. Just when you thought you they had done
all that could be done with the race, Boris pulls the best version ever
recorded out of the hat. Don't be surprised to here some of these cool
new beats and sounds on their forthcomming new album.

YELLO-The Ultimate Hero of Low Frequency!!

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From: Cliff Tuel <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) U.S. source for Eccentrix
Date: 09 Feb 1999 10:22:32 -0800


Time for me to de-lurk.  Some of you old-timers might remember me from the
early days of this mailing list...  Hi Juhana, Lazlo, Fred...

The good folks at EAR/Rational Music in Colorado are taking orders for
Eccentrix.  Mail [e-mail], with the subject ORDER, and in the
message body put:

[509262:m] Yello - Eccentrix

Price is US $29 plus shipping, but I was told if 5+ people order it this week,
shipping will be free.  (For overseas shipping, they'll remove the jewel case
to get the free shipping deal.)

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From: Cliff Tuel <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) EAR/Rational URL
Date: 09 Feb 1999 10:27:13 -0800


Ooops, forgot to give EAR/Rational's URL:  http://www.xmission.com/~ear.  They
probably don't have Eccentrix listed yet; it just showed up on their
distributor list this morning.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) Re-New member
Date: 09 Feb 1999 22:53:40 +0000


Well I come back on the list so it's a bit like Re-New member
(Re-watch :P )
I was last on when pocket universe came out.
And today I just ordered the Eccentrix mixes on CD , And can't
wait to listen to it..
I have heard topaz already and it has a very Yello sound (very James
Bond)  I also watched some of the quick-time movies courtesy of the
yello zone... for the first time today and its the first time I have
seen any yello video's,  I loved the Of course I'm lying one, it's a
beautiful video..
I see in recent posts there has been talk of a ftp site??
Is this still up and working ??
If so could someone give me the address please :) , thanks in
advance..

P.S. Are there any Yello fans from the UK , like me :) if so I would
love to chat,  Is there a Yello chat forum?? or IRC channel??


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) Pocket Universe deleted???
Date: 10 Feb 1999 09:41:37 GMT


Hey people, Anyone know where I can get a copy of Pocket Universe??

After 3 months my record store tells me it's been deleted?? & www.cduniverse.com
seems to be in the same boat

anyone got any ideas when I could get my hands on a copy??


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From:    Juhana Sadeharju <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) U.S. source for Eccentrix
Date: 10 Feb 1999 16:57:37 +0200


>From:    Cliff Tuel <[e-mail]>
>
>Time for me to de-lurk.  Some of you old-timers might remember me from the
>early days of this mailing list...  Hi Juhana, Lazlo, Fred...

Yep, sure! And what a pleasant surprise to hear about you!

Ok, I downloaded Topaz, More and Race remixes as mp3 files.
Of the three, the Race remix is best, then More. Unfortunately
the Race mp3 was not working well with my player (some strange
audiofile header at the beginning?). So, waiting to get the CD.

The sounds are wonderful. Very deep bass sounds -- I wonder how they are
done. Then there is this new vocal effect used since Zebra -- hear
second song from PU if you don't have the new remix CD. This reminds
me that SoundBlaster Live has a neat vocal effect: playing string sounds
from audiofile gives a vocal sounds. Also, the new remixes has many
3D effects. One neat sound in More is a very high pitched rhythm sound
which moves around your head (or just between left and right). The Race
has a car coming from right and going to left (with Doppler effect).
I remember reading that Boris was going to buy a spatializer and it now
sounds like he has one.

Yours,

Juhana


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (yello) U.S. source for Eccentrix
Date: 10 Feb 1999 11:45:55 EST


In a message dated 2/10/99 10:01:45 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> This reminds
>  me that SoundBlaster Live has a neat vocal effect


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) yello
Date: 10 Feb 1999 11:46:48 EST


In a message dated 2/10/99 10:01:45 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> This reminds
>  me that SoundBlaster Live has a neat vocal effect
Boris would not have a Wintel he's got a Macintosh :)
The new mixes are incredible and jaw dropping recording. I also think it might
of been remastered for the older tracks.

Yello rules.

Julian


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From: "Vsevolod Starikov" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) ECCENTRIX Remixes CD
Date: 12 Mar 1999 22:16:36 +0300


YELLO: ECCENTRIX Remixes. Exclusive russian only release.
The new Yello album entitled ECCENTRIX REMIXES, released by PolyGram Russia and is for distribution in Russia Only just became available! Front insert has
hologram sticker of PolyGram with serial #682792, hologram shows the white bear & PolyGram logo. Also on
the fron insert written in Russian: "This CD is for distribution exclusively in Russia". On the back side of the insert written in russian: "The album is designed for the Yello's
fans and for the dance music lovers. Yello - one of the most outstanding bands of our era - have released the album of remixes to get fans ready for the new album. Band
members
Dieter Maier and Boris Blank collected the best mixes of the Yello on the Eccentrix album. Rare tracks, plus two exclusive remixes, a few completely unreleased tracks
make this album unforgetable journey to the Yello Universe." Tracks are:

    1. The Race  (Brake Light Mix) 5.50
    2. How How  (Papa Who Ma Mix) 5.51
    3. More  (Rockabilly Mix) 6.14
    4. Do It (Marky P. & Teri B. Dub) 7.46
    5. Topaz  (Insect Mix) 3.36
    6. How How  (In Silence Mix) 4.32
    7. On Track  (Doug Laurent's first journey) 7.31
    8. Vicious Games  (B.Blank/O.Wolschlaeger Mix) 6.34
    9. Rubberbandman  (Rubber Mix) 6.02
    10. She's Got A Gun  (Live at the Palladium NY) 4.08
    11. To The Sea  (TSWL Mix) 4.48

If you're interested in obtaining a copy please visit: http://www.ebay.com/ - and search for "yello". Write for details to [e-mail]




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From: "The SunSinner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Eccentrix in The Netherlands.
Date: 11 Feb 1999 04:59:29 +0100


Hoi!

Just called some of my local record stores.
The Dutch release date of Eccentrix is not known yet I was told,
but I was also assured it would be released overhere.

For now it'll cost about 55 guilders (which is about 25 euro if I'm not
misstaking) for import (normal price (at my cheapest shop) would
be 35 guilders (more or less 16 euro) with any luck).

So I guess we need to be patient overhere... :o(

Groeven,
Olaf.



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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Vialle_Gr=E9gory?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Vicious Games
Date: 10 Feb 1999 22:18:46 +0100


Yello - Vicious Games [1998 - B. Blank & O. Wollschl=E4ger Mix].mp3 avail=
able
!

160 kbps - High Quality



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From: marcolphus <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Discographies Center on my page
Date: 10 Feb 1999 21:03:53 +0100


Hey everyone!!!
Once again I would like to invite you on my page, which contains links
to many discographies on the web. Tell me what do you think and add
something more!!!

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From: "Jonas Warstad" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Yello News List
Date: 10 Feb 1999 22:46:17 +0100


Hi all!

As I mentioned earlier, my "alternative" mailing list which I started =
two months ago
might be "reduced" to a pure news list, and this has now happened.

This means there is one mailing list (this list) and one news list, =
separate from each other.

Note: I will only send news to my News List, not to this mailing list, =
so I suggest
you join my list in any case. The reason for this is that I want as many =
people
as possible on my news list - this will be a "Yello fans power factor" =
later on. Together
we will be able to affect and suggest things, and believe me I have =
plans.....

To join, go to http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/yello-news

Welcome

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) got mine!
Date: 10 Feb 1999 19:34:52 EST


I received the enw CD today thanks to Franz.

So far on track 4 <listening>

Always excited about a new Yello release. The "rockabilly mix" sounded like
"the papa was a rolling stone mix" may have been more appropriate.

As for the one with "james Bond" overtones...sounded like some "Get Smart" in
there too.

Later,
Fred


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (yello) ECCENTRIX Remixes CD
Date: 11 Feb 1999 00:23:07 EST


In a message dated 2/10/99 11:47:39 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< search for "yello". Write for details to [e-mail]
  >>
Hint: in your search include"NOT Mello NOT Bole"  and 80 % of the sludge
disappears.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) Homebase updated...
Date: 11 Feb 1999 08:53:37 +0100


Hi all!

Since I haven't been on the homebase for some time, I was quite happy to see
that it was updated. Check New Output, and you will find comments on every
PU track and info on Eccentrix. Also a minor update about Eccentrix has been
done on NewsChannel.

Kindest Regards

Eric


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From: Antti Koivum{ki <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) New Member!
Date: 11 Feb 1999 10:38:44 +0200 (EET)


Hey.

I'm a Yello fan from Finland. No surprise there. Glad to be on the list!

Fellow Finns: Can we get Eccentrix Remixes anywhere in Finland yet?

 [writing dead.letter][antti koivumaki <[e-mail]>]   - oh yeah -
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From: "Jonas Warstad" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Reply to "critique"
Date: 12 Feb 1999 00:11:00 +0100


I don't know who sent this "critique" and there's something very strange
about it. Two different email addresses were used:

Giorgio Giovanni <[e-mail]>
Georg Plank <[e-mail]>

and it's not Georg Plank's usual style, even though his name is used in =
the end.

The person who wrote it is either simply stupid, or is trying to make me =
look stupid.
You already made a fool out of yourself by sending this email, but I =
guess I'm forced=20
to reply. The disadvantage with a mailing list is that anyone can =
basically write crap
about anyone and get away with it.

>Do you really think, that a Yello newsgroup will affect any decision =
made by record
>companies. Not even Boris & Dieter or Peter V. have enough power to =
make
>the releases they wish. Take f.e. the "Eccentrics" album. They need to =
release something
>to fulfill the treatment with the company.

1. It's not a newsgroup - study your definitions.
2. Yes I know we can make a difference - I hate pessimists who tell =
others what
    can be done and what can't be done.
3. Who do you think compiled Eccentrix? I already told this mailing =
list.
4. Who do you think compiled every single Yello album so far? Yello!

>Why do you really want to get so many people on your list ?

I already told you all why. I don't like it when someone insinuates that =
I have other purposes than I say.
Isn't it natural to gather as many people as possible when you want to =
affect something????
I'm sorry but I can't understand what you mean. And honestly I don't =
want to hear it.

>Do you need that for your sponsors ?

What sponsors?????

>It is your business where you  spread your Yello-news,

My what????

>but I know that you are not the only source for information.
>Remember: You did not give us the info about the exact track list for  =
"eccentrix"
>So someone else did it


I really don't want to start a "who was first" fight, but we all know =
that I sent the
exact track list to this list on January 12th (check the archives). =
There were rumours
before that, with (incorrect/incomplete) track listings. I knew the =
exact track listing
long before this, in fact I wrote a text for a promotional sheet for the =
Eccentrix CD
already on the 12th of October 1998!! But I wasn't allowed to say =
anything, simply
because the record company wasn't 100% sure when or even if they would =
release it.
And we're back on square one again (to form a news list to show Yello =
that we are
many fans and they can sell to us directly). I'm sorry "Giorgio" but you =
are really
barking up the wrong tree here. It's OK if someone asks questions, but =
not as if he
already knew all the answers - almost like being interviewed by a =
reporter who already
has his "nasty story" ready for printing before he asks you his =
questions. If you "Giorgio"
have any more "questions", please ask them in a more unbiased way and =
I'll be happy
to answer them.

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From: "giorgio.giovanni" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Yello News List
Date: 11 Feb 1999 23:04:51 +0100


Jonas Warstad wrote:

> ... I will only send news to my News List, not to this mailing list, so I suggest
> you join my list in any case. The reason for this is that I want as many people
> as possible on my news list - this will be a "Yello fans power factor" later on. Together
> we will be able to affect and suggest things, and believe me I have plans.....

Sorry Jonas, but that sounds like "the mad professor takes over to rule the world!"
Do you really think, that a Yello newsgroup will affect any decision made by record
companies. Not even Boris & Dieter or Peter V. have enough power to make
the releases they wish. Take f.e. the "Eccentrics" album. They need to release something
to fulfill the treatment with the company.

Why do you really want to get so many people on your list ?
Do you need that for your sponsors ?

It is your business where you  spread your Yello-news,
but I know that you are not the only source for information.

Remember: You did not give us the info about the exact track list for  "eccentrix"
So someone else did it

Sorry, but that is the law of the internet
- no borders, but the freedom to say what you want

Yours,
G E O R G








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From: "Per-Stian Vatne" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Yello News List
Date: 12 Feb 1999 17:15:38 -0000


> Note: I will only send news to my News List, not to this mailing list, =
so I suggest
> you join my list in any case. The reason for this is that I want as =
many people
> as possible on my news list - this will be a "Yello fans power factor" =
later on. Together
> we will be able to affect and suggest things, and believe me I have =
plans.....


I do not quite understand how a news list (one way information, coming =
from/controlled by one person) can become a power factor for Yello fans? =
Please explain.

Everybody on this list know you have access to exclusive and very =
interesting/useful information regarding Yello, but do you really need =
your own news/mailing list to publish (I'm tempted to say 'show') this? =
And why did you suddenly change your mind on posting "important news" to =
both lists?

> To join, go to http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/yello-news


I'm not planning to (yet) - I like this list, and one list is enough for =
me. Hopefully, it will still be updated with all the information that is =
available on our favourite band. The best would of course be if you =
continued to publish information on this list, since you, as mentioned =
before, have a lot of Yello news to share.

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From: "Per-Stian Vatne" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Yello
Date: 12 Feb 1999 17:22:30 -0000


Surfing around, I one day stumbled across this... Strange comment, as I =
always thought Yello's "sound" was considered as very high quality, even =
among those who doesn't like their music?


http://www.hyperreal.org/intersection/zines/est/reviews/musrevs2.html

"The problem is that the drum machine, synthesiser and processed vocals =
tend to lack any kind of body or energy, not to mention often needing a =
better rounded mix, and as a result they hark back to the thinner =
sounding music of Kraftwerk or Yello rather than the vibrant, healthy =
sound of today's LFO or 808 State."

Talking about "Societe Anonyme cassette (Danceteria TUEK 9107)"

-----


...and (still surfing) this review of "Pocket Universe"... (a little =
more pro-Yello)


http://www1.haywire.co.uk/haywire/
http://www1.haywire.co.uk/haywire/immerse/
http://frame1.cerbernet.co.uk/haywire/immerse/meter.html

Yello
Pocket Universe
Mercury CD
Some dolt recently wrote in the Guardian that Yello have never done =
anything innovative and have always been content to follow trends. Well, =
one Listen to Stella and The New Mix In One Go would demolish that =
rather flimsy proposition, but it is true to say that Messrs Blank and =
Meier have been resting on their laurels of late, the lacklustre Zebra =
and the awful remix album being cases in point suggesting they've spent =
for too much time on the golf course. Pocket Universe, however is very =
much a return to form and finds the boys adding a few experimental =
touches to the true Yello formula whilst ruminating on science's failure =
to explain the universe to us. Boris Blank conjures some of the most =
impressive soundscapes of his career particularly the stygian vistas of =
Monolith and the grandiose gothic monstrosity Liquid Mountain. On their =
day there's few to match Blank's cinematic vision and Meier's eccentric =
improvisations and even when they take on psychedelic trance, on the =
extraordinary Celsius and punishing Resistor, they stamp it with they =
own inimitable style. Magical in every sense of the word. NG

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Subject: RE: (yello) Yello News List
Date: 13 Feb 1999 11:54:37 GMT/BST


Surely we're not in this loop again?

Why ANOTHER list?

So some of the discussion of late has included irrelevant material (jokes
etc.), but if there was a Yello convention held in some room, we wouldn't
all just be "Yello , Yello , Yello ...", we would be human and talk about
other things, tell a few jokes.

I assume this list has some junk advert associated with it.

I abhor this intrusion so much, I registered my own web domain at my
expense for my work.

The current list is fine for disseminating Yello information, it's up to
the owner of the list to reprimand anyone going too far off topic, or do
we want a moderated list?

I'm fairly sure on a couple of occasions, messages have appeared on this
list that I have not seen the original posting, and it's generally been a
flame. I'm sure Yello themselves would not condone this sort of
behaviour, and would expect their fans to act with some level of decorum
when discussing their work.

Multiple lists will only make the problem worse, half heard conversations
misinterpreted and list members of (which list?) falling out online,
while we witness the arguments?

I'd rather unsubscribe. One list, one source of information please.

Some of us may have access to more information, but that does not give
that person the right to think they are superior to anyone else on this
list, we are all equal, and it is no basis for setting up their own
infomation distribution channels. That's how propaganda starts.

I know now who will object to what I say in this, but by whose authority
do you act? Ask that question of yourself. Fill my mailbox with flames,
but what exactly will that prove? I do not claim to be right, but I know
what is common sense.

My suggestion is to precede the subject. e.g. NEWS:, ANN:, RUMOUR:. Also,
it's helpful if YELLO is not used as a subject in itself!

To drag this kicking and screaming back to Yello, I'm going to try
Frontstage or get my copy of Eccentrix, but so far I've had some problems
getting my Netscape (V3 Gold OpenVMS VAX) to accept the certificates.
Anyone had any luck with Frontstage? (to private email unless it's
relevant please).

Regards to all

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From: Roger Schweizer <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Re:Yello news list
Date: 14 Feb 1999 19:48:08 +0100


Hi all

Jonas is not the only men where you give news about Yello !!
I can give you also any news about the new album and more !!
(On this list!!!!!!)

greeting
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From: Roger Schweizer <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) News
Date: 14 Feb 1999 19:55:49 +0100


Hi all

There is a new german promotional 12" single.
A-side: On Track - Doug Laurent's First Journey. B-Side: The Race -
Brake Light Mix and More - Rockabilly Mix.
No catalogue number, black sleeve.

greeting

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Subject: Re: (yello) Re:Yello news list
Date: 14 Feb 1999 11:03:16 -0800




Roger Schweizer wrote:

> Hi all
>
> Jonas is not the only men where you give news about Yello !!
> I can give you also any news about the new album and more !!
> (On this list!!!!!!)
>
> greeting
> Roger
>

Why do you guys hate Jonas so much. He is harmless. Let the guy be. as for your
comment roger, so far i have not heard any of the yello news news metioned in
Jonas's post this morning. thanx jonas, i found that info extremely refreshing,
as i will rent that movie this afternoon, and will cotinue to recieve news from
BOTH LISTS

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From: Georg Plank <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Reply to "critique"
Date: 13 Feb 1999 18:30:35 +0100


Jonas Warstad wrote:

> I don't know who sent this "critique" and there's something very strange
> about it. Two different email addresses were used:
>
> Giorgio Giovanni <[e-mail]>
> Georg Plank <[e-mail]>
>
> and it's not Georg Plank's usual style, even though his name is used in the end.

Sorry Jonas - this was not meant to confuse you, it was only a wrong
mail preference setting caused
by one of my colleagues. Now this mail should have the correct address.

I do not want to start a new discussion about your news list.

I only wanted to make it clear, that if you are not willing
to share new information on this list, someone else will do it .

So for me I see no advantage in changing the list or having two different
lists.

b.t.w.  I fully agree with Nic's mail about this list.

Yours,
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Subject: (yello) you can choose to ignore me if you wish
Date: 13 Feb 1999 09:30:52 PST


Normally I don't pay attention to email virus warnings because most of
them are bogus, but my usually "anti-virus warning" listserv was making
such a big hubbub about it, I decided to check it out.

If you get an email from anyone with the attachment file "happy99.exe"
or something similar, DO NOT RUN IT!!!!!!!!  It will display a seemingly
harmless fireworks show and then the fun begins.  Once infected, the
virus will automatically send itself out over your emails to your
friends.  Go to this site to learn more.  This has happened to several
people on a listserv I subsribe to.  I appologize if this post is
against the list's rules.

http://www.datafellows.com/v-descs/ska.htm

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From: [e-mail] (Craig Hull)
Subject: (yello) Question about Vinyl
Date: 15 Feb 1999 12:21:46 +1000


Hello all,

About 8 months ago I managed to buy some Yello music on vinyl (Vicious
Games, Goldrush (one of my fav's) and Live at the Roxy (at last!)), but my
record player wasn't working (talk about frustration!). I finally find out
what was wrong with it, and have fixed it. But I must admit that I am not
used to having music on vinyl any more, and so was wondering what the best
method is to clean them, and generally look after them.

I have listened to them, and was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the
sound. Does anyone else still use/prefer vinyl over a cd?

Regards,
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Subject: RE: (yello) Yello News List
Date: 15 Feb 1999 09:02:28 +0100



> Some of us may have access to more information, but that does not give
> that person the right to think they are superior to anyone else on this
> list, we are all equal, and it is no basis for setting up their own
> infomation distribution channels. That's how propaganda starts.
>
But surley we have freedome of choice and speak. If Jonas choose to have an
information only list, why shouldn't he. He is free to start one and you are
free to join or not to join. I can't see any evidence in any of Jonas
postings that he should have any intention to make anyone believe that he is
superior to anyone else, so please try not to make up things when you want
to make a point.
Sorry, but I always thought that propaganda started when other channels of
information was not alowed, not when there where several different channels.


> I know now who will object to what I say in this, but by whose authority
> do you act?
>
On whose authority do you act?


Kindest regards

Eric





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Subject: (yello) Yello's Homebase
Date: 15 Feb 1999 09:10:18 +0000


Hi all,
     I have a question regarding the recently updated 'New Output' page on
the Homebase.
     I managed to get through to the 'Eccentrix' Screen, - but can anyone
inform me of what
is supposed to happen on there?
     So far the main image is an animated gif as far as  I can see, but
what purpose do the
numbers below serve? I know they are hyperlinks of some kind, but nothing
seems to happen when
you click on them.
     I used Netscape 3, Netscape Communicator & IE 4, without success.

If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know.

Regards,
James




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Subject: Re: (yello) Yello's Homebase
Date: 15 Feb 1999 07:47:40 EST


In a message dated 15/02/99, 03:10:12, [e-mail] writes:
<< I managed to get through to the 'Eccentrix' Screen, - but can anyone
inform me of what is supposed to happen on there?
     So far the main image is an animated gif as far as  I can see, but
what purpose do the numbers below serve? I know they are hyperlinks of some
kind, but nothing seems to happen when you click on them.>>

For what its worth.... I'm using IE4, if I right-click and select "open
link..." on certain numbers a reference comes up on the status bar to a
particular track/mix on the album, but of course nothing else happens. I
thought I'd try opening the link in a separate window but yet again.... no
result. I would therefore suggest the problem is not with us but with the
people who've designed the site... which may well be a work in progress
(though it's a pity they don't choose to inform us). It's all a bit shoddy...
I would wonder what this firm of web designers are being paid for their so-
called work ?

Andrew


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From: "Serge Popov" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Yello's Homebase
Date: 15 Feb 1999 16:46:27 +0200


Hi


|
|     So far the main image is an animated gif as far as  I can see, but
|what purpose do the numbers below serve? I know they are hyperlinks of some
|kind, but nothing seems to happen when you click on them.>>
|

The page's title states 'Changing Multiple Frames on MouseOver Event'
For those who are not aware of web design I'll try to make things clear.
You don't have to click, just let the mouse pointer rest for some time
over a number. This causes the lower frame to display info on the selected
track. And everything works fine.

|result. I would therefore suggest the problem is not with us but with the
|people who've designed the site... which may well be a work in progress
|(though it's a pity they don't choose to inform us). It's all a bit shoddy...
|I would wonder what this firm of web designers are being paid for their so-
|called work ?
|


The only thing with the web designers is that they didn't make things clear for
beginners of web serfing. But all the rest is done very well.

Best regards,
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Subject: Re: (yello) Yello's Homebase
Date: 15 Feb 1999 06:57:03 -0800




[e-mail] wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>      I managed to get through to the 'Eccentrix' Screen, - but can anyone
> inform me of what
> is supposed to happen on there?
>      So far the main image is an animated gif as far as  I can see, but
> what purpose do the
> numbers below serve? I know they are hyperlinks of some kind, but nothing
> seems to happen when
> you click on them.
>
> If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know.
>
> Regards,
> James

I was also a little confused at first, but it's rather quite unique how they set
it up. if you highlight any of the numbers, then move your mouse cursor away
from the number(up or down,and away), you will then notice a little scroll bar
on the bottom righthand corner of your browser. It's a little more obvious with
netscape, as on IE4, the scoll bar is extremly tiny and hard to even notice.
You'll only see the minature scroll bar if browser is on the fully mazimized
(full screen)setting. With the scroll bar, you can then scroll it up or down to
see the printed text info of each song. The + at the end shows a neat little
picture of the exentriks, with some release info

Have fun with it

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From: Paul Hill <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) let's not dwell on our petty critiques
Date: 15 Feb 1999 11:12:57 -0500


Hi all...

I haven't written to the list very much as I'm more of a reader than a
writer, but this recent mumbo jumbo about Jonas is very disturbing
indeed.  Let's give the guy some credit.  I mean he is writing a book
(which I'm looking forward to reading), has had interviews with Boris,
and as far as I can tell is perhaps more knowledgeable when it comes to
their music and their art than the rest of us.  It seems that his best
interest is at hand when he created the other list.  I'm sure he
believes in free speech but he also seems dedicated to providing the
group with pertinent information on Yello.  Let's move on with our lives
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Subject: Re: Re: (yello) Yello's Homebase
Date: 15 Feb 1999 11:12:00 EST


In a message dated 15/02/99, 08:55:19, [e-mail] writes:
<<The only thing with the web designers is that they didn't make things clear
for
beginners of web serfing.>>

I'm sure neither James or myself would consider ourselves "beginners".

To my mind something is badly designed, full-stop,  if it is not clear to
another person using it what they are meant to do, regardless of their level
of experience.

Still thank you, for indicating how this page works.

Andrew


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Subject: Re: Re: (yello) Yello's Homebase
Date: 15 Feb 1999 19:24:46 +0200


Hi


|In a message dated 15/02/99, 08:55:19, [e-mail] writes:
|<<The only thing with the web designers is that they didn't make things clear
|for
|beginners of web serfing.>>
|
|I'm sure neither James or myself would consider ourselves "beginners".

Well, we are all beginners in some sense. Because when we see something
for the first time we just begin to learn it. Anyway, I didn't mean to
offend anyone, but it was absolutely clear for me what to do and I am
not a web design professional but let's say just 'a power user'.

BTW: I've just visited the page and _clicked_ on the numbers. Everything
works without any troubles. I don't see why it didn't work with you. And
also, what you see in the center of the page is not an animated GIF, but
a Java applet. Also, it seems like the page was designed for resolutions
1024x768 and higher, and this is really not good.



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Subject: (yello) Sample !!!
Date: 15 Feb 1999 19:33:13 +0100


Hi,

I wonder if someone could help me about this sample I put on
http://yello.maxima.org (/Incoming/sample.mp3) !!! Is that from Yello ??? If
yes, what is the title of this tune ???

Thanx again for your help !

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From: nic <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (yello) Question about Vinyl
Date: 15 Feb 1999 07:35:04 GMT/BST


>About 8 months ago I managed to buy some Yello music on vinyl (Vicious
>Games, Goldrush (one of my fav's) and Live at the Roxy (at last!)), but my
>record player wasn't working (talk about frustration!). I finally find out
>what was wrong with it, and have fixed it. But I must admit that I am not
>used to having music on vinyl any more, and so was wondering what the best
>method is to clean them, and generally look after them.

Craig,

Biggest problem I find with vinyl is that folks often leave
fingermarks/grease on the record itself. Leaves a little layer of grease
which dirt and dust sticks to.

I have found (after a tip) that the best way to deal with dirt on a vinyl is
to wash it. I use washing up liquid/detergent as it disolves grease best, and
I use COOL or preferably cold water (warm or hot water may warp the vinyl).

One of those 'ioniser' type brushes that has a hard brush surface with lots
of bristles, gently wiped in a circular direction a few times then a rinse
under a running tap. I leave the record in the draining board to dry in the
air. You may have a problem with this if you have hard water, and you may
beed to rinse with distilled.

The only problem with this are paper labels. The majority do not run, but may
be affected. I have never had one fall off, but the decision is yours.

The only noise that should be left are the actual scratches and any surface
noise already there. in About 90% of the cases there is an improvement.

>I have listened to them, and was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the
>sound. Does anyone else still use/prefer vinyl over a cd?

I now have Pocket Universe on vinyl as well as CD. I on this list have
praised the sound of PU, but compared to the vinyl, there is an extra
presence with the sound stage definition, but the dynamics of both CD and
vinyl are pretty well matched. (A/B test, moving coil cartridge on vinyl
side, 18 bit hybrid D-A converter on CD side) (18 bit, yes I wondered that)

Of the earlier stuff compared to vinyl and CD, to me the CD's sound duller,
and are candidate for remastering, but they should be remastered by Yello
themselves.

I hope this helps, and perhaps some of your other record collection too.
Getting a little offtopic, but I'll take more vinyl related stuff privately,
unless relevant.

Hey, I've even washed CD's that skip too!

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Subject: Re: (yello) Sample !!!
Date: 15 Feb 1999 16:08:19 -0700


On Mon, Feb 15, 1999 at 07:33:13PM +0100, Vialle Gr=E9gory wrote:

> I wonder if someone could help me about this sample I put on
> http://yello.maxima.org (/Incoming/sample.mp3) !!! Is that from Yello ?=
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From: kAkkerlAkk <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) The Sample
Date: 15 Feb 1999 19:20:36 -0500


The sample you are all wondering about is from the 12" of Unbelievable,
I think its from the Morales mix or dub me mix, cant remember off hand.
Hope this helps...

kAkk

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From: "J÷rg Bott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Yello's Homebase
Date: 15 Feb 1999 17:10:12 PST


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clear for
|beginners of web serfing. But all the rest is done very well.
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Interesting that you see it that way, Serge.
I find this to be one of the most annoying designs I've seen out there.
It's fancy - no doubt about that. The designer sure knows how to
implement some cool java stuff to make it appear high-tech, but if you
look at the web site from a usability perspective, I'm sorry but it
sucks! First of all, it's s-l-o-w. And I have a very fast connection.
Second, let's just take the dice as an example. It's a nice gimmik, but
using it as an index/navigation tool - I don't think so! It's like
having a table of contents in a book that says "There are two chapters
in this book. Period." How useful is that?

And after you are done with "Chapter 1" they make you go back to the
ridicules index before you can go to "Chapter 2".

Yello's music rules, but their web site needs a major overhaul.

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From: Marko Patsikka <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) The Sample
Date: 16 Feb 1999 08:28:40 +0200


kAkkerlAkk wrote:
>
> The sample you are all wondering about is from the 12" of Unbelievable,
> I think its from the Morales mix or dub me mix, cant remember off hand.
> Hope this helps...

No, it's not from 12" Unbelievable, There is six mixes on that disc and
all those are totally different than this one.

There is only one mix where is used words "Johannesburg South Africa"
one times...

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Subject: CASE IN POINT, was RE: (yello) let's not dwell on our petty critiques
Date: 15 Feb 1999 23:06:37 GMT/BST


And to prove my point about two lists...... someone writes...


>I haven't written to the list very much as I'm more of a reader than a
>writer, but this recent mumbo jumbo about Jonas is very disturbing
>indeed.  Let's give the guy some credit.  I mean he is writing a book
>(which I'm looking forward to reading), has had interviews with Boris,
>and as far as I can tell is perhaps more knowledgeable when it comes to
>their music and their art than the rest of us.  It seems that his best
>interest is at hand when he created the other list.  I'm sure he
>believes in free speech but he also seems dedicated to providing the
>group with pertinent information on Yello.  Let's move on with our lives
>and keep jammin to the music!  Thanks for your time.  Paul

I'm not subscribed to that other list, and I see defence for arguments
I've not even seen. But the line

...It seems that his best
>interest is at hand when he created the other list.

says a lot. I'm not arguing either way about the knowledge, but this has
demonstrated the list breakdown.

Absolute power corrupts. Can we PLEASE get back to ONE LIST ONLY.

Jonas, will you please submit information to one list only. You're saying
things, and I'm not hearing them. But then again, perhaps you're not
reading this, because you're not subscribed to this list...?

(If this is known to be the case, can someone forward this to him
please?)

Madness... now there's a group for discussion, and I bet they only have
ONE mailing list, not half a dozen.

Regards

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Subject: RE: (yello) Yello News List
Date: 16 Feb 1999 00:14:30 GMT/BST


>But surley we have freedome of choice and speak. If Jonas choose to have an
>information only list, why shouldn't he. He is free to start one and you are
>free to join or not to join. I can't see any evidence in any of Jonas
>postings that he should have any intention to make anyone believe that he is
>superior to anyone else, so please try not to make up things when you want
>to make a point.
>Sorry, but I always thought that propaganda started when other channels of
>information was not alowed, not when there where several different channels.

I have not seen any of Jonas postings. How can I comment? How can I be
accused of making things up, when I haven't even seen what I'm supposed to be
making things up about? I'm guessing. But I'm also trying to speculate why
someone would want to set up another list.

Free speech yes, but do we get to the point of the Peoples Front of Judea,
the Judean Popular Front... If you've not seen Monty Python it'll mean
nothing, but we could all have our own mailing lists individually, now where
would that get us?

>> I know now who will object to what I say in this, but by whose authority
>> do you act?
>>
>On whose authority do you act?

I act on no authority, I don't claim to, I have not created a list, but I try
to do what is sensible. I've already posted another message, which is a reply
to something I've not seen. Exactly how many email lists do I have to be
subscribed to?

This is getting out of hand. This Yello list is becoming useless to me. Shall
I create a "[e-mail]" list and send my
emails there? At least you won't have to read my diatribe.

I think Jonas made his point some while back, he didn't have time for this
list, so he isn't reading it. Likewise, I'm not reading what he says.

We're not talking authority, we're talking sense. What's the point of free
speech is no-one's listening?

Similarly, why split something into many fields, and demand to stand in every
one?

I like Yello, I like their music and their work, I like to know what is going
on, but I do not have the time or inclination to be subscribed to several
mailing lists. I am subscribed to other subject lists, a couple of very high
volume lists with acknowledged subject matter experts, but, there is only one
list per subject, and I'd like to see the Yello list return to just one list.

Nothing to do with authority, just sense.

Majordomo software can cope with NOMAIL settings, and most mail clients have
good filtering abilities. Why shouldn't these software features be used,
rather than create a new list?

I'm sorry this is all offtopic, but I feel very strongly about it. I've been
on the 'net for some considerable time now (before the advent of the ISPs),
I've seen mailing lists come, go, be transferred, but I've never seen one
divide and retain credibility, and the Yello list is losing it.

Regards all

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From: "Serge Popov" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Yello's Homebase
Date: 16 Feb 1999 09:56:22 +0200


Hello.

|Interesting that you see it that way, Serge.
|I find this to be one of the most annoying designs I've seen out there.
|It's fancy - no doubt about that. The designer sure knows how to
|implement some cool java stuff to make it appear high-tech, but if you
|look at the web site from a usability perspective, I'm sorry but it
|sucks! First of all, it's s-l-o-w. And I have a very fast connection.

Well, I have just 28.8k and I've seen a lot of page that are much more
slower but don't have all that magic on them. And another thing - try
to make the same without java and faster. You'll see that it's not as
easy as just saying that.

|Second, let's just take the dice as an example. It's a nice gimmik, but
|using it as an index/navigation tool - I don't think so! It's like
|having a table of contents in a book that says "There are two chapters
|in this book. Period." How useful is that?
|
|And after you are done with "Chapter 1" they make you go back to the
|ridicules index before you can go to "Chapter 2".

Have you ever looked at the status line of your browser?
When the mouse is out of the cube it states: "Select a face"
When the mouse is over a one dot face: "Selected: YELLO Excentrix Remixes"
When the mouse is over a two dot face: "Selected: YELLO Pocket Universe"
Isn't that enough to navigate? Or you prefer a dull text menu?
You shouln'd forget - it's a YELLO homepage. And its style is very
similar to their video clips. That's why I say it's done well, but
unfortunately not perfect. If you understand their music, you can
navigate their. It's only a question of styles.

For example the cube is not just randomly rotating. Try to put the mouse
at different locations around it and you'll see that it's a bit clever :)


P.S. It all begins to go far off topic. So please think twice before
replying to the list. If you want to keep on this discussion it should
go privately. But if others want to read this - then OK.

Best regards,
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From: Vladimir Ivaschenko <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Yello's Homebase
Date: 16 Feb 1999 12:10:41 +0300


Serge Popov wrote:

>
> Isn't that enough to navigate? Or you prefer a dull text menu?
> You shouln'd forget - it's a YELLO homepage. And its style is very
> similar to their video clips. That's why I say it's done well, but
> unfortunately not perfect. If you understand their music, you can
> navigate their. It's only a question of styles.

I fully agree. YELLO absolutely deserves to have a cool website which is
different from the others, thats why some people find it hard to navigate. But
unlike their website, people don't complain about Yello's music being
different? :-)
Also, when speaking to other people about my favourite groups, a cool WWW site
which looks different somehow helps to show that these groups ARE different
from the others. www.yello.ch and www.kraftwerk.com are good examples.

And about a message posted earlier where Yello was said to sound like
Kraftwerk... Kraftwerk is an unique, great group and I'm their big fan.  So is
Yello, and their music doesn't have *anything* to do with Kraftwerk's - they're
totally different, even on the emotional level, and I'm big fan of Yello as
well. But Yello & KW's sound is absolutely incomparable.

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Subject: Re: Re: (yello) Yello's Homebase
Date: 16 Feb 1999 06:29:36 EST


In a message dated 16/02/99, 04:13:40, [e-mail] writes:
<<I fully agree. YELLO absolutely deserves to have a cool website which is
different from the others, thats why some people find it hard to navigate. But
unlike their website, people don't complain about Yello's music being
different? :-)>>

I think the point myself and others were making was that it's not very cool,
if it takes ages to download (even with a fast connection), unreliable, is
updated infrequently and only works if you set your browser in a particular
mode.

The Kraftwerk site is I suppose suitably enigmatic (but hardly a website I
would tell people to go out of their way to access... and before this is taken
as a stinging criticism, I am talking about one of my all-time favourites,
here).

I find music-related websites "cool" when the artist themselves has taken a
personal interest and ensures the content is being changed on a regular basis
- Kristin Hersh for instance allows you to subscribe to a service where for
less than a price of a CD you can download an exclusive track each month for a
year annotated with her own comments. David Byrne's Luakabop site has some
fantastic graphics, interesting stuff to download and links to CD Now so you
can order the music on the label, as well as a choice of "radio" stations to
listen to while your there. I'd also recommend Public Enemy's - the first
group to make available the "mp4" format !!

The point about these sites is it's easy and fun to navigate your way around
them and you don't have to sit for ever twiddling your thumbs waiting for a
page to download. These artists are just as unique and individual as Yello -
but there is a real feeling that they are actively trying to utilise the full
potential of the internet, while Yello would just rather leave it in the hands
of others.

A final point... you appear to come close to implying that those of us who
have had problems with the site, have done so because maybe we're in someways
less attuned with their thinking - I'm sure you don't mean this - but being
different, isn't about being in some exclusive club that only the enlightened
can join and it isn't an excuse, for what in anybody else's book is just
sloppy design.


Andrew


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From: Vladimir Ivaschenko <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Yello's Homebase
Date: 16 Feb 1999 14:46:56 +0300


[e-mail] wrote:

> I think the point myself and others were making was that it's not very cool,
> if it takes ages to download (even with a fast connection), unreliable, is
> updated infrequently and only works if you set your browser in a particular
> mode.
>

I would argue that it takes ages.. It's ok on my 28.8k.

>
> The Kraftwerk site is I suppose suitably enigmatic (but hardly a website I
> would tell people to go out of their way to access... and before this is taken
> as a stinging criticism, I am talking about one of my all-time favourites,
> here).
>

It seems that we have different points of view on how an official site should
look like.
My opinion is that mainly it should show the "feeling" and the style. Filling the
OFFICIAL site with lots of information is not so important - there will always be
fan sites with lots of more information and facts which will never appear on the
official resource.
I don't consider Yello's site to be that perfect; I think white background would
better match their style ;-)

Kraftwerk.com is very close to perfection, however. They managed to visually
convey their "feel". If the put lots of information they would simply ruin
everything, remember the KW principles of minimalism..

And actually, it is actually pretty fun to understand how to browse through an
unordinary site. I don't like when everything is the same. Maybe thats because
I consider Internet to be an another source of art, not only information.

>
> I find music-related websites "cool" when the artist themselves has taken a
> personal interest and ensures the content is being changed on a regular basis
> - Kristin Hersh for instance allows you to subscribe to a service where for
> less than a price of a CD you can download an exclusive track each month for a
> year annotated with her own comments. David Byrne's Luakabop site has some
> fantastic graphics, interesting stuff to download and links to CD Now so you
> can order the music on the label, as well as a choice of "radio" stations to
> listen to while your there. I'd also recommend Public Enemy's - the first
> group to make available the "mp4" format !!
>

For me this all looks more like a fan site.

>
> The point about these sites is it's easy and fun to navigate your way around
> them and you don't have to sit for ever twiddling your thumbs waiting for a
> page to download. These artists are just as unique and individual as Yello -

Hmm.. Haven't heard about Kristen Hersh before.. Can you send me some background
on her?
By calling an artist unique I understand that he was the first to invent
something.. style and so on.. There are not so many unique people in music in my
opinion - take synths (electronica) for example; there aren't many big names
here.. The ones that come to my mind now are Art of Noise, Kraftwerk, Yello,
JMJarre, hmm.., Tangerine Dream maybe... Not many, although all the modern synth
music that we can hear now (not that I like it much..) is somehow connected to at
least one of those groups.

>
> but there is a real feeling that they are actively trying to utilise the full
> potential of the internet, while Yello would just rather leave it in the hands
> of others.
>

Remember that Yello isn't a "public" group really. They don't need lots of press
and advertisement for people to buy their music. They don't depend on producers
who can kick them out of the door whenever the profits from the sales go down,
like with many teenager groups that appeared in 90s...
My point is that Yello isn't very open by nature (how much info do you have on
Boris?) - thats the part of their style as well.

>
> A final point... you appear to come close to implying that those of us who
> have had problems with the site, have done so because maybe we're in someways
> less attuned with their thinking - I'm sure you don't mean this - but being
> different, isn't about being in some exclusive club that only the enlightened
> can join and it isn't an excuse, for what in anybody else's book is just
> sloppy design.

Sorry if my words sounded like this; I just expressed my opinion on how an
official site should look like. :-) You have the full right to disagree.


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From: Mark Pulley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Sample !!!
Date: 17 Feb 1999 00:00:11 +1100


>Subject:     (yello) Sample !!!
>Sent:        12/2/19 1:51 AM
>Received:    16/2/99 11:31 PM
>From:        Vialle Gr=E9gory, [e-mail]
>To:          YELLO mailing list, [e-mail]
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I wonder if someone could help me about this sample I put on
>http://yello.maxima.org (/Incoming/sample.mp3) !!! Is that from Yello ??? =
If
>yes, what is the title of this tune ???

It starts off with one of the 'Unbelievable' remixes by David Morales =
(12" 1990), but then turns into something not by Yello. I assume this =
sample is from a 'megamix' by many artists.

Mark
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From: "J÷rg Bott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Yello's Homebase
Date: 16 Feb 1999 09:01:06 PST



|And another thing - try
|to make the same without java and faster. You'll see that it's not |as
easy as just saying that.

You may be right, but that's not the point. The point is that if
it can't be "the same" and faster then it shouldn't be the same.

|If you understand their music, you can
|navigate their. It's only a question of styles.

Following your logic, I guess you also think that someone should
understand rocket science before s/he can navigate http://www.nasa.gov
Now, how much sense does that make?
BTW, what makes you think that you are so privileged to understand
Yello's music more than I do?

|P.S. It all begins to go far off topic. So please think twice before
|replying to the list.

ditto.

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From: "Serge Popov" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Yello's Homebase
Date: 16 Feb 1999 21:46:00 +0200


Hi


||And another thing - try
||to make the same without java and faster. You'll see that it's not |as
|easy as just saying that.
|
|You may be right, but that's not the point. The point is that if
|it can't be "the same" and faster then it shouldn't be the same.

What you say sounds like: a car can't be luxurious and cheap, then
it shouldn't be luxurious. When you see a Cadillac or Mercedes-
Benz S600 you don't say they shouldn't exist in this world just
because you can't afford them, do you? (Or maybe you can afford them)
But if someone wants a luxurious car he/she is ready to pay for it.

The same happens here. Yello is an outstanding band and some of their
melodies will live forever like Mozart's or Bethoven's. Their music
is not for a wide folk, and many people don't understand it, it's too
complicated for them. It's like a luxurious car, because both are
made with a great talent. Then why their homepage should be simple
and fast-loading, like thousends of other pages of ordinary people?
Have you ever seen a rich man dressed in rags?

The homepage of a band is not (and should mostly not be, IMHO) only a
source of info, but also another way of expressing themselves as their
music and videos do.

So, if you need just info, there are plenty of fan's sites in the Yello web
ring. They are loaded fast and don't have Java. They give even more info
then the Homebase does, why don't you visit them? Because you want an
original source, but one should always be ready to pay for originality.

|
||If you understand their music, you can
||navigate their. It's only a question of styles.
|
|Following your logic, I guess you also think that someone should
|understand rocket science before s/he can navigate http://www.nasa.gov
|Now, how much sense does that make?

Don't confuse different things. Nasa's page serves mostly popularization
and educational purposes. And even their, if you want go deeply into some
project, you should understand the basics.

Yello's site purpose is to let the Net know of the band and their music.
They chose thier unordinary style of music, clips, etc. Then why should
a homepage not follow it?

|BTW, what makes you think that you are so privileged to understand
|Yello's music more than I do?


I didn't say it's a privilege. Yes, I think I understand their music,
that's why I don't have troubles understanding their web pages. But
I don't say it is a necessary condition. I don't know whether you
understand Yello's music or not. The point is that you are complaining
about the homepage and I, like many others, just enjoy it as it is,
because it is worth it.

Best regards,
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) SHUTUP!
Date: 16 Feb 1999 15:26:46 EST


--On whose authority do you act?--

Please people! Your arguements are why I have been deleting messages to the
list before they are read. Stop quibbiling like children about who can spit
and piss farther. there is new stuff coming out and Goddammit if no one can
help me find it in Seattle (no flames to those who have offered to sell me
theirs or where to order in Europe).

If you're going to argue, how about private email between the warring
factions? What a concept!! Honestly, more than list doesn't interest me but
should the sheer volume of postings warrant it, I will be supportive of it.
Should some of the kiddies take a nap?

I have probably 1/2 of the Yello knowledge of anyone else on this list. I
subscribed to learn more about them and be "taught" the ins and outs of the
Yello listening culture. Sheesh, I never even heard of the ReWatch just a
couple of months ago, but if all that members do is argue, then I will be
"taught" how to argue too.

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From: Marko Patsikka <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) SHUTUP!
Date: 16 Feb 1999 22:35:13 +0200




[e-mail] wrote:
>
> --On whose authority do you act?--
>
> Please people! Your arguements are why I have been deleting messages to the
> list before they are read. Stop quibbiling like children about who can spit
> and piss farther. there is new stuff coming out and Goddammit if no one can
> help me find it in Seattle (no flames to those who have offered to sell me
> theirs or where to order in Europe).

Flames?? Is this normally way how You call help in US??

I'm really suprised about Your comment (am I understand it right?),
someone are ready to buy extra record and send it to You and take only
his charges and you call it flame. :-(


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (yello) Yello's Homebase
Date: 16 Feb 1999 19:13:08 EST


In a message dated 16/02/99 20:05:52 GMT Standard Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< I didn't say it's a privilege. Yes, I think I understand their music,
 that's why I don't have troubles understanding their web pages. But
 I don't say it is a necessary condition. I don't know whether you
 understand Yello's music or not. The point is that you are complaining
 about the homepage and I, like many others, just enjoy it as it is,
 because it is worth it. >>

I think it's now been established that any "problems" with the "Eccentrix"
content have arisen from the way in which the way the web page appears in
different browsers. The feature the web designers incorporated in this page
simply does not work with IE4 unless it is running in full-screen mode. Thus
this has nothing at all to do with whether one "understands" Yello or not -
rather it is something that the designers employed by Yello should have taken
account of given the number of people who use IE.

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Subject: (yello) Homebase
Date: 17 Feb 1999 08:55:19 +0000


>>>Thus this has nothing at all to do with whether
one "understands" Yello or not - rather it is something
that the designers employed by Yello should have taken
account of given the number of people who use IE.

Yes. Also, - I used Netscape Communicator on the
Web Page and was ONLY able to view the scrollbar
at the bottom of the page, when I removed the
Navigation bar (at the top) from view.

In addition, since it was myself who originally posted the
question to the list about how the recently updated screens
were to be navigated, - I apologize for any subsequent
'disagreements' that I may have instigated.

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From: "Mathias af Jochnick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) SHUTUP!
Date: 17 Feb 1999 06:58:32 +0100



>I'm really suprised about Your comment (am I understand it right?),
>someone are ready to buy extra record and send it to You and take only
>his charges and you call it flame. :-(


Makke, I think he meant to say that his comment was NOT a 'screw-You-all' to
those who had offered him help. He just wants to get the album in Seattle,
without all the mailing hassle.


Still no signs of Eccentrix in Sweden. What the hell are they doing??

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From: Mayer <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Eccentrix in the USA
Date: 17 Feb 1999 01:07:38 -0600


I found a local record store in my town (Madison, Wisconsin) willing to
order Eccentrix for me, charging $30.99.  If anybody in the US is
interested in contacting them, email me and I'll send the phone number.

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From: Nathan Lloyd <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (yello) Eccentrix in the UK?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 15:42:18 +0000


What do I do to get hold of Eccentrix?  What action are people in the UK  =20
taking to get their copy?

If anyone has had any success ordering through mainstream music shops, ie =20=
=20
Virgin, HMV or Our Price or through a reputable import company I would  =20
appreciate it if they could let me know=2E=2E=2E=2E

Cheers

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From: Duane <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) The Yello site
Date: 17 Feb 1999 10:31:09 -0600


In response to the Yello sight being difficult. It is. The sight could
be unique and still fast and effective. Here is an example
http://www.eye4u.com/home/index.htm
Could you imagine this with loops from Yello?
Just a thought.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) Record Mergers
Date: 17 Feb 1999 11:39:24 EST


This being off-topic, but those of us trying to find the really hard stuff
from our favorite artists may want to speed up our searches. Several large
record labels (Island, Virgin, HMV, Atlantic, et al) have merged and have
announced cutbacks on signed artists by as much as 75% and have forced some
groups to buy back copies of their releases. What a shame as now I get to hear
Hootie and the Blowfish and Celine Dion style performed by 75 different acts,
and not the really relevant, progressive, and stylish beats by groups most of
us never heard of. Don't know if I heard it here first, but has been confirmed
by several on a few other lists.

CP


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (yello) The Yello site
Date: 17 Feb 1999 11:49:52 EST


In a message dated 2/17/99 11:29:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, [e-mail]
writes:

> http://www.eye4u.com/home/index.htm

I cant belive you mentioned this site. I personaly think this is the best
looking site on the net and am in prossess of learning Flash to make my own
Yello site like it.

Julian


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) Labels
Date: 17 Feb 1999 16:55:50 +0000


>>Several large record labels (Island, Virgin,
 HMV, Atlantic, et al) have merged and have announced
cutbacks on signed artists by as much as 75% and have
forced some groups to buy back copies of their releases.

If I understand correctly, this is quite significant -
does this mean quantity in actual production is cut back?
By 'forcing some groups' do you mean that if a party wishes
a release to stay available, that it's in their own interests
to buy copies while still in production?

I knew the record industry was in a kind of recession, but this
is quite drastic.

Regards,
James




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (yello) The Yello site
Date: 17 Feb 1999 12:01:59 -0500


That site also is one of my favorites.
Check this one out ,I am sure you will like it.

http://www.gabocorp.com/

This is why I bought stock in macromedia :-)

[e-mail] wrote:
>
>
> > http://www.eye4u.com/home/index.htm
>
> I cant belive you mentioned this site. I personaly think this is the best
> looking site on the net and am in prossess of learning Flash to make my own
> Yello site like it.
>


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (yello) The Yello site
Date: 17 Feb 1999 11:55:19 EST


In a message dated 17/02/99, 10:29:35, [e-mail] writes:
<<In response to the Yello sight being difficult. It is. The sight could
be unique and still fast and effective. Here is an example
http://www.eye4u.com/home/index.htm
Could you imagine this with loops from Yello?
Just a thought.>>

This is indeed a very impressive site - well worth looking at.

Andrew



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From: "Daniel Svensson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Please
Date: 17 Feb 1999 15:28:54 +0100


Until recently this forum has been a very warm and hospitable place to fl=
oat
away into. But now I sense a certain kind of evilness lurking around. Can=
=B4t
we just stay friends the way we always have been. I don=B4t like to read
postings where people are arguing about nonsense. I like to read postings
about Yello or funny stories. Let people have the opinions they want to
have, and say what they want to say, but ask yourself, do I really need t=
o
say this? Is it possible I might hurt someone?

For example, you don=B4t like that Jonas have an information list of his =
own,
let him have one, if you don=B4t like it, don=B4t subscribe to it. Someon=
e wrote
in one mail that Jonas wasn=B4t the only one who could give information, =
of
course he isn=B4t but on the other hand, he has never asserted that he is.

So I just beg you one more time keep this a discussion forum not a debate
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) Check out Artists, Insiders Speculate About Effects Of Universal/Polygram Merg
Date: 17 Feb 1999 12:36:39 EST


 Still off-Yello topic, but pertinent to the record industry:

As per previous post about massive record mergers and the emails about my
sources, here's a couple links detailing what all is (and already has
happened) going on:

 <A HREF="http://wallofsound.go.com/news/stories/layoffs012999.html">Click
here: Music Industry Prepares for Massive Layoffs              </A>

<A HREF="http://www.mtv.com/news/gallery/w/whitez990122.html">Click here:
Artists, Insiders Speculate About Effects Of Universal/Polygram Merger As D-
Day Comes</A>

 <A HREF="http://www.mtv.com/news/headlines/990210/story3.html">Click here:
Recording Industry Unveils "Madison Project" In Response To MP3</A>


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (yello) Eccentrix in the UK?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 22:22:24 +0000


> What do I do to get hold of Eccentrix?  What action are people in the UK
> taking to get their copy?
Well I haven't seen Eccentrix in any high street stores , but I am
ordering it from The Esprit catalogue thing :P
Perhaps" MVC"  Might have it, that is a good UK store, I got
Solid Pleasure, Zebra, Pocket Universe and One Second from there..
And when I asked last week in Gloucester for Eccentrix they said
it would be in within a week...
> If anyone has had any success ordering through mainstream music shops, ie
> Virgin, HMV or Our Price or through a reputable import company I would
> appreciate it if they could let me know....


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From: [e-mail] (Craig Hull)
Subject: (yello) She's Got a Gun question
Date: 18 Feb 1999 14:16:33 +1000


OK, this is a fairly trivial question, but hopefully someone will be able
to satisfy my curiosity.

On the track listing for Eccentrix Remixes, "She's Got a Gun (live at the
Palladium N.Y.)" is listed as running for 4.08. But on my copy of the
Goldrush maxi-single, on side two, "She's Got a Gun (live at the Palladium
N.Y.)" is listed at 4.20. Can anyone explain the discrepancy? Did Boris do
some "fine-tuning" for the remixes album?

Craig.

"I pull my gun once"
"I pull my gun twice"




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (yello) She's Got a Gun question
Date: 18 Feb 1999 01:11:56 EST


I haven't done any side by side analysis but I seem to hear more of  what I'd
call an Arabic sort of overtone weaved into this version.

While I'm at it I should comment that the new release seems to make a pretty
good soundtrack for Southern California, maybe life in general.

That song that has the James Bond/Get Smart feel (Topaz?) was playing in the
car as I waited near a park for my kids. A squirrel was darting about
nervously & seems to move in perfecet accord with the song.

Later, same day,  two overweight black women were power-walking  past my house
as I sat in the car pounding "More" out. They thumpity thumped on by,
unbeknownst to them,  marching to the beat.

That evening, family in tow, I was at a stop light and this guy who appeared
to be a boxer out for a run (hands taped like one) shuffle stepped waiting for
the same light. "How, How" was on & my kids pointed out before I noticed that
he too was in time with the music.

I'm not saying that this riivals  the Dark Side of the Moon/ Wizard of Oz
association but...


Regards,
      Fred


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From: Sheldon Stern <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) She's Got a Gun question
Date: 17 Feb 1999 23:16:09 -0800




[e-mail] wrote:

>
> Later, same day,  two overweight black women were power-walking  past my house
> as I sat in the car pounding "More" out. They thumpity thumped on by,
> unbeknownst to them,  marching to the beat.
>
> That evening, family in tow, I was at a stop light and this guy who appeared
> to be a boxer out for a run (hands taped like one) shuffle stepped waiting for
> the same light. "How, How" was on & my kids pointed out before I noticed that
> he too was in time with the music.
>
> I'm not saying that this riivals  the Dark Side of the Moon/ Wizard of Oz
> association but...
>
> Regards,
>       Fred
>

Gee Fred, are you sure that the producers of the new VW Jetta commercial didn't
put you up to this??

Sheldon



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) Off-Topic
Date: 18 Feb 1999 09:24:48 +0000


Over the weekend I bought the new 'Fat Boy Slim' album. In terms of style,
- I liken it
to the Prodigy, - but with more emphasis on 'sampling' - and more noticably
it has the 'humour'
which was present in Yello's more earlier music, with the samples not just
'tacked on' to the music.

'Rockerfella Skank' and 'Praise You' have already been released - (I've no
idea how popular
these tracks were in other countries), but it is the other tracks that
utilize samples well, - and unlike the
Prodigy and FSOL et al; - there aren't parts of the album where it can
occasionally,  - 'grind' making it
unlistenable. -

Each track has been worked on, and thought about. And, also, the two tracks
mentioned above are so
'vastly' different - that the very diversity of the styles impresses the
listener. This was what impressed me about
 Yello.

Regards,
James




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From: Lazlo Nibble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) The Yello site
Date: 18 Feb 1999 08:47:38 -0700


On Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 10:31:09AM -0600, Duane wrote:

> In response to the Yello sight being difficult. It is. The sight could
> be unique and still fast and effective. Here is an example
> http://www.eye4u.com/home/index.htm

Fast and effective?  This site took two minutes to enter and when it was
finished, all I got was the music and a blank page -- and I'm using a
relatively recent browser (Netscape 4.05).

Flashy design does not make a site any good.

--
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Re: (yello) The Yello site
Date: 18 Feb 1999 11:31:49 EST


In a message dated 18/02/99, 09:50:37, [e-mail] writes:
<<Fast and effective?  This site took two minutes to enter and when it was
finished, all I got was the music and a blank page -- and I'm using a
relatively recent browser (Netscape 4.05).

Flashy design does not make a site any good.
>>

It may well be that you need the shockwave plug-in, which you can get from
www.macromedia.com and maybe this also explains why it took so long to load.

When you see the site in it's full glory, I think you might change your mind
:)

Andrew


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From: Antti Koivum{ki <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) SHUTUP!
Date: 18 Feb 1999 21:10:56 +0200 (EET)


On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, Mathias af Jochnick wrote:

> Still no signs of Eccentrix in Sweden. What the hell are they doing?

Well I'm happy to tell that I bought my own copy of Eccentrix today.
Finland is therefore a better place to live in than Sweden. Right? ;)

 [writing dead.letter][antti koivumaki <[e-mail]>]   - oh yeah -
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From: Georg Plank <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) She's Got a Gun question
Date: 18 Feb 1999 21:54:52 +0100


> ....was in time with the music.
>
> I'm not saying that this rivals  the Dark Side of the Moon/ Wizard of O=
z
> association but...

Just switch on your TV and wait for the commercials.
When you are playing Yello instead of the original score - it will be nea=
rly
always in time (exception for washing powder spots)

Maybe our world was build around Yello=B4s music - who knows ....

Yours,
G E O R G





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) Esprit Update
Date: 19 Feb 1999 09:16:57 +0000


Hi all,
     Just to let you know, anybody who reserved a copy of
Eccentrix with Esprit - they recieved their first batch Wednesday
night, and everybody who has reserved a copy should
get theirs by the weekend or early next week at the latest.

Regards,
James




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) Boris equipment...
Date: 19 Feb 1999 22:13:45 +0000


Does anyone know what equipment Boris uses to create his songs?
Does he stick to the same equipment each time or.change from Album to
Album... I have heard sounds used in earlier albums that have been
used for more  recent recordings..

P.S.
I have a Good Condition   Clare Que Si  LP , I picked up today at my
local record store for 10 pounds..
If anyone is interested , let me know :)



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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Vialle_Gr=E9gory?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) MP3
Date: 21 Feb 1999 12:46:59 +0100


I would like to know the real legislation about spreading mp3s !!!



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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Vialle_Gr=E9gory?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) You Know Who-Andy ???
Date: 21 Feb 1999 12:49:50 +0100


What is that song ??? Dieter is singing (isn't it ?) but is that YELLO ???

Greg.



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From: Mark Pulley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) You Know Who-Andy ???
Date: 21 Feb 1999 23:36:35 +1100


>Subject:     (yello) You Know Who-Andy ???
>Sent:        22/2/19 11:41 AM
>Received:    21/2/99 11:30 PM
>From:        Vialle Gr=E9gory, [e-mail]
>To:          YELLO mailing list, [e-mail]
>
>
>What is that song ??? Dieter is singing (isn't it ?) but is that YELLO ???

'Andy' was a single released by 'You Know Who' (Hubertus Hohenlohe =
[coproducer of Ms Bassey's vocals on 'The Rhythm Divine'] and =
others). Dieter Meier sang about four words over and over in between =
verses on the title track. (Hubertus sang the verses.)

I hope no-one gets offended if I say the song was trash. Why did =
Dieter do it?

Mark
--------------------- <http://www.ix.net.au/~mrpulley> =
---------------------
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From: "Ms Oscar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) fun IQ test site
Date: 21 Feb 1999 17:20:21 PST


take this fun test:

http://www.densa.com/densa1.html



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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Vialle_Gr=E9gory?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Samples of albums...
Date: 22 Feb 1999 09:10:54 +0100


If you want to hear some samples of the albums of YELLO, go here :

 http://www.fnac.fr

...then choose "CD VARIETES" instead of "LIVRES" and type "YELLO" in the
small box near this one !!! You will access to the complete YELLO database
of the store.

GREG.



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From: "Daniel Svensson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) =?iso-8859-1?Q?test=2C_don=B4t_read_it?=
Date: 22 Feb 1999 22:20:49 +0100


Test!

I told you not to read this!
;-)



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From: [e-mail] (Shaun Turner)
Subject: Re: (yello) MP3
Date: 23 Feb 1999 08:31:44 GMT


MP3's are illegal, it's that simple.

You breach copyright when something sourced from the same location (say your
copy of Zebra for example) can be used in multiple locations at the same time
(you make an cassette and/or an mp3)

Depending on where you are in the world determines how technical you are about
such things (cassette copy for the car for example).

I's the same story with warez; if you get busted with mp3's you would expect to
spend some time at the pleasure of the state

On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:46:59 +0100, you wrote:

>
>I would like to know the real legislation about spreading mp3s !!!
>
>
>



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From: "Olga Khomuk" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) message for Russian guys
Date: 23 Feb 1999 11:34:28 +0300


This message is for all Russian (or ex-Soviet?) guys out there (not about
subject).

Muzhchiny, pozdravl'aju vas vseh sami znajete s chem ;) !!! Zhelaju vsegda
derzhat' hvost pistoletom pri l'ubyh obstojatel'stvah!

S privetom,

Olga

Joke for others.

Two snakes in a desert are looking at the camel.
1st. Sir, let's play a joke on this camel!
2nd. No Lancelot, we've already played a joke on Merlin!



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From: Marko Patsikka <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Point Blank
Date: 24 Feb 1999 02:14:33 +0200



It this really Boris solo album and vhen it was released?

I saw following lines in site
http://home.sol.no/~jhauso/Palmer.htm

My music collection CD, VINYL

YELLO:
Eccentric (Cd) 1998
Point blank (Cd) 1999


Regards,
-Makke-
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From: nic <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (yello) She's Got a Gun question
Date: 23 Feb 1999 07:45:12 GMT/BST


>Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:16:33 +1000
>From: [e-mail] (Craig Hull)
>
>On the track listing for Eccentrix Remixes, "She's Got a Gun (live at
the
>Palladium N.Y.)" is listed as running for 4.08. But on my copy of the
>Goldrush maxi-single, on side two, "She's Got a Gun (live at the
Palladium
>N.Y.)" is listed at 4.20. Can anyone explain the discrepancy? Did Boris
do
>some "fine-tuning" for the remixes album?

For the purposes of radio timing, I have used a stopwatch to time
records, not just Yello, but a very large proportion of my collection
which has or the potential to be used in radio.

Often a track timing is given, and it can vary on average by 5 to 10
seconds, sometimes by as much as a minute. It may be an error, it may be
by design. I can only think that the reasoning is that they used the real
time counter on a tape machine.

However it does not explain why CD timings are also out, they are better
in accuracy, but still not exact. However it's fair to say in CD that
there are different timings that the player can report. Try pausing a CD
right at the beginning of track 1 and press reverse scan (not track skip)
- you may be surprised.

PU has a number of track times that vary with the album listing, but it
could be that my CD player reports them differently

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Nic
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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Vialle_Gr=E9gory?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) MP3 and legality
Date: 24 Feb 1999 10:40:30 +0100


I read in an info site about MP3's that they are legaly autorized if you got
the original CD, if not you are nor allowed to keep the files !!!

GREG.




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From: Sheldon Stern <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Point Blank
Date: 24 Feb 1999 07:50:29 -0800




Marko Patsikka wrote:

> It this really Boris solo album and vhen it was released?
>
> I saw following lines in site
> http://home.sol.no/~jhauso/Palmer.htm
>
> ---------------------------------
> My music collection CD, VINYL
>
> YELLO:
> Eccentric (Cd) 1998
> Point blank (Cd) 1999
> ---------------------------------
>
> Regards,
> -Makke-

Ya, not to mention that PROMO "Eccentric (Cd) 1998"


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From: Sheldon Stern <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Point Blank
Date: 24 Feb 1999 07:50:34 -0800




Marko Patsikka wrote:

> It this really Boris solo album and vhen it was released?
>
> I saw following lines in site
> http://home.sol.no/~jhauso/Palmer.htm
>
> ---------------------------------
> My music collection CD, VINYL
>
> YELLO:
> Eccentric (Cd) 1998
> Point blank (Cd) 1999
> ---------------------------------
>
> Regards,
> -Makke-

Ya, not to mention that PROMO "Eccentric (Cd) 1998"


Sheldon



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From: Kahlil Breithaupt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) MP3
Date: 24 Feb 1999 08:33:15 -0800


> I would like to know the real legislation about spreading mp3s !!!

In the U.S. consumers are protected by "personal use" legislation that allow
consumers to copy audio and video content between media formats.  The reason for
this is that what you are paying for is the right to listen/view the "art", not own
the cd/tape/lp/dvd/vhs that was used to distribute the material.

Where the law is very specific is with regards to wholesale distribution of
copyrighted material, regardless of whether it is for profit or not.  If you have
not specifically been given the right to distribute the material, it is irrelavent
whether it's an mp3 or an 8-track.

The grey area is how far your personal use can extend, (i.e. making a compilation
tape for a friend).

What is disturbing about (illegal) mp3 distribution over the internet is that it is
making a strong case for record manufacturers, who have been fighting "personal
use" rights from the day they were given to us, to have them legally taken away.

I believe we will at least see some changes in the law regarding digital
reproduction.  There is a fine line that manufacturers are walking when they add
copy protection to digital media.  They are virtually violating our personal use
rights, and I suspect with DVD and encrypted mpX formats, either our personal use
rights will change, or there will be a lot of class action lawsuits against
manufacturers happening.

KGB
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) MP3 legality
Date: 24 Feb 1999 12:27:18 EST


Here is a site I found concerning formal legality of MP3 ownership,
distribution and recording. More or less it is an in-depth article written by
Bob Kohn, Chairman GoodNoise Corp., and former legal counsel for several hi
profile recording, dist. companies. It is considerably wordy, but very
informative, albeit too informative.

http://www.kohnmusic.com/articles/newprimer.html

CP


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From: Antti Koivum{ki <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Yello Merchandise?
Date: 25 Feb 1999 10:50:41 +0200 (EET)


Hello.

Anybody ever seen any Yello T-shirts or other merchandise? I haven't.

 [writing dead.letter][antti koivumaki <[e-mail]>]   - oh yeah -
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Subject: (yello) tshirt
Date: 25 Feb 1999 09:17:36 EST


I have a I love you T-shirt and and a Zebra t and buttons.

J


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From: Vinnie <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) indigestible
Date: 25 Feb 1999 15:35:07 -0800


Dear yello-digest

I am very concerned about the state of YELLO in the world. Have they
ever been less popular? The people at their record company need shooting
for the complete lack of effort that went into promoting PU. This should
have put them right back where they belonged, it is a superb album.
Maybe our heroes couldn't be bothered promoting it either? There were
some very good reviews in British dance magazines but I don't think
anyone else knew about it. Now there is this new album and I haven't
even seen it anywhere. I know I can order it but that isn't the point -
I shouldn't need to! This isn't some brilliant but obscure band (like
The Residents) this is a goddamn internationally known, influencial,
brilliant duo we're talking about. There was an expensive video made for
"To The Sea" wasn't there? I never got to see it once. Yello - that band
in the 80s who did The Race. That's the current stupid thinking on them
here. It's tragic! Where are Yello?!!

> From: Mark Pulley <[e-mail]>

> 'Andy' was a single released by 'You Know Who' (Hubertus Hohenlohe =
> [coproducer of Ms Bassey's vocals on 'The Rhythm Divine'] and =
> others)
> I hope no-one gets offended if I say the song was trash. Why did =
> Dieter do it?

Sounds yukky. Did anyone like "Ice Machine" which Dieter sang on The
Grid's first album.

> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Vialle_Gr=E9gory?=" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (yello) Samples of albums...
>
> If you want to hear some samples of the albums of YELLO, go here :
>  http://www.fnac.fr

Or watch TV ads and trailers, that's where you'll hear them most,
especially The Race and Oh Yeah (dammit!)

> From: Marko Patsikka <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (yello) Point Blank
>
> It this really Boris solo album and vhen it was released?

Yeah, I'm lost, what is this "Point Blank" thing?

> From: nic <[e-mail]>
> Subject: RE: (yello) She's Got a Gun question

> For the purposes of radio timing, I have used a stopwatch to time
> records, not just Yello, but a very large proportion of my collection

get a life!

Yellolove

Vinnie


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) Marketing Marketing Marketing
Date: 25 Feb 1999 16:10:37 +0000


I am very concerned about the state of YELLO
in the world. Have they ever been less popular?

No. Doesn't really matter HOW good an artist is -
Yello had superb talent - but didn't let the world know!

James


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) new CD on eBay
Date: 26 Feb 1999 00:54:52 EST


those that don't have it yet can battle one another for it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=70468003


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From: "Ms Oscar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) tshirt
Date: 26 Feb 1999 06:42:04 PST


Does Yello offer tshirts and other items that you can order?  I've never
been able to attend a concert over here in the US.

Beth


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From: Marko Patsikka <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) tshirt
Date: 26 Feb 1999 23:05:44 +0200




Ms Oscar wrote:

> Does Yello offer tshirts and other items that you can order?  I've never
> been able to attend a concert over here in the US.

Yo, Yo, Yello...

I have never head anything about "fan club products" of Yello. I think
that Yello  above that business, because they simply do their music and
that is what they want to offer to Yello fans. They don't have to do any
t-shirts and so on because they are so _COOL_, you know? :-)

If one wanted some t-shirts, why wouldn't one just do like my wife
does... make them oneselves with scanner and conmputer... and gives it
to her housdand.

I am glad that Yello is doing nothing fan stuff, better way is that they
put all they power to their music, let Backsreetboyz and Boysones do
those fan stuffs... ;-)

-Makke-
Marko PΣtsikkΣ                                          SUOMI-FINLAND
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From: Marko Patsikka <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Ex. Yello
Date: 26 Feb 1999 23:34:53 +0200


I told few weeks ago about ex. Yello fellow Carlos Peron new record. I
don't know wahat will be released day, but something new I can tell...
new record name will be "Power Trancefer"


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From: Lazlo Nibble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Yello Merchandise?
Date: 26 Feb 1999 20:13:35 -0700


On Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 10:50:41AM +0200, Antti Koivum{ki wrote:

> Anybody ever seen any Yello T-shirts or other merchandise? I haven't.

I have a very nice button of the "Solid Pleasure" sleeve art.

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From: Mark Pulley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Ex. Yello
Date: 27 Feb 1999 22:36:03 +1100


>Subject:     (yello) Ex. Yello
>Sent:        22/2/19 8:51 AM
>Received:    27/2/99 10:23 PM
>From:        Marko Patsikka, [e-mail]
>To:          [e-mail]
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>
>I told few weeks ago about ex. Yello fellow Carlos Peron new record. I
>don't know wahat will be released day, but something new I can tell...
>new record name will be "Power Trancefer"

That's funny... I got my copy of "Powertrancefer" in December last =
year from CyberCD
 <http://www.CyberCD.de>.

It is very much a 'techno'-sounding album.

Maybe the new release is something else...?

Mark
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From: "IsaacN" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Back
Date: 27 Feb 1999 11:59:05 -0000


i thought that the yello digest had died because i hadn`t heard anything for
months but it turns out that my e-mail was f**ked. now everyone is talking
about `eccentrix` and i don`t know what it is. is it a new album or what?

thanks, IsaacN.

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From: Sheldon Stern <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) xntrix@EbAY
Date: 27 Feb 1999 21:27:56 -0800


C'mon yello fans this is a crying shame. the new remix album is only at
$14.00 US
and there is not even one bid on it.  what a
bargin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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