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From: Eric Herrmann <[e-mail]>
Subject: (sgclegacy) Welcome to the PAF v5 for MacOS X mailing list
Date: 11 Jul 2001 20:24:34 -0600

So you're asking what did I just get subscribed to?

The sgclegacy is an old mailing list I've had laying around XMission that
hasn't been used in a couple years. So I thought I would recycle it.

I was going to create a new list to discuss this PAF thing with but I
thought it ought to have some sort of cool/code name or something. When we
have one I'll change the name.

Just thought it would be easier this way to have a discussion.

BTW, on this list is:
    Eric Herrmann <[e-mail]>, Sorenson Media
    Mel Walker <[e-mail]>, Prosoft
    Barry Watts <[e-mail]>, Financial Fusion
    Keith Lund <[e-mail]>, Red Rock

(Maybe you'd like to introduce yourselves.)

I've known Keith off-and-on for around 22 years since playing Melee and
Wizards in junior high. Mel and I worked together at Novell and Iomega for 5
years. And Barry worked with Mel and I at Iomega for 1-2 years.

If there are others you know who would like to be involved in some way have
them subscribe to this list. It will be a good place to exchange ideas until
a website is actually needed. :)

I think it will be good to have a large pool of talent involved as not
everyone will have time to always be coding.

So I'd like to get an initial group together of around a half to a full
dozen. Come up with a plan of what we'd like to do. And then make a pitch to
the Church.

I'm playing this whole thing by ear right now, so I'm very open to
suggestions.

Any questions? suggestions?

--
Eric Herrmann
<[e-mail]>


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From: Mel Walker <[e-mail]>
Subject: (sgclegacy) What the?
Date: 12 Jul 2001 10:09:36 -0600

What is this mailing list? I don't recall signing up for it.

--
Mel Walker <[e-mail]>
"Wise men learn more from fools than fools from the wise." - Chinese Proverb


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From: Keith Lund <[e-mail]>
Subject: (sgclegacy) OK, let's talk
Date: 12 Jul 2001 11:03:03 -0600

So I am curious if this project is a humanitarian (free) or is there
designs about some monetary reward in the end?

I could use the money, but the Church is probably not going to let us
look at the source code and generate a for profit produce.  Old code is
over rated anyway.  We could just look at the existing products and
design something better.  Maybe some server-client interaction so as your
relatives do their work you can see the results on your computer.

Keith

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From: Eric Herrmann <[e-mail]>
Subject: (sgclegacy) Welcome (doh!)
Date: 12 Jul 2001 12:02:56 -0600

Everyone,

Sorry for any confusion. I sent a beautiful welcome message last
night, but apparently it arrived before majordomo finished
sub_scribing everyone.

I thought a list would be a good way to communicate. Also sort of a
way to know who's in and who's out.

Why sgclegacy? It's an old mailing list I had laying around not being
used. So I'm recycling it until I know what to call the new list. Any
name suggestions?

Here on the list are:
    Mel Walker, Prosoft
    Keith Lund, Red Rock
    Barry Watts, Financial Fusion
    Eric Herrmann, Sorenson Media

I've known Keith off-and-on for 22 years. Mel and I worked at Novell
and Iomega for 5 years. And Barry worked with Mel and I at Iomega for
about 2 years.

If you know others might have an interest, let them know about the
list and I'll subscribe them.

--
Eric Herrmann
<[e-mail]>H

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From: Bill Peters <[e-mail]>
Subject: (sgclegacy) Re: PAF
Date: 12 Jul 2001 12:09:34 -0600

Hi Eric (and everyone else),

I got your message through Keith and thought I would tell you what I knew.

I contacted Steve Canon (the guy in charge of the project ) about
doing the same thing back in March. He gave me the same story. I told
him I would do the work as a hobby and gave him a proposal for the
first phase of the work.

One thing they wanted was a better installer. Apparently they are
paying royalties for the one they are using right now. I built a
simple one using stuffit and agreed to let them use it royalty free
if they wanted. Nothing more ever happened though. I think they are
too busy with the windows version to really care about the mac.

There are two other things they wanted in phase one, but I'd have to
look through my old emails to get the details. One was a better
GEDCOM importer, but I can't remember the other.

Tuesday I talked to a lady on the bus who works at church HQ. She
told me about the turn of events and told me to contact Steve to get
the source. I tried unsuccessfully yesterday and planned to try again
this afternoon.

So in short, I would be interested in joining the group. My mother in
law has been after me for several years to do something about PAF,
and this effort would really make her happy.

If someone else is already in contact with Steve, that's fine. If
not, I'll let him know there is a group of five of us ready to take
on the project.

Thanks,
Bill Peters



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From: Eric Herrmann <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (sgclegacy) Re: PAF
Date: 12 Jul 2001 12:36:05 -0600

>I got your message through Keith and thought I would tell you what I
knew.

Good to have you on board. Aren't you also at Red Rock?

> Tuesday I talked to a lady on the bus who works at church HQ. She
> told me about the turn of events and told me to contact Steve to get

> the source. I tried unsuccessfully yesterday and planned to try
again
> this afternoon.

Which turn of events?

Have you looked at the source?

Do we have some place we can put the source?
Anybody have a favorite repository?

> So in short, I would be interested in joining the group. My mother
in
> law has been after me for several years to do something about PAF,
> and this effort would really make her happy.

I've tried to get my mom to use Reunion, but she just doesn't like it.
PAF is the only thing for her.

> If someone else is already in contact with Steve, that's fine. If
> not, I'll let him know there is a group of five of us ready to take
> on the project.

I've never had contact him other than my father speaking to him.
If you want to be our point of contact with Steve, that's fine with
me.

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<[e-mail]>

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From: Bill Peters <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (sgclegacy) Re: PAF
Date: 12 Jul 2001 12:42:37 -0600

>  >I got your message through Keith and thought I would tell you what I
>knew.
>
>Good to have you on board. Aren't you also at Red Rock?

Still there. This is just my private email.


>  > Tuesday I talked to a lady on the bus who works at church HQ. She
>>  told me about the turn of events and told me to contact Steve to get
>
>>  the source. I tried unsuccessfully yesterday and planned to try
>again
>>  this afternoon.
>
>Which turn of events?
>
>Have you looked at the source?
>
>Do we have some place we can put the source?
>Anybody have a favorite repository?

I'm not too sure on the details. I gathered it was a budget meeting
where they they decided _not_ to allocate any money for the mac
version of PAF. The lady that I know is actually on the PAF crew and
is (I think) in charge of QA for the windows version. She has
volunteered her services to help with usability testing and QA.

Otherwise, I don't have the source. I do have an ftp site where we
could put it, though, if no one else has a better place.


>  > So in short, I would be interested in joining the group. My mother
>in
>>  law has been after me for several years to do something about PAF,
>>  and this effort would really make her happy.
>
>I've tried to get my mom to use Reunion, but she just doesn't like it.
>PAF is the only thing for her.
>
>>  If someone else is already in contact with Steve, that's fine. If
>>  not, I'll let him know there is a group of five of us ready to take
>>  on the project.
>
>I've never had contact him other than my father speaking to him.
>If you want to be our point of contact with Steve, that's fine with
>me.

I'll call him after lunch and see if I can get the source from him.
Probably some legal hoops to jump through first, though.

Bill


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From: Keith Lund <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (sgclegacy) Re: PAF
Date: 17 Jul 2001 10:03:42 -0600

So Bill, did anything happen on talking to Steve?

Keith

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From: Keith Lund <[e-mail]>
Subject: (sgclegacy) Changed Email Addresses
Date: 17 Jul 2001 10:18:02 -0600

Not that you guys care, but FYI.  I changed my subscribed email address
from [e-mail] to [e-mail].  It's my alter ego.

Keith

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From: Bill Peters <[e-mail]>
Subject: (sgclegacy) Re: PAF
Date: 17 Jul 2001 10:56:55 -0600

Well, nothing official yet. When I talked to him Thursday afternoon
he reaffirmed the church position on funding (that there wouldn't be
any) and that he needed some time to find out what we would be
allowed to do on the project. I'm supposed to call him back on Friday.

However, he did seem interested in the project and in helping us out.
I think there's a good chance of us getting going on it soon. I'll
let you know more when I talk to him this week.

Bill



>So Bill, did anything happen on talking to Steve?
>
>Keith
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