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utah-firearms-digest       Monday, July 5 1999       Volume 02 : Number 144




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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:14:57 -0600
From: "S. Thompson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: ALERT! KSL POLL ON HATCH!

Do you want "Gun-Grabber" Hatch to be your next president?

KSL Poll at http://www.ksl.com/radio/ demands your action!

Vote now!

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 99 09:12:00 -0700
From: [e-mail] (SCOTT BERGESON)
Subject: Re: FYI--Fw: Oldies & HCI

Talk about a business shooting itself in the foot -- this is one of
the most despotic Web sites I have encountered in a while. It is
entirely javascript, and absolutely demands a cookie to proceed.
Listen to KTKK 630AM rather than these fascists.

Scott

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:36:16 -0600
To: [e-mail]
From: charles hardy <[e-mail]>
Subject: FYI--Fw: Oldies & HCI

Charles C. Hardy
<[e-mail]>

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From: "David A. Gdog G" <GdGdog Gg Gdog Gdog Gdog>

Just thought I'd let you know that the radio station "Oldies 94.1" is
running commercials from Handgun Control Inc. I can't get through to
their web site from work to protest and it is the only computer access
I have. I thought maybe you could pass this info along to your E-Mail
group. The station's web site is www.oldies941.com. Maybe you could get
through and find an E-mail address and let us know.

Note from Dave:

I just called Tom Sly, who is the general manager of JACOR Broadcasting,
the company that owns Oldies 94.1. He says that he defends the playing of
the HCI ad in the name of freedom of speech. I pointed out to him that
many of us who listen to 94.1 grew up in the 50's, 60's, and 70's, and
that these ads leave a terrible taste in our mouths, since we believe
that HCI is attempting to subvert the Constitution, freedom, and the
right to self-defense. I explained that we listen to 94.1 for the
nostaligia of the old times, and that when ads condemning firearms are
run, it makes us turn off our radios. Since 94.1 is essentially a
business, I believe that their are shooting themselves in the foot by
running these ads. The email address of Oldies is

[e-mail]

Tom Sly can be reached at 908-1300, and he does return calls. A few
calls might help him avoid political hot potatoes?

The ads are ending as of June 22, 1999, says Tom.



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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 14:37:38 -0600
From: "David Sagers" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fwd: Rosie O'Donnell Call-In 1-800-RINGING (fwd)

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On Jun 23, David Wisniewski wrote:

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It seems that the Bell Campaign is teaming up with Rosie O'Donnell, in a
effort to boost Rosie's ratings and promote gun control.  On Thursday, =
June
24, call 1-800-RINGING and tell them how you feel.

From:
http://www.jointogether.org/sa/action/advancing_policy/alerts/reader.jtml?O=
bject_ID=3D259199

Dear friends and colleagues:=20

When Congress failed last week to close the gun show loophole, it proved
that the NRA is still
writing our nation's gun policy. The gun lobby is so entrenched in
Washington that it will take a
national citizen's movement to break the gridlock that is contributing to
93 deaths everyday.=20

The Bell Campaign is a national, grassroots organization created by
survivors of gun trauma to mobilize the majority of Americans who support
stronger gun laws. One of our founders, Mary Leigh Blek, will appear as a
guest on Rosie O'Donnell this Thursday, June 24, 1999.  Mary Leigh's son,
Matthew, was killed with a handgun during an attempted robbery in June
1994. During her appearance on Rosie, Mary Leigh will invite viewers to
help prevent gun death and injury, and support victims of gun trauma by
joining The Bell Campaign. She will
give out our toll-free number, 1-800-RINGING (1-800-764-4464) and web
address: http://www.bellcampaign.org=20

If you have 5 minutes: It is important that Rosie hear from you. We know
that she will get blasted
by pro-gun people for showcasing The Bell Campaign. Please send Rosie an
e-mail thanking her for informing her audience about ways they can help to
stop the gun epidemic. You can e-mail Rosie's through her web site by
clicking here. http://rosieo.warnerbros.com/cmp/mail.htm

If you have a little more time: Invite some friends over to watch Rosie on
Thursday, June 24. Call
your local newspaper, radio or TV station (especially ABC) and tell them
that you are having a 'Rosie watching party' to show your support for
stronger gun laws.

It is critical that the momentum started by the Columbine shootings =
changes
how our nation deals with gun policy. The single most important lesson of
the recent events in Congress is that meaningful gun policy change will =
not
happen until ordinary citizens hold elected officials accountable for =
their
votes. You can do that by
joining The Bell Campaign.

- --=20
David Wisniewski  RKBA & Official Kmart/Rosie O'Donnell Protest Page
[e-mail]   http://rosie.acmecity.com/happy/365

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:25:14 -0600
From: "David Sagers" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fwd: Asbestos Lawsuit Ruling to Have Gun Industry Impact?

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Nobanners,

The Supreme Court's 7-2 ruling in the challenge to a $1.5 billion asbestos
settlement involving the Dallas-based Fibreboard company may drive certain =
U.S.
gunmakers out of their recently forged alliance with the Clinton administra=
tion.

In the face of multiple product liability lawsuits, and with the proposed
federal tobacco settlement serving as a model, many gun manufacturers have =
been
distancing themselves from the 2A lobby in hopes of positioning themselves =
for a
better deal when the Gummint gets around to trying to establish a massive
mandatory gun liability settlement. Now that SCOTUS has declared such
settlements illegal, expect to see gunmakers going back to a harder line =
on many
of the gun-rights issues.

In another case (those who disparage the importance of having a Republican
president, take note!), SCOTUS also ruled once again in favor of states' =
rights,
with all the justices appointed by Democrats voting in the minority.

Kevin McGehee
Fairbanks/North Pole, AK
[e-mail]
http://www.mcgeheezone.com/

Visit The McGehee Zone Bookstore
http://www.mcgeheezone.com/capitalism/bookstore.htm




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Date: Sat, 03 Jul 99 17:18:00 -0700
From: [e-mail] (SCOTT BERGESON)
Subject: FW: GOUtah! Alert #18 - 1 July 1999 1/2

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From: Gavin Wallace <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: GOUtah! Alert #18 - 1 July 1999
Date: Fri, Jul 2, 1999, 11:34 PM

GOUtah!
Gun Owners of Utah

Utah's Uncompromising, Independent Gun Rights Network.
No Compromise. No Retreat. No Surrender. Not Now. Not Ever.

Visit our website at www.slpsa.org/goutah!

GOUtah! Alert #18 - 1 July 1999

Today's Maxim of Liberty:

"The State does not have rights in itself, but only possesses such powers
as are necessary to safeguard and uphold the rights of the citizens."
- -James Bovard, Author of Freedom in Chains, The Rise of the State and
the Demise of the Citizen, 1999

If you wish to be added to or taken off the GOUtah! list, please log onto our
website at www.slpsa.org/goutah! or send an e-mail to [e-mail] or
send a fax to [phone] asking to be added to or removed from the GOUtah!
list. If you wish to forward or share this copyrighted information with others,
you are welcome to do so, on the condition that you pass along the entire
document intact and unmodified, and that GOUtah! is clearly indicated as the
original source of the material, unless otherwise noted.

Leavitt, Stephens, Utah House GOP Float CCW Permit Compromise That Rapes
Your Right of Self Defense! Your Vocal Political Action is Needed TODAY!

The Utah print and broadcast media is widely reporting information indicating
the so-called 'pro-gun' stance of Utah House Speaker Marty Stephens appears to
be little more than shallow window dressing to placate gun rights advocates.
Stephens is reported to have crafted a compromise which will strip you of much
of the ability to protect yourself under the authority of a Utah CCW permit.
Here's what we understand has transpired to date, based on the best
information in hand at this time.

To recap, Governor Mike Leavitt has recently taken up the role of strident
gun control advocate, to make restrictions on gun ownership and CCW validity
a major agenda item as he positions himself for higher elected office or a
possible appointment in a future GOP federal administration. He has gone so
far as to call for a special session of the Utah Legislature to enact this
agenda. Utah conservatives in the House have opposed this anti-gun agenda,
as have the many GOP party delegates who publicly rebuked Leavitt and others
at the recent GOP State Convention in Ogden.

GOUtah! representatives, along with other gun-rights representatives, were
invited to an informal private meeting at the residence of Speaker Stephens
on 28 May 1999 to discuss the issue and to help formulate a rational response.
NRA/ILA Liaison Brian Judy was unable to attend due to a schedule conflict,
but submitted written NRA positions very close to the established GOUtah!
no-compromise stance. This meeting invitation came to GOUtah! from Utah GOP
Chairman and USSC-paid lobbyist Rob Bishop. The 28 May meeting was suddenly
canceled the night before, and was tentatively rescheduled for 16 June at
the Interim Legislative Hearings at the State Capitol. GOUtah! was never
informed of or invited to any other policy discussion or meeting with the
House Speaker, legislative leadership, legislators or other gun rights
activists on the 16th or at any time since.

However, some sort of high level gun policy discussion, without any GOUtah!
invitation or involvement, clearly took place at or about that time. Paul
Rolly in the 27 June issue of the Salt Lake Tribune discusses the situation
in more detail. (You may refer to the article on the Tribune's website at
www.sltrib.com)

GOUtah! also received a forwarded e-mail from reliable pro-gun sources that
apparently originated within the Utah Shooting Sports Council, outlining
the options proposed by House GOP leadership and asking for input from USSC
leadership. We assume the individual listed as "Woody" is Elwood Powell,
Chair of the USSC Board of Trustees. Rob Bishop is the paid USSC lobbyist,
and Brian Judy is the NRA/ILA Liaison for Utah. Those options appear here
exactly as received in the USSC e-mail message, typos and all.

"I did receive a call from Rob Bishop yesterday. Marty Stephens called him
about a deal. This evidently is a follow up on Rob's and Brian Judy's
impromptu meeting on Wednesday with Lane Beattie before the afternoon
interim session committee meetings.

The options Marty Stephens was calling about were these:

1. A special session with the house and the senate voing their conscience
on the gun issues with no muscle from leadership.

2. Ban guns in schools in exchange for a suit ban against manufactures,
dealers, instructors, etc.

3. Enact some kind of super concealed carry permit for schools on a "good
cause" showing to the Department of Public Safety. This was one of the
Governor's task force recommendations.

4. A referendum petition drive which will put the entire horizon of gun
restrictions on the ballot in November.

5. The last option was to do nothing in the gun area.

The question put to Rob Bishop was "what will we accept" short of do nothing?
Rob's tenative reponse without canvasing the Board was option 5.
What are your thoughts?

Woody"

It becomes clear that some substantial and dangerous 'wheeling and dealing'
with our gun rights is being proposed and conducted behind our backs at the
Utah State Capitol. GOUtah! will maintain our established position of no
compromise, no retreat and no surrender on these issues. In response to the
options listed above, GOUtah has the following comments:

1: A special legislative session is neither needed nor warranted, and as
such GOUtah! is firmly opposed to any special legislative undertaking
outside the normally-scheduled annual session. Any changes in the laws
should be by the regular legislative process.

2: As GOUtah! has clearly established in our Statement of Purposes and
Principles, "GOUtah! will never compromise one portion of our rights or
sacrifice one segment of the lawful gun-owning public to preserve or
protect the interests of another. We'll throw no one to the sharks in order
to buy time or curry political or media favor. We denounce anyone and any
organization which elects to do so."

As such, GOUtah! will seek to both protect CCW holders from any restriction on
their ability to possess a firearm for lawful self defense, and we will also
work toward legislation protecting legitimate firearms owners, instructors,
dealers and the firearms industry from all abusive or punitive lawsuits as
a matter of sound public policy. We will not trade one issue for the other,
and we will denounce anyone and any organization that does.

3: Establishment of a two-level permit system takes Utah gun owners right back
to the abusive DPS/BCI 'proving need' situation we so long endured before
earning 'shall issue' CCW legislation in 1995. The 'Super' CCW permitee would
clearly enjoy all the rights available to current permittees, and it would
undoubtedly be issued only to politicians, judges, prosecutors, lawyers,
agents of government, media and society VIPs and other elites, just as Utah
CCW permits were issued prior to 1995.

The 'average' Utah CCW permit holder, by contrast, would face an endless and
ever-expanding list of prohibited times, places and circumstances where their
permit was invalid, and therefore their ability to provide for their own
safety and the safety of their families would be seriously compromised. The
life of every Utah citizen has equal value. CCW permit holders are not second
class citizens, and we will not be treated as such! All the animals in the
Utah CCW barnyard are equal, period!

4: Any threatened referendum by anti-gun forces is irrelevant. The statewide
referendum undertaking is expensive, time consuming and likely far beyond
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Date: Sat, 03 Jul 99 17:18:00 -0700
From: [e-mail] (SCOTT BERGESON)
Subject: FW: GOUtah! Alert #18 - 1 July 1999 2/2

[ ...Continued From Previous Message ]
their ability to successfully execute. Further, any use of tax dollars, public
time or public facilities for furthering such an effort is likely illegal,
thus professional educators and other public servants would be severely
limited in their ability to further that effort in schools and other public
facilities. The pro-gun forces have won almost every public initiative battle
waged in the last several decades. We can win this one too, if needs be.

5: GOUtah! will also not sit by and 'do nothing.' We will be very active in
promoting and expanding the rights of Utah gun owners, and will offer an
aggressive legislative agenda to that end. If others wish to sit on the
sidelines and 'do nothing,' while claiming to be 'protecting your rights',
then let them. Utah's dedicated gun owners will do it for themselves, in
spite of the 'spineless' among the ranks.

So what's to be done to change this situation? Here's what you must do TODAY
to protect your gun rights. Please refer to the GOUtah! positions as listed
above in your contact with legislators and the media. Please remember to be
polite and respectful but firm and to the point in all your communications.

1: Call, write, email and if possible personally visit with both your elected
Utah State Senator and Representative and demand they do not infringe on your
rights of self defense or firearms ownership in any way. Further demand that
they do not support and not vote for holding any special legislative session
dealing with firearms issues.

2: Call, write, email and if possible personally visit with both Utah House
Speaker Marty Stephens and Senate President Lane Beattie, and let them know
where you stand as a firearms owner and CCW permit holder. They can be reached
at:

Rep. Marty Stephens, 3159 N. Higley Rd, Farr West, UT 84404, [phone]
Res, [phone] Off, [phone] Fax. Email: [e-mail]

Sen. Lane Beattie, 319 State Capitol, SLC, UT, 84114, [phone] Res,
[phone] Off, [phone] Fax, Email: [e-mail]

3: Call, write, email and if possible personally visit with Governor
Leavitt. He can be reached at:

Gov. Mike Leavitt, State Capitol, SLC, UT 84114, [phone], Email:
[e-mail]

4: Call, write, email and if possible personally visit with the leadership
and membership of your local gun club, your local gun store, and all other
interested groups, and spread the word about this issue and the dangers it
poses to all of our freedoms.

5: Call, write, email and personally visit your local newspaper editor or
editorial board. Write repeated 'letters to the editor' in support of your
gun rights. Call in to talk radio programs and spread the truth.

6: Share the GOUtah! message with all your pro-gun friends, family and
associates via fax, email, the internet and make photo copies of the GOUtah!
alerts to pass out to fellow gun owners at your club, range or gun store.

If you don't do it, it will not get done. It's your guns, your rights and
your freedom. Do it right now!

Utah CCW Permits Now Top 29,000. Utah DPS/BCI Begins Limiting Renewal
Services to All of Them.

The number of CCW permits in Utah reportedly now tops 29,000, and may
approach 30,000 as you read this. There has been a recent run on permits in
early 1999 as many gun owners seek to 'get in before the gate closes' on a
more restrictive CCW permit system.

GOUtah! is very supportive of a broad base of citizens lawfully carrying
firearms for self defense under the authority of a CCW permit, but we are also
concerned that this 'permit rush' smacks of the same 'panic buying' we all saw
during the looming approach of Brady and the 'assault weapon' and ammunition
magazine bans of the mid-1990s. At this time many individuals, rather than
redoubling their political efforts to help defeat the pending, and at that
time still defeatable bans, instead put their time, effort and resources into
buying up guns, magazines, ammo and the like as if the proposed bans were
already in place.

Because of that shift in priorities, from gun owners fighting the political
fight for freedom to admitting defeat in the middle of the battle, retreating
and 'panic buying' everything in sight, the political battle was lost. That
big 17 round magazine for your Glock pistol now costs $75.00 or more used, if
and when it can be found, while before the ban it was perhaps $25.00 or less
brand new. It's still at very best a $25.00 magazine, but due to far too many
gun owners admitting early defeat during the political battle, they now cost
everyone at least $75.00 today and perhaps twice that a year from now. It
shouldn't be that way. It didn't have to be that way. It's a clear case of
misplaced political priorities on the part of gun owners.

We believe we all should be putting our very best efforts and resources into
blocking any infringement or limitation on the time, place or circumstances
of the validity of any Utah CCW permit, rather than running out to get a CCW
permit and then sitting back and grumbling to anyone who will listen that the
CCW permit is now invalid for many of your necessary daily activities. Having
a heavily-restricted CCW permit is like having no permit at all, except you
have just submitted your fingerprints, photos, life history and a good chunk
of hard-earned cash to the government to get a worthless slip of plastic.
Don't get mad after the fact. Work harder now and you'll have nothing to be
mad about later.

We have also received word from Concealed Carry Specialists (CCS), Utah's
largest CCW trainers, that the Utah DPS/BCI administration as of 1 March
1999 will no longer be sending a renewal notice and application when your
CCW is about to expire. That means you must now monitor your CCW status and
renew without any reminder. We suggest you check your CCW permit now and
mark your calendars a couple of months prior to your renewal date and make
sure you're submitting your renewal in a timely fashion.

Further, according to CCS, DPS/BCI indicates they will allow only a 30 day
grace period after a permit expires to renew. After 30 days, you will have to
undergo the entire CCW application process again, except for the training
requirement. Photos, fingerprints, fees, notary and such will all have to be
resubmitted to get a new CCW permit.

It is doubtful that any other state issued license or permit is treated in
this abusive manner for renewal. It is clear that with the new regulatory
authority and fee setting granted to DPS/BCI by the 1999 Utah Legislature,
DPS/BCI intends to erect every possible roadblock, 'time and hassle tax',
excessive fees, and other administrative impediments to Utah citizens wishing
to exercise their right of self defense. This is unacceptable, and we suggest
you discuss the issue in great detail with your elected state Senators and
Representatives. GOUtah! will be working toward specific legislative remedies
to this issue in the next Utah legislative session.

GOUtah! Gun Rights (and Wrongs) Quote Watch

"I just don't see why we have to be concerned about the safety of a few
individuals who want to be armed in schools vs. the safety of the children."
- -- Bill Nash, Utahns Against Gun Violence, quoted in the Salt Lake Tribune,
29 June 1999

That concludes the GOUtah! Political and Legislative Alert #18, 1 July 1999. We
hope this information will be of assistance to you in defending your firearms
rights. Remember that getting this information is meaningless unless YOU ACT
ON IT TODAY. If you just read it and dump it in the trash, your gun rights,
and the gun rights of future generations go in the trash with it. Get involved,
get active and get vocal! Copyright 1999 by GOUtah! All rights reserved.



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Date: Sun, 04 Jul 99 11:20:00 -0700
From: [e-mail] (SCOTT BERGESON)
Subject: Special legislative session on guns urgently needed

Deseret News column from a local Quisling.

http://deseretnews.com/dn/print/1,1442,100009427,00.html

Deseret News, Sunday, July 04, 1999, 12:00 AM MDT

Special legislative session on guns urgently needed

By Sen. Scott Howell

The recent tragedy at Columbine High School has once again focused our
private and public energies on the issues of youth violence and firearms
control. Representatives of the Catholic, Presbyterian, Lutheran, United
Methodist, Disciples of Christ and Episcopal churches called for a special
legislative session to confront these issues soon after Columbine. The PTA
and LDS Church officials, while declining to comment on a special session,
have expressed similar concerns about guns.

As a responsible gun owner, I recognize and support the constitutional
right to bear arms. Not even the Second Amendment, however, condones
all types of weapons ownership; instead, it states "a well-regulated
militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of
the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

I do not believe that firearms-control legislation is a panacea that
will solve all of society's ills. The problem of violence, particularly
youth violence, is a complex issue involving everything from parental
responsibility to school safety to the entertainment industry. It would
be wrong to simply pass firearms-control legislation while ignoring the
other issues involved.

It would be equally wrong, however, to oppose new firearms-control
legislation just because it cannot solve the entire problem. We should
not target law-abiding gun owners. However, sensible reforms to keep
guns from kids and criminals are a vital part of any comprehensive
approach to solving the youth violence crisis.

Reasonable gun-control legislation need not be a partisan issue. Instead,
we should work together in a bipartisan manner to keep guns out of the
hands of children. The Republican speaker of the United States Congress,
Denny Hastert, commented, "I don't think kids, and that means anybody
under 21 years of age, ought to be able to get handguns; I think that
makes sense, and that's something I think that we can work on."

I believe that we should consider the following firearms-control measures:

1. We should encourage companies to continue developing "smart
technology" as a viable, marketable product which would enable
guns to recognize their owners. This technology could potentially
personalize weapons so that only an authorized owner could fire
the gun. Stolen guns would be rendered useless to criminals.

2. Juveniles involved in serious gun violations should not be
allowed to own firearms as an adult.

3. As Hastert urged, we should limit handgun purchases to those
over 21 years old. Federal law currently prohibits the sale of
handguns from licensed dealers to those under 21; This restriction
should apply to all who sell handguns, not just licensed dealers.

4. Background checks should be instituted at gun shows. This
would lengthen purchase time by only five or 10 minutes and
prevent criminals from acquiring firearms in this manner.

5. All background checks should include information on mental
illnesses and prevent those who are mentally ill from acquiring guns.

6. Guns should come equipped with trigger-locks to protect against
accidental shootings. Too often we read of children who are
accidentally killed while playing with guns that were improperly stored.

7. Churches, schools, hospitals and private-property owners should NOT
have to post signs prohibiting concealed weapons. Rather, respecting
the right of private-property owners, carriers of concealed weapons
should request permission to carry their weapons into these places.
I believe that there is simply no place for guns in churches, schools
or hospitals.

8. Plea bargaining violations from felonies to misdemeanors should
not be allowed except in very rare circumstances. When this is the
case, provision should be enacted to prohibit firearms purchase and
possession in the future.

The problems facing our society are about much more than guns. While
addressing reasonable gun-control legislation, we should not ignore
the "culture of violence" created and perpetuated by the entertainment
industry. Movies and music currently carry ratings and warning labels;
what about software and video games? Movie ratings themselves should
be tightened; extreme violence, not just graphic sex, should merit an
NC-17 rating. As parents, we all need to be more aware of what movies
our children are viewing, what video games they are playing and how
much TV they are watching. Ultimately parents are responsible for
their children.

Our young people are being constantly bombarded with images of filth
and violence. We need to address all of the issues involved in a
bipartisan manner to create a safe environment in which our children
can live and learn. For these reasons and more, I applaud the governor
for calling a special legislative session to set new public policy;
even if we can save just one life, that would be reason enough.


Scott Howell is Senate Minority Leader. Elected to the Utah Senate in
1990, he represents Senate District 8.

Copyright 1999, Deseret News Publishing Corp.


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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 99 14:32:00 -0700
From: [e-mail] (SCOTT BERGESON)
Subject: FW: Gun Facts Pamphlet1/2

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Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 18:20:07 EDT
From: Bob Stokes <[e-mail]>
To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[e-mail]>
Subject: [CTRL] Gun Pamphlet

Subject: Gun Facts Pamphlet

The following fact sheet is designed to be easily formatted for
pamphlet form, on 8-1/2x14 legal-size stock (I use Goldenrod or
Yellow). It can be folded in half, and then in half, again, to
provide a neat 2-sided, 4-paneled pamphlet.

Print this out for friends, family, and your elected officials,
and let them know the facts about gun-owners and their firearms,
NOT just hysterical propaganda!

You can insert your own club or organization's name at the bottom,
in place of the information about LAGR shown below. If you send an
SASE to me at LAGR's PO Box, I will send back a "master" copy
printed out on white legal-size paper, with a blank space in place
of LAGR's contact information, so that you can insert your own
group's contact information.

PAUL GALLANT

GUNS IN AMERICA: THE FACTS

...what the media WON'T tell you!!

Preventing law-abiding citizens from carrying firearms for self-
defense does not end violent crime - it just makes victims more
vulnerable! Society benefits from ordinary people who accept the
responsibilities of firearm ownership - not from gun-control laws.
Here's why:

SELF-DEFENSE & CRIME

* In 1990, a convicted felon could expect to serve the following
prison time: 1.8 years for murder, 60 days for rape, 23 days for
robbery, 6.7 days for arson, and 6.4 days for aggravated assault.
According to a U.S. Justice Department survey in 17 states, of
felony offenders placed on probation in 1986, 43% were rearrested
on other felony charges within 3 years of their release. (1)

* Passage of the Brady Law in 1994 has NOT been accompanied by a
statistically significant decline in murder or robbery. It has
been associated with significant increases in rape and aggravated
assaults, presumably from the increased difficulty encountered by
law-abiding citizens in obtaining firearms for self-defense. (2)

* In 1987, Florida's concealed-carry law went from "may-issue"
to "shall-issue" (also known as "Right-To-Carry", or RTC). This
meant that issuing authorities must provide a concealed-carry
handgun license to all qualified applicants. Other states
followed suit, and modeled their own RTC laws after Florida's.
On 4/7/98 (the latest date such figures were available),
Florida's Dept of Law Enforcement announced that the state's
murder rate had dropped, again, in 1997, just as it had in each
of the 5 previous years. The additional drop marked the lowest
murder rate experienced by "Dodge City East" since 1933. (3)

* In 1982, Kennesaw GA (pop. 17,000) passed a law requiring
heads of households to keep at least one firearm in their home,
exempting those with criminal records or religious objections.
Seven months after it took effect, the residential burglary rate
dropped 89%, vs. 10.4% statewide. Since 1982, only 2 murders
have occurred (1984 and 1989), both committed with knives. (4)

* Allowing citizens to carry concealed handguns reduces violent
crime. The reduction corresponds very closely to the number of
concealed-handgun licenses issued. On average, murder rates in
states banning concealed-carry are 127% higher than in states
having the most liberal carry laws. A 1% increase in firearm
ownership reduces violent crime by 4.1%. Large, densely populated
urban areas benefit the most from concealed-carry laws. (5)

* Ordinary, law-abiding Americans use guns defensively 2.5
million times, or more, each year. About 75% of these instances
are with handguns. That translates to rapes prevented, injuries
avoided, medical costs saved, and property protected. (6)

* Firearms provide the safest and most effective means of
resisting violent criminal attack. For robbery and assault,
resistance by defenders armed with a gun leads to termination of
the incident with the smallest chance of injury to the victim.
In U.S. gov't studies, victims resisting robbery with a gun were
injured 17.4% of the time. Those who did nothing at all were
injured 24.7% of the time. Those who used non-violent resistance,
like trying to run away, were injured 35.9% of the time. Those
who resisted with a knife were injured 40.3% of the time. For
assault, injury rates were 12.1%, 27.3%, 25.5%, and 29.5%,
respectively. While 17.4% of those who resisted robbery with a
gun were injured overall, this includes victims who were first
injured before they used their guns; less than 6% of robbery
victims were injured after using a gun to resist. (7)

* Women who carry concealed handguns provide a greater margin of
safety for other women. While murder rates decline when either
more men or more women carry concealed handguns, the drop is even
greater among women than among men. Rapists are particularly
susceptible to the deterrence of a potentially armed woman. (5)

* Increased incidents of "road rage" from allowing more citizens
to carry guns have not materialized. In the 31 states where it is
currently legal for citizens to carry a concealed handgun, there
have been no documented instances of such acts by armed
law-abiding citizens. (2)

* Armed defenders lose their guns to an attacker less than 1% of
the time. (7)

* The net value of private firearm ownership - the dollar savings
from defensive gun use, minus the costs of "gun-violence" - has
been estimated at up to $38.9 billion, annually. (8)

* So-called "assault weapons" are military look-alike semi-
automatic firearms, and are exactly the same as guns which have
been around for over 100 years -only their looks have changed.
Semi-automatic firearms do not "spray" bullets, and are not
machine guns - they require a separate pull of the trigger for
each shot to be fired, just like a revolver - and are used in
3% or less of all firearm-related crimes. They are the most
modern tools the law-abiding citizen can use for self-defense
and protection of home and family. They are especially valuable
for physically handicapped victims. (9)

* In 1856, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that local law-enforcement
had no duty to protect individuals, but only a general duty to
enforce the laws. (10) In 1982, the U.S. Court of Appeals held
that "there is no Constitutional right to be protected by the
state against criminals or madmen. The Constitution does not
require Federal or State government to provide services, even
so elementary a service as maintaining law and order."(11)

* In Great Britain, handguns are outlawed, and possession of long
guns is severely restricted. Yet, despite strict gun-control, as
of 1995, rates for robbery, assault, burglary, and motor vehicle
theft in England and Wales had surpassed those here in the States.
On average, for all 4 crimes, English rates were double U.S. rates.
(12)

MASS SHOOTINGS & "GUN-FREE" SCHOOL ZONES

* Deaths and injuries from mass public shootings (like Jonesboro
AR, and Littleton CO) fall dramatically after RTC concealed-
handgun laws are enacted. Where data was available both before
and after passage of such laws, the average death rate from mass
shootings plummeted by up to 91% after such laws took effect, and
injuries dropped by over 80%! (2,13)

* Armed with a hunting rifle, 16-year-old Luke Woodham killed his
ex-girlfriend and her close friend, then wounded 7 other students,
in 1997 at a high school in Pearl, Mississippi. Assistant Principal
Joel Myrick retrieved a handgun from his car, and interrupted
Woodham's shooting spree, holding him at bay until police arrived.
Earlier that morning, Woodham had stabbed his mother to death. (14)
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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 99 14:32:00 -0700
From: [e-mail] (SCOTT BERGESON)
Subject: FW: Gun Facts Pamphlet2/2

[ ...Continued From Previous Message ]
A similar script played out in 1998 in Edinboro, Pennsylvania,
when local merchant James Strand used his shotgun to "coax"
14-year old Andrew Wurst into dropping his gun, and surrendering
to police. Wurst had just killed one teacher, wounded another
and two classmates. (14)

* "...the recent rash of public school shootings...raise[s]
questions about the unintentional consequences of laws. The five
public school shootings [which occurred during the 1997-98 school
year] took place after a 1995 federal law banned guns (including
permitted concealed handguns) within a thousand feet of a school.
The possibility exists that attempts to outlaw guns from schools,
no matter how well meaning, may have produced perverse effects.
It is interesting to note that during the 1977 to 1995 period [of
our study], 15 shootings took place in schools in states without
right-to-carry laws and only one took place in a state with this
type of law. There were 19 deaths and 97 injuries in states
without the law, while there was one death and two injuries in
states with the law." (13)

* A July 1993 U.S. Department of Justice study found that "boys
who own legal firearms...have much lower rates of delinquency and
drug use [than those who obtained them illegally] and are even
slightly less delinquent than nonowners of guns." It concluded
that, "for legal gunowners, socialization appears to take place
in the family; for illegal gunowners, it appears to take place
'on the street'". (15)

ACCIDENTS & SUICIDES

* In 1994, fatal firearms accidents dropped 11% from 1993 figures,
to the lowest annual number since record-keeping began in 1903.
They dropped even lower by almost 7% in 1995. Motor vehicle
accidents, falls, fires, drownings, poisonings, suffocation, and
other accidents all accounted for more deaths than did firearm
accidents. Among children aged 0-14 years, there were 185 fatal
firearms accidents, vs. 500 per year in the mid-1970s. (16)

* In 1993, there were 1,334 drownings and 528 firearm-related
accidental deaths from ages 0-19. While firearms outnumber pools
by a factor of over 30:1, the risk of drowning in a pool is
nearly 100 times higher than from a firearm-related accident.
From ages 0-5, the risk of drowning skyrockets to 500 times the
risk from a gun! (16,17)

* "Trigger-lock" laws don't equal safety. While California has
such a law on the books, it saw a 12% increase in fatal firearm
accidents in 1994. Texas doesn't have one, and experienced a 28%
decrease, instead. (16) "Trigger-locks" do, however, render guns
inaccessible for self-defense.

* Accident and suicide rates are unaffected by the passage of
Right-To-Carry concealed handgun laws. (2)

* Suicide rates fluctuate independently of gun control laws and
gun ownership. Banning guns will not affect the suicide rate -
other equally deadly implements would only be substituted in
their place. (18)

THE U.S. CONSTITUTION

* The scholarship on the 2nd Amendment overwhelmingly agrees that
it protects an individual right to keep and bear arms, and not
simply the right to arm the "militia". (19) In 1982, the Senate
Subcommittee on the Constitution evaluated the historical record,
and unanimously came to the same conclusion. (20)

REFERENCES
1. Reynolds M, Caruth W; "Myths About Gun Control"; National Ctr
for Policy Analysis, 1992
2. Lott J; "More Guns, Less Crime: Understanding Crime and Gun-
Control Laws"; University of Chicago; 1998
3. Florida Department of State documents 4. "Kennesaw Update";
The New American, 6/10/96
5. Lott J, Mustard D; "Crime, Deterrence, and Right-to-Carry
Concealed Handguns"; Journal of Legal Studies; Vol 26(1); Jan 97
6. Kleck G, Gertz M; "Nature of Self-Defense with a Gun"; Journal
of Criminal Law and Criminology; Vol 86#1, Fall 1995
7. Kleck G; Targeting Guns: Firearms and Their Control; Aldine de
Gruyter; NY 1997
8. National Center for Policy Analysis, March 1999
9. Suter E; "Assault-Weapons" Revisited - An Analysis of the AMA
Report;Journal of the Medical Association of Georgia, May 1994
10. South v. Maryland, 59 US (HOW) 396, 15 L.Ed.433(1856)
11. Bowers v. DeVito, US Court of Appeals, 7th Circuit 686F.2d
616 (1982)
12."Crime and Justice in the United States and England and Wales,
1981-1996"; U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics; October 1998
13. Lott J, Landes W; "Multiple Victim Public Shootings, Bombings,
and Right-to-Carry Concealed Handgun Laws: Contrasting Private and
Public Law Enforcement"; University of Chicago,Working Paper #73, 1999
14."How to Stop Mass Public Shootings"; Lott J; The L.A. Times 3/25/98
15. U.S. Department of Justice
16. National Center for Health Statistics
17. National Spa and Pool Institute
18. Suter E; "Guns in the Medical Literature: A Failure of Peer Review";
Journal of the Medical Association of Georgia, Mar 1994
19. Reynolds H, Kates D; "The Second Amendment and States' Rights:
A Thought Experiment"; William & Mary Law Review; Vol 36 #5,8/955
20. Senate Subcommittee of the Commission of the Judiciary on The
Constitution, 97th Congress, 1992

FOR MORE INFORMATION, CONTACT: The Committee for Law-Abiding
Gun-Owners, Rockland [LAGR] Paul Gallant, O.D., Chairman PO Box
354 Thiells, NY 10984-0354 914-354-9090 914-354-9091 Fax E-Mail:
[e-mail] 05/99

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