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From: yello-owner@xmission.com
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Subject: yello Digest V2 #5
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yello Digest Sunday, 5 January 1997 Volume 02 : Number 005
In this issue:
(yello) Cuba Libre
(yello) Re: New Year/New Yello Discog/Old Yello Club
(yello) Tremendous Pain ep
Re: (yello) Tremendous Pain ep
Re: (yello) Tremendous Pain ep
(yello) How How/Tremendous Pain
(yello) Re: Yello Club/misc
(yello) Re: Tremendous Pain ep
(yello) Re: yello in ireland
Re: (yello) New Year/New Yello Discog/Old Yello Club
(yello) YELLO
(yello) Stella tidbit
(yello) Re: Yello Club/misc
(yello) Re: YELLO
(yello) Yello Discography for Germany completed!/Yello detectives wanted!
(yello) stella tidbit II
(yello) pocket univers at the IMAX in Munich
(yello) Even more lists on my Yello page.../Art of Noise Yebo CDM, any?
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From: Count Fontclaire <dan@portsoft.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 10:13:29 -0800
Subject: (yello) Cuba Libre
Well, last night I played one of my housemates some Yello and asked him my
"genre question," and he said it was Cuban music that I'm after... He
recommended a few bandleaders (Prima, Prado, Cachao, Machito--not sure if
I've got the spelling right). Anyone knowledgable?
Thnx,
Dan
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From: Juhana K Kouhia <kouhia@nic.funet.fi>
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 20:29:31 +0200
Subject: (yello) Re: New Year/New Yello Discog/Old Yello Club
First, there are Yello fans who are not in the network.
Second, we don't have connections to record companies in order
to get rare promo material to real Yello fans. We could maintain
Yello pages for free if they will offer us the needed contacts.
Third, we have to rely on poor record shops in order to get our
Yello material.
We could try to improve the activities of this mailing list.
I suggest we try to get direct contacts to Yello and in return
maintain their web-page for free. I think Jonas is perfect contact
person. Please make an offer for them.
I think maintaining their web-page is a good start. If they are
cooperative, we might start a real Yello Club someday. How about
a Yello Newsletter in the first place?
Ok, everybody are making discographies these days: Lazlo, a person in
Finland, Jonas, and even I have Yello Songs listing based on Lazlo's
official discography. Perhaps we could make just one discography
which satisfies all of us?
Juhana
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From: Count Fontclaire <dan@portsoft.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 11:37:59 -0800
Subject: (yello) Tremendous Pain ep
There's a record store around here that carries the "Tremendous Pain" CD
single and one or two of the "How How" remix 12"s. I remember reading
somewhere here about how one or the other of these is not very good, or that
they were not remixed by Yello, or something. I generally prefer their own
remixes to those of others (I think "Hands on Yello" is kind of boring,
actually)... Should I check out either of these?
thx,
Dan
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From: "Mr. Zombiefied" <pslock@nmia.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 13:41:46 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: (yello) Tremendous Pain ep
Actually..both of those CD's have non-Yellow remixes on them, but I've
heard that Tremendous Pain is the worse of the 2.
- -----------------
pslock@nmia.com
On Tue, 31 Dec 1996, Count Fontclaire wrote:
> There's a record store around here that carries the "Tremendous Pain" CD
> single and one or two of the "How How" remix 12"s. I remember reading
> somewhere here about how one or the other of these is not very good, or that
> they were not remixed by Yello, or something. I generally prefer their own
> remixes to those of others (I think "Hands on Yello" is kind of boring,
> actually)... Should I check out either of these?
>
> thx,
> Dan
>
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From: FGriego@aol.com
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 18:53:48 -0500
Subject: Re: (yello) Tremendous Pain ep
I guess I'll add my two cents worth on this issue. First, you ought to buy
both so you're not disappointed.
I have two of the How How (#2 & #3) and prefer the Fluke mixes over the
Plutones. Sort of has an AmerIndian feel to it and would come in handy at any
year-end peyote ceremony one might be attending. As far as the plutone mixes
go- they seem to be far less accessible or listener friendly when compared to
the other. Possibly of greater benefit sometime late in the aforementioned
ceremony.
As far as the Tremendous mixes go: I only have a few that someone sent me on
tape, the details are unknown as far as who mixed them, etc. I would have
called them "auctioneer mixes" based on the vocal loop that dominates the
tracks. There's a cheesier "old school" sounding mix on it as well. If any
U.S. fans are familiar with a sports talk show host named Furrel, it would be
an ideal theme song or bumper track as he also does a run-on verbally that
sounds a lot like this.
I wouldn't mind someday opening up my annual Golmine fan club edition and
seeing a Yello entry. Why not?
Happy New Year,
Fred
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From: "Jonas Warstad" <jonwar@algonet.se>
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 10:11:56 +0100
Subject: (yello) How How/Tremendous Pain
As usual, for Yello's own original versions,
always refer to my non-album list. It lists
*every* track or version that Yello themselves
made.
Here's a guide to How How remixes anyway:
The Fluke Mixes are actually quite OK, not too
different from the Yello sound. Normally I
really detest DJ/re-mixes, but this time it's
OK. The only problem is that all Fluke
mixes sound the same. But remember that Yello
have absolutely *nothing* to do with these mixes.
The Plutone Mixes are crap. Only for completists.
Tremendous Pain: Yello made their own mixes
on this one, so if you want their own mixes, go
on and buy it. There are also some non-Yello
mixes on it (German: 2 mixes; US: 2 mixes).
Mind you: if you've heard one Yello remix, you've
heard them all: their Tremendous mixes are very
sound-alike, just like on the Jungle Bill single. It's
their most "techno" so far, and probably not very
enjoyable unless you love hard core techno.
Finally, like I said, I have details on all of Yello's
own mixes on my Yello page.
Regards,
Jonas Warstad
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From: "Jonas Warstad" <jonwar@algonet.se>
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 10:51:36 +0100
Subject: (yello) Re: Yello Club/misc
> We could try to improve the activities of this mailing list.
> I suggest we try to get direct contacts to Yello and in return
> maintain their web-page for free. I think Jonas is perfect contact
> person. Please make an offer for them.
Thanks for your confidence. Believe me, I have probably written
more letters and made more phone calls to Yello management
and to Mercury Records in Hamburg, than any other fan! I have
made more suggestions that you could ever imagine, and asked
even more questions. The result? Well, so-so. One person, who
is the most knowledgeable person, working directly with Yello,
has told me that Boris agrees on a long interview for a book.
Which is not bad. And when I asked the boss of Mercury if and
when all "rare" Yello tracks will be released (I phoned him in
Spring 1996), he told me that their priority now is the new LP
which was scheduled for release in May 1996! He also told
me that Yello are "always late", but he did so without any
criticism in his tone of voice, implying that he and Yello had
by now reached a point were they were even joking about it.
When I asked if Mercury had any intention of releasing B-sides,
12" mixes etc, he told me it was only a matter of negotiation,
meaning that Mercury was open to my suggestion, but that
they had to get an approval from Yello themselves first.
I also asked Mercury for any information they had on Yello,
and I was told that all info was stored in computers, and that
they would send it to me. Nothing happened so far..... :(
I still haven't heard from Yello about my interview, either. :(
I keep getting the reply that Boris is "almost finished" with his
new album, and that they will phone me very soon....
Conclusion: I would be delighted to maintain their official page,
but why should they let me? It's probably easier for them to
let a hired pro do the job for them, a German/Swiss one that they
could contact easily for updates. Money is no problem for Yello.
Having said all this, I will of course suggest all these things
to Yello when (IF!) I get my interview. But I'm certain that they
will update their page for the coming album.
> Ok, everybody are making discographies these days: Lazlo, a person in
> Finland, Jonas, and even I have Yello Songs listing based on Lazlo's
> official discography. Perhaps we could make just one discography
> which satisfies all of us?
I guess not. We all have our own ideas of how it should be structured.
For example, I will not include promos, foreign countries, test pressings,
etcetera. Only Germany, UK and US. There are more differences, and
our discographies will complement each other. I want to make a discog
that's succint and precise, stressing the various mixes and durations.
And Lazlo's discography is not "official". Official means authorized in
this case, which it is not. No criticism, it's the most complete on the
net. (But not really updated) And one more thing: I don't think that the
other discogs are merely "based on Lazlo's official discography".
I made my own researches based on my own records and information,
and I believe that the other persons also did their own researches.
OK, that's all for now. I hope that we will soon see the new album,
and that more acticity will follow: discussions, singles, my interview,
plans for "rare" CDs, an updated Yello official page, etcetera!
Best,
Jonas Warstad
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From: Juhana K Kouhia <kouhia@nic.funet.fi>
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 12:39:13 +0200
Subject: (yello) Re: Tremendous Pain ep
Hi. Do buy this
CD5: 1994 GE (Mercury; 856143-2) ["1: The Originals"]
2:38 How How (single version)
5:54 How How (the premix)
3:30 Moon Dog
to get the Moon Dog; it is instrumental and item for true Yello fans only.
Forget Plutone and Fluke mixes -- is that the same Fluke who made the
recently discussed Atom Bomb song?
CD5: 1994 GE (Mercury; 856139-2) ["2: The Plutone Mixes"]
CD5: 1994 GE (Mercury; 856137-2) ["3: The Fluke Mixes"]
Buy this
CD5: 1994 GE (Mercury; 856141-2)
2:38 How How (single version)
5:54 How How (the premix)
5:32 Breaks, Beats & Loops - The How How Samples [see below]
to get the sound samples.
Do buy this
CD5: 1995 GE (Mercury; 856749-2)
3:59 Tremendous Pain (suite 904 single version)
6:39 Tremendous Pain (suite 904)
9:15 Tremendous Pain (bible mix)
6:54 Tremendous Pain (bobby d'ambrosio's house mix)
7:16 Tremendous Pain (steve mac's extended mix)
3:58 Tremendous Pain (album version)
to get three first songs in this CD single, they are Boris remixes.
All three songs are quite similar together but are very different
what is on Zebra. I like them. They are very techno, ravy. Nice TB303
type *vocal* bass instrument.
Be amazed how bad a third party remixes can be by listening to fourth
and fifth songs of that CD single!!
Buy this
CD5: 1995 US (4th & B'Way/Island/Mercury; 162-440608-2)
and this
12": 1995 US (4th & B'Way/Mercury; PR12-609-1) [promo; yellow vinyl]
to get
9:10 Tremendous Pain (suite 904 alternative vocal)
and
9:10 Tremendous Pain (suite 904 alternative instrumental)
respectively.
Juhana
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From: "Paul Treston" <treston@indigo.ie>
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 16:13:59 -0000
Subject: (yello) Re: yello in ireland
Anyone out there living in Ireland and is a fan of yello. I find it very
hard to get my hands on CD singles of yello, I can only usually find the
main stream CD singles like jungle bill and the "how how" 3 CD single
collection.
I would be very interested in purchasing a tremndous pain CD single, any
suggestions. Would I be able to order it in Virgin Megastore or even
perhaps HMV !!
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From: cliff@shell.ablecom.net (Cliff Tuel)
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 15:07:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: (yello) New Year/New Yello Discog/Old Yello Club
Jonas Warstad wrote:
|I know that there are alrady some Yello discogs
|on the net, but mine will be a little different...
How many are there? There's the one I started back in '88 or '89, which
Lazlo and I started, and he now maintains. If you've got different listings,
it'd be best to have all the info in one place. If you can't beat 'em, join
'em, as the saying goes! Not that I'm against variety, mind you...
Boy, the Net in '88, those were the days. 2:-)
- ---
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From: koval@ix.netcom.com
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 18:08:52 -0500
Subject: (yello) YELLO
Hi
I have to disagree with you on the how how mixes. I think the Fluke mixes
are very good it keeps the Yello nature in mix, and the plutone mixes are
very good also. But I can see if you dont like tekno you probably wont like
them. As far as the Tremendous pain I think that was Boris's greatest
accomplishment as far as the deep dance music is concerned.
I dont know if you noticed but in the "moondog" song Boris sampled the
probe sound in Star Treck with the whales. Julian
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From: FGriego@aol.com
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 18:15:04 -0500
Subject: (yello) Stella tidbit
I was looking through my files and found a neat item from the Stella press
kit that some of you may not have seen before. The page is titled "Deiter
Meier Interprets 'Stella' -Track by Track".
"Desire"- Night, alone amongst the crowd, the usual juant from one club to
another. From the heavy darkness of the last bar, out onto the street, in the
sunlight that bursts in you face, hurting your eyes and the heavy laughs at
all the craziness: the desire for everything. "Desire for the unknown eyes,
desire for the unknown name, I'm burning in the morning sun, I run and run.
The sun, blowing the moon away, lights me up for one more day. The streets
are naked in the morning sun, the night is behind me, I run and run."
[ footnote: it was during this period a penfriend of mine got an autograph
from Deiter at a bar in Austria]
"Vicious Games"- I've hurt you, and now that you're gone, I love you. Don't
ever come back, I don't ever want to hurt you again.
"Oh Yeah"- "The sun...beautiful, the moon...even more beautiful." The
fantastic naive beauty of the Southern Seas. the majestic King Tou Tou,
rolling his eyes, explains to the English Ambassador, who just arrived, about
the red sun that dives into the Pacific Ocean. How he waits for the moon
which will come to refresh him once again tonight!
"Desert Inn"- "It's crazy to enter the bar, it's crazy to see Baby, it's just
crazy." 650 miles past Sand Diego, across the deserts of Arizona and New
Mexico, in the cold night of the desert, the gas tank filled twice and even
that lost time, I enter the bar where Mona, the divine Mona, pretends for a
long time that she hasn't been waiting for me, then with Casablanca eyes,
asks if I had a smooth trip. My heart trembles like it used to, and I owe it
all to Mona.
"Stalakdrama"- The prisoner's scream liberates the rock, and the entie cave
trembles with this new freedom. Nino Rotta pulls a swan across the lake, and
the princess plays the trumpet for the first time.
dated 3/85 (I'll get to the others soon-promise)
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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <lazlo@swcp.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 23:19:29 -0700 (MST)
Subject: (yello) Re: Yello Club/misc
>> Perhaps we could make just one discography which satisfies all of us?
>
> I guess not. We all have our own ideas of how it should be structured.
> For example, I will not include promos, foreign countries, test
> pressings, etcetera. Only Germany, UK and US. There are more
> differences, and our discographies will complement each other. I want to
> make a discog that's succint and precise, stressing the various mixes
> and durations. And Lazlo's discography is not "official". Official
> means authorized in this case, which it is not. No criticism, it's the
> most complete on the net. (But not really updated)
I haven't updated the Yello discography since early this summer because I've
only received a small number of additions since the last update. If you have
information you think should be in there, Jonas, please feel free to
contribute it -- but there certainly aren't any offerings from you in the
queue.
As far as other discogs are concerned -- if other folks want to do their own,
that's fine by me as long as they don't simply steal mine and use it for their
own purposes . . . which has happened in the past, unfortunately. I don't
have any illusions about being able to please everybody.
- --
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From: Juhana K Kouhia <kouhia@nic.funet.fi>
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 20:07:40 +0200
Subject: (yello) Re: YELLO
Julian and all, I have not heard the Fluke and Plutone mixes of How How
at all. They just are third party remixes and I have heard too many
other third party remixes. Perhaps I'm missing something by not owning
those versions.
Perhaps I will look for that probe sound in Star Trek movies. If the sound
is just a sound made by whales, then it is available in many sound libraries.
Jonas could ask Boris if he himself steals sounds from others, right Jonas?
I agree with Cliff about discographies. I have already started to
write the Yello database from which various discographies could be
printed out. Contact to me if you want discuss about technical details.
Juhana
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From: "Jonas Warstad" <jonwar@algonet.se>
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:00:17 +0100
Subject: (yello) Yello Discography for Germany completed!/Yello detectives wanted!
Dear Yello fans!
May I present my new discography, which covers
all German releases. As I told you before, it's
succint and precise, and introduces a New Standard.
All tracks are scrutinized to the most minute detail
to get this New Standard, meaning that all releases
have very details information about track length and
versions. All tracks that are the same, also have a
standard duration, no matter what duration is given
on the cover. This clears any confusion. I determined
the durations by using the CD player clock (exactly
when the music stops).
For vinyl-only tracks/versions I didn't rely on the
durations given, but I clocked the tracks, all of them,
(having secured the 33rpm speed of course).
Next I will do the UK discog, then the US.
(So, Lazlo Nibble, you see now that this isn't a rip off
from your discog....)
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Yello detectives wanted:
******************************
I'm looking for three reliable Yello discography partners.
One for German releases, one for UK and one for US,
for "detective field work". I will maintain all my discogs
myself, but there are some things that I can't do from
where I live, mainly asking for release dates in your
record store, giving me tracks listings on some singles
(even I don't buy everything!).
You should be a serious Yello fan, preferably a collector
of both CD and vinyl, a Yello expert in your part of the
world, and generally on the ball. (Girls are welcome too!)
You will be specially mentioned in my discog, of course.
Honour, honour!
Sincerely,
Jonas Warstad
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From: FGriego@aol.com
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 15:31:39 -0500
Subject: (yello) stella tidbit II
This concludes "Dieter Meier intperprets 'Stella'- Track by Track" (see
digest for previous)
"Koladi-Ola" - Van Fletcher, after a mortal taxi ride in his shiney,
chome-covered Chevrolet, swerves into a gas station, his mind drugged with
the solitary Saturday blues, lets the gas overflow, and sets fire to his
Baby. The sky opens, two angels descend to earth and put things in order.
"Domingo"- "Domingo, you showed us just nothing like no one before."
Preachers in the desert, hell-bound Cerberus, mast climbers, mourners and the
Pope's son who also wants to become Pope, all let themselves be exalted and
damned by Domingo de Santa Clara, who entered the Wallenstein camp under a
false name, driving the officers of the superstitious Marshall crazy by
promising them prey and loot.
"Sometimes (Dr.Hirsch)"- "Sometimes I wish I could cry." Not being able to be
loved and hoping at least to know the sensation of pain. But even that is
refused to this poor heart of stone. This hunted man takes one plane after
the other, meeting friends in different cities...and talks...talks way too
much.
"Let Me Cry" "All these years I haven't seen you, love is still the same. Now
you must believe me, now I play my game. I know I left you when I loved you,
couldn't tell you why. Too sad the day, too sad for tears...let me cry."
"Ciel Ouvert"- Madame Pasquier calls the damned around her. An army of
helicopters circle down from the sky, like bees on the first days of early
summer, and under her orders form the choruses of tin and steel: where is the
Redemption, Madame?
"Angel No"- The angel protects the witch against herself, and attracts her
into the house of a crook who does not want to live in the drunkenness of her
beauty.
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From: FranzGall@aol.com
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 09:43:04 -0500
Subject: (yello) pocket univers at the IMAX in Munich
Hi,
Before I left my Munich home yesterday, I read in our local newspaper, the
Sueddeutsche Zeitung, an ad of the IMAX theatre in Munich, announcing
- YELLO pocket univers, magic music & more -
Unfortunately I am at the U.S. for a week now and cannot see the movie (?).
As soon as I am back, I hope to see it and will report to you a.s.a.p. Maybe
there is another Yello fan in the Munich area to check this out?
Please see http://members.aol.com/FranzGall/yello for a scan of the ad.
Please excuse the poor quality, I used my fax machine for scanning... You'll
see some sort of an alien, maybe this is the layout of the new CD?
Franz
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From: "Jonas Warstad" <jonwar@algonet.se>
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 23:23:22 +0100
Subject: (yello) Even more lists on my Yello page.../Art of Noise Yebo CDM, any?
For those who are interested, I have now
completed my "lists" - Albums/Singles/
B-sides/12" Mixes/Video Clips. Enjoy...
I will maybe make a DJ Remix list too later on,
but first a UK and US Discography.
- --------------------------------------------------------
Art of Noise: Yebo CD-Maxi. It's quite common
that Yello fans also like Art of Noise, and I just
want to tell you all that I'm looking for the Yebo!
CDM. Anyone for sale/swap out there?
Jonas Warstad
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