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utah-firearms-digest    Thursday, February 22 2001    Volume 02 : Number 206




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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 23:35:29 -0700
From: charles hardy <[e-mail]>
Subject: ALERT: Two important pro-gun hearings to attend

        HB 376 -- Concealed Weapon Permit Holders - Reciprocity hearing
        HB 345 -- Carrying a Firearm ("Vermont Carry")
        House Judiciary Committee Contact Info

There are two very important hearings on pro-gun bills that we need to
attend this coming week.  Please get this information to any pro-gun
individuals you know whether or not they are using email.

HB 376 -- Concealed Weapon Permit Holders - Reciprocity hearing

This Monday, February 19 (Presidents' Day), the House Judiciary Committee
will be hearing Rep. G. Donnelson's HB 376 -- Concealed Weapon Permit
Holders - Reciprocity bill in Room 223 at 4:00 pm.

This bill would do two things.  First, it would require the DPS to make
formal, annual requests of all States that issue concealed permits but do
not currently recognize Utah's permits to recognize our permits.  This
could well lead to an increase in the number of States that would accept
a Utah CCW permit as valid.  Second, the bill would recognize the CCW
permits of ALL other States that issue them as well as allowing residents
of any States that do not require a permit to carry concealed to do so
here without a permit.  (At this time, this only applies to residents of
Vermont.)  This would send a strong message to potential tourists that
Utah welcomes them and their CCW weapons thus making our streets safer
and increasing our tourist revenue.  :)

Room 223 is a small room.  Please arrive early to get a seat or even
guarantee that you can get into the room.  It would be great if the
gun-phobes had no seats at all when they arrived.

Again:
This Monday, February 19 at 4:00 pm.
Capital Room 223.

Whether you can attend or not, please contact Committee members over the
weekend.  Contact info, "cut and paste email addresses," and a sample
email that you are free to use if you'd like are at bottom of this email.
 If you use the cut and paste email addresses to send a single email to
all committee members, please use the blind carbon copy (bcc) field
rather than the "to" or "cc" address fields.  In such cases, I reccomend
you put your own email address in the "To" field and use a generic
salutory such as "Dear Honorable Representative:".

Please be polite but firm in letting these representatives know this is a
critical bill and will effect your future voting.  Despite what some
legislators like to claim, politely letting them know this information is
NOT a threat and should they suggest otherwise politely disagree and let
them know this bill is important to you.

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HB 345 -- Carrying a Firearm ("Vermont Carry")

Rep. Mike Thompson's HB 345 -- Carrying a Firearm (aka "Vermont Carry")
will likely be heard in committee sometime Wednesday, February 21.  Exact
committee, time and room will follow as soon as we know it.  Please do
everything in your power to attend this hearing whenever it takes place.


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House Judiciary Committee Contact Info

Rep. Glenn L. Way, Chair
Mailing Address: 348 South 1480 East, Spanish Fork, Utah 84660
 Phone: (home) 801-798-2295
[e-mail]

Rep. James A. Ferrin, Vice Chair
Mailing Address: 1373 South 740 East, Orem, Utah  84097
 Phone: (home) 801-224-6823 (office) 801-224-9867
[e-mail]

Rep. Patrice M. Arent
Mailing Address: 6281 South Havenbrook Circle Salt Lake City, Utah 84121
 Phone: (home) 801-272-1956 (office) 801-538-1650
 (fax) 801-538-9505
[e-mail]

Rep. Chad E. Bennion
Mailing Address: 5778  Sagewood Dr, Murray, Utah 84107
 Phone: (home) 801-281-1607  (office) 801-468-2876
 (fax) 801-288-2144
 [e-mail]

Rep. Ron Bigelow
Mailing Address: 4658 Water Wood Drive West Valley City, Utah 84120
Phone: (home) 801-968-4188
[e-mail]

Rep. Katherine M. Bryson
Mailing Address: 833 South 300 West, Orem, Utah 84058
Phone: (home) 801-226-2061
[e-mail]

Rep. Gary F. Cox
Mailing Address: 4468 Tidwell Street Kearns, Utah 84118-5233
Phone: (home) 801-967-9760 (office) 801-569-5216
[e-mail]

Rep. Greg J. Curtis
Mailing Address: P.O. Box 2084, Sandy, Utah 84091
Phone: (home) 801-943-3091 (office) 801-942-7464
[e-mail]

Rep. Scott Daniels
Mailing Address: 1171 Laird Avenue w Salt Lake City, Utah  84105
Phone: (home) 801-582-8080  (office) 801-583-0801
(fax) 801-583-0802
[e-mail]

Rep. Ben C. Ferry
Mailing Address: 905 North 6800 West Corinne, Utah 84037
Phone: (home & office) 435-744-2997 (fax) 435-744-2999
[e-mail]

Rep. Neal B. Hendrickson
Mailing Address: 3402 West 4100 South West Valley City, Utah 84119
Phone: (home) 801-969-8920
[e-mail]

Rep. Mike Thompson
Mailing Address: 1010 West 1420 North, Orem, Utah  84057
Phone: (home) 801-226-5032 (office) 801-223-9044
 [e-mail]

Rep. A. Lamont Tyler
Mailing Address: 3810 Eastwood Lane Salt Lake City, Utah 84109
Phone: (home) 801-272-1218 (office) 801-581-6920
(fax) 801-585-9291
[e-mail]

========cut and paste email addresses=============

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==========sample email===================

Subject:  Please support HB 376 -- "Concealed Weapon Permit Holders -
Reciprocity"

Dear Honorable Representative:

I'm writing to ask you to please support HB 376 -- "Concealed Weapon
Permit Holders - Reciprocity" that will be heard before the House
Judiciary Committee this Monday, February 19 and send it to the full
House favorably.  This bill would require the Dept. of Public Safety to
make annual inquires of other States seeking to gain their approval of
Utah's Concealed Weapon permits.  This would allow those Utahns who have
concealed weapons permits to travel with their legal weapons for
protection in those States.  Under this bill, Utah would also recognize
the concealed permits of all States that currently issue them, setting
out the welcome mat to law abiding residents of those States.

This bill is plain common sense.  State issued licenses to drive are
valid across State lines.  Law abiding residents of one State do not
become any less law abiding simply because they cross State lines.
Neither do reasons and needs to carry a concealed weapon disappear simply
by crossing State lines.  There is no good reason that State issued
permits to carry concealed weapons are not valid in other States.

This bill is very important to me.  Please let me know whether you plan
to support this bill and if not, what your objections are.

Sincerely

your name
your address
(optionally, your phone number)

===================================

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Charles Hardy
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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 22:02:36 -0700
From: charles hardy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fw: [UTGOA] REMINDER!  CONCEALED CARRY BILL MONDAY!

Please do everything possible to attend these hearings.

- ----------------
Charles Hardy
<[e-mail]>

- --------- Forwarded message ----------
An important reminder!

HB 376 - Concealed Carry Recognition will be heard MONDAY Feb. 19 at 4 PM

in Room 223.  It is VERY important that you plan to attend!  We expect a
very close vote, so your presence, phone calls and email are critical.

1. Please plan to attend the committee hearing.  The bill is first on the

agenda, so try to arrive no later than 3:45.

2. Dress appropriately.  Many legislators mistakenly believe that all gun

owners are drunks, wife-beaters, neo-Nazis, lunatics, terrorists, or
wanna-be criminals.  Whether this is a result of ignorance or bigotry,
it's
wrong.  But it's also a fact of life.  If you want legislators to believe

that you're the responsible, hard-working, law-abiding person you really
are, you're going to have to SHOW them.  This means being dressed and
groomed appropriately.  Dress as you would to go to church or a job
interview.  If you don't, you are hurting the cause of gun rights and
helping to perpetuate bigotry against your fellow gun owners.

3. If you wish to speak, plan your testimony in advance, and try to have
it
written out.  Most people get nervous and tongue-tied, especially when
there's a large crowd and TV cameras, and it helps if you have your
comments prepared.  You should plan on 1-2 minutes maximum. Also plan to
stick to the topic.  The topic is "why this bill is good public
policy".  The reasons HB 376 is good public policy are:
        a. It is fair.  People have just as much right to self-defense in
Utah as
they do in their home state.
        b. It will save lives.  When ordinary citizens carry concealed
firearms,
crime goes down.  This protects both Utahns and non-residents.
        c. By accepting other states' permits, more states will accept
Utah
permits.  This will benefit Utahns who travel to other states.
        d. It will save money, by decreasing BCI's workload.  It will
also save
money by decreasing crime and its associated costs.
        e. Just as Utah accepts drivers licenses and marriage licenses
from other
states, we should accept carry permits.

        Legislators are very practical people.  For the most part, they
will
support or oppose a bill based on its immediate, practical impact: "Will
it
save money, lower taxes, save lives, or make my constituents happy?  Will

my constituents be angry enough to vote against me if I vote against
it?"  They are generally less concerned (or unconcerned) with
Constitutional law and philosophy, the United Nations, the New World
Order,
Communism, foreign invasions, Hegelian dialectics, the Illuminati, and
various "conspiracy theories".

        Your job is to be a good salesperson, and sell legislators the
bill on
their own terms.  If you are trying to sell a car to a middle-aged woman,

it's not very smart to tell her that "Chicks love it."  If your customer
is
a single male college student, it's not very smart to tell him it will
easily hold 5 kids plus groceries.  This is only common sense.

        Be smart!  Talk to legislators about what matters to THEM - not
what
matters to you.  Talk about how the bill affects you in practical
terms.  If you have a first-hand experience, or anecdote, that's usually
helpful.

        For example: "I work for ______ and I have to travel all over the

country.  I usually visit 20 different states a year.  If I had to get a
permit in each of those states, it would cost me about $3,500 which I
can't
afford.  If HB 376 passes, I'll be able to use my Utah permit in most of
those states."

        Please contact the following members of the House Judiciary
Committee if
you haven't already done so and ask them to support HB 376.

Members of the House Judiciary Committee:
Arent           [e-mail],        801-272-1956
Bennion   [e-mail]        801-281-1607
Bigelow   [e-mail]        801-968-4188
Bryson           [e-mail]        801-226-2061
Cox           [e-mail]                801-967-9760
Curtis           [e-mail]        801-943-3091
Daniels   [e-mail]        801-582-8080
Ferrin           [e-mail]        801-224-6823
Ferry           [e-mail]        435-744-2997
Hendrickson [e-mail]        801-969-8920
Thompson  [e-mail]        801-226-5032
Tyler           [e-mail]        801-272-1218
Way           [e-mail]                801-798-2295
801-636-0509 (cell)

Be sure you contact committee Chair, Glenn Way, and Vice Chair, Jim
Ferrin.  If one of the committee members is your Representative, s/he
should be your priority.  Reps. Arent, Cox, Hendrickson, and Tyler have
historically been very hostile to gun rights, so they should be at the
bottom of your list.

Please CALL these Representatives at home this evening.  You can also
leave
messages at the Capitol on Monday (538-1029) but that's less effective.


SAVE THE DATE!  Rep. Mike Thompson expects his HB 345 - Carrying a
Firearm
(Vermont carry, right to carry without a permit) to be heard Wednesday,
Feb. 21 at 8 AM.  Please plan to attend - even if it means taking a
couple
of hours off work.  The same committee members listed above will be
voting
on this bill.

SEE YOU TOMORROW!

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PO Box 1185
Sandy, UT 84091
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:40:44 -0700
From: charles hardy <[e-mail]>
Subject: ALERT:  HB 376 CCW Recognition needs help;  Also support HB 345 Vermont Carry

HB376  CCW Recognition
HB345 Vermont Carry
Plan to attend hearing

In a continuing show of contempt for law abiding citizens' ability to
defend themselvs (as well as his command of legislative procedures) Rep.
Gary Cox dealt a (we hope temporary) setback to Rep. Donnalson's HB 376
- -- CCW Recognition today in the House Judiciary Committee by offering a
substitute that gutted the entire bill.  Cox's hostile substitute was
accepted by a vote of 7 - 6.  This IS progress over last year where we
would have expected to lose 12 -1 or even 13 -0.  But the game isn't over
yet.  Donnelson will be back with amendments or another substitute to
restore the original intent of the bill.  And with some calls, faxes, and
emails, as well as another heavy turn out at the hearing, we think we can
sway one or even two of those who voted against us and send this bill to
the full house on a vote of 7 - 6 in our favor.

HB 376 as originally proposed and substituted by its sponsor, would
require Utah to recognize the CCW permits issued by all other States,
Counties, Cities, etc.  Upon doing this, there are about 8 States that
will immediately honor Utah's CCW permits.  That's 8 more States where
you can travel with the safety and security of your legally carried self
defense weapon.  HB 376 would also allow off duty police officers from
out of State to CCW in Utah.  Currently, they may only do so if they are
on "official business."  It is also important to note that under current
Utah law we do not honor permits from places like California even though
their requirements are MUCH more stringent (and discriminatory) than our
own simply because in that (and several other States) the permits are not
issued by the State, but are instead issued by the County or City.  Some
have, and will make a big deal of the fact that this bill would allow
people from States with less stringent training requirements that Utah to
CCW here.  Bear in mind that Utah honors driver's licenses from all 50
States regardless of the local requirements to obtain that license.  Also
remember that there is no difference in the rate of problems with CCW
permitees between Arizona which requires 16 hours of training and
Washington State that has no training requirement and Utah that has
minimal training.

We expect this bill will be heard again by the House Judiciary Committee
at their Wednesday, February 21st meeting which is at 7:00 am probably in
Room 223.

What we need to do:

Contact Representatives Ron Bigelow and Ben Ferry and ask them to change
their votes.  They voted in favor of Cox's sabotage substitute,
effectively voting against Donnelson's bill.  These two are the closest
we have to "swing votes" and some polite, but sure feedback may well
swing them back in line.  The other five who voted against us are very
anti-gun and are not worth wasting any time on until the next election.
They are Arent, Cox, Hendrickson, Tyler, Daniels.

Faxes for any Rep. may be sent to House Fax Machine at 801-538-1908.  Be
sure the recipient's name is in large, bold print on the first page.

Messages for any Rep. may be left during business hours with house
operator at 801-538-1029.  Ask her to "hand deliver" the message.

Rep. Ron Bigelow may also be contacted at:
(home) 801-968-4188
E-mail: [e-mail]

Rep Ben Ferry may be contacted at:
(home & office) 435-744-2997 (fax) 435-744-2999
E-mail: [e-mail]

Again, please be polite but firm.  Let these two know that you are
disapointed in their vote to allow Cox to sabotage a perfectly reasonable
bill that will make it easier, safer, and cheaper for Utahn's with CCW
permits to travel in other States and to welcome law abiding citizens to
our State.  Ask them to change their vote and oppose HB 376 S2 (Cox's
substitue) and support whatever amendments or substitutes Donnelson
offers.

We also need to contact those Representatives who voted with us (by
voting against Cox's sabotage substitute) to thank them for their vote
and to ask them to stand firm and support Donnelson's amendments or
substitutes.  A couple of those who voted with us were fairly quiet on
the voice vote and only lent their full support when other members
demanded a roll call vote.  More evidence that holding legislators
accountable for their votes tends to get them voting the right way.
Again, please be polite, thank them for their vote, and ask them to
support Donnelson's bill and to oppose Cox's sabotage substitute.

Those who voted with us are: Way, Ferrin, Bennion, Bryson, Curtis, and
Thompson.

Faxes and messages may be left at the numbers given above.

Email addresses are (please us bcc field if you email all at once):

[e-mail] ; [e-mail] ; [e-mail] ;
[e-mail] ; [e-mail] ;
[e-mail]

Home Phone numbers:

Way
801-798-2295

Ferrin
(home) 801-224-6823 (office) 801-224-9867

Bennion
(home) 801-281-1607  (office) 801-468-2876  (fax) 801-288-2144

Bryson
801-226-2061

Curtis
(home) 801-943-3091 (office) 801-942-7464

Thompson
(home) 801-226-5032 (office) 801-223-9044

Again, these are the guys who voted with us.  Please thank them and ask
them to continue to oppose Cox's efforts to derail a good bill.  Ask them
to support Donnelson.


HB 345 Vermont Carry

Rep. Mike Thomson's HB 345 "Vermont Carry" is scheduled to be heard by
the same House Judiciary Committee this Wednesday, February 21st at 7:00
am in room 223.  Please contact the above members of the committee and
ask them to support Thompson's HB 345.

This bill would, in most instances, remove criminal penalaties for
carrying a concealed weapon without a permit.  Utah's CCW permit system
would remain in place for those who wanted a permit either for travel to
other States, to avoid the background check when buying a gun, or to
carry in one of few places where those without permits would not be able
to carry.  In short, this bill would bring Utah's Statutes in line with
Utah's Constitution by recognizing a RIGHT to carry a gun for self
defense rather than just a privelege granted by the State.

To have this bill drafted, introduced, and released from Rules Committee
to a Standing committee is a HUGE success that we only dreamed of just
last year.  In any contacts with Rep. Thompson, please be sure to thank
him for sponsoring this bill.  The good freshman representative is not
even a gun owner.  He has done this because he believes it is the right
thing to do and he has taken heat for it.

ATTEND the HEARING.

Friends, it was an awesome sight today to see the hearing room packed
with pro-gun people.  We need to do it again and have an even larger turn
out this Wednesday.  This is a small room.  If we all show up and all
arrive early, there is no reason we cannot pack the room and the hall way
outside so that anti-gunners cannot even get in, much less find a seat.
Let's give our friends this show of support and deny our enemies any
comfort.  The hearing starts at 7:00 am so many of us should be able to
attend before we head off to work.  The room is small, I fully expect
that the anti-gun forces will be out in strength, and we want to pack the
room, so please arrive early--6:45 at the latest.  6:30 would be ideal.
Bring some hot cocoa or coffee or OJ and enjoy being able to turn out to
support a couple of good bills for a change.  Most of us will probably
have to go straight to work after the hearing, but if at all possible
please dress in your Business or Sunday best or at least "business
casual."  There are restrooms where I would suspect you can change into
work clothes if you need to.  If you simply must wear work clothes please
avoid Tshirst with slogans.

If any of you are particularly gifted or have special experience that may
be relevant and would like to testify or speak, plese let me or Dr. Sarah
Thompson with UTGOA mailto:[e-mail] know.  We'll do what we can
to coordinate our side.  We could particularly use a police officer or
two.  Rep. Gary Cox is a police officer and we need to counter his
influence with other officers who do trust law abiding citizens to
exercise their rights in a peacful, responsible manner.

Finally, please forward this message to anyone who may not receive it
directly.

AGAIN:

HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE HEARING
WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 21ST, 7:00 AM ROOM 223
PLEASE ARRIVE NO LATER THAN 6:45 AM.

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Charles Hardy
<[e-mail]>
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:18:03 -0700
From: Scott Bergeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Outreach

Ashcroft may teach lefties to love guns
- ----------
by Knute Berger
   "[T]he time is ripe for liberals to overcome their Second-Amendment
   reluctance, embrace gun rights, praise Gaia and pass the
   ammunition. It's time to test the tolerance of the Bush
   administration's new chief law enforcement officer by seeing how
   far he'll go to protect those who also abhor tyranny, but from
   the opposite end of the political spectrum." (02/13/01)
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=10466

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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:55:48 -0700
From: charles hardy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Biatholon Article

A great article on the biatholon in today's SLTrib.

<http://www.sltrib.com/02202001/tuesday/73005.htm>

A few excerpts:

Utahns will have a chance to see the world's finest biathletes compete
     when the sport's World Cup tour stops at Soldier Hollow for a
     pre-Olympic test Feb. 28-March 3.


 In recent years, the populated
     Middle European nations have come to the fore, resulting in a surge
in
     biathlon's television ratings that eclipse those of other snow
sports ╤ even
     prime-time ski jumping, which is like a religion in Finland and
Japan.

Lyle Nelson, the Salt Lake Organizing Committee's biathlon program
     manager, estimates 35 million TV viewers in Europe will tune into
live
     prime-time coverage of the Utah World Cup biathlon.
        "It's far and away the biggest TV promotion SLOC is doing,"
Nelson
     said.
        More countries partipate in Olympic biathlon than in any other
winter
     sport, Nelson says. About 200 biathletes from 32 nations, including
     Argentina, Chile, Greece and Korea, are expected to compete next
     week.
==================================================================
Charles C. Hardy
Utah Email Coordinator--Women Against Gun Control
<[e-mail]>

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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:17:46 -0700
From: charles hardy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fw: [UTGOA] URGENT!!  CONCEALED CARRY RECOGNITION IN DANGER!

Same info as in my most recent post, but with some different

==================================================================
Charles C. Hardy
Utah Email Coordinator--Women Against Gun Control
<[e-mail]>

- --------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Sarah Thompson <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:48:50 -0700
Subject: [UTGOA] URGENT!!  CONCEALED CARRY RECOGNITION IN DANGER!

Apologies if this is a duplicate.  We're having server problems.

YOUR HELP IS NEEDED RIGHT AWAY!

HB 376S3 (3rd substitute)- Concealed Carry Recognition was passed by the
House Judiciary Committee today.

This bill will recognize concealed carry permits from any state or county

in the US.  It will also make it possible for Utah permittees to carry in

many states, such as Florida, where they currently are not allowed to
carry.  It will save money, and more important, it will save lives.

HB 376S3 is expected to have its FINAL House vote tomorrow -
Thursday.  Rep. Gary Cox is once again trying to sabotage it.  He thinks
we
are disorganized and won't be able to contact legislators in time to stop

him.  We need to prove him WRONG!


What you must do RIGHT NOW!

Call your OWN REPRESENTATIVE at home this evening!.  Tell him/her you
expect a YES vote on HB 376S3 - with NO amendments and NO changes.  It's
fine the way it is.

Make sure s/he understands that you think this is the most important bill

(or one of them) this year and that you will be very unhappy if it
doesn't
pass as is.  Utah Gun Owners Alliance will post votes as soon as they are

available.

If you are unable to reach your legislator, leave a message at
801-538-1029.

DO NOT THREATEN LEGISLATORS!


Also call the following members of House leadership at home this evening:
Speaker Marty Stephens
Rep. Kevin Garn
Rep. David Ure
Rep. Greg Curtis

Tell them you expect House Republican leadership to take an active role
in
making sure that HB 376S3 passes as is, with no amendments.  Remind them
that it is their job to make sure that Republicans abide by their party
platform and support gun rights.

You should also leave a message for Speaker Stephens at
801-538-1930.  Messages for the rest can be left at 801-538-1029.

Remember that messages get lost and thrown out, so it's MUCH better to
call
legislators at home.  You can also send faxes to 538-1908 (R) or 538-9505
(D)


Find your representative at:
http://www.le.state.ut.us/house/District%20Info/Maps/State.htm


Full Roster of Utah Representatives:

Dis Pty Name      Phone        Fax          E-Mail

01 D Anderson     435-854-3760              [e-mail]
02 R Ferry        435-744-2997 435-744-2999 [e-mail]
03 R Buttars      435-258-5015 435-258-2559 [e-mail]
04 R Pace         435-753-6154 435-753-5013 [e-mail]
05 R Parker       435-245-6275 435-245-7555 [e-mail]
06 R Stephens     801-731-5346 801-538-1908 [e-mail]
07 R Donnelson    801-782-2640              [e-mail]
08 R Murray       801-393-7062              [e-mail]
09 D Hansen       801-393-1514 801-392-8011 [e-mail]
10 D Shurtliff    801-479-0289              [e-mail]
11 R Saunders     801-476-1110              [e-mail]
12 R Adair        801-773-2125 801-773-9927 [e-mail]
13 R Ray          801-774-0624 801-778-8427 [e-mail]
14 R Bush         801-825-3210 801-825-3210 [e-mail]
15 R Aagard       801-546-3935 801-726-8500 [e-mail]
16 R Garn         801-544-3533 801-776-0214 [e-mail]
17 R Dillree      801-451-2773 801-451-6116 [e-mail]
18 R Barrus       801-292-7988              [e-mail]
19 R Allen        801-295-8576 801-402-5218 [e-mail]
20 R Siddoway     801-292-4185 801-294-4135 [e-mail]
21 D Gowans       435-882-2120              [e-mail]
22 D Duckworth    801-250-0728 801-252-1384 [e-mail]
23 D Bourdeaux    801-596-8784 801-596-9085 [e-mail]
24 D Becker       801-364-1656 801-355-2090 [e-mail]
25 D Daniels      801-582-8080 801-583-0802 [e-mail]
26 D Fife         801-521-7383 801-521-6456 [e-mail]
27 D Litvack      801-596-0187              [e-mail]
28 R Bradshaw     801-581-9646 801-581-9646 [e-mail]
29 D Goodfellow   801-968-0626 801-957-3380 [e-mail]
30 D Biskupski    801-484-8369              [e-mail]
31 D McCartney    801-466-3558              [e-mail]
32 R Bigelow      801-968-4188              [e-mail]
33 D Hendrickson  801-969-8920 801-955-5143 [e-mail]
34 R Holdaway     801-964-6360              [e-mail]
35 D Buffmire     801-266-1862              [e-mail]
36 R Tyler        801-272-1218 801-585-9291 [e-mail]
37 D Moss         801-272-6507              [e-mail]
38 D Cox          801-967-9760 801-562-2105 [e-mail]
39 D Beshear      801-957-0840 801-964-8080 [e-mail]
40 D Jones        801-278-7667 801-322-5725 [e-mail]
41 D Arent        801-272-1956 801-538-9505 [e-mail]
42 R Wallace      801-233-9041              [e-mail]
43 R Harper       801-566-5466              [e-mail]
44 R Bennion      801-281-1607 801-288-2144 [e-mail]
45 R Philpot      801-568-7787              [e-mail]
46 D Morgan       801-943-0067 801-943-9614 [e-mail]
47 R Holladay     801-280-6404 801-619-7019 [e-mail]
48 D Beck         801-572-2325 801-572-9347 [e-mail]
49 R Curtis       801-943-3091              [e-mail]
50 R Newbold      801-254-0142              [e-mail]
51 R Swallow      801-572-8201              [e-mail]
52 R Hogue        801-254-1668 801-253-7568 [e-mail]
53 R Ure          435-783-4650 435-783-4650 [e-mail]
54 R Snow         435-722-4162              [e-mail]
55 R Seitz        435-789-0650 435-789-1551 [e-mail]
56 R Cox          801-768-8759 801-768-8759 [e-mail]
57 R Winn         801-319-4471 801-226-5207 [e-mail]
58 R Ferrin       801-224-6823 801-235-9122 [e-mail]
59 R Thompson     801-226-5032              [e-mail]
60 R Bryson       801-226-2061              [e-mail]
61 R Dayton       801-221-0623 801-221-2513 [e-mail]
62 R Alexander    801-375-1092 801-852-2258 [e-mail]
63 R Clark        801-374-6927 801-375-1271 [e-mail]
64 R Lockhart     801-377-7428              [e-mail]
65 R Throckmorton 801-489-8342 801-489-8342 [e-mail]
66 R Way          801-798-2295              [e-mail]
67 R Peterson     435-623-2271              [e-mail]
68 R Styler       435-864-3077 435-864-5660 [e-mail]
69 D King         435-637-7955 435-637-2433 [e-mail]
70 R Johnson      435-529-3227 435-529-7444 [e-mail]
71 D Young        435-259-4542              [e-mail]
72 R Bowman       435-586-8174 435-586-8174 [e-mail]
73 R Hatch        435-676-2214 435-676-2421 [e-mail]
74 R Clark        435-628-5108 435-628-0178 [e-mail]
75 R Urquhart     435-673-4424              [e-mail]


Please do everything you can to make sure that HB 376S3 passes the House
with NO amendments!  Thank you!
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:41:11 -0700
From: charles hardy <[e-mail]>
Subject: HB 376 S3 -- Concealed Carry Recognition Due for Vote between 2 and 3 pm today

Rep. Donnelon's HB 376 S3 that would recognize all out of State concealed
carry permits as well as allowing off duty police officers to carry their
weapons while visiting Utah is due to be voted on by the full house
sometime this afternoon.

It looks like we've done a pretty decent job of contacting legislators in
the last 16 hours on this judging from the comments I received from
legislators or their wives as I called them last night.

Now is the time for the final push to get this good bill past the house,
intact, and sent to the Senate.  Legislators and House leadership really
need to come back from their lunch breaks to find a stack of messages in
favor of this bill waiting for them.

Please, take a few minutes and do two things.

1: Email House Leadership and your Representative asking them to support
HB 376 S3 while opposing any efforts to amend or further substitute it.
Cut and paste addresses and sample email below.

2:  Call or fax House Speaker Marty Stephens and your own legislator at
the capital again asking them to support HB 376 S3 while opposing any
efforts to amend or futher substitute it.  Contact info below.

At this point, volume, rather than content is what really matters.  Phone
messages can be simply, "Please support HB 376 S3.  Please oppose any
amendments or further substitutes."  Faxes and emails need be no longer
than the sample below.

Phone messages for Speaker Stephens may be left by calling 801-538-1930.
Phone messages for all other House members may be left by calling
801-538-1029.  Ask that these mesages be "hand delivered."

Faxes may be sent to Republican House members at 801-538-1908.
Faxes may be sent to Democratic House members at 801-538-9505.
In either case make sure the legislator's name is in large, clear, print
on the first page of the fax.

- --------house leadership email addresses-----------------

[e-mail] ; [e-mail] ; [e-mail]
;
[e-mail] ; [e-mail] ; [e-mail]

- ------------------------------------------

- -------------Sample email / fax ---------------------------
subject:  Please support HB 376 S3, please oppose all further substitutes
or amendments

Dear Honorable Representative;

I'm writing to ask you to support HB 376 S3 in its current form, as
intended by its sponsor, Rep. Donnelson.  Please oppose any further,
hostile efforts, from either side of the aisle, to substitute or amend
this good bill.

This bill will save Utahn's money and time.  It will also increase our
safety.  I consider this an extremely important bill.

Please ensure that it passes the house intact.

Please let me know your position on this bill.

Sincerely

name
address

- --------------------------------------------------------

======================
Full list of Representatives' names and emails.  Don't bother calling the
phone numbers below.  They won't get those messages until after they've
voted.  Call them at the capital number given above.  Fax them at one of
the faxes given above.

Dis Pty Name      Phone        Fax          E-Mail

01 D Anderson     435-854-3760
[e-mail]
02 R Ferry        435-744-2997 435-744-2999
[e-mail]
03 R Buttars      435-258-5015 435-258-2559
[e-mail]
04 R Pace         435-753-6154 435-753-5013
[e-mail]
05 R Parker       435-245-6275 435-245-7555
[e-mail]
06 R Stephens     801-731-5346 801-538-1908
[e-mail]
07 R Donnelson    801-782-2640
[e-mail]
08 R Murray       801-393-7062
[e-mail]
09 D Hansen       801-393-1514 801-392-8011
[e-mail]
10 D Shurtliff    801-479-0289
[e-mail]
11 R Saunders     801-476-1110
[e-mail]
12 R Adair        801-773-2125 801-773-9927
[e-mail]
13 R Ray          801-774-0624 801-778-8427
[e-mail]
14 R Bush         801-825-3210 801-825-3210
[e-mail]
15 R Aagard       801-546-3935 801-726-8500
[e-mail]
16 R Garn         801-544-3533 801-776-0214
[e-mail]
17 R Dillree      801-451-2773 801-451-6116
[e-mail]
18 R Barrus       801-292-7988
[e-mail]
19 R Allen        801-295-8576 801-402-5218
[e-mail]
20 R Siddoway     801-292-4185 801-294-4135
[e-mail]
21 D Gowans       435-882-2120
[e-mail]
22 D Duckworth    801-250-0728 801-252-1384
[e-mail]
23 D Bourdeaux    801-596-8784 801-596-9085
[e-mail]
24 D Becker       801-364-1656 801-355-2090
[e-mail]
25 D Daniels      801-582-8080 801-583-0802
[e-mail]
26 D Fife         801-521-7383 801-521-6456
[e-mail]
27 D Litvack      801-596-0187
[e-mail]
28 R Bradshaw     801-581-9646 801-581-9646
[e-mail]
29 D Goodfellow   801-968-0626 801-957-3380
[e-mail]
30 D Biskupski    801-484-8369
[e-mail]
31 D McCartney    801-466-3558
[e-mail]
32 R Bigelow      801-968-4188
[e-mail]
33 D Hendrickson  801-969-8920 801-955-5143
[e-mail]
34 R Holdaway     801-964-6360
[e-mail]
35 D Buffmire     801-266-1862
[e-mail]
36 R Tyler        801-272-1218 801-585-9291
[e-mail]
37 D Moss         801-272-6507
[e-mail]
38 D Cox          801-967-9760 801-562-2105
[e-mail]
39 D Beshear      801-957-0840 801-964-8080
[e-mail]
40 D Jones        801-278-7667 801-322-5725
[e-mail]
41 D Arent        801-272-1956 801-538-9505
[e-mail]
42 R Wallace      801-233-9041
[e-mail]
43 R Harper       801-566-5466
[e-mail]
44 R Bennion      801-281-1607 801-288-2144
[e-mail]
45 R Philpot      801-568-7787
[e-mail]
46 D Morgan       801-943-0067 801-943-9614
[e-mail]
47 R Holladay     801-280-6404 801-619-7019
[e-mail]
48 D Beck         801-572-2325 801-572-9347
[e-mail]
49 R Curtis       801-943-3091
[e-mail]
50 R Newbold      801-254-0142
[e-mail]
51 R Swallow      801-572-8201
[e-mail]
52 R Hogue        801-254-1668 801-253-7568
[e-mail]
53 R Ure          435-783-4650 435-783-4650
[e-mail]
54 R Snow         435-722-4162
[e-mail]
55 R Seitz        435-789-0650 435-789-1551
[e-mail]
56 R Cox          801-768-8759 801-768-8759
[e-mail]
57 R Winn         801-319-4471 801-226-5207
[e-mail]
58 R Ferrin       801-224-6823 801-235-9122
[e-mail]
59 R Thompson     801-226-5032
[e-mail]
60 R Bryson       801-226-2061
[e-mail]
61 R Dayton       801-221-0623 801-221-2513
[e-mail]
62 R Alexander    801-375-1092 801-852-2258
[e-mail]
63 R Clark        801-374-6927 801-375-1271
[e-mail]
64 R Lockhart     801-377-7428
[e-mail]
65 R Throckmorton 801-489-8342 801-489-8342
[e-mail]
66 R Way          801-798-2295
[e-mail]
67 R Peterson     435-623-2271
[e-mail]
68 R Styler       435-864-3077 435-864-5660
[e-mail]
69 D King         435-637-7955 435-637-2433
[e-mail]
70 R Johnson      435-529-3227 435-529-7444
[e-mail]
71 D Young        435-259-4542
[e-mail]
72 R Bowman       435-586-8174 435-586-8174
[e-mail]
73 R Hatch        435-676-2214 435-676-2421
[e-mail]
74 R Clark        435-628-5108 435-628-0178
[e-mail]
75 R Urquhart     435-673-4424
[e-mail]


==================================================================
Charles C. Hardy
Utah Email Coordinator--Women Against Gun Control
<[e-mail]>

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