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roswell-digest         Tuesday, April 25 2000         Volume 01 : Number 028




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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 23:45:40 -0400
From: "Mel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square"

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Well...let's see...I can't write too much b/c I have a big midterm at 8am
YUCK!  But anyway...I must agree about the Tess/Max chemistry...nothing
there! I didn't like the rushing of Alex and Isabel, but I am sooo glad it
happened finally. Alex is so cute...I would so go out with him. "You're
beautiful you know that..." Awww...he is just too adorable!

Michael and Maria scenes were few and far between but I loved when they
kissed at school and you could see veryone watching in the background...and
Maria looked a lil embarrassed (I liked that).

Liz and Max definiely seem to be drifting a bit. Seems like Liz doesn't have
as much faith as she is telling herself she has,huh? Max, though he is being
"controlled" should be doing a little more to repair the damage done by his
kiss....I know, I know..he was like posessed (you know what I mean), but
still..I am such a dreamgirl and I can honestly say I was getting a little
agravated with both Liz and Max in tonight's episode...not sure why...just
wishing they were back in Sexual Healing or Crazy.

Kyle was great...I wish they would show more of him...I loved how he and Liz
had that little discussion in the Crashdown and how he wanted so badly to be
all over Tess in the library...He is so over trying to figure out Liz! Thats
great..move on Kyle.

My suggestion for future seasons:
After saying what I have thus far, I have to admit, if Michael and Isabel
get together...which I do not want, I think Alex and Maria should get
together...just my opinion.  I think that is far from ever happening..b/c
honestly, I would like to see Michael be with Liz before Isabel...after
maybe a second season that is...just to spice it up.

Fave quote as of right now (mentioned earlier): what can I say, I LOVE
Alex/Colin
"You're beautiful you know that..." Not just the quote, but Alex in
general...LOL

Now to study...gotta watch this episode again tomorrow!

Mel

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  Subject: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square"


  Hey Guys,

  Well, I just can't say enough about how I'm loving the new direction that
the show is taking. The last three episodes have been so suspenseful and
well written and the thought of the WB cancelling the show gets more
ludicrous by the week. I can only hope that they've watched these last three
episodes closely to see how the initial sci-fi aspects have intensified.
Having said that, another good episode. I have to admit that I found some
plot lines slightly confusing, but I did like that the story arc has been
moved along and that some questions are starting to get answered. Here are
some thoughts and observations:

  1) Michael and Isabel: Well, I have to admit that at first there was a
very high ick factor in my mind about this coupling. To me, Isabel and
Michael might as well be brother and sister. But then I saw them together,
both in "reality" and in the dream plane tonight, and I have to say that
there is a certain...something there. I don't know if it's chemistry or not
but there is certainly a nice rapport between the two.There's an easiness to
their togetherness that I like. Now don't get me wrong. I'm not saying they
should be a couple, but the thought is less heinous to me now. I will now
duck from the rocks thrown at me from the Candygirls ;) I am slightly
confused about their "pregnancy" dream but that's later.

  2) The notion of destiny versus fate again: I'm sorry to beat a dead horse
here but I am really loving what the writers are doing here by pinning
destiny and fate against each other. From what I gleaned from tonight's
episode, Tess is implying that she is Max's destiny. That somehow, they are
"meant" to be together. Though, I'm not a big fan of Emilie's acting, I do
like how she's mixed up the pot a bit. Since the inception of the show,
we've been led to believe that Max and Liz are soulmates( a thought that I
still hold on to). It's fascinating that the writers have now decided to
sort of pull the rug out from under us and challenge that completely. Yes,
he's "loved" her since the 3rd grade but are they supposed to be together? I
got a lot of great responses from you last time that fate and love can
change destiny in the blink of an eye, but I guess my question is, when does
destiny become fate and vice versa then? Who's to say that Max wasn't
supposed to save Liz and then she and Max weren't supposed to be together?
Couldn't the shooting have been destiny? Couldn't it have been in the plan?

  3) Tess versus Liz: As an extension of the destiny/fate discussion, I love
how diametrically different Liz and Tess are feeling right now about how
things are supposed to be. According to Liz, "You are who you choose to be.
You're with who you choose to be with" while Tess feels that Max must be
with her because it was ordained in some way. It was really interesting to
see these two women, trying desperately to rationalize what was going on
inside of Max. It was really quite sad though to see how they are both
clinging to the hope that Max will realize who his true soulmate is, while
Max is like a deer caught in the headlights.

  4) Aliens vs. Humans: I thought that tonight's episode really broke down
what is inherently wrong with the Max and Michael relationship. Now more
than ever, I feel as if these two guys would never even speak to each other
had it not been for their shared alien ancestry. Max has embraced his
"human" side and is somewhat apprehensive of learning more about his "alien"
side. Michael is the complete opposite, constantly feeling alien and
alienated. Their confrontation in the kitchen, with both accusing the other
of being afraid to be who they really are was intense and revealing. Neither
one trusts the other right now. Secrets are being kept and lies being told.
There really is no middle ground for them. It's either do it my way or no
way. I look forward to seeing how they can get back to being as close as
they once were, if it is possible at this point.

  5) The relationships in Roswell:
  A) Max and Liz: This couple, as of now, is in trouble. Though it kills me
to say that, it's true. It's sort of like they're both in emotional limbo
and they have no idea how to get out of it. How sad was it when Liz asked
Max what it was like to kiss Tess? Though she's trying not to, she's
starting to doubt Max and she's starting to doubt herself in subtle ways. It
hurts to see them this way simply because they had finally found some
semblance of normalcy.
  B) Michael and Maria and Alex and Isabel: I am putting these two couples
together because I found them both really disturbing tonight. While I'm glad
that Isabel finally made the move on Alex and Michael finally said the "r"
word with Maria, I would have hoped that these actions would have been
prompted by the undying dedication and devotion that Maria and Alex have
shown and not out of fear or confusion about their dreams. I just wanted
them to be less "used." Alex and Maria have proven how much they care for
their aliens and yet it takes a couple of dreams to prompt Michael and
Isabel into action? I would have definetly preferred to see this done
differently.
  C) Max and Tess: I swear, I don't know if it's because they haven't worked
together for very long but I feel nothing when they're on the screen
together. I hated their big confrontation scene by the rock formation. This
is one couple that really lacks chemistry. I don't feel as if they have this
primordial connection. I don't feel as if they belong together. This is
really making that storyline ring very hollow for me.

  6)Favorite Scene: The Crashdown Cafe scene where Liz revealed  to Max that
she was scared of Tess. I loved the way Max said, "So am I" when Liz
disgustedly said, "She's[Tess]an alien, Max" . Max looked so wounded and
hurt in that moment and it seemed that for the first time, Liz was actually
regrettting getting involved with an alien.

  7) This mysterious "pregnancy": This to me was the most difficult leap in
logic. It's bizarre to me that based on one dream, Isabel would think that
she was pregnant with Michael's child. My first instinct would have been
that the dream was premonitory. I really don't know what to think of this
one yet. Would love to hear from you guys about this because it has me
completely befuddled.

  8) The anti-climatic ending?: Did anyone else feel that the ending wasn't
nearly as dramatic as it could have been. I kinda felt that the big reveal
wasn't nearly as big as it was supposed to be. Though I felt slightly bad
for Tess that she was left behind by the other three aliens, I didn't really
feel anything even close to remorse. Again, this could be because I don't
feel as if Tess has ingratiated herself to the group in any real emotional
way. Not sure about this.

  Some minor thoughts:
  A) How great was Kyle tonight? Nick HAS to get more screen time!! "Can't
beat a blonde" He's so funny :)
  B) Trust Valenti Dammit!!! He's more than proven to me that he's a worthy
ally. It's about time they start trusting someone because the aliens need
help.
  C)Is anyone catching the lesbian undertones that permeate the Isabel and
Tess scenes? What's up with that?
  D) Where are the parents? What's going on here?

  Weekly Shallow post: Okay, did anyone else not love that Jason was in not
only two different tight t-shirts but a tank top too? Again, I'm not a
religious person, but PRAISE JESUS :) Oh and why do they continue to dress
Tess as if she's going to a disco? I know the wardrobe people are trying to
make her the opposite of Liz but come on. Did Brendan get a hair cut? It
looked different. Cute but different.

  I would probably give this a 7.5 out of a 10. Next week looks INCREDIBLE.
It also looks like a wonderful opportunity for Jason to shine. Can't wait. I
can't believe we have to wait a whole week again :) Take care all! Gina :)



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  "...And now I think it's kind of funny that you say you love me. You tell
me that I'm crazy and
      then smile. And now I think I'll get through the end of the world...."
Chantal Kreviazuk

  "...Well it's always fun and games until you realize that you don't have
the skill in keeping the gag
       from going too far..."     Aimee Mann

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big midterm at 8am YUCK!  But anyway...I must agree about the =
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class=3D986553203-25042000>Michael and Maria scenes were few and far =
between but I=20
loved when they kissed at school and you could see veryone watching in =
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class=3D986553203-25042000>Liz=20
and Max definiely seem to be drifting a bit. Seems like Liz doesn't have =
as much=20
faith as she is telling herself she has,huh? Max, though he is being=20
"controlled" should be doing a little more to repair the damage done by =
his=20
kiss....I know, I know..he was like posessed (you know what I mean), but =

still..I am such a dreamgirl and I can honestly say I was getting a =
little=20
agravated with both Liz and Max in tonight's episode...not sure =
why...just=20
wishing they were back in Sexual Healing or Crazy.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D986553203-25042000></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D986553203-25042000>Kyle=20
was great...I wish they would show more of him...I loved how he and Liz =
had that=20
little discussion in the Crashdown and how he wanted so badly to be all =
over=20
Tess in the library...He is so over trying to figure out Liz! Thats =
great..move=20
on Kyle.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D986553203-25042000></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D986553203-25042000>My=20
suggestion for future seasons:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D986553203-25042000><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D986553203-25042000>After saying what=20
I have thus far, I have to admit, if Michael and Isabel get =
together...which I=20
do not want, I think Alex and Maria should get together...just my =
opinion. =20
I think that is far from ever happening..b/c honestly, I would like to =
see=20
Michael be with Liz before Isabel...after maybe a second season that =
is...just=20
to spice it up.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D986553203-25042000><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D986553203-25042000><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D986553203-25042000>Fave quote as of=20
right now (mentioned earlier): what can I say, I LOVE=20
Alex/Colin</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D986553203-25042000><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D986553203-25042000>"You're beautiful=20
you know that..." Not just the quote, but Alex in=20
general...LOL</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D986553203-25042000><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D986553203-25042000></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D986553203-25042000><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D986553203-25042000>Now to=20
study...gotta watch this episode again=20
tomorrow!</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=3D986553203-25042000> </SPAN><BR><B>From:</B>=20
  [e-mail]=20
  [mailto:[e-mail]]<B>On Behalf Of=20
  </B>kaycomp<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 24, 2000 11:09 =
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  [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four=20
  Square"<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT size=3D3>Hey Guys,</FONT></FONT><FONT =

  size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT size=3D3></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
  size=3D3></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3>Well, I just can't say enough about how I'm loving =
the new=20
  direction that the show is taking. The last three episodes have been =
so=20
  suspenseful and well written and the thought of the WB cancelling the =
show=20
  gets more ludicrous by the week. I can only hope that they've watched =
these=20
  last three episodes closely to see how the initial sci-fi aspects have =

  intensified. Having said that, another good episode. I have to admit =
that I=20
  found some plot lines slightly confusing, but I did like that the =
story arc=20
  has been moved along and that some questions are starting to get =
answered.=20
  Here are some thoughts and observations:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3>1) <STRONG>Michael and Isabel</STRONG>: Well, I =
have to=20
  admit that at first there was a very high ick factor in my mind about =
this=20
  coupling. To me, Isabel and Michael might as well be brother and =
sister. But=20
  then I saw them together, both in "reality" and in the dream plane =
tonight,=20
  and I have to say that there is a certain...something there. I don't =
know if=20
  it's chemistry or not but there is certainly a nice rapport between =
the=20
  two.There's an easiness to their togetherness that I like. Now don't =
get me=20
  wrong. I'm not saying they should be a couple, but the thought is less =
heinous=20
  to me now. I will now duck from the rocks thrown at me from the =
Candygirls ;)=20
  I am slightly confused about their "pregnancy" dream but that's=20
  later.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3>2) <STRONG>The notion of destiny versus fate =
again</STRONG>:=20
  I'm sorry to beat a dead horse here but I am really loving what the =
writers=20
  are doing here by pinning destiny and fate against each other. From =
what I=20
  gleaned from tonight's episode, Tess is implying that she is Max's =
destiny.=20
  That somehow, they are "meant" to be together. Though, I'm not a big =
fan of=20
  Emilie's acting, I do like how she's mixed up the pot a bit. Since the =

  inception of the show, we've been led to believe that Max and Liz are=20
  soulmates( a thought that I still hold on to). It's fascinating that =
the=20
  writers have now decided to sort of pull the rug out from under us and =

  challenge that completely. Yes, he's "loved" her since the 3rd grade =
but are=20
  they supposed to be together? I got a lot of great responses from you =
last=20
  time that fate and love can change destiny in the blink of an eye, but =
I guess=20
  my question is, when does destiny become fate and vice versa then? =
Who's to=20
  say that Max wasn't supposed to save Liz and then she and Max weren't =
supposed=20
  to be together? Couldn't the shooting have been destiny? Couldn't it =
have been=20
  in the plan? </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3>3) <STRONG>Tess versus Liz</STRONG>: As an =
extension of the=20
  destiny/fate discussion, I love how diametrically different Liz and =
Tess are=20
  feeling right now about how things are supposed to be. According to =
Liz, "You=20
  are who you choose to be. You're with who you choose to be with" while =
Tess=20
  feels that Max must be with her because it was ordained in some way. =
It was=20
  really interesting to see these two women, trying desperately to =
rationalize=20
  what was going on inside of Max. It was really quite sad though to see =
how=20
  they are both clinging to the hope that Max will realize who his true =
soulmate=20
  is, while Max is like a deer caught in the headlights.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3>4) <STRONG>Aliens vs. Humans</STRONG>: I thought =
that=20
  tonight's episode really broke down what is inherently wrong with the =
Max and=20
  Michael relationship. Now more than ever, I feel as if these two guys =
would=20
  never even speak to each other had it not been for their shared alien=20
  ancestry. Max has embraced his "human" side and is somewhat =
apprehensive of=20
  learning more about his "alien" side. Michael is the complete =
opposite,=20
  constantly feeling alien and alienated. Their confrontation in the =
kitchen,=20
  with both accusing the other of being afraid to be who they really are =
was=20
  intense and revealing. Neither one trusts the other right now. Secrets =
are=20
  being kept and lies being told. There really is no middle ground for =
them.=20
  It's either do it my way or no way. I look forward to seeing how they =
can get=20
  back to being as close as they once were, if it is possible at this=20
  point.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3>5) <STRONG>The relationships in Roswell</STRONG>: =
<BR>A) Max=20
  and Liz: This couple, as of now, is in trouble. Though it kills me to =
say=20
  that, it's true. It's sort of like they're both in emotional limbo and =
they=20
  have no idea how to get out of it. How sad was it when Liz asked Max =
what it=20
  was like to kiss Tess? Though she's trying not to, she's starting to =
doubt Max=20
  and she's starting to doubt herself in subtle ways. It hurts to see =
them this=20
  way simply because they had finally found some semblance of=20
  normalcy.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3>B) Michael and Maria and Alex and Isabel: I am =
putting these=20
  two couples together because I found them both really disturbing =
tonight.=20
  While I'm glad that Isabel finally made the move on Alex and Michael =
finally=20
  said the "r" word with Maria, I would have hoped that these actions =
would have=20
  been prompted by the undying dedication and devotion that Maria and =
Alex have=20
  shown and not out of fear or confusion about their dreams. I just =
wanted them=20
  to be less "used." Alex and Maria have proven how much they care for =
their=20
  aliens and yet it takes a couple of dreams to prompt Michael and =
Isabel into=20
  action? I would have definetly preferred to see this done=20
  differently.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3><FONT color=3D#000000>C) Max and Tess: I swear, I =
don't know=20
  if it's because they haven't worked together for very long but I feel =
nothing=20
  when they're on the screen together. I hated their big confrontation =
scene by=20
  the rock formation. This is one couple that really lacks chemistry. I =
don't=20
  feel as if they have this primordial connection. I don't feel as if =
they=20
  belong together. This is really making that storyline ring very hollow =
for me.=20
  </FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT size=3D3></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
  size=3D3></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3>6)<STRONG>Favorite Scene</STRONG>: The Crashdown =
Cafe scene=20
  where Liz revealed  to Max that she was scared of Tess. I loved =
the way=20
  Max said, "So am I" when Liz disgustedly said, "She's[Tess]an alien, =
Max" .=20
  Max looked so wounded and hurt in that moment and it seemed that for =
the first=20
  time, Liz was actually regrettting getting involved with an alien.=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT size=3D3></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
  size=3D3></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT size=3D3>7) <STRONG>This mysterious=20
  "pregnancy</STRONG>": This to me was the most difficult leap in logic. =
It's=20
  bizarre to me that based on one dream, Isabel would think that she was =

  pregnant with Michael's child. My first instinct would have been that =
the=20
  dream was premonitory. I really don't know what to think of this one =
yet.=20
  Would love to hear from you guys about this because it has me =
completely=20
  befuddled.</FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT size=3D3></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
  size=3D3></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3>8) <STRONG>The anti-climatic ending</STRONG>?: Did =
anyone=20
  else feel that the ending wasn't nearly as dramatic as it could have =
been. I=20
  kinda felt that the big reveal wasn't nearly as big as it was supposed =
to be.=20
  Though I felt slightly bad for Tess that she was left behind by the =
other=20
  three aliens, I didn't really <STRONG>feel </STRONG>anything even =
close to=20
  remorse. Again, this could be because I don't feel as if Tess has =
ingratiated=20
  herself to the group in any real emotional way. Not sure about=20
  this.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D3></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D3>Some minor thoughts</STRONG>: =
</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3>A) How great was Kyle tonight? Nick HAS to get =
more screen=20
  time!! "Can't beat a blonde" He's so funny :)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3>B) Trust Valenti Dammit!!! He's more than proven =
to me that=20
  he's a worthy ally. It's about time they start trusting someone =
because the=20
  aliens need help.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3>C)Is anyone catching the lesbian undertones that =
permeate=20
  the Isabel and Tess scenes? What's up with that?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3>D) Where are the parents? What's going on here?=20
</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000><STRONG><FONT size=3D3>Weekly Shallow =
post</STRONG>:=20
  Okay, did anyone else not love that Jason was in not only two =
different tight=20
  t-shirts but a tank top too? Again, I'm not a religious person, but =
PRAISE=20
  JESUS :) Oh and why do they continue to dress Tess as if she's going =
to a=20
  disco? I know the wardrobe people are trying to make her the opposite =
of Liz=20
  but come on. Did Brendan get a hair cut? It looked different. Cute but =

  different.</FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT size=3D3></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
  size=3D3></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3>I would probably give this a 7.5 out of a 10. Next =
week=20
  looks INCREDIBLE. It also looks like a wonderful opportunity for Jason =
to=20
  shine. Can't wait. I can't believe we have to wait a whole week again =
:) Take=20
  care all! Gina :)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3><FONT color=3D#000000></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT size=3D3></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
  size=3D3></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT=20
  =
size=3D3>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^=
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^=
^^^^^^^^^^^^^<BR>"...And=20
  now I think it's kind of funny that you say you love me. You tell me =
that I'm=20
  crazy and <BR>    then smile. And now I think I'll get =
through=20
  the end of the world...."    Chantal=20
  Kreviazuk</FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT size=3D3></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
  size=3D3></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"" size=3D3>"...Well it's always fun =
and games=20
  until you realize that you don't have the skill in keeping the=20
  gag<BR>     from going too =
far..."    =20
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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 22:59:51 -0500 (CDT)
From: [e-mail] (JOYCE DATES)
Subject: Re: [roswell] Tonights episode...

well in answer to your question cassandra, the spoliers for the end of
the season  is that liz walks away from max so that he could fulfill his
destiny. now about tonight's episode it was very exciting but kind of
sad.i just can't believe or imagine max,michael,or isabel with anybody
other than who they're with right now.i'd probably stop watching if they
put them with different people.like i said before tess is a nice
addition but i think that she should be with kyle.they make such a cute
couple.it look like the thing between max and tess and isabel and
michael were forced.

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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 00:20:50 -0400
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Subject: [roswell] [Fwd: [All-Roswell] VENTS  LOTS OF VENTING about tonights epi]

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Could someone please elucidate how Isabel got knocked up? Aside from the
logistics, don't get me wrong, if my sister looked like her I'd consider breaking
the incest taboo, but I just don't see them together.

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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 23:24:58 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square"

"kaycomp" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> tonight's episode, Tess is implying that she is Max's destiny. That =
> somehow, they are "meant" to be together. Though, I'm not a big fan of =

Meant by whom?

One guess I had partway through was that Nacedo wants the aliens to stick
together, and pair off, and the Orb has other plans.  What, I'm not sure.  But
something chose to guide them to the Orb _through Liz_.  I want to believe
something's going on there.

Possibly it's not Nacedo, and Tess really was manipulating them herself.  Or
Tess and Nacedo have had contact.

And, of course, people could just be making stuff up: Tess thinks Max is
destined for her because of their experience in the pod chamber and because
she wants him and there are only four aliens and they should pair off.  Me, I
don't believe in fate or destiny.  There's history and contingency and choice
and chance.  And for a shapeshifting species, mostly choice.

But, hey.  If Tess was left behind, she was probably captured by the troops we
see in the Orb's memory.  Well, guess she wasn't dissected.  But it makes the
idea that her 'father' is or military and knows what she is more plausible.

But, hey two.  Governmental infighting: the Army has Tess, and the FBI is
still scrabbling for contact.  Multiple players, multiple motives.

> A) Max and Liz: This couple, as of now, is in trouble. Though it kills =
> me to say that, it's true. It's sort of like they're both in emotional =
> limbo and they have no idea how to get out of it. How sad was it when =

I don't think they're in limbo yet, although Liz has fears.  They're still a
couple under siege.  This will probably get twisted up, because gods know
there's not enough teenage romantic angst on TV.

> as if they have this primordial connection. I don't feel as if they =
> belong together. This is really making that storyline ring very hollow =

Why?  Are you trusting the story?  Silly: secondguess everything.  Just
because Tess babbles about destiny doesn't mean you have to believe her.
What's important is if you can believe her character, not her and Max: can you
believe she's been fixated on Max since they were six (or since she remembered
what happened), that she's locked onto him because he's her kind and good
looking and possibly has a racial purity thing either her own or from Nacedo?

> that she was scared of Tess. I loved the way Max said, "So am I" when =
> Liz disgustedly said, "She's[Tess]an alien, Max" . Max looked so wounded =

This I didn't like.  I thought Liz was more open.

> 7) This mysterious "pregnancy": This to me was the most difficult leap =
> in logic. It's bizarre to me that based on one dream, Isabel would think =
> that she was pregnant with Michael's child. My first instinct would have =
> been that the dream was premonitory. I really don't know what to think =

Same here, premonitory.  They _should_ be together, they _should_ have little
alien kids to spread and take over the world.  According to the dream-sender.

> aliens, I didn't really feel anything even close to remorse. Again, this =
> could be because I don't feel as if Tess has ingratiated herself to the =
> group in any real emotional way. Not sure about this.

Well, she hasn't.  But by one line of thinking, she shouldn't have to: they're
all aliens!  Their kind should stick together!  But the three have their own
group, and have made connections to humans, and she's warping all of that.

> B) Trust Valenti Dammit!!! He's more than proven to me that he's a =
> worthy ally. It's about time they start trusting someone because the =
> aliens need help.

I'm still open to Valenti having been replaced between his returning the Orb
and his taking pictures last week.  Although I'm less sure after he showed off
the camera.

> C)Is anyone catching the lesbian undertones that permeate the Isabel and =
> Tess scenes? What's up with that?

The kitchen scene, yeah.  *shrug*   Not worth worrying about.  Random
cheesecake, or they were directing for some other effect and we have dirty
minds.

> D) Where are the parents? What's going on here?=20

What parents?  We saw Ma Evans, the Parkers and De Luca are presumably busy
and haven't had anything to worry about.  The kids staying with Max is
believable; old friends, tolerant parents.

- -xx- Damien X-)

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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 00:04:30 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square"

I wrote:

> But, hey.  If Tess was left behind, she was probably captured by the troops
> we see in the Orb's memory.  Well, guess she wasn't dissected.  But it makes

But hey, that was a really dumb idea, because the Orb's troops were in 1947,
and the pods hatched in 1989.  So there's no reason to assume what happened to
Tess, at least not from the pod scene.

- -xx- Damien X-)

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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 03:07:52 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square"

In a message dated 04/25/2000 12:05:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< But hey, that was a really dumb idea, >>

Lets try to keep it a little more civil, please.

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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 09:09:42 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square"

[e-mail] wrote:
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> << But hey, that was a really dumb idea, >>
> Lets try to keep it a little more civil, please.

I hope I'm allowed to mock my own posts, as I was doing, having had second
thoughts.

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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 09:55:06 -0700
From: "scadian13" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [roswell] thoughts and more thoughts....

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okay...some random thoughts....


it would seem as if max has always been "controlling" in a sense.  i =
mean, i love max & liz together, but let's look at things from a Tess =
perspective for just a minute.  she had the same "flash" as Max when =
they were out in the desert, right?  well, you know, for someone who was =
basicaly left behind, she really ISN'T being that bad.  i mean, she =
could really see it as if they - and MAX especially- deserted her.  =
Michael didn't want to leave, he was torn (question here - would that =
then make them - Michael & Tess- brother and sister too?.  but max all =
decides it is time to go, so they just leave tess behind. so, okay, =
again, from her perspective, she has finally found them again.  by all =
rights she could be really resentful, and instead she is just like, =
"yay, i found you!  i have been w/o ANYONE like me my whole life. and =
now we are all togther, like it "should be", like our "parents" had =
wanted."  and the rest of the aliens are like "we don't trust you, we =
don't like you, etc."  talk about resentment. =20


>They _should_ be together, they _should_ have little
>alien kids to spread and take over the world.

why take over??  why does it need to be a negative agenda?  why not just =
to continue their kind? =20

so is nasedo going to be tess' dad, then?  i don't think it is tess, not =
after tonite. =20

gotta go, my mind is still spinning....
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>it would seem as if max has always been =

"controlling" in a sense.  i mean, i love max & liz together, =
but let's=20
look at things from a Tess perspective for just a minute.  she had =
the same=20
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know,=20
for someone who was basicaly left behind, she really ISN'T being that =
bad. =20
i mean, she could really see it as if they - and MAX especially- =
deserted=20
her.  Michael didn't want to leave, he was torn (question here - =
would that=20
then make them - Michael & Tess- brother and sister too?.  but =
max all=20
decides it is time to go, so they just leave tess behind. so, okay, =
again, from=20
her perspective, she has finally found them again.  by all rights =
she could=20
be really resentful, and instead she is just like, "yay, i found =
you!  i=20
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like it=20
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the=20
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about=20
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>They _should_ be together, they =
_should_ have=20
little<BR>>alien kids to spread and take over the world.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>why take over??  why does it need =
to be a=20
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their kind?  </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>so is nasedo going to be tess' dad, =
then?  i=20
don't think it is tess, not after tonite.  </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>gotta go, my mind is still=20
spinning....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--laura</FONT></DIV>
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