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Subject: yello-digest V2 #86
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yello-digest Wednesday, November 11 1998 Volume 02 : Number 086
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:10:05 +0000
From: Nathan Lloyd <nathan.lloyd@virgin.co.uk>
Subject: RE: (yello) Madonna etc.
[Nathan Lloyd] James
I to think that Pocket Universe is complete and utter dirge=2E=2E=2E but n=
ot =20
as bad as Steps=2E For me it is the worst Album Yello have ever produced =20=
=20
and I have only managed to get through the whole album 2 or 3 times, To =20
The Sea is good but not classic Yello=2E My favourite Yello album in case=20=
=20
anyone cares is One Second which is worth a thousand of Pocket =20
Universe's=2E
So James you are not alone in your sarcastic anhiliation of Yellos last =20
attempt at music=2E But don't listen to Steps under any circumstances, =20
this is a health warning and for your own good, trust me=2E
It would be interesting to hear other peoples thoughts on Pocket =20
Universe=2E Is it Yellos worst album?
Nat
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:16:20 GMT
From: "Andy Jackson" <a.z.jackson@dundee.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: (yello) Madonna etc.
> It would be interesting to hear other peoples thoughts on Pocket
> Universe. Is it Yellos worst album?
I think 'least best' is better than 'worst'. It has good moments on
it...'On Track' is excellent and anything with Stine Nordenstamm's
considerable talent on is worth a listen. I like it least of all the
Yello LPs but I like it more than many other 'Techno Classics'.
My favourite Yello LP is one made up of all my favourite tracks from
the various LPs...oh, go on then, I'll plump for 'You Gotta Say Yes'.
Andy Jackson
: a n d r e w * j a c k s o n :
: l i b r a r i a n :
: s c h o o l * o f * n u r s i n g * a n d * m i d w i f e r y :
: u n i v e r s i t y * o f * d u n d e e :
: d u n d e e * d d 1 * 9 s y :
: t e l * 0 1 3 8 2 * 6 3 2 0 1 2 :
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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 06:46:14 PST
From: "Simon Hume" <simonc_hume@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: (yello) Madonna etc.
I agree with Andy that Pocket Universe is the least best of all the
Yello albums. However, i have to say i've been playing it a bit
recently on the CD-ROM Drive of my PC when working. Considering i
though it was utter rubbish when i first bought it, my views have
changed after playing it quite a bit.
I tend to think of Pocket Universe as;
a) Yello's attempts at being a Techno band, either seriously or
non-seriously.I like to think they recorded it as a piss-take of the
Techno genre
b) The result of Yello being a bit bored one day, going into the studio
and knocking something out as quickly as possible before further boredom
set in.
Although i have got to like Pocket Universe quite a bit, it is in no way
classic Yello. I am still undecided as to whether One Second or Stella
is classic Yello. Forced to make a choice it would be One Second.
However, poor though Pocket Universe is, it's still a hell of a lot
better than stuff such as the UNKLE album, that has been raved about,
but in my opinion is complete rubbish (I'm sure that comment may cause
some replies to wing their way my way).
My view is that Yello made Pocket Universe as a stop gap for the next
album which, given the length of time they take to record, should be
with us in the next Millenium and will probably be a real stonker.
Regards
Simon Hume
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:31:00 +0000
From: James.Gillett@iceland.co.uk
Subject: (yello) The Next Yello Album
What was cool about PU was that Boris just let himself go and created
some spontaneous music. I hope their
next album is more spontaneous again. If it's one progression you can count
on - it's that their albums become less
'stuffy' (if I can use such a term).
James
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:31:16 +0000
From: Nathan Lloyd <nathan.lloyd@virgin.co.uk>
Subject: RE: (yello) Madonna UNKLE (etc..)
Pocket Universe is tosh=2E Whatever Yello were attempting to achieve they=20=
=20
only achieve in making a very bad album=2E Even Baby which I would rate as=
=20
quite a poor album had its highlights, such as On the Run and Homage To =20
The Mountain and to some extremes even Jungle Bill=2E
I enjoyed the UNKLE album although again very patchy=2E I don't think you=20=
=20
can compare DJ Shadow and Yello in the same context=2E The Unkle album was=
=20
something very very experimental and works on certain levels but not on =20
all=2E The Pocket Universe album didn't work on any levels at all and in =20=
=20
places sounded like 2unlimited on Acid, harsh but fair=2E#
I agree with Simon that hopefully Pocket was a stop gap for future =20
brillance to come=2E Lets hope so=2E
Nat =20
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:12:20 +0200
From: Juhana K Kouhia <kouhia@nic.funet.fi>
Subject: Re: (yello) Madonna UNKLE (etc..)
>Pocket Universe is tosh. Whatever Yello were attempting to achieve they
>only achieve in making a very bad album.
I like it. The complexity of mixes is quite marvelous and there are
quite a lot of fancy sounds plus more (remember that tennis ball in
Pan Blue and "Yelloooo-oooo-ooo-ooo" (sung as arabic voice) in Monolith).
PU gives much if you're interested in music making, techno music making
and sound hacking.
Attitude of the songs feels a bit gothic, though.
Yours,
Juhana
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:23:34 +0000
From: Nathan Lloyd <nathan.lloyd@virgin.co.uk>
Subject: RE: (yello) Madonna UNKLE (etc..)
[Nathan Lloyd] To listen to though from a pure enjoyment angle its still =20=
=20
utter pants=2E=2E=2E
Sorry=2E=2E=2E
Nat =20
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Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 00:10:19 +0100
From: "Daniel Svensson" <daniel.svensson@perstorp.mail.telia.com>
Subject: (yello) Pocket Universe rocks!!!!
Hey stop all the shit chat about Pocket Universe I think it=B4s one of th=
e
best albums. The worst is no doubt Claro Que S=ED. But that is of course =
a
matter of opinion.
Daniel Svensson
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:56:52 -0500
From: "Gene Tsygan" <Gene.Tsygan@gallaudet.edu>
Subject: Re: (yello) A unique listening experience
Thanks, Travis! This was a very pleasant reading. Reminded me of somebody
(you?) who posted similar essay on "Blender" several months or may be even a
year ago. Unfortunately I lost that posting. If anybody still have it,
please, repost.
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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 19:39:51 +0100
From: Roger Schweizer <rosch@swissworld.com>
Subject: (yello) Re: Pocked Universe rocks!!!!!
Hi all
I think the best yello album is Claro Que Si !!!!!
Pocked Universe is ok.
greeting
Roger
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:44:58 EST
From: ARWales@aol.com
Subject: Re: (yello) Pocket Universe rocks!!!!
In a message dated 09/11/98 17:51:38 GMT, you write:
<< Hey stop all the shit chat about Pocket Universe I think it=B4s one of =
the
best albums. The worst is no doubt Claro Que S=ED. But that is of course =
a
matter of opinion.
Daniel Svensson >>
I totally and utterly agree..... except of course for your comment about
"Claro Que Si". I actually thought "PU" was something of a return to form
after "Zebra". Somebody else made a comment about "Baby".... well again I
would strongly disagree.
I do find it strange that the participants in this are so obsessive about
Yello on the one hand (from what I can remember from previous corresponden=
ce)
ie wanting to acquire every single re-mix of every single track going, or
trying to ascertain what exactly is being sung on a particular track - whe=
n
they then profess not to like the music that much !?!
UNKLE was OK but was overrated (nice packaging though !!).
This year in the "electronic" field I thought Moloko "I am not a Doctor",
Faithless "Sunday 8pm" and Schneider TM "Moist" were pretty good for start=
ers.
Sod Madonna....................
Andrew Wales
ARWales@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 15:05:23 -0800
From: Vinnie <v.coulman@virgin.net>
Subject: (yello) Re: yello-digest V2 #85
Hi everyone,
I've been lurking a while but this is my first contribution to the
digest (where would I find the newsreader?). My name's Vinnie and I run
a large Residents website but am also a big Yello fan too (as "Solid
Pleasure" originally appeared on The Residents' Ralph label I've being
into them for a while). As a UK fan I get pissed off that singles like
"To The Sea" and "On Track" aren't properly released here, especially as
I consider "Pocket Universe" to be their best album since "One Second",
still, that's record companies for you.
> Well, I thought there would be frivolous excitement and discussion
> about the forthcoming album.. But there you go....
Not if it's a remix album. I'm fed up of hearing constant retreads of
"The Race". It's 10 years old now and, judging by all the films and ads
it pops up in, it seems to be the track which has pigeonholed the band
to a dangerous degree. I was so happy to hear all the 80's style brass
and rhythm guitar dropped for "PU", this is the way forward! Leave those
old tracks alone now (wonderful as they were at the time).
> By the way, don't expect the "mystery" album
> before February next year. I will give you all the
> details before it's out (unless Roger is faster).
Ooh, now this sounds more like it...
> From: tmetro@vl.com (Tom Metro)
> I was thinking along these lines when I was recently listening to
> "To The Sea" and noticing how simplistic the music sounded in
> comparison to other Yello tracks. (A comparison to a Madonna track
> would not be unreasonable, though even Madonna, with help from
> William Orbit, is getting more complex.) It wouldn't hold up well as
> an instrumental. This would be my guess as to why fans of Yello-past
> haven't been too excited over "To The Sea."
Hi Tom, I have to disagree there. I think tracks like "To The Sea" and
"Magnetic" are prime Yello. If anything they are more complex, deep,
mysterious and shiver inducing. Personally I've always liked the more
classy "serious" side of Yello rather than the "Bananas To The Beat" /
"Oh Yeah" kind of stuff, so I really love most of the "PU" album. To be
honest I really despaired over "Zebra". I thought that they really
couldn't carry on in the same direction after that and I was so glad
when they didn't. They shouldn't need all these remixers, they always do
it better themselves. I would like to go for a night out and hear pure
Yello being played again in the big clubs.
> From: "Shane Foss" <sfoss@computersolutions.com>
> Subject: (yello) Madonna Poket Universe William Orbit
> With the Help of William Orbit, Madonnas Most Recent Offering "Ray of Light"
> Was EPIC Compared To Pocket Universe.
> Only Opinion. Sure I'll Catch Hell......
Pah! ;)
> From: James.Gillett@iceland.co.uk
> Subject: (yello) Madonna etc.
>
> In addition to the comment about the Madonna album, I must say that the new
> album by the UK pop-combo 'Steps'
> certainly does put 'Pocket Universe' in the shade. Well worth a listen.
Double pah!! Heh heh.. I would recommend the fabulous Robson and Jerome.
Deiter and Boris can only aspire to their dizzy heights of pop
sophistication and futuristic sound manipulation.
Sorry for ranting on,
cheers all,
Vinnie
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:49:45 -0800
From: "Garrett McGowan" <gmcgowan@telebyte.com>
Subject: (yello) Yello do techno
I wouldn't go as far to say it's their worst album, but it doesn't really
stand apart from the crowd. I think part of the reason for this is that
there's quite a bit of good electronica being released these days. Yello
used to have the field almost entirely to themselves. If anything, Pocket
Universe is a blending of current electronica trends with the musical skills
of Yello. If I was disappointed, it was because they didn't try to do
something *different* from the rest of the field. Still enjoyable music,
still
Yello, but not innovative.
Garrett
>>[Nathan Lloyd] James
>>
>>I to think that Pocket Universe is complete and utter dirge... but not
>>as bad as Steps. For me it is the worst Album Yello have ever produced
>>and I have only managed to get through the whole album 2 or 3 times, To
>>The Sea is good but not classic Yello. My favourite Yello album in case
>>anyone cares is One Second which is worth a thousand of Pocket
>>Universe's.
>>
>>So James you are not alone in your sarcastic anhiliation of Yellos last
>>attempt at music. But don't listen to Steps under any circumstances,
>>this is a health warning and for your own good, trust me.
>>
>>It would be interesting to hear other peoples thoughts on Pocket
>>Universe. Is it Yellos worst album?
>>
>>Nat
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:25:35 +0100
From: Eric.Schader@gambro.com
Subject: RE: (yello) Madonna etc.
> It would be interesting to hear other peoples thoughts on Pocket
> Universe. Is it Yellos worst album?
>
Polls held on this list in the past ranks it among the best.
It's also my personal favourite along with Stella.
Kindest regards
Eric
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:30:00 -0600
From: "Shane Foss" <sfoss@computersolutions.com>
Subject: (yello) Pocket Universe and Dirge.....
Pocket Universe was Certainly a Dissapointment. Looking Forward to Better
Days..
If I Want Techno, I'll Pop in The Shamen. If I Want
Original\EPIC\Complex\Untouchable\Style, I'll Pop-In Some Classic
Yello.....(PU is Not Classic)
Thanks,
Shane
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:06:09 -0600
From: "Shane Foss" <sfoss@computersolutions.com>
Subject: (yello) Claro Cue Si
Gotta Love People, and Their Musical Taste. Ya Meet a Group of Yello
Freaks from Hell, and the Variety of Taste in That Small Group is Vast and
Wild....
By-the-Way Claro Cue Si is My Favorite Yello Album with Baby a Close
Second and One Second a Close Third.
PU Didn't Rate......
Shane
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Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 02:34:17 +0100
From: "Daniel Svensson" <daniel.svensson@perstorp.mail.telia.com>
Subject: (yello) Pocket Universe stands out
I totally disagree with the people who are saying that Pocket Universe
should be some kind of mainstream. Totally nonsense. Listen to the lyrics,
we are not talking 2 unlimited here. There is so much more to the music made
by Yello, than other artists can produce. I think Boris is so independent
and has his own musical ideas. He stands out. The only song that sounds
mainstream to me made by Yello is the "Suite 904 alternative vocal". But
that is also a very good track. Listening to Pocket Universe gives me the
visual visions just like all the Yello records.
Daniel Svensson
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:11:58 +0200
From: Michael Weintroub <mwg@dircon.co.uk>
Subject: (yello) Yello / Madonna / Steps / Remix
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Greetings fellow fans,
Rocket wrote:
>With the Help of William Orbit, Madonnas Most Recent Offering "Ray of Light"
>Was EPIC Compared To Pocket Universe.
I agree that 'Ray of Light' was epic. Her best album so far!
Can't agree with your comparison to 'Pocket Universe'.
I bought both albums on the same day and while Madonna's
grabbed me straight away, Pocket Universe has grown in
my estimation with each playing. I know it's very different to
previous Yello albums, but all groups have to experiment and get
into new areas. What next I wonder? Chamber Music Techno?
And James wrote:
>In addition to the comment about the Madonna album, I must say that the new
>album by the UK pop-combo 'Steps'
>certainly does put 'Pocket Universe' in the shade. Well worth a listen. : -)
This sounds interesting. A pop-combo putting Yello in the shade!
How can that be? I've gotta hear that!
And I'm really pleased that there's a remix album on the way.
I'm not as fanatical as others on this list about all the multitude
of remixes there seems to be around. I find it totally confusing and
to be honest, boring. At least now I can sample some on ONE album.
Can someone explain to me the reason for all these remixes and why there.
are so many? Are they just not satified with what was done originally?
Move....... Dance........ Be Born
Mike
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<FONT SIZE="2">Greetings fellow fans,<BR>
<BR>
Rocket wrote:<BR>
>With the Help of William Orbit, Madonnas Most Recent Offering "Ray of Light"<BR>
>Was EPIC Compared To Pocket Universe.<BR>
<BR>
I agree that 'Ray of Light' was epic. Her best album so far!<BR>
Can't agree with your comparison to 'Pocket Universe'.<BR>
I bought both albums on the same day and while Madonna's<BR>
grabbed me straight away, Pocket Universe has grown in<BR>
my estimation with each playing. I know it's very different to<BR>
previous Yello albums, but all groups have to experiment and get<BR>
into new areas. What next I wonder? Chamber Music Techno?<BR>
<BR>
And James wrote:<BR>
>In addition to the comment about the Madonna album, I must say that the new<BR>
>album by the UK pop-combo 'Steps'<BR>
>certainly does put 'Pocket Universe' in the shade. Well worth a listen. : -)<BR>
<BR>
This sounds interesting. A pop-combo putting Yello in the shade!<BR>
How can that be? I've gotta hear that!<BR>
<BR>
And I'm really pleased that there's a remix album on the way.<BR>
I'm not as fanatical as others on this list about all the multitude<BR>
of remixes there seems to be around. I find it totally confusing and<BR>
to be honest, boring. At least now I can sample some on ONE album.<BR>
Can someone explain to me the reason for all these remixes and why there. <BR>
are so many? Are they just not satified with what was done originally?<BR>
<BR>
Move....... Dance........ Be Born<BR>
Mike
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:45:36 +0100
From: Kjetil Aakra <kjetil.akra@zmb.uib.no>
Subject: (yello) Pocket Universe Rocks for sure
I just have to come to the defence of Pocket Universe. I love the album, in
fact I have it on right now listening to my favourite tune, "More"!
A strange thing happened to me concerning this album. At first I didn't like
it at all, I thought most of the songs were too similar and it lacked high
points. But then something strange happened. After a few hearings I suddenly
discovered a lot of diferent sounds and melodies that I just couldn't get
out of my head. Now I simply have to listen to it once a day, at least. Some
of the tracks are among the most atmospheric Yello has made, in my opinion,
especially "Monolith and "Celsius"". Sorry for going on about this, but PU
was such a nice surprise to me when I discovered its secrets.
Kjetil
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:55:10 EST
From: FGriego@aol.com
Subject: (yello) I'm wit Vinny
Interesting angle Vin, pah's & all.
I happen to be old school Yello yet my favorite album is the next one.
Can I do that?
Other folks I find making interesting sounds: Bang on a Can, V.A.S.T., &
Michael Brook
Regards
FG
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:00:45 +0000
From: James.Gillett@iceland.co.uk
Subject: (yello) Yello : The Next Generation
First of all I'd like to explain to you all about the British pop-combo
'Steps.' Anyone who is
aquainted with them might, have suspected that I was kind of jesting. I
have to admit that I was - even though
I quite liked their first single. I was quite shocked by how many people
thought I was being deadly serious.
If we are laying our cards on the table; I have to say that the older the
Yello albums are - the worse they are.
There must be a reason why I listen to 'Pocket Universe' more often than I
do 'Claro Que Si.'. Infact I cannot remember
when I last listened to any of their early stuff.
"Yello's past is in the future" we musn't forget - and I believe that at
the heart of Yello - is the acceptance of "newness" and
change. In this day and age where it very easy to be cynical and to grow
old "quickly," Yello continue to lay down the challenge to everyone who
listens to them... 'Can you drop your ego - and admit you're wrong?'......
The tough thing for Yello to acheive is to not only be modern and relevant;
but not to be disposable and condemned to the
bin of one-hit-wonders. I'd love to have discussions about how Yello ties
in with evolutionary psychology but there has to be
much more to Yello for them to last this long at the arse-end of the 20th
Century.
James
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 98 21:14:29 +1100
From: Mark Pulley <mrpulley@ix.net.au>
Subject: Re: (yello) Madonna UNKLE (etc..)
>Subject: Re: (yello) Madonna UNKLE (etc..)
>Sent: 10/11/98 4:12 AM
>Received: 10/11/98 8:18 PM
>From: Juhana K Kouhia, kouhia@nic.funet.fi
>To: Yello, Yello@xmission.com
>>Pocket Universe is tosh. Whatever Yello were attempting to achieve they
>>only achieve in making a very bad album.
>I like it. The complexity of mixes is quite marvelous and there are
>quite a lot of fancy sounds plus more (remember that tennis ball in
>Pan Blue
>and "Yelloooo-oooo-ooo-ooo" (sung as arabic voice) in Monolith).
...which was also heard in U2's 'Numb'.
I'll have to say it does sound like 'Yello', but I suspect it probably
isn't.
Mark
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:15:35 +0000
From: James.Gillett@iceland.co.uk
Subject: (yello) The Yello Act Section 1.1 November 1998
I would like to say that no one is allowed to call Pocket Universe rubbish.
I totally disagree with people who
say it is. I also totally disagree with people who don't allow people to
disagree with them. This is not allowed -
as stated under the newly created Yello Act. (By me)
James
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:09:49 +0100
From: "The SunSinner" <ogoorden@bigfoot.com>
Subject: (yello) Pocket Universe #1 !!!
Hoi!
Pocket Universe is an incredible gathering of arranged sounds,
taking me into a totally new dimension when it comes to Yello
aswell as when it comes to Techno. The only thing 'wrong' with the
album is that I want to hear all the tracks in a row if I play it. For
me it's not an album I'll pick some tracks from for just a quick
listen (something I can do with the other Yello-albums). So I don't
hear it that often.
If you listen to it, you can impossibly deny that the sound carries
specific Yello-vibrations in it (aswell as the compositions). It is
most deffinitely not a techno-album as I know it (and as a
DJ/Musician I own really a lot of those). It's techno-influenced Yello
the same as there are tracks with latin-influences and jazz-
influences and so on.
I think they could (and should have) even have taken it a step
further, whithout destroying their own identity. Hope they'll try some
experiment in that direction one day.
They're new to the field of house-music, so naturally they'll have to
learn and expand. It would be too bad to see a superskilled artist
like Boris not using the opportunity to grasp all styles of music at
hand and melt them into Yello giving me the chance to experience
a more holistic feeling of energy and life.
Fortunately he chooses to keep experimenting and surprising me
with one astonishing product after another (if I don't die of old age in
between albums ;o) ).
Yello has always evolved, so why should it stop now...
Groeven,
Olaf.
P.S. The ftp is comming back up soon I hope (different structure).
Due to some virusses being planted on my pc through the net
I first have to find a non-NT sollution (maybe a firewall, anyone
any experience with that?).
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:02:42 +0000
From: Nathan Lloyd <nathan.lloyd@virgin.co.uk>
Subject: FW: (yello) The Yello Act Section 4(b)
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:43:25 +0100
From: "Daniel Svensson" <daniel.svensson@perstorp.mail.telia.com>
Subject: (yello) http://www.totalrecall.de/artists/49.htm
I hope you have seen this page
http://www.totalrecall.de/artists/49.htm
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 06:40:56 +0500
From: "Serge Shakhov" <shakhov@mmk.ru>
Subject: (yello) PU: my opinion
Hello
Nathan Lloyd <nathan.lloyd@virgin.co.uk> writes
> For me it is the worst Album Yello have ever produced
> It would be interesting to hear other peoples thoughts on Pocket
> Universe. Is it Yellos worst album?
No, no and no!
I think PU is good as well as One Second or Stella concerning a melody,
but many times better concerning energy of music.
Eventually it's a question of taste. I like PU, you don't - but you and
me
likes YeLLo, isn't it ?
Serge Shakhov
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 06:57:46 +0500
From: "Serge Shakhov" <shakhov@mmk.ru>
Subject: (yello) PU sounds (etc..)
Hello
Juhana K Kouhia <kouhia@nic.funet.fi> writes
>I like it. The complexity of mixes is quite marvelous and there are
>quite a lot of fancy sounds plus more (remember that tennis ball in
>Pan Blue and "Yelloooo-oooo-ooo-ooo" (sung as arabic voice) in Monolith).
And what do you think about voice of russian priest at divine service
in Monolith ?
Serge Shakhov
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 07:58:22 +0500
From: "Serge Shakhov" <shakhov@mmk.ru>
Subject: Re: (yello) Madonna UNKLE (etc..)
Hello
Mark Pulley <mrpulley@ix.net.au> writes
>>and "Yelloooo-oooo-ooo-ooo" (sung as arabic voice) in Monolith).
>
>....which was also heard in U2's 'Numb'.
>I'll have to say it does sound like 'Yello', but I suspect it probably
>isn't.
The same to the voice in "Perfect gentleman" by Helloween. Interest,
isn't it ?
Serge Shakhov
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:06:28 GMT/BST
From: nic <nic@python.demon.co.uk>
Subject: (yello) Pocket Universe (again!)
I'm currently in the process of choosing a new pair of speakers, and I'm
making a 'significant' investment (more than most folks monthly salary).
Pocket Universe was a definite choice to use to audition speakers, as is
80-85 new mix in one go. (Also some Pat Metheny, Jools Holland, All About
Eve, Genesis, Pink Floyd).
Pocket Universe, is for my money, one of the best recorded pieces of
music around, love it or hate it. Personally I love it. When it comes to
audio equipment, it sorts the men from the boys, or women from the girls.
The sheer complexity in the layering of sounds is so demanding, the "in
yer face" rhythm and riffs, with atmospherics and incidentals virtually
anywhere in the sound stage push audio equipment to the limits. The
dynamic range, and the frequency range of that album is astonishing.
I've heard the album on (big) studio monitors that are flat down to 15
Hz, when Dieter talks about ultimate bass, he means it! I cannot think of
any techno track (believe me, I've heard / collected a lot!) that comes
anywhere near close to what Yello have achieved in this album.
For me, P.U. has gone beyond producing sounds that are capable of being
reproduced on average equipment. I've been flamed before on this list for
making such statements, but I know what I hear when I listen to that
album. I've not even begun to discuss what imagery is in my minds ear,
even discounting the total concept of the album and lyrics. Pocket
Universe is a landmark in the music world, not just in Yello's
repertoire.
One exception, "To the sea" is a little out of place, both where it is on
the album, and in general with respect to the album. Nothing wrong in the
track itself, I just don't feel it quite belongs there. I suspect its
purpose is the commercial single to launch the album, but it's just my
opinion, and I am speculating. If I can try to explain, the rest of the
album is like a wide open space, and T.T.S. feels like it has boundaries.
Perhaps it's an intentional interlude, and I can see it's overall
relevance, I just think it's out of place.
Even the 80-85 mix in one go, 13 years on the full stereo image is only
revealed on worthy equipment, hence Yello is always in my audition pile.
Oddly enough, one of the assistants in the shop wanted to know what it
was I was listening to, so I showed her the cover. She knew of Yello but
not of this album (PU), so it suggests to me that Yello's marketing in
this country (UK) could do with a bit of an overhaul!
Anyway, I've made my selections, I'm in the demonstration rooms later
this week for more serious listening. Music is very subjective, this is
my opinion on the album, and why I'm using it to choose audio equipment.
I like P.U., I feel it's a natural progression for Yello, and I think the
next album will build on this one. Inside the music, it is still Yello,
and always will be.
Sorry for the long posting, but music is my passion, and Yello, well what
more need I say?
Regards to all
Nic
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:43:29 +0000
From: James.Gillett@iceland.co.uk
Subject: (yello) Pocket Universe
>>>> Personally I love it. When it comes to
audio equipment, it sorts the men from the boys, or women from the girls.
Yes, I think if you don't like 'Pocket Universe' you really are big girl.
(James runs for cover under the nearest rock, and lays sandbags all
around...)
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:18:27 +0100
From: "Daniel Svensson" <daniel.svensson@perstorp.mail.telia.com>
Subject: SV: (yello) PU sounds (etc..)
>
>Hello
>
>Juhana K Kouhia <kouhia@nic.funet.fi> writes
>
>
>>I like it. The complexity of mixes is quite marvelous and there are
>>quite a lot of fancy sounds plus more (remember that tennis ball in
>>Pan Blue and "Yelloooo-oooo-ooo-ooo" (sung as arabic voice) in Monolith=
).
>
I can=B4t hear any tennis ball in Pan Blue. My favorite part on the recor=
d is
when "Monolith" tunes out into to the sea.
> And what do you think about voice of russian priest at divine servi=
ce
>in Monolith ?
Yeah the priest is an experience very cinematic music.
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