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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:26:11 -0700
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The Constitutional right to keep and bear arms--as well as the rule of law
itself--is under attack from gun control laws and lawsuits from the states
and cities.

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War on Gun Owners

Answering Objections to Right-to-Carry Laws
National Center for Policy Analysis
November 1997, 2pp.
Order document #1328302
http://www.heartland.org/pdf/13283b.pdf

Gun Control Won't Stop the Madness
The Independence Institute
May 1999, 2pp.
Order document #1328118
http://www.heartland.org/pdf/13281r.pdf

Gun Lawsuits: Misfired Public Policy
Pacific Research Institute
April 1999, 2pp.
Order document #1328126
http://www.heartland.org/pdf/13281z.pdf

Lifting the Skirts of the "Progressive" Demonizers
The Heartland Institute
March 1999, 4pp.
Order document #6313203
http://www.heartland.org/pdf/63132c.pdf


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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 20:07:12 -0700
From: Scott Bergeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: LEG-ALERTS 1/26 - BAD BILLS, COMMITTEE HEARINGS, etc.

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Subject: LEG-ALERTS 1/26 - BAD BILLS, COMMITTEE HEARINGS, etc.
   Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 18:35:38 -0700
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PLEASE FORWARD!

Committee hearings TOMORROW 8 AM!
SB 79's evil spawn - SB 153
Dave Jones's ban on private sales
School surveys
What you MUST DO!


COMMITTEE HEARINGS THURSDAY 8 AM!

Three bills will be heard in committee tomorrow morning at 8 AM.
HB 161, Background checks for weapons purchases, A. L. Tyler (R)
Position: OPPOSE  The bill would make juvenile records available to BCI for
background checks.  This is an unconstitutional ex post facto (retroactive)
law, and juveniles are not entitled to a jury trial.  Rights should not be
revoked unless full due process is accorded.
HB 176, Weapons Restrictions for Mentally Ill People, G. Cox (D)
Position: OPPOSE  The bill would revoke rights FOR LIFE for persons
involuntarily committed to a mental institution.  (The bill does not say this,
but Federal law does.)  Utah does not provide due process for mental health
commitments.  This is also an unconstitutional ex post facto law.
These bills will be heard at 8 AM, House Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice
Committee, Rm 225
HB 199, Limits on Gun Manufacturer's Liability, M. Throckmorton (R)
Position: SUPPORT  This bill would protect firearms manufacturers against
frivolous lawsuits.
This bill will be heard at 8 AM, House Judiciary Committe, Rm 223  Please show
up to support the one PRO-GUN bill this session!

Full bill analyses, and links to bill text, can be found at
http://www.utguns.freeservers.com/bills.html  Only NEW bills will have full
analyses in email alerts.


MORE BAD BILLS - SPENCER AND JONES

SB 153, Criminal Penalty Amendments, T. Spencer (R?)
http://www.le.state.ut.us/~2000/htmdoc/sbillhtm/SB0153.htm
POSITION: Strongest possible opposition
Utah's own "Schumer" is at it yet again!  Today he introduced SB 153, the evil
spawn of SB 79, which he withdrew yesterday.  SB 153, along with SB 72, would
revoke firearms rights for MISDEMEANORS.  Sen. Spencer would like us to believe
that SB 153 is better than SB 79.  But it's worse!  The first bill proposed to
revoke rights for misdemeanors for at least three years; the new bill would
revoke rights for LIFE!
SB 153 contains a long list of misdemeanors for which the penalty would be
raised from a sentence of imprisonment for up to one year, to a sentence of
imprisonment not to exceed 13 months.  Under Federal Brady, a sentence of
greater than one year results in a LIFETIME loss of firearms rights.
Examples of offenses that Terry Spencer thinks should result in a LIFETIME loss
of rights:
Carrying a concealed firearm without a permit
Spanking a child
Possession of more than one ounce of marijuana (legal in many states!)
Possession of any item that "could be" used in connection with illegal drugs,
such as plastic bags, spoons, bowls, syringes, scales, etc.
Possession of "too much" crystal iodine or cold pills
Assaulting a "school employee or volunteer".  (No, I don't condone assault.
But why are school employees a protected class?)
Calling or writing to legislators, if your communication causes "emotional
distress" to a legislator or his family.
Taking your own, legally prescribed, medication into a correctional facility.
Any injury to a child that involves a "dangerous weapon", even if accidental.
SB 153 is WORSE than SB 79!!!  If these crimes are so horrible, they should be
prosecuted as FELONIES.  That way they would revoke not only gun rights, but
ALL rights and privileges including right to vote, professional licenses,
teaching certificates, etc.  Spencer isn't interested in "fighting crime" - he
just wants to revoke gun rights!

HB 95 - Weapons Amendments, D. Jones, (D)
http://www.le.state.ut.us/~2000/htmdoc/hbillhtm/HB0095.htm
POSITION: Strongest possible opposition
Perennial gun-grabber Dave Jones proposes to ban all private transactions of
firearms unless a background check is conducted.  While the bill appears to
affect only gun shows and other "events" such as swap meets, my reading
indicates that it could ban all private sales.
At a minimum, all such events would be required to either have a BCI background
check service set up, or have an FFL willing to do background checks for
everyone at the event.  This would effectively shut down smaller gun shows, and
eliminate private transactions at other events.
Enforcing this bill would require registration of ALL gun show attendees, which
would completely shut down gun shows!!

SB 37 - School surveys will shortly have its final vote in the Senate.  Please
ask any Senator you contact to OPPOSE this bill!

WHAT YOU MUST DO!
1. Plan to attend the committee hearings tomorrow!  Since they start at 8 AM,
you can even show up before work!
2. CALL LEGISLATORS TONIGHT!  Email may not reach them in time!)
Support HB 199!
House Judiciary
A. Lamont Tyler, Chair <[e-mail]> 801-272-1218
Glenn L. Way, Vice Chair <[e-mail]> 801-798-2295
John Swallow <[e-mail]> 801-572-8201
Katherine Bryson <[e-mail]> 801-226-2061
Martin Stephens  <[e-mail]>  801-731-5346
Bill Hickman <[e-mail]> 435-673-2671
Chad Bennion <[e-mail]> 801-281-1607
Greg Curtis  <[e-mail]> 801-943-3091
Patrice Arent <[e-mail]> 801-272-1956
Neal Hendrickson <[e-mail]> 801-969-8920
Gary Cox <[e-mail]> 801-967-6790
All can be reached at 801-538-1029

Oppose HB 161, 176!
House Law Enforcement
Bud Bowman, Chair <[e-mail]> 435-586-8174
Jack A. Seitz, Vice Chair <[e-mail]> 435-789-0650
Loraine Pace <[e-mail]> 435-753-6154
Blake D. Chard, <[e-mail]> 801-773-7474
Carl Saunders, <[e-mail]> 801-476-1110
Nora Stephens, <[e-mail]> 801-825-3792
Susan Koehn, <[e-mail]> 801-296-1761
David L. Hogue, <[e-mail]> 801-254-1668
Perry L. Buckner, <[e-mail]> 801-964-8215
Duane Bourdeaux, <[e-mail]> 801-596-8784
Trisha Beck, <[e-mail]> 801-572-2325
All can be contacted at: 801-538-1029  (Some of these legislators from outside
the SL area will not be at home, but you can leave messages!)

3. Keep calling and writing to Sen. Terry Spencer.  Let him know you will NEVER
support revocation of rights for MISDEMEANORS.  If he wants to revoke rights,
he should make the crimes FELONIES and revoke ALL rights and privileges!
Sen. Terry Spencer
319 State Capitol
SLC, UT 84114-0111
801-543-4450 home
801-538-1414 fax
801-538-1035 Capitol - make sure you ask that the message be hand delivered!

4. Call Senate President Lane Beattie and insist that he OPPOSE SB 72 and 153
and do everything possible to KILL them!
Sen. Lane Beattie
319 State Capitol
SLC, UT 84114-0111
801-292-7406 home
801-538-1400 Capitol
801-538-1414 fax

5. Call Speaker of the House Marty Stephens.  Insist that he OPPOSE revocation
of rights for misdemeanors!  This is a question of principle, not bill
language!  And remember to ask him to SUPPORT HB 199!
Rep. Marty Stephens
318 State Capitol
SLC, UT 84114-0116
801-731-5346 (home)
801-538-1930 (work)
801-538-1908 (fax)

6. KEEP CALLING AND WRITING TO YOUR OWN LEGISLATORS!!

7. Forward this alert to at least three people!

Thanks!
Sarah

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:13:35 -0700
From: charles hardy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fw: UTGuns LEG-ALERTS 1/27: Today's activities

all
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Charles C. Hardy
<[e-mail]>

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A VERY BIG THANK-YOU to all of you who showed up for committee hearings
today!  Special kudos to those who testified!

Report on today's events, Thursday, 1/27/99

HB 161 was heard by the House Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice
Committee today.  UTGuns testified and OPPOSED this bill which would
revoke
firearms rights for those adjudicated delinquent as juveniles for up to
10
years.  (See http://www.utguns.freeservers.com for bill analyses of these

bills.)
Despite our best efforts, this bill passed with only one NO vote by Rep.
Hogue.
This bill will now go to the full House for a vote.

HB 176S2 was heard by the same committee.  This bill would revoke
firearms
rights FOR LIFE for anyone involuntarily committed to a mental hospital -

even if the commitment was false, or the person recovered.  UTGuns
testified and OPPOSED this bill.  Because of the concerns raised by
UTGuns,
HB 176S2 was held in committee and was NOT passed.  It will be voted on
at
some time in the future, probably next week.

HB 199 was heard by the House Judiciary Committee.  UTGuns strongly
SUPPORTS this bill which would protect gun manufacturers from frivolous
lawsuits.  This bill passed committee and subsequently passed 2nd reading

in the full House.  It is expected to be passed (3rd reading) by the full

House shortly, and will then go to the Senate.

HB 173, Forfeiture Relating to Sexual Offenses Against Children was also
heard by the House Law Enforcement Committee and I apologize for not
getting an alert to you sooner.  (This is not a firearms bill, but all
gun
owners should be familiar with forfeiture!)  This bill would allow the
seizure of computer equipment used to transmit child pornography even if
the owner committed NO crime!  In order to get his property back, the
owner
would have to file a claim at his own expense and prove he was not
guilty!  This turns our system of justice where a person is innocent
until
proven guilty on its head!  And seizure of property violates the Fourth
Amendment.  Future alerts will cover asset forfeiture in more depth.
This
bill passed the committee with only one NO vote, again from Rep. Hogue.

What were other gun rights organization doing while this was going on?
USSC and the NRA both testified IN FAVOR of HB 161 and 176S2!!  Both
groups
are apparently too afraid of getting "bad press" to stand up for our
Constitution and our system of due process and jury trials!  They seem to

think that gun owners can protect their rights by infringing on the
rights
of others.

They're WRONG!  Our Bill of Rights is a brilliantly integrated system of
rights that stand or fall together.  Either all people have rights, or no

one will have any.  To paraphrase Pastor Niemoller:
First they came for the juvenile delinquents and I was silent because I
wasn't a juvenile delinquent,
Then they came for the drug users and I was silent because I didn't use
drugs.
Then they came for the mentally ill and I was silent because I didn't
think
I was mentally ill,
Then they came for the gun owners and there was no one left to speak for
me.

UTGuns supports the entire Constitution and Bill of Rights.  We will
NEVER
support the infringement of anyone's inalienable rights, or the denial of

due process, for any reason.  We can't fight all battles on all fronts,
but
we will never knowingly do harm to anyone's rights or freedom.

And where was GOUtah!?  As far as I can tell, they simply weren't there.

The Republican "Crime Package" will be revealed tomorrow
morning.  According to Speaker of the House Marty Stephens, neither Sen.
Terry Spencer's nor Sen. Lane Beattie's gun control bills will be
included.  This is a step in the right direction, although we don't know
what WILL be included.  Please make sure Marty knows that support for ANY

gun control is unacceptable!
Rep. Marty Stephens
318 State Capitol
SLC, UT 84114-0116
801-731-5346 (home)
801-538-1930 (work)
801-538-1908 (fax)
[e-mail]


How you can help!
1. Contact members of the House Law Enforcement Committee.  Ask them to
OPPOSE HB 161.  Remind them that all people are entitled to due process -

even juveniles and those labeled mentally ill.  Explain that permanent
revocation of rights for civil commitment is unacceptable because there
is
no due process for civil commitment in Utah.  And no matter what the bill

says, Federal Brady would make such revocations permanent!  Contact info
is
in yesterday's alert,
http://www.utguns.freeservers.com/legalerts012600.html.   Make sure they
know that USSC and the NRA do not speak for you, or gun owners in
general!

2. Contact your OWN representative and insist that s/he oppose both HB
161
and HB 176S2 (if it gets that far!)  And make sure you ask him/her to
SUPPORT HB 199!

3. Contact Sen. President Lane Beattie and ask why Senate Republicans are

sponsoring more gun control bills than the Democrats!

4. Show up in force for the SB 72 hearings tomorrow!


Of course we're all paranoid.  No one is talking about revoking OUR
firearms rights.  No one would dream of confiscating guns, banning guns,
or
anything other than "reasonable" gun control.  Yeah, right!

See http://www.gunscholar.org/gunban.htm  (They forgot Mike Leavitt, Lane

Beattie, Terry Spencer, Dave Jones, and Millie Peterson!)

Thanks again for your WONDERFUL support!

Sarah


Leg-alerts is written and distributed by Sarah Thompson, M.D.  All
information contained in these alerts is the responsibility of the
author,
unless otherwise attributed.

Leg-alerts can also be found at UTGuns,
http://www.UTguns.freeservers.com.  Please check out the new site!

This is a one-way list.  Please do NOT try to post to the list.  It won't

work, and repeat violations will result in your removal from the
list.  Comments may be sent to me at [e-mail].  Thanks!

Permission is granted for distribution of these alerts so long as no
changes are made and this message is left intact.

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Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:27:09 -0700
From: Scott Bergeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: Report on Thursday

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From: [e-mail]
To: (Recipient list suppressed)
Subject: Report on todays events
Date: Thu, Jan 27, 2000, 9:18 PM

A VERY BIG THANK-YOU to all of you who showed up for committee hearings
today!  Special kudos to those who testified!

Report on today's events, Thursday, 1/27/99

HB 161 was heard by the House Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice Committee
today.  UTGuns testified and OPPOSED this bill which would revoke firearms
rights for those adjudicated delinquent as juveniles for up to 10 years. (See
http://www.utguns.freeservers.com for bill analyses of these bills.) Despite
our best efforts, this bill passed with only one NO vote by Rep. Hogue. This
bill will now go to the full House for a vote.

HB 176S2 was heard by the same committee.  This bill would revoke firearms
rights FOR LIFE for anyone involuntarily committed to a mental hospital -
even if the commitment was false, or the person recovered.  UTGuns testified
and OPPOSED this bill.  Because of the concerns raised by UTGuns, HB 176S2
was held in committee and was NOT passed.  It will be voted on at some time
in the future, probably next week.

HB 199 was heard by the House Judiciary Committee.  UTGuns strongly SUPPORTS
this bill which would protect gun manufacturers from frivolous lawsuits.  This
bill passed committee and subsequently passed 2nd reading in the full House.
It is expected to be passed (3rd reading) by the full House shortly, and will
then go to the Senate.

HB 173, Forfeiture Relating to Sexual Offenses Against Children was also
heard by the House Law Enforcement Committee and I apologize for not getting
an alert to you sooner.  (This is not a firearms bill, but all gun owners
should be familiar with forfeiture!)  This bill would allow the seizure of
computer equipment used to transmit child pornography even if the owner
committed NO crime!  In order to get his property back, the owner would have
to file a claim at his own expense and prove he was not guilty!  This turns
our system of justice where a person is innocent until proven guilty on its
head!  And seizure of property violates the Fourth Amendment.  Future alerts
will cover asset forfeiture in more depth. This bill passed the committee
with only one NO vote, again from Rep. Hogue.

What were other gun rights organization doing while this was going on? USSC
and the NRA both testified IN FAVOR of HB 161 and 176S2!!  Both groups are
apparently too afraid of getting "bad press" to stand up for our Constitution
and our system of due process and jury trials!  They seem to think that gun
owners can protect their rights by infringing on the rights of others.

They're WRONG!  Our Bill of Rights is a brilliantly integrated system of
rights that stand or fall together.  Either all people have rights, or no
one will have any.  To paraphrase Pastor Niemoller: First they came for the
juvenile delinquents and I was silent because I wasn't a juvenile delinquent,
Then they came for the drug users and I was silent because I didn't use
drugs.  Then they came for the mentally ill and I was silent because I
didn't think I was mentally ill.  Then they came for the gun owners and
there was no one left to speak for me.

UTGuns supports the entire Constitution and Bill of Rights.  We will NEVER
support the infringement of anyone's inalienable rights, or the denial of
due process, for any reason.  We can't fight all battles on all fronts, but
we will never knowingly do harm to anyone's rights or freedom.

The Republican "Crime Package" will be revealed tomorrow morning.  According
to Speaker of the House Marty Stephens, neither Sen. Terry Spencer's nor
Sen. Lane Beattie's gun control bills will be included.  This is a step in
the right direction, although we don't know what WILL be included.  Please
make sure Marty knows that support for ANY gun control is unacceptable! Rep.
Marty Stephens 318 State Capitol SLC, UT  84114-0116 801-731-5346 (home)
801-538-1930 (work) 801-538-1908 (fax)  [e-mail]


How you can help! 1. Contact members of the House Law Enforcement Committee.
Ask them to OPPOSE HB 161.  Remind them that all people are entitled to due
process --- even juveniles and those labeled mentally ill.  Explain that
permanent revocation of rights for civil commitment is unacceptable because
there is no due process for civil commitment in Utah.  And no matter what the
bill says, Federal Brady would make such revocations permanent!  Contact info
is in yesterday's alert,
http://www.utguns.freeservers.com/legalerts012600.html.
Make sure they know that USSC and the NRA do not speak for you, or gun owners
in general!

2. Contact your OWN representative and insist that s/he oppose both HB 161
and HB 176S2 (if it gets that far!)  And make sure you ask him/her to
SUPPORT HB 199!

3. Contact Sen. President Lane Beattie and ask why Senate Republicans are
sponsoring more gun control bills than the Democrats!

4. Show up in force for the SB 72 hearings tomorrow!

Of course we're all paranoid.  No one is talking about revoking OUR firearms
rights.  No one would dream of confiscating guns, banning guns, or anything
other than "reasonable" gun control.  Yeah, right!

See http://www.gunscholar.org/gunban.htm  (They forgot Mike Leavitt, Lane
Beattie, Terry Spencer, Dave Jones, and Millie Peterson!)

Thanks again for your WONDERFUL support!

Sarah

Leg-alerts is written and distributed by Sarah Thompson, M.D.  All
information contained in these alerts is the responsibility of the author,
unless otherwise attributed.

Leg-alerts can also be found at UTGuns, http://www.UTguns.freeservers.com.
Please check out the new site!

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Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:40:23 -0700
From: Scott Bergeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: UTGuns LEG-ALERTS 1/27 - URGENT! SB 72 FRIDAY AM!

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From: [e-mail]
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:46:54 -0700
Subject: UTGuns LEG-ALERTS 1/27 - URGENT! SB 72 FRIDAY AM!

PLEASE FORWARD!!

URGENT!  Sen. Terry "Terror" Spencer's SB 72 will be heard by the Senate
Judiciary Committee FRIDAY, 8 AM, Rm 416!

SB 72 contains MANY offensive provisions to revoke firearms rights:
1. SB 72 would revoke firearms rights FOR LIFE for anyone who commits
a drug-related MISDEMEANOR!  This includes such trivial, non-violent,
offenses as taking your OWN medication out of the bottle and carrying
it in a pocket, possession of small amounts of marijuana - even for
medical use, and possession of so-called "drug paraphernalia" (baggies,
powdered sugar). This is just a sneaky way to break the centuries-old
legal principle that rights may not be revoked except for a felony.
If this passes, soon all misdemeanors will be grounds for revocation
of firearms rights.
2. SB 72 would revoke rights for those adjudicated delinquent as a juvenile
for a felony-level offense - without a jury trial - for up to ten years.
3. SB 72 would revoke firearms rights FOR LIFE for anyone involuntarily
committed to a mental hospital - even if the person was wrongfully
committed, or has recovered completely.  There is no due process for
commitments!
4. SB 72 would revoke firearms rights FOR LIFE for anyone dishonorably
discharged from the military - even those discharged for principled
stances regarding serving in UN forces, unsafe vaccines, etc.
5. SB 72 is an UNCONSTITUTIONAL ex post facto (retroactive) bill!
Any crime that is serious enough to warrant revocation of rights MUST BE
tried as a FELONY and result in loss of all rights, not just gun rights!

If SB 72 passes committee, Sen. Spencer will take it as support for his
even worse SB 153, which revokes firearms rights for life for a long
laundry list of misdemeanors!

IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT that we show Sen. Spencer (and the members of the
Judiciary Committee!) that revocation of rights for misdemeanor offenses is
COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE and that GUN OWNERS WILL NOT ROLL OVER FOR THIS!

PLEASE PLAN TO ATTEND THE COMMITTEE HEARING FRIDAY!  We need to pack the
room and the hallway outside!
PLEASE CALL EACH MEMBER OF THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE TONIGHT.  Let
them know you will not stand for revocation of rights for misdemeanors!
Sen. Terry R. Spencer, Chair 801-543-4450
Sen. Mike Dmitrich 435-637-0426
Sen. Parley Hellewell 801-226-3034
Sen. Lyle W. Hillyard 435-753-0043
Sen. Pete Suazo 801-521-3751
Sen. John L. Valentine 801-224-1693

Email: [e-mail], [e-mail],
[e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail],
[e-mail]

My report on today's activities on the Hill will follow.  Today was the
deadline for "numbering" (filing) bill titles, so there are many new
bills.  Full report may have to wait until the weekend.  You can see for
yourself at www.le.state.ut.us.

For those of you who are GOA (Gun Owners of America) members...  I got a
WONDERFUL packet from Larry Pratt, Executive Director of GOA today.  He
does a great job of exposing Mike Leavitt and the liberal Republicans' gun
grabbing, rights revoking agenda.

But more important, it contains a packet of postcards to send to legislators.
It is VERY important that you make sure EVERY single postcard gets mailed!
In fact, consider writing letters to your legislators and give the postcards
to friends or relatives to sign.  (Be nice and include a stamp!)  This is one
of the MOST EFFECTIVE ways to let legislators know that they must OPPOSE all
gun control!  It's quick, easy, and it WORKS!

Send these to:
Your Representative and Senator
Speaker of the House Marty Stephens
Senate President Lane Beattie
(As many other legislators as you want!)

If you're not a member of GOA, please consider joining the ONLY
NO-COMPROMISE NATIONAL GUN RIGHTS ORGANIZATION!  Go to http://www.gunowners.org

And if you didn't get postcards, buy some blank ones at the post
office, write a short message, and send them to legislators.

Remember, if you don't ACT NOW, your gun rights may soon be history!

Thanks to all of you who have already called, written or visited with
legislators.  Keep up the good work!

Sarah


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Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 19:55:48 -0700
From: Scott Bergeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: LEG-ALERTS 1/29: Votes, Hearings

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From: [e-mail]
To: [e-mail]
Subject: LEG-ALERTS 1/29: Votes, Hearings
Date: Sat, Jan 29, 2000, 5:36 PM

BILL UPDATES  (See http://www.utguns.freeservers.com/bills

SB 37 - School Surveys (Montgomery) has passed the Senate, and is now in the
House.  No voting list is yet available.  Please ask YOUR OWN Representative
to OPPOSE this bill.

HB 199 - Prohibition of Gun Suits (Throckmorton)  Victory in the House!
This bill passed the House and is now in the Senate.
Those voting AGAINST this good and necessary bill were: Representatives S.
Allen Arent Baca Beck Becker Bigelow Biskupski Bourdeaux Bradshaw Buffmire
Carlson G. Cox Fife Frandsen Goodfellow Hansen Hendrickson Jones Morgan
Siddoway G. Snow Tyler (voting list provided by Code-Co,
http://www.code-co.com/
<http://www.code-co.com/>)
If your Representative is on this list, please let him/her know that you don't
appreciate the ANTI-GUN vote, and that s/he has permanently lost your vote.
Please ask YOUR SENATOR to SUPPORT HB 199.

COMMITTEE HEARINGS  (Bill analyses at http://www.utguns.freeservers.com/bills)

MONDAY JAN. 31
8 AM - House Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice Committee, Rm. 225
HB 176S2 - Weapons Restriction for Mentally Ill (G. Cox) - Please ask
committee members to approve this bill ONLY if it is amended to provide
that rights are revoked only during a CURRENT order of civil commitment
(not for life!), and for those pleading guilty but mentally ill for FELONY
offenses (no revocation of rights for misdemeanors!)

Members are:
Bud Bowman, Chair <[e-mail]> 435-586-8174
Jack A. Seitz, Vice Chair <[e-mail]> 435-789-0650
Loraine Pace <[e-mail]> 435-753-6154
Blake D. Chard, <[e-mail]> 801-773-7474
Carl Saunders, <[e-mail]> 801-476-1110
Nora Stephens, <[e-mail]> 801-825-3792
Susan Koehn, <[e-mail]> 801-296-1761
David L. Hogue, <[e-mail]> 801-254-1668
Perry L. Buckner, <[e-mail]> 801-964-8215
Duane Bourdeaux, <[e-mail]> 801-596-8784
Trisha Beck, <[e-mail]> 801-572-2325
All can be contacted at: 801-538-1029  (Some of these legislators from
outside the SL area will not be at home, but you can leave messages!)

8 AM House Judiciary Committee Rm. 223
HB 245 - Safety in Public Schools (Wright)  Please ask committee members to
AMEND this bill so that its
provisions apply to ALL violent crimes committed in schools, and not just
"gun-related offenses".
Committee members are:
A. Lamont Tyler, Chair <[e-mail]> 801-272-1218
Glenn L. Way, Vice Chair <[e-mail]> 801-798-2295
John Swallow <[e-mail]> 801-572-8201
Katherine Bryson <[e-mail]> 801-226-2061
Martin Stephens  <[e-mail]> 801-731-5346
Bill Hickman <[e-mail]> 435-673-2671
Chad Bennion <[e-mail]> 801-281-1607
Greg Curtis  <[e-mail]> 801-943-3091
Patrice Arent <[e-mail]> 801-272-1956
Neal Hendrickson <[e-mail]> 801-969-8920
Gary Cox <[e-mail]> 801-967-6790


TUESDAY FEB. 1
3 PM - House Education Committee, Rm. 303
HB 248 - Gun Ban Schools, Churches, Residences (Jones) - PLEASE PLAN TO ATTEND!
Please call committee members and ask them to OPPOSE HB 248. Concealed carry
permittees are NOT a problem.
Committee members are:
Lloyd Frandsen, Chair [e-mail]  801-254-4940
Ron Bigelow, Vice Chair, [e-mail]  801-968-4188
Jeff Alexander, [e-mail]  801-375-1092
Duane Bourdeaux, [e-mail]  801-596-8784
Judy Ann Buffmire, [e-mail]  801-266-1862
Fred J. Fife, III, [e-mail],  801-521-7383
David L. Hogue, [e-mail],  801-254-1668
Bradley T. Johnson, [e-mail]  435-529-3227
Keele Johnson, [e-mail]  435-678-2077
Tammy J. Rowan, [e-mail]  801-224-6141
LaWanna Shurtliff, [e-mail]  801-479-0289, 801-391-7387
Matt Throckmorton, [e-mail]  801-489-8342
Bill Wright, [e-mail]  801-667-3333
It's especially important to call Rep. Frandsen!

No committee agendas are available for later in the week. Stay tuned!

Thanks, as always, for your support!

Sarah


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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:49:55 -0700
From: charles hardy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fw: Re: LEG-ALERTS 1/27 - Today's events, upcoming events, VOLUNTEERS  NEEDED!

all
==================================================================
Charles C. Hardy
<[e-mail]>

- --------- Forwarded message ----------
> PLEASE FORWARD!!
>
> 1. Today's events - SB 72
> 2. The Much-Awaited Crime Package
> 3. New bills
> 4. What you must do!
> 5. Upcoming events - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED!
>
>
> TODAY'S EVENTS - SB 72
>
>           Spencer is as slick as ever.
>           It's 13 pages long, and we were given barely a few minutes to
>read it.
>           (This is a ploy to make sure the public has no say when they
>actually vote, and that we don't know how they vote.)
>             """" of a controlled substance or metabolite in their
system
>was added.
>             Testifying in favor of the bill was Prosecutor Paul Boyden.
>           (We'll know for sure when we see the bill!)
>         1. Changing the commitment language to restrict rights for only
>those under a CURRENT order of commitment.
>         """"  (No revocation of rights for misdemeanors.)
>           (If someone is guilty of a felony, he's already prohibited
from
>possessing a gun, and someone guilty of a misdemeanor shouldn't lose his

>rights.)
>         ""   And would this mean the police would demand drug testing
for
>anyone found carrying a gun?)
>          "" "".
>            (They do still have to use the NICS federal background check
>though.)
>            And, of course, we don't yet know what the bill will
actually
say!
>
> ACTION:
> Contact Sen. Spencer and request that the public be given the
opportunity
>to comment on the final version of the bill.
>
>
> THE MUCH AWAITED CRIME PACKAGE
>
>         ""
>         "" "" "" "" mandatory storage requirement, or proficiency tests
>for concealed carry permits.
>           But don't relax - most of those gun control bills are still
on
>the table, and horrible new legislation can be introduced right up until
a
>few days before the end of the session.
>         "", see:
http://www.desnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,150009708,00.html
>(No, I'm not partial, but the Trib doesn't have its article up  yet!)
>
>
> NEW BILLS
>
> HB 91, Individual Income Tax Credit for a Residential Security
Container -
>Chad E. Bennion (R)
> http://www.le.state.ut.us/~2000/htmdoc/sbillhtm/SB0091.htm
>
>         "" bill would provide an income tax credit of up to $150 for
the
>purchase of a safe.
>
>           "" propaganda.
>           >> mandatory storage at all times
>            (It IS their business to keep people from breaking into
homes
>and stealing things, but they don't want to admit that part!)
>           Is this a proper role for Republicans and/or Conservatives?
>            Isn't this just another back door approach to registration?
>           So it's up to us to explain why a tax credit for gun safes is
>not a sound idea.
>
> SB 161, Restrictions on Weapons - Schools, L. Beattie (?R)
> http://www.le.state.ut.us/~2000/htmdoc/sbillhtm/SB0161.htm
> POSITION: Strongest possible opposition
>        Which is probably the point.
>
> SB 162, Restrictions on Weapons, Churches, L. Beattie (?R)
> http://www.le.state.ut.us/~2000/bills/sbillint/SB0162.htm
> POSITION: Strongest possible opposition
>
>            The criminals sure won't!
>
>           ""  Or maybe folks could just announce their sins as they
enter.
>
>
>             "".
>
>
> WHAT YOU MUST DO!
>
>    Insist that he withdraw these bills!
> Sen. Lane Beattie
> 319 State Capitol
> SLC, UT 84114-0111
> 801-292-7406 home
> 801-538-1400 Capitol
> 801-538-1414 fax
>
>  Remind him that we're counting on him to make sure NO gun control
bills
pass.
> Rep. Marty Stephens
> 318 State Capitol
> SLC, UT 84114-0116
> 801-731-5346 (home)
> 801-538-1930 (work)
> 801-538-1908 (fax)
> [e-mail]
>
>    Offer to suggest ideas for some legislation that will really benefit
>gun owners - but only if this bill dies!
> Chad Bennion 801-281-1607
>
> Dave Jones 801-582-8247
> Greg Curtis 801-943-3091
>  435-676-2214
> Bradley T. Johnson 435-529-3227
> Bill Wright 801-667-3333
> Brad King 435-637-7955
> Kory Holdaway 801-964-6360
> All can be reached at 801-538-1029
>
> 4. Call or write your OWN Senator and Representative!
>
>
> UPCOMING EVENTS
> Committee hearings
> Monday Jan. 31
>         8 AM - HB 176S2 Weapons Restrictions for Mentally Ill
>         8 AM - HB 245 Improving safety in public schools
>
> Tuesday Feb. 1
>         3 PM - HB 248 - Ban on guns in schools, churches, residences
>
>   Priority is HB 248, but whatever you can do is great!
> Please read the bill analyses and try to contact committee members over
>the weekend to express your opposition to these bills.
>
> VOLUNTEERS NEEDED!
>    Email or call 801-566-1067.
> Thanks again to those of you who attended committee hearings this week!
>
>    32 days left!
>
> Sarah
>
>
>   All information contained in these alerts is the responsibility of
the
>author, unless otherwise attributed.
> Leg-alerts can also be found at UTGuns,
http://www.UTguns.freeservers.com
>Please check out the new site!
>      Thanks!
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>changes are made and this message is left intact.
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