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Subject: yello-digest V2 #175
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yello-digest Wednesday, December 29 1999 Volume 02 : Number 175
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 15:46:59 -0700
From: "bdawson" <bdawson@gateway.net>
Subject: (yello) Motion Picture/Squeeze Please
Happy Holidays to you all,
Over the past months/years I've tried to describe how tough it is to be a
Yello fan in Colorado, I think there are about 5 of us in the state! Here's
my story of woe to finding Motion Picture:
I first noticed that MP was listed on Amazon.com for the outrageous price of
$29.95 plus shipping and handling, wanting the disk very badly I decided to
go ahead and order it. It was immediately backordered. Ok I thought most
Amazon backorders are only a few days. Days turned into weeks, nothing.
Then in this very group I saw someone say CD Universe has MP, so I go to CD
Universe and yes they do have it, and it says "In Stock" it was also about
$5.00 cheaper, great I thought as I ordered it. Then returned to Amazon and
cancel my previous order. When I get my confirmation my heart sank as I saw
those dreaded words ON BACKORDER. Again a few days turned into a couple of
weeks, as I was cruzing on CDNow to my surprise they now list MP (this was a
surprise because CDNow have not carried the past couple of releases). Again
I check availability and they list In Stock. So once again I order MP and
go to CD Universe and cancel my order. Sure enough patient reader CDNow
also backordered the disk but within two days I got a confirmation on
shipment.
So after three tries I finally get MP. My thoughts on it? It's a good
album, equal to but not better than PU, in fact I really think I like PU a
little better (with the exception of the dreadful To The Sea). But now I
was in CD Now this morning and saw they are now listing Squeeze Please, of
course I ordered it and of course it's backordered.
So after all this and carefully listening to the album several times a
question to the group, and an observation.
Question; Which comes first the music or the lyrics?
Observation: This is going to rub some people the wrong way, and if so I
apologise in advance, it would appear to me that Dieter is writing the
lyrics before Boris is writing the music. This would IMHO explain the
blandness of the last couple of albums. Dieter appears to be stuck in his
mini-movie mode, Boris is doing the best he can with what little Dieter is
offering. I'll state this after reading the song notes in the CD booklet.
Dieter has been doing basically the same thing since Flag. I believe Dieter
should sit down and write a novel and really flush out his thoughts, or
perhaps a screenplay, something and clear this current line of thought out
of his mind. Boris is obviously ready to move on to more challenging music.
I dearly love Yello and have been a devoted fan for more than 20 years,
however it seems that Yello has gone lower and lower on Dieters priority
list. MP sounds like parts of the last 5 Yello albums all rolled into one.
It sounds like he spent maybe a day working on these lyrics.
Anyway I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts!
Happy New Year to All!
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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 10:12:40 -0500
From: Kent.Pendleton@choicepointinc.com
Subject: Re: (yello) Motion Picture/Squeeze Please
On 12-26, bdawson posed:
Question; Which comes first the music or the lyrics?
Observation: This is going to rub some people the wrong way, and if so I
apologise in advance, it would appear to me that Dieter is writing the
lyrics before Boris is writing the music. This would IMHO explain the
blandness of the last couple of albums. Dieter appears to be stuck in his
mini-movie mode, Boris is doing the best he can with what little Dieter is
offering. I'll state this after reading the song notes in the CD booklet.
Dieter has been doing basically the same thing since Flag. I believe
Dieter
should sit down and write a novel and really flush out his thoughts, or
perhaps a screenplay, something and clear this current line of thought out
of his mind. Boris is obviously ready to move on to more challenging
music.
My reply:
I remember reading an article many years ago where Dieter states
that generally, he meets with Boris, listens to the music he's been
working on, and if he sees a movie in his head, he'll write lyrics for
that movie. The songs that don't 'inspire' a cerebral cinematic event
wind up as the instrumentals. I think this does explain how many
of their lyrical elements carry over album to album. Deiter and Boris
have a wonderful way of working together, and if it's a formula, my
own opinion is that they shouldn't change it.
I do agree with you that Dieter should write a novel. That would be
very cool!
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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 19:14:29 EST
From: FGriego@aol.com
Subject: Re: (yello) Motion Picture/Squeeze Please
There seems to be a thought process in place that lends itself to sameness or
at least similarities.
He must pigeon-hole thoughts that he feels are lyric worthy and pull out his
notebook whenever summoned by Boris. This would dull the spontaneity that was
apparent in earlier efforts.
I think I read of Dieter, "taking a typewriter into the studio & writing the
lyrics as he heard the music."
Happy 2543 to the Buddhists,
Happy 1420 to the Moslems,
Happy 1921 to the Hindus,
Happy 1993 to the Ethiopians,
Happy 4697 to the Chinese,
Happy 5119 to the Mayans,
Happy 5760 to the Hebrews,
and ...
Happy 2000 to everyone else!
Fred
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