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Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 16:29:01 -0600
From: "David Sagers" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fwd: Re: SEE THE FUTURE? Cal DOJ SKS "buy back" confiscationprogram begins

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Subject: Re: SEE THE FUTURE? Cal DOJ SKS "buy back" confiscation
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#1-- To the EVC list members this is what happens when the socialists win
elections!!

#2-- MCers in Calif -- We need to make BIG POSTERS [yes I'm shouting] WITH
THE AUSTRALIAN gun confication pics and get them out!! Themes to be
discussed on MC General.

#3-- Fairfax -- Can U help with #2?? Or shall we wing it??

#4 -- N.Cal KSFO fans - I left a message with Geoff Metcalf -- So Cal
contact your talk show hosts.

#5--  Those in other states wish us luck -- we need it!

Regards Ron Babcock -- Pres. MC Vallejo -- EVC Ca. CD-01

At 05:44 PM 5/31/99 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:
>DOJ has begun the implementation of the SKS Sporter confiscation program. =
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>See it for yourself at the DOJ website:
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>http://www.sksbuyback.org/content.html
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>Need any more reasons to become politically active?!
>
>Chuck Michel
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>


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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 10:06:56 -0600
From: "David Sagers" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fwd: Paul Harvey on Littleton

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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:44:33 -0400
From: David Adams <[e-mail]>
Subject: Paul Harvey on Littleton
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PAUL HARVEY ON LITTLETON


Paul Harvey read this Letter to the Editor on his  news cast a couple of
weeks ago. It was tracked down on the Internet through the San Angelo
Standard - Times; give them full credit  for this article.

4/27/99
How can we blame it all on guns?


For the life of me, I can't understand what could have gone wrong in
Littleton, Colorado. If only the parents had kept their children away from
the guns, we wouldn't have had such a tragedy. Yeah, it must
have been the guns.

It couldn't have been because of half our children being raised in broken
homes.

It couldn't have been because our children get to spend an average of 30
seconds in meaningful conversation with their parents each day.  After =
all,
we give our children quality time.

It couldn't have been because we treat our children as pets and our pets =
as
children.

It couldn't have been because we place our children in day care centers
where they learn their socialization skills among their peers under the =
law
of the jungle while employees who have no
vested interest in the children look on and make sure that no blood is
spilled.

It couldn't have been because we allow our children to watch, on the
average, seven hours of television a day filled with the glorification of
sex and violence that isn't fit for adult consumption.

It couldn't have been because we allow our children to enter into virtual
worlds in which, to win the game, one must kill as many opponents as
possible in the most sadistic way possible.

It couldn't have been because we have sterilized and contracepted our
families down to sizes so small that the children we do have are so =
spoiled
with material things that they come to equate the
receiving of the material with love.

It couldn't have been because our children, who historically have been =
seen
as a blessing from God, are now being viewed as either a mistake created
when contraception fails or inconveniences that parents try to raise in
their spare time.

It couldn't have been because we give two-year prison sentences to
teenagers who kill their newborns.

It couldn't have been because our school systems teach the children that
they are nothing but glorified apes who have evolutionized out of some
primordial soup of mud by teaching evolution as fact and by
handing out condoms as if they were candy.

It couldn't have been because we teach our children that there are no laws
of morality that transcend us, that everything is relative and that =
actions
don't have consequences. What the heck, the president
gets away with it.

Nah, it must have been the guns.

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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:58:28 -0600
From: "David Sagers" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fwd: Rush Limbaugh Advertizement Parody

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From: David Adams <[e-mail]>
Subject: Rush Limbaugh Advertizement Parody
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I have a feeling that many of you have heard this on Rush but just in =
case,
I thought you might enjoy it.  You must have "RealPlayer 5.0 to open the
file (which only runs on Windows 95 and Pentium or higher processors).=20
RealPlayer can be downloaded from the web free if you have not already
retrieved a copy.

If you have a hard time opening the attachment, go to:

http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/9693/parodies/rush.html

and scroll down to Second Amendment to play it.

Rush has spent a lot of time on our issue since this began in mid May, =
more
than I think anything other than impeachment.

Enjoy

David Adams
NRA-ILA-EVC, VA 7th
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/8358/



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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 15:14:21 -0600
From: "David Sagers" <[e-mail]>
Subject: TESTIMONY OF FATHER OF VICTIMS

TESTIMONY OF DARRELL SCOTT FATHER OF TWO VICTIMS OF COLUMBINEHIGH SCHOOL =
SHOOTING LITTLETON, COLORADO BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEEON CRIME HOUSE =
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE UNITED STATES HOUSE OFREPRESENTATIVES.THURSDAY, MAY =
27,19992:00 P.M. 2141 RAYBURN HOUSE OFFICE BUILDINGSince the dawn of =
creation there has been both good and evilin the heart of men and of =
women. We all contain the seedsof kindness or the seeds of violence.The =
death of my wonderful daughter Rachel Joy Scott, and thedeaths of that =
heroic teacher and the other children who diedmust not be in vain. Their =
blood cries out for answers.The first recorded act of violence was when =
Cain slew his brotherAbel out in the field. The villain was not the club =
he used.Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The =
truekiller was Cain and the reason for the murder could only be foundin =
Cain's heart.In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed =
athow quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA.I am =
not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even owna gun. I am =
not here to represent or defend the NRA - because Idon't believe that they =
are responsible for my daughters death.Therefore I do not believe that =
they need to be defended. If Ibelieved they had anything to do with =
Rachel's murder I would betheir strongest opponent.I am here today to =
declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy -it was a spiritual event =
that should be forcing us to look atwhere the real blame lies!Much of that =
blame lies here in this room. Much of that blame liesbehind the pointing =
fingers of the accusers themselves..I wrote a poem just four nights ago =
that express my feelings best.This was written way before I knew l would =
be speaking heretoday. Your laws ignore our deepest needs Your words are =
empty air. You've stripped away our heritage. You've outlawed simple =
prayer. Now gunshots fill our classrooms. And precious children die. You =
seek for answers everywhere. And ask the question "WHY"? You regulate =
restrictive laws. Through legislative creed. Add yet you fail to understand=
. That God is what we need!Men and women are three part beings. We all =
consist of body, soul,and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third =
part of ourmakeup, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and =
hatredto rush in and wreak havoc.Spiritual influences were present within =
our educational Systemsfor most of our nation's history. Many of our major =
colleges beganas theological seminaries. This is a historic fact.What has =
happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor Godand in doing so, =
we open the doors to hatred and violence.And when something as terrible as =
Columbine's tragedy occurs,politicians immediately look for a scapegoat =
such as the NRA.They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws =
thatcontinue to erode away our personal and private liberties.We do not =
need more restrictive laws. Eric and Dylan would nothave been stopped by =
metal detectors. No amount of gun laws canstop someone who spends months =
planning this type of massacre.The real villain lies within our OWN =
hearts. Political posturingand restrictive legislation is not the =
answers.The young people of our nation hold the key. There is a spiritualaw=
akening taking place that will not be squelched!We do not need more =
religion. We do not need more gaudy Televisionevangelists spewing out =
verbal religious garbage. We do not needmore million dollar church =
buildings built while people with basicneeds are being ignored.We do need =
a change of heart and an humble acknowledgment thatthis nation was founded =
on the principle of simple trust in God.As my son Craig lay under that =
table in the school library and sawhis two friends murdered before his =
very eyes. He did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy any law or =
politician to denyhim that right!I challenge every young person in America =
and around the world torealize that on April 20, 1999 at Columbine High =
School - - prayerwas brought back to our schools. Do not let the many =
prayersoffered by those students be in vain.Dare to move into the new =
millennium with a sacred disregard forlegislation that violates your =
conscience and denies yourGod-given right to communicate with Him. To =
those of you who would point your finger at the NRA - I giveto you sincere =
challenge. Dare to examine your own heart beforeyou cast the first =
stone!My daughter's death will not be in vain. The young people of =
thiscountry will not allow that to happen.


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Date: Sun, 06 Jun 99 14:19:00 -0700
From: [e-mail] (SCOTT BERGESON)
Subject: FW: Australia Shamed!

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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:45:22 -0600
Subject: FW: Austrailia Shamed!
From: "Jim Dexter" <[e-mail]>

" IF WE OUTLAW GUNS, ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE THEM!"

(http://communities.msn.com/outdoors/magazines/firearms/1/australia.asp)

Australia after Gun Confiscation

The following is a synopsis of an interview conducted by Ginny Simone
with Keith Tidswell of Australia's Sporting Shooters Association.

One year after gun-owners were forced to surrender 640,381 personal
firearms to be destroyed, including semi-automatic .22 rifles and
shotguns, a program costing the government over 500 million dollars,
the results are in...

A dramatic increase in criminal activity has been experienced. Gun
control advocates respond, "Just wait... we'll be safer... you'll see..."

OBSERVABLE FACT, AFTER 12 MONTHS OF DATA:
 * Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2%
 * Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6%
 * Australia-wide, armed-robberies are up 44% (yes, FORTY-FOUR PERCENT)

* In the state of Victoria, homicides-with-firearms are up 300%. Figures
over the previous 25 years show a steady decrease in homicides-with-firearms
(changed dramatically in the past 12 months)

* Figures over the previous 25 years show a steady decrease in
armed-robbery-with-firearms (changed dramatically in the past 12 months)

* There has been a dramatic increase in breakins-and-assaults-of-the-elderly

* At the time of the ban, the Prime Minister said "self-defense is not a
reason for owning a firearm"

* From 1910 to present, homicides in Australia had averaged about
1.8-per-100,000 or lower, a safe society by any standard.

* The ban has destroyed Australia's standings in some international
sport shooting competitions

* The membership of the Australian Sports Shooting Association has risen
to 112,000, a 200% increase, in response to the ban and as an attempt to
organize against further controls, which are expected.

* Australian politicians are on the spot and at a loss to explain how no
improvement in "safety" has been observed after such monumental effort
and expense was successfully expended in "ridding society of guns".
Their response has been to "wait longer".

"...The best organization you've got there, the biggest organization
you've got there is the NRA. We don't have an organization that size.
We didn't have an organization that size, and as a consequence, we
suffered. And we hope that you don't suffer..."



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Date: Sun, 06 Jun 99 14:19:00 -0700
From: [e-mail] (SCOTT BERGESON)
Subject: SO YOU REALLY WANT TO SHOOT THAT GUN!!! 1/2

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Subject: [GOA-Texas] Article from Northy in Canada - Gun Control Nightmare
To: [e-mail]

SO YOU REALLY WANT TO SHOOT THAT GUN!!!

It is September, 1998 in Anytown, Canada. You walk past the local gun
store, and, acting on impulse go back, step in and fall in love! There,
locked behind glass, is the gun of your dreams. That special handgun you
KNOW is going to make you look good on the range. And the price is just
too good to be true! It feels custom-made for your hand, and with a great
deal of joy you say, "Wrap it up, I'll take it!"

Thus you have unknowingly taken the first step in a road becoming less and
less traveled....

The first thing you are asked is, "Can I see your FAC?" While you look
blankly the salesman, he says again he wants to see your Firearms
Acquisition Certificate. While you are still looking blankly at him,
he starts explaining to you.

"A firearms Acquisition Certificate (FAC) is required before you can
purchase any firearm here in Canada. If you don't have a valid FAC, you
must get one, and when you have it, you come back and I will sell you the
gun. By the way here is a list of instructors."

Feeling a bit let down, you take the paper and mumble your way back home,
and start phoning.

FAC Instructors and Examiners are certified by the Federal Government to
teach and test for FAC's. You discover that you have to take a minimum of
12 hours of classes, and two tests, one written and one practical to prove
you have basic firearms knowledge, and supposedly some safety knowledge as
well. Cost $100-125. Finally you find someone who is putting on a course
in the next week who has an opening, so you leap at it. After all, you
don't know enough about the current legislation to challenge the course,
so feel this is the best plan. Time passed since you saw the gun - 1
week. You take the course, think it's interesting, but seems to be too
repetitive and doesn't really attend to safety too much, but what the
heck, now you can go get your gun. Wrong! Course takes two weeks spread
out over several evenings - Cost to date: $125.00 - time passed 3 weeks.

You make your first trip to your local police department to get the forms
you need to fill out to apply for the FAC. This four page triplicate form
is an imposing 8.5"x14" and asks such questions as what colour are your
eyes, blue green, gray, hazel or maroon? **Maroon? Just where do they
think you come from?** They ask about your private life, family life,
health, finances, relationship breakups, prior brushes with the law and
about medications you may be taking. Severe penalties are dispensed if
you lie on this form, it warns ominously. You also have to acquire the
oaths of two people who have know you for more than three years who think
it's ok if you have a gun... BUT... they must be of certain "Classes" of
people.. Doctors, lawyers, military officers, tribal band leaders, fellow
employees, hair dressers, clergy or your (married to you) spouse (common-
law, while good enough to ding you for taxes is not good enough to sign as
a character witness). There goes another week! Time passed - 4 weeks.

So you take your recently acquired certification of course completion; two
passport photos of yourself ($12.00); the fee for an FAC application which
is non-refundable ($50.00) and the completed application form to your local
police department. Again, you get excited thinking the gun is now yours.

Wait!! The police officer takes your money, application, etc. and says
"OK it'll come in the mail if you qualify. We keep it here for 28 days
before we even start to process, most are taking 6-7 months to come back"
SIX TO SEVEN MONTHS!! In that time frame the police will contact your two
endorsers and grill them about you, they will check your neighbours to see
what they think of you (**nothing like letting the whole neighbourhood
know you will have guns on premises) they will call your employer, and
lastly, but not least they call up any ex's in your last two year time
frame and ask them if they feel alright about your owning firearms!!!
But it's the law.. What can you do? (Cost to date: $187.00 +14% tax).

You are one of the lucky ones, your FAC arrives in a speedy six months.
Full of joy you rush down to the gun store to finally buy your gun. With a
flourish you present your FAC and plunk your money down, drooling over
your new toy. The salesman carefully writes down reams of information on
his receipt book, name, address, gun stats, numbers, and on and on, and
you bounce from foot to foot in anticipation. You sign a big legal book
stating you have actually purchased this firearm, the salesman takes your
money and hands you the sales slip and smiles. "When you get your Permit
To Register come back and we will give you your gun." Stunned you once
more go to your local police department. Of course you don't live near
the gun store, and have to go to the police in your jurisdiction so waste
another day or two there, but we won't count those. Time passed - 7 months.
[ Continued In Next Message... ]


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Date: Sun, 06 Jun 99 14:19:00 -0700
From: [e-mail] (SCOTT BERGESON)
Subject: SO YOU REALLY WANT TO SHOOT THAT GUN!!! 2/2

[ ...Continued From Previous Message ]
The police take your sales slip and tell you to come back the next day or
so, and they will have the Permit filled out for you. Getting really
frustrated you come back two days later, and they ask what time you want
on the Permit. They guestimate it takes 1 hour from the gun store to the
police department.. So they give you a specified time span of 1.5 hours to
complete the task. To the cop shop? "Yes, you have to bring the gun back
here for verification." So off you go to the gun store, show the salesman
the Permit and he says, "OK, where's your case and locks?" Numbly you hand
over money for a small gun case; one trigger lock and one case lock. ($40.00)
You notice the time and drive through heavy traffic and get to the cop shop
barely within the specified time. You open the case, and the officer carefully
inspects the firearms verifying all the numbers. You are planning some weekend
shooting tomorrow. Wrong. The officer smiles, locks the case and walks off
with it saying, "When you Registration Certificate comes in the mail from
Ottawa, phone us and let us know and we will start the next step.. Have a
nice day!" Cost to date: $227.00 +14% tax (not including the firearm), time
passed (and now we will count those days last week.. 7 months, 1 week!
And you are getting REALLY ***** *** (angry).

Patience has worn extremely thin by now, but at this point you have invested
quite a bit of money, so you wait... and wait... and wait. Finally anywhere
from 3-6 months later, your green registration slips arrive from Ottawa (we
will use 3 months in our count). Ecstatic, you race down to your local police
department to claim your gun... finally! Time passed: 10 months 1 week)

There you are informed that before you can pick up your gun, they must do one
more check and make sure there are no restraints against you... after all it
has been months now!! The next day, getting really cranky, you go down to the
police and FINALLY, you can take you gun home with you on a Permit to
Transport... but again it has a very short time span. As you are leaving,
you comment that "Finally I can go shooting!!" "Wait", says the officer, "do
you have a valid Permit to Carry? Firearms Licence? Club Membership Card?
Need those before you can go out and use that thing!" WHAT?????

As ****** ** **** (more angry) you slam into the house, chuck the locked
case in the gun safe and start dialing your local gun club. Yes you can
get a membership for $50, and yes they will sign an application for a
Permit to Carry stating you are a member in good standing... but not until
next month's meeting. It will take about 3 month's to get the Permit
back, and you can not go to the range without one, they remind you the
penalty is 2 years in jail and a hefty fine!!! Livid you go to a sporting
goods store and buy the Firearms Licence issued by the Provincial
Government (**knowing damn well it is just a tax grab), and they nail you
another $21.00. By now you are furious.

At the club meeting 3 months later you finally get your Permit to Carry.
Time passed: 13 months - Cost: $298.00 + 14% taxes NOT INCLUDING ANY
FIREARM OR AMMO.

Finally you can go to the range. But somehow, the thrill of discovery 13
months ago just isn't there.

___ *** ___ *** ___ *** ___

On October 1, 1998 the Firearms Act came into effect in Canada. It is
supposed to decrease the time and trouble to acquire all the above. It is
all computerized, fast, fool-proof and efficient. **and if you believe
that, I have a bridge for you. In the next installment, I will tell you
what's new, what's not working, and what's coming down the chute.

DON'T THINK FOR A SECOND BECAUSE YOU ARE IN AMERICA YOU ARE EXEMPT FROM
THIS STUPIDITY... YOU ARE NOT!!

ALL THIS IS HEADING YOUR WAY..Ms. Brady et.al. Are out to get you. It is
vital you fight for your rights. You will soon see there is more to this
than losing your guns... YOU ARE LOSING YOUR FREEDOM!!

DON'T STOP FIGHTING.. EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. WRITE TO YOUR LEGISLATORS..
The only thing they fear more than an armed citizen is a lost vote. Tell
them how you will vote... many times over. JOIN THE POLITICAL PARTY OF
THOSE DOING THE MOST HARM TO YOU.... fight them from the inside. WRITE
LETTERS... remember each letter is one count, multi signed letters, even
with ten signatures is one count. Send ten letters! JOIN GROUPS THAT
SUPPORT FOREARMS OWNERSHIP ... (even if they ticked you off in Littleton
by backing off).. they are all you have.

You will see in the next installment, it get's worse. So fight, fight, fight!!!

Northy in Canada - and yes, I'm female. :)

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Date: Sun, 06 Jun 99 14:19:00 -0700
From: [e-mail] (SCOTT BERGESON)
Subject: GOUtah! Alert #15-1 June 1999 1/2

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GOUtah! Alert #15-1 June 1999

Today's Maxim of Liberty:

"The freemen of America will remember, that it is very easy to change a
free government into an arbitrary, despotic, or military one: but it is
very difficult, almost impossible to reverse the matter -
very difficult to regain freedom once lost."

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Philadelphia, March 5, 1788

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Gun Control Bills Now Move To The U.S. House. Utah's Republican
Representatives Need To Be Contacted Today!

The stridently anti-gun Juvenile Crime bill has passed the U.S. Senate and
now will be debated in the U.S. House of Representatives. The leadership of
the Republican-controlled body have indicated they intend to support much
if not all of the Senate anti-gun measures and add a few of their own. It
sounds like 1968 all over again.

Orrin Hatch, as the bill's Senate floor manager, was also the leading
Republican Senate compromiser, inviting the anti-gun forces in both parties
to load the bill with additional gun control measures, including Brady
background checks on private party sales gun shows and pawn redemptions,
stepped up enforcement of federal gun laws, huge budget increases for BATF,
ammunition magazine import bans, mandatory gun locks, prohibitions of
juvenile possession of some types of firearms and similar draconian
restrictions.

It is critical that you contact your U.S. Congressional Representatives and
demand that they vote against any further restriction on your rights to keep
and bear arms. Make it clear to them that if they choose not to protect your
rights, there will be a heavy political price paid at the polls in the next
election. Please call early and often on this issue.

You may reach Utah's U.S. Congressional Representatives at the following
addresses, telephone and fax numbers, and by e-mail:

Congressional District 1: Northern and Western Utah, except Salt Lake Metro

Rep. Jim Hansen (R)
242 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
Phone [phone]
Fax [phone]
E-mail: www.house.gov
click on Members and select Jim Hansen

Local Office: 324-25th Ave.
Ogden, Utah 84401
Utah Phone: [phone]
Utah Fax: [phone]

Congressional District 2: Salt Lake Metro Area

Rep. Merrill Cook (R)
1431 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515-0001
Phone [phone]
Fax [phone]
E-mail: [e-mail]

Local Office: 125 South State Street
Salt Lake City, Utah 84138
Utah Phone: [phone]

Congressional District 3: Central and Eastern Utah

Rep. Chris Cannon (R)
118 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515-4403
Phone [phone]
Fax [phone]
E-mail: [e-mail]

Local Offices: 51 South University Drive
Provo, Utah 84606
Utah Phone: [phone]
Utah Fax [phone]

Congressman Chris Cannon Proposes Pro-Gun Amendment

Utah's Chris Cannon (R-3rd Dist) intends to propose a pro-gun amendment
designed to force the Department of Justice to "immediately" destroy all
records of Brady background checks for those individuals who have no
disqualifying background and pass the check. Currently the FBI is reported
to be retaining all Brady records for some 6 to 18 months for 'audit
purposes.' Cannon's amendment also limits the time period for a law
enforcement response to a blocked sale from 5 to 3 working days. GOUtah!
has been in discussions with Congressman Cannon's staff and have also
suggested that his amendment address the following points:

- -Create a permanent, independent oversight and audit board to review and
insure Federal compliance with record destruction on an ongoing basis,
comprised of the GAO, along with gun rights and civil liberty organizations,
which will report to Congress on regular intervals, not to exceed every six
months.

- -Prohibit the use of any funds, public or private, for developing or
maintaining any such gun records in violation federal law. Create a budget
'defunding' penalty equal to twice the amount any federal agency might
spend on such record keeping programs in violation of federal law. Create
specific civil and criminal penalties for any federal employee, agent or
appointee who directs or implements any such record keeping in violation of
federal law.

- -Prohibit the creation or maintenance of any federal database of gun owners
or firearms owned, based in whole or in part on the 'out of business' records
of the hundreds of thousands of FFLs who were driven out of business by the
current administration's anti-gun policies. Order the destruction of any
central online database based on these records which may currently exist.

GOUtah! asks you to contact Rep. Chris Cannon and encourage him to adopt
the points listed above in his amendment as it works its way through
drafting and into the committee and floor process.

Gov. Leavitt Calls For Special Gun Session In Fall Of 1999

Governor Leavitt intends to call for a special session of the Utah Legislature
to consider Utah gun laws in the Fall of 1999. If he cannot get a majority of
Utah legislators to support the special session, it will not take place.

GOUtah! asks every Utah gun owner and concerned citizen to immediately and
repeatedly contact their state representatives and senators at home and
again urge them to take a measured and rational approach to these issues,
rather that blame peaceable gun owners for the deep seated ills of our
society. We must now work overtime to avoid a special session of the Utah
Legislature, which would likely devolve into a free-for-all legal and media
circus which will ride roughshod over our gun rights.
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Date: Sun, 06 Jun 99 14:19:00 -0700
From: [e-mail] (SCOTT BERGESON)
Subject: GOUtah! Alert #15-1 June 1999 2/2

[ ...Continued From Previous Message ]
Please remember to attend the Utah Interim Legislative Committee hearings on
Wednesday, 16 June 1999 at 2:00PM in Room 303 of the Utah State Capitol. It is
critical we be there in force! Make your voice heard to protect your rights!

Reviewing the Lessons of Gun Control History
Submitted by GOUtah! Activist B.D.

The Soviet Union established gun control in 1929. From 1929 to 1953, 20
million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up
and exterminated.

Turkey established gun control in 1911. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million
Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938. From 1939 to 1945, 13 million
Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, mentally ill people, and other "mongrelized
peoples," unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political
dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan
Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000
Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, 1 million
"educated people," unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.

Those who do not learn from the lessons of history are bound to learn those
same lessons first-hand.

GOUtah! Gun Rights (and Wrongs) Quote Watch

"I urge you to trust and believe in your local law enforcement officers and
to trust and believe in the courage of following your heart and
surrendering your fear and anger.''

- -- Actress Sharon Stone, urging Americans to follow her lead by giving up
their privately owned firearms,Yahoo! News Oddly Enough Headlines Notable
Quotes, Friday May 21, 1999. Submitted by GOUtah! Webmaster Martin Glantz.

"Fear is the path to the dark side...fear leads to anger...anger leads to
hate...hate leads to suffering."

- --Jedi Master Yoda, the fictional character in the newest "Star Wars" movie
as quoted in the Salt Lake Tribune, 15 May 1999. (Perhaps Ms. Stone was taking
the Star Wars fictional character's advice just a little too literally...Yoda
is just an animated puppet, Ms. Stone, not a moral sage for the ages.)

"Freedom-loving Americans better wake up to the fact that we're fighting
against a wave of massive government intrusion."

- --Wayne LaPierre, Executive Vice President, National Rifle Association. as
quoted in the NRA American Guardian Magazine, February 1999

"They ought to take him out and shoot him with a .44 Bulldog."

- --Spike Lee, the well-known African-American film director, quoted as
advocating the destruction of the National Rifle Association, and apparently
the deliberate, cold-blooded murder of its elected president, Charlton
Heston, in comments made to reporters at the 1999 Cannes Film Festival.

"Nowhere else do I see them trying to exploit the tragedies (in Littleton,
Colorado and other recent shootings) as much as they are in Utah. It seems
to be coming from the Governor's office."

- --Brian Judy, NRA/ILA state liaison to Utah, in an interview published 31
May 1999 in the Salt Lake Tribune.

I'm not one who wants my child going to a school where the way we protect
children is to arm teachers."

- --Governor Michael O. Leavitt, describing himself as a "very strong
defender of the Second Amendment" as quoted in the same article published
in the Salt Lake Tribune, 31 May 1999.

"The fact that I support these measures in no way detracts from my ardent
support of the right of an American to own and even operate a gun."

- --Rep. Merrill Cook, the Republican Congressman for Utah's 2nd District,
explaining why he intends to vote in favor of drastic gun control
measures, including mandatory background checks on all gun buyers, along
with child safety locks on all handguns and raising the minimum age for
firearms purchases to 21, as quoted in an interview in the Salt Lake
Tribune, 31 May 1999. The article also noted that Rep. Cook received
$62,105.00 in direct donations and independent expenditures on his
behalf from the National Rifle Association during his 1998 re-election bid.

"The gun-violence problem is more than the problem of guns in the hands of
bad people. It's also a problem of guns in the hands of good people."

- --Dennis Henigan, a representative of the Center to Prevent Handgun Violence.
as quoted by Peter J. Boyer in a recent issue of The New Yorker magazine.

"It's time for a national dialogue."

- --Bob Templeton, Owner of Crossroads of the West Gun Shows, indicating his
support for Brady background checks on private party firearms purchasers at
gun shows., Salt Lake Tribune, 22 May 1999. (Note: Mr. Templeton is also a
long-time member of the Board of Trustees of the Utah Shooting Sports Council)

"Habitual Republican lack of discipline and strategy collided last Thursday
with a barely hidden Democratic agenda of eventual gun confiscation. The
result was a political windfall that had Democrats giddy."

- --Robert Novak, describing the Republican-controlled U.S. Senate's headlong
retreat from protecting gun rights, Chicago Tribune, 24 May 1999

"...guns should be thought of as pathogens, and gun ownership, perhaps, as
a disease."

- --Peter J. Boyer paraphrasing statements made by Dennis Henigan, a
representative of the Center to Prevent Handgun Violence, in a recent issue
of The New Yorker magazine.

If you have a gun rights quote you'd like to share, please send it, along
with a verifiable original source reference to GOUtah!

That concludes the GOUtah! Political and Legislative Alert #15 - 1 June
1999. We hope this information will be of assistance to you in defending
your firearms rights. Remember that getting this information is meaningless
unless YOU ACT ON IT TODAY. If you just read it and dump it in the trash,
your gun rights, and the gun rights of future generations go in the trash
with it. Get involved, get active and get vocal! Copyright 1999 by GOUtah!
All rights reserved.




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