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Subject: port-charles-digest V1 #36
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port-charles-digest Monday, April 13 1998 Volume 01 : Number 036
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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 13:46:01 -0500
From: Cagey <cagey@geocities.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Carly & Jason (was Brenda & Jax)
Gina wrote:
>but I lost alot of respect when Jason agreed to lie
>about being Michael's father. He is just helping Carly to make
>everyone else miserable.
Is everybody else miserable? A.J. has pretty much admitted that 1) he
would have taken Michael away from Carly but 2) after going through the
whole kidnapping thing, he realizes that's not necessarily the best
scenario. He's moved forward in his relationship with Keesha, who can't
stand Carly, and would probably be pretty darned unhappy to know that there
is a lingering, and growing <g>, tie between A.J. and Carly.
Edward would undoubtedly be happier if the baby was A.J.'s, so I suppose he
might be "miserable."
If Alan weren't drugged out, I'd say that thinking Michael is Jason's son
makes him happy. Alan's relationship with Jason was a strong one; it's
possible that he hasn't given up on the notion that fatherhood might mellow
Jason's resentment towards the Q's.
Monica would probably be happier, but her problem is with Jason, not with
Carly (on the whole).
Emily would be happy either way, but I have a sneaking suspicion that she
likes being Michael's godmother, because it gives her another tie to Jason.
As for the Spencers.... I don't think it would matter to Bobbie. I
suspect Luke, in the long run, would vastly prefer any relative of his to
be Jason's and not A.J.'s <g>.
>I would like to see
>more interaction between Carly and the Spencers than Carly and
>Jason!!
I do miss Carly and Luke. But Carly really doesn't have any place in
Luke's current storyline.
In a private note to me, which she's given permission for me to respond to
here, Jill wrote:
>I'd like them as a couple IF Carly were going about it in
>an honest way (yeah, like that'll happen). She knows perfectly
>well he's in love with Robin-- he's told her this. Now, IMO her
>strategy should be to continue insinuating herself into his life
>-- but being very up-front about it, rather than sneaky. She's
>also getting off on his power, and that's dangerous, since I don't
>think even Jason gets off on his own power. I think Jason does
>what he does because of Sonny, really, and I don't know how he'll
>feel if he realizes that Carly thinks it's "cool" that he's a mobster.
I think that both Jason and Carly are fooling themselves about Carly's
character, and the situation as a whole. Carly has shown time and again
that she'll use any means necessary to get what she wants, and it's foolish
of both of them not to realize that Jason's power gives Carly a dangerous
opportunity. It was nice to see Jason come down on her so hard in the
limo, if only for that reason. But the situation itself should be
clarified between them. Yes, Jason has told Carly that he loves Robin.
But the situation has moved beyond that black & white statement. Did he
ever tell Carly that there couldn't be a relationship between them? And if
he did, has he said it lately? What he *really* should start doing is
setting her up on dates with other guys <g>.
Jill again:
>I'm just waiting for the day that Carly starts using Michael as
>a threat to Jason-- i.e. "dump me and you lose Michael." Once
>she does that-- and we all know she WILL-- she'd better watch out.
Oh my word. Another reason why I don't want to watch this situation play
out. I really like Jason with Michael! ;)
- --kg
- -
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 14:53:12 -0700
From: Taiyin <sigmund@taiyin.net>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH--huh???
At 11:46 AM 4/8/98 PDT, Julie Saker wrote:
>
>although, it DID have the funniest thing i've seen on gh in a while...
>those nametags! "hi, i'm mac," and "hi, i'm NOT mac"!!! that was
>hilarious! :)
That's cuz V rocks. She cracked me up during that whole thing. She was so
off-handed about the entire, BIZARRE situation that it was hard not to
giggle the whole time.
Taiyin
"How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated
'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never
had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy
- -
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 14:59:51 -0700
From: Taiyin <sigmund@taiyin.net>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Carly & Jason (was Brenda & Jax)
At 01:46 PM 4/8/98 -0500, Cagey wrote:
>
>Is everybody else miserable? A.J. has pretty much admitted that 1) he
>would have taken Michael away from Carly but 2) after going through the
>whole kidnapping thing, he realizes that's not necessarily the best
>scenario.
He's also admitted that he didn't really WANT to be the father. He wanted
something in his life, and when the possibility of the kid being his came
up he latched onto it blindly.
>Edward would undoubtedly be happier if the baby was A.J.'s, so I suppose he
>might be "miserable."
Bah. He doesn't count. If he had his way that kid would be in boarding
school before he was old enough to tell time. HIs vote doesn't count.
>As for the Spencers.... I don't think it would matter to Bobbie. I
>suspect Luke, in the long run, would vastly prefer any relative of his to
>be Jason's and not A.J.'s <g>.
<snicker> Hard to blame him there.
>I do miss Carly and Luke.
Immeasurabley.
>But the situation has moved beyond that black & white statement. Did he
>ever tell Carly that there couldn't be a relationship between them? And if
>he did, has he said it lately? What he *really* should start doing is
>setting her up on dates with other guys <g>.
Except the way that they've developed Jason, I don't think those are the
kind of subtleties that he notices or realizes the importance of. It was
like on Friday when Carly was getting ready. She was ACHING to get a real
compliment out of him, and he just kept saying, "You look fine."
Taiyin
"How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated
'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never
had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy
- -
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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 15:15:38 -0700
From: Taiyin <sigmund@taiyin.net>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: RE: Brenda & Jax
At 12:13 PM 4/8/98 EST5EDT, Gina Clayton wrote:
>ITA!! I think that Robin and Jason need to work alot of issues out,
>but in the end they deserve to be together.
I used to. And now, as much as it pains me to agree with Brenda's POV at
all, I think that Robin going back to him would be too much like Brenda and
Sonny -- minus the chemistry. I think Jason and Robin do have great
chemistry (at least they used to -- I don't think it's as strong as it used
to be, but I think that's because of the way Robin has been written the
past few months), but not the kind of all-consuming, intensity that Sonny
and brenda had.
>I used to like Jason and
>Carly as friends, but I lost alot of respect when Jason agreed to lie
>about being Michael's father. He is just helping Carly to make
>everyone else miserable. I enjoy Sarah Brown's acting ability, but I
>want Carly to get what is coming to her...living in a penthouse and
>receiving diamonds is NOT what I had in mind.:)
Well, we already know that you and I disagree there <g>, and I do think
that the stunt she pulled on AJ while she was pregnant was enough to have
her tarred and feathered for, but as for everything else... <shrug> I
think that it'd be a lot easier for me to work up some righteous
indignation on AJ's behalf if he hadn't returned to being such a
Quartermaine Toady.
Her dealing him such a serious blow while he was working so hard at being
his own person was dispicable, but that was largely because the character
was finally working on finding his own voice and his own respecitiblity and
he was transcending what is so infuriating about the general Quartermaines
(superiority complex -- which all of them but Lila and Emily display to one
extend or another). For me that was TOTALLY shot the SECOND he went back
to the house and ELQ. So my days of sympathizing with AJ are history. If
he wants to be one of Edwards lackies, then he'll get as much sympathy from
me as Ned does.
I always hated the way Ned treated AJ, but now that AJ is doing it back to
Ned it's only worse. When AJ used to stand there and stare at Ned while he
was going off on him and know himself well enough to where he could just
disgard Ned's diatribes as "garbage in, garbage out," I loved AJ. Now that
he feels the need to stoop to Ned's level all the time annoys me to no end.
>BTW...what did ya'll think about the confortation between Robin and
>Carly yesterday? It wasn't what I expected.
It was the first time since Guza has started writing for Robin that I
haven't wanted to smack her.
It breaks my heart that a character I have loved for so long tends to
irritate the daylights out of me as much as she has lately, but she has.
And her finally acknowledging that she DOES try to control Jason made me
finally feel like there is a little bit of hope for her.
>I loved Jason's wink and Garcia's LOD when he told Taggert that he
>thought that Jason couldn't smile!(I don't remember exactly what he
>said) I don't know who I am pulling for now....Justus or Taggert
>with Dara!
Dara who? All I can think of is Taggart in that undershirt doing pushups
on the floor of the cell.
Rrrrooowww!
Taiyin
"How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated
'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never
had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy
- -
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:09:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geri Fosseen <living-with-lyme@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH--huh???
- ---Julie Saker <jesaker@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> ok, i'm getting kind of confused by gh these days. yesterday's
episode,
> with jax's "plan" to get back at the assassins without involving the
> law...does that make sense to ANYONE? and especially, does it make
> sense that v, ms. by-the-book, would go along with it? i've read a
lot
> of speculations (do they require space? well...just in case...)
>
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>
> that jax may ultimately be behind the assassination attempt
(intending
> for it to fail, obviously), which at first confused me mightily. i
> mean, why go through all the trouble, and risk your precious brender
> getting a life-threatening injury (LOL!), but others have pointed out
> that he could have done it in order to cause trouble for jason,
which i
> suppose is a possibility. but i STILL didnt' believe it...until
> yesterday. yesterday was just too odd for me. anyone else?
>
Ok....here's my theory, which seems to be suported by stuff I've read
and heard....spoiler space coming....
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It's Jax's brother Jerry who's behind the whole thing. They've cast
him and he's coming in the next week or so and they're bringing back
his folks. Sooooo...if Jax suspects Jerry, maybe he doesn't want him
arrested, he wants to deal with him his own way??? That's my theory...
==
Take Care...Geri
~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
%~}"I believe I am growing skeptical of cynicism."{~%
--Chuck Lorre
%~}"Do not think you are on the right path just because
it is well-beaten."{~% --Unknown
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:27:07 -0400
From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: GH Lucky & Liz
I can't believe how much I'm lovin' Lucky & Liz together. Even the
little scenes that they share, you can just imagine how great their
story is going to be. I loved the scene when Lucky was leaving thru
Liz's bedroom window. It was almost as if he was going to kiss her. I
know, I know, that's rushing the plot a bit, but as I've said
before...I'm a dreamer. And also, I must take my hat off to Stuart
Damon, for the 1st time in this whole drug-addicted story I was
impressed. Didn't he really seem to be outta it when he kept
saying...we're under siege, this is what siege is! He was great. Also,
was anyone thinking Kat was in BIG trouble w/Stephan when she told him
about telling Luke that he was once in love w/Laura? I think I said, uh,
oh out loud! And what's the deal w/Nikolas these days? Does anyone
actually like the thought of Robin & Nik together? Yuck! It irks the
hell outta me that they keep trying to make Tyler look 17! Someone
please give that boy a comb!!!
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 09:19:58 -0500
From: Cagey <cagey@geocities.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Carly & Jason (was Brenda & Jax)
Taiyin wrote:
>Except the way that they've developed Jason, I don't think those are the
>kind of subtleties that he notices or realizes the importance of.
Good point. I've become so tired of the "Jason has no emotions" lines from
everybody except Robin and Carly, that I tend to forget that even though he
does have feelings, Jason doesn't have the mastery of relationships that he
ought to.
Jason's been lucky, in a lot of ways. Sonny, Mike, Robin and Emily are all
remarkably straight forward with him; he expects the Qs and cops and rival
mobsters to be his enemies, and they act like it. Carly resides in a
nebulous middle ground: she is his friend, needs his help, but is
certainly not the straight forward "friend" he's used to dealing with.
And he doesn't understand the importance of compliments <g>.
- --kg
- -
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:34:06 -0700
From: Jill <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH Lucky & Liz
On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Danielle Graham wrote:
> Also,
> was anyone thinking Kat was in BIG trouble w/Stephan when she told him
> about telling Luke that he was once in love w/Laura?
I believe my comment was something unprintable on a family list. :) How
INCREDIBLY STUPID of her! If she'd just gone to see Luke to try and
mediate the problems, that's one thing; Stefan might even have appreciated
it because it demonstrated her concern for Nik.
But going to tell LUKE that Stefan LOVED HIS WIFE AT ONE TIME is like
handing Luke a big ticking bomb and giving him permission to pick the
place and time where it goes off. DUMB! DUMB! DUMB!!
I did love when Stefan went down to slice up the portrait of Laura,
though, and couldn't make himself do it. The only time I find him even
marginally interesting any more is when he's obsessing over Laura. I
don't want L&L to break up, but I even remember enjoying the chemistry
between Laura and Stefan. And Lord knows I don't enjoy the chemistry
between Stefan and Katharine-- ew.
Jill
- -
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:34:29 -0700
From: Jill <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Carly & Jason (was Brenda & Jax)
> Carly resides in a
> nebulous middle ground: she is his friend, needs his help, but is
> certainly not the straight forward "friend" he's used to dealing with.
I'm probably not going to say this right... IMO, once Carly realized
that she wanted Jason on more than a
help-me-out-and-pretend-to-be-Michael's-father basis, she ceased being his
friend (and I'm not sure if she even consciously realizes this, though she
obviously does later this week based on spoilage) and started being
someone that will use Jason just as much as anyone else tries to.
Slightly shifting topic: there are two scenes that I KNOW we're
eventually going to get, and that will be horribly, viciously entertaining
to watch:
1) When Carly first threatens Jason, using the loss of Michael. I.e. "if
you don't do such-and-so, I'll take Michael away from you."
2) When Carly tells Robin that she (Carly) can give Jason what Robin can't
(babies, sex, you name it). And if Carly ever says that to Robin, I want
Jason to overhear it-- because I can't think of anything Carly would do
(except taking Michael away) that would make him so angry, or so
dangerous.
> And he doesn't
understand the importance of compliments <g>. >
Does any man, really? If they truly understood how very far a quick "You
look gorgeous" would get them, they'd be complimenting everyone, all the
time, all day... ;)
Jill
- -
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:44:50 -0400
From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Stephan
The only time I find him even
marginally interesting any more is when he's obsessing over Laura. I
don't want L&L to break up, but I even remember enjoying the chemistry
between Laura and Stefan.
Like I said before, I'm a DAYS fan. But secondly, I just love Stephen
Nichols. He's fab! Needless to say, he just gives a story to Kat.
- -
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:50:17 -0400
From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Jason/Carly
I just have to comment on Jill's essay on Jason & Robin/Carly! Jill, you
were right on the money....I can just see Carly throwing Michael in
Jason's face! All I have to say is, what is w/the slicking back of
Jason's hair....Hello, SONNY! Is that annoying anyone else or what?
- -
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:13:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geri Fosseen <living-with-lyme@rocketmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Ponderings...
Hi all...
For some reason yesterday's PC & GH had me shaking my head a lot, so
now I'm going to try to remember which things bugged me and see if
anyone else was bothered! :)
One of the things that was bothering me I actually had explained to me
last night...I thought Lark was in that same part of the hospital she
was in before and that all of a sudden there was a room full of wigs
in the Psych ward! But, apparently I missed a sign on the wall that
said they were in the chemotherapy wing, thus making this oddity much
more sensible! However, if they were in the chemo wing, why? Why
were Scott & Eve in the chemo wing at all?? That's not where Frank
is, it's not where the lab is, in fact with the interns on pediatric
rotation and having no cancer patients, why would they even have this
set right now??? Odd, no?? :) (I'm easily bothered...LOL!!)
Let's see...on GH, if you had just been grazed by a bullet, doncha
think you'd need more than a little itty-bitty bandaid?? Much less a
Hot Pink bandaid??? What is she, 8 years old and needs a pretty
boo-boo strip??? Yuck!
Next...when Jason & Carly first walked into her mom's house, did
anyone else notice someone had left a box on the couch??? I think
this was a blooper! Jason immediately picked it up and started
walking around with it and I really don't think it was supposed to be
there. :) After all, if you had just left on a trip to go see your
friend, would you KNOW you were going to have a stroke and die and
that someone would need a box later to pack up your house???
Puh-leeze!! :)
Ashley...can you say anorexic??? Yikes, I've eaten chickens with more
meat on their bones!! LOL!! Why is that supposed to be attractive?
If I want to see someone's bones, I'll go take a biology class!!!
How cute is Jax when he's being sarcastic -- that smirk comes over his
face...argh! He's not all that spectacular sometimes, but when he
thinks he's pulling one over on Brenda, he's just adorable!! LOL!
One last one...How did Alan, Mr. Big Bucks, know exactly where to find
the cheesiest hotel around?? I would imagine it's in a part of Port
Chuckles that he's never even been in before, and yet they had him go
straight from one door to the other -- is this a kickback to when he
used to cheat on Monica?? Was this odd, or was it just me?? LOL!!
So, as you can see, it's the little things in life that keep me
interested...hope I've at least amused someone out there... :)
==
Take Care...Geri
~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
%~}"I believe I am growing skeptical of cynicism."{~%
--Chuck Lorre
%~}"Do not think you are on the right path just because
it is well-beaten."{~% --Unknown
~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
_________________________________________________________
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------------------------------
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:29:41 -0400
From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Ponderings
Geri wrote:
One last one...How did Alan, Mr. Big Bucks, know exactly where to find
the cheesiest hotel around?? I would imagine it's in a part of Port
Chuckles that he's never even been in before, and yet they had him go
straight from one door to the other -- is this a kickback to when he
used to cheat on Monica??
I was wonderin' the same thing! I guess he thought he had to get as far
away from the Q's as possible. And how scary was that hallucination
w/him & Emily both taking drugs. That was evil!!!!
hope I've at least amused someone out there... :)
Yep, you did, Geri! Strange that we all notice those strange lil' things
happenin'!
- -
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:52:40 -0700
From: Taiyin <sigmund@taiyin.net>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Stephan
Jill wrote:
>The only time I find him even
>marginally interesting any more is when he's obsessing over Laura. I
>don't want L&L to break up, but I even remember enjoying the chemistry
>between Laura and Stefan.
I don't. But, then again, by the time I started watching GH against after
a one year absense, he was already consumed with Kat. Yick.
So I haven't seen much with them in a year, because I have to fast-forward
through them 99% of the time for the sake of my own sanity.
It might not be so bad if I didn't find Katherine to be an annoyingly
insipid character all on her own. They need to make her a villian again.
I haven't been able to stomach her since she abandoned Damian for "the good
side of the force." ;-)
She may have been a total bitch when she was blackmailing Ned into
marriage, but at least she was interesting.
Taiyin
"You know, I really wish you wouldn't use the term "loonies"
- -- at least as long as we're in a *mental hosptial.*" -- Kevin to Scott
- -
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:59:57 -0700
From: Rebecca <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Carly & Jason (was Brenda & Jax)
Cagey wrote:
> It was nice to see Jason come down on her so hard in the
> limo, if only for that reason.
It may be very catty of me, but this was my favorite scene in weeks!
> But the situation itself should be
> clarified between them.
I don't kow about anyone else, but any man who runs out and gets me
diamonds like other men get candy...I would be clarifying myself right
under his skin for life! I loved that Jason did that, not for Carly's
sake, but just his generousity and kindness. But what won't Carly think
she can get next time? Also, that scene where Jason went to the
hospital to see how Robin was, but TOLD Carly he would not see her for
fear of letting someone see how important he was to her and use it
against him. Doesn't Carly see that logically, the fact that he spends
a lot of time with her, in public, means that he doesn't care too much
what happens to her? It's possible he scared Merino as much as he could
about Carly because she is the mother of Michael, but that antithesis
should worry her.
> What he *really* should start doing is
> setting her up on dates with other guys <g>.
>
How about Carly and Taggart?? I think they would make a perfect
couple-- kind of like Gina and Keith on SB many years ago-- I loved
them! Smarmy as they were.
> I really like Jason with Michael! ;)
>
> --kg
>
I really really really really really like Jason with Michael. *sigh*
Rebecca
>
- -
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:00:10 -0700
From: Rebecca <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Stefan and Laura
Jill wrote:
>
> I did love when Stefan went down to slice up the portrait of Laura,
> though, and couldn't make himself do it.
It reminded me of that book "Picture of Dorian Gray" by Oscar Wilde-
where he keeps his portrait of his young self in the attic, which takes
all of his sin, deceit, aging etc. while he persists in his youth. When
he finally destroys the portrait, he himself is also destroyed.
Hmm...any correlation? Perhaps that is why Stefan could not destroy the
portrait-- he would destroy himself by destroying Laura, onto whom he
has projected his passion, obsession, if we want to call it that. (I am
going off of what I have heard, since I missed part of this story.)
Nice intertexuality though-- I WARNED you about this noticing of
things! "<G>.
Rebecca
- -
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:16:57 EST5EDT
From: "Gina Clayton" <GCLAYTON@LES.LES.SC.EDU>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Carly & Jason
> How about Carly and Taggart??
I like Taggert with Dara at the moment. How about Carly and Garcia??
I think that could prove to be interesting:):)
- -
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:19:55 EST5EDT
From: "Gina Clayton" <GCLAYTON@LES.LES.SC.EDU>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Carly & Jason (was Brenda & Jax)
> 2) When Carly tells Robin that she (Carly) can give Jason what Robin can't
> (babies, sex, you name it). I want Jason to overhear it-- because I can't think of anything Carly would do
> (except taking Michael away) that would make him so angry, or so dangerous.
ITA!! I also want Robin to lash back at Carly if this ever happens!!
That would be crossing the line as far as "turning the other cheek"
goes....even for Robin!!
- -
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:33:40 -0700
From: Taiyin <sigmund@taiyin.net>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Carly & Jason
At 12:16 PM 4/10/98 EST5EDT, Gina Clayton wrote:
>
>I like Taggert with Dara at the moment. How about Carly and Garcia??
> I think that could prove to be interesting:):)
<snort> Can't you just see that?
She wouldn't get many diamond necklaces on a cop's salary, though. ;-)
OTOH, now that he's cut his hair, he is rather yummy again...
Taiyin
"How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated
'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never
had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy
- -
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:12:14 -0700
From: Jill <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Stephan
On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Taiyin wrote:
> So I haven't seen much with them in a year, because I have to fast-forward
> through them 99% of the time for the sake of my own sanity.
Kat and Stefan are better than ipecac-- barf, hurl, barf.
> It might not be so bad if I didn't find Katherine to be an annoyingly
> insipid character all on her own. They need to make her a villian again.
> I haven't been able to stomach her since she abandoned Damian for "the good
> side of the force." ;-)
IMO, they've always had trouble making Kat an integrated, interesting
character. Her relationship to Dominique got her in, but Dom wasn't from
one of the major GH families, so then they tried to ally her with the Qs,
and that was fun while it lasted... there hasn't been a storyline that
has really meshed her <well> with anyone. The closest I come to liking
her is when she's with Robin-- I like that they're friends, even though
Mac and Kat are over.
:::shrug::: She was far better as Kayla. But Kayla was a far better
character.
Jill
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:12:39 -0700
From: Jill <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Carly & Jason (was Brenda & Jax)
Rebecca wrote:
> Also, that scene where Jason went to the
> hospital to see how Robin was, but TOLD Carly he would not see her for
> fear of letting someone see how important he was to her and use it
> against him. Doesn't Carly see that logically, the fact that he spends
> a lot of time with her, in public, means that he doesn't care too much
> what happens to her? It's possible he scared Merino as much as he could
> about Carly because she is the mother of Michael, but that antithesis
> should worry her.
This is a <really> good point-- you've articulated what has kinda been in
the back of my mind for a while. I think Jason's kept Michael because he
loves him so much he doesn't see any choice in the matter. And the
likelihood that Marino is going to hurt a BABY is probably pretty
minimal...
But Carly is fair game. And Jason doesn't feel about Carly how he feels
about Robin. And that hasn't hit Carly-- though I don't know if she'd
even care; Carly still thinks what she needs is "stuff" and "status," and
hasn't realized (this is all IMO) that what she's really looking for is
love.
Jill
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:20:09 -0400
From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Stephan (Katherine)
> It might not be so bad if I didn't find Katherine to be an annoyingly
> insipid character all on her own.
Ditto! I also agree that she is really good w/Robin, but she's
even better w/Nikolas.
She was far better as Kayla. But Kayla was a far better
character.
Like I said before, ITA, I'm a big Days fan & Patch & Kayla were
perfect together.
Danielle
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:24:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Cagey <cagey@geocities.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Carly & Jason (was Brenda & Jax)
Rebecca wrote (providing the word for the day, "smarmy"):
>How about Carly and Taggart?? I think they would make a
perfect
>couple-- kind of like Gina and Keith on SB many years
ago-- I loved
>them! Smarmy as they were.
Ah, now *there* was a good couple. Hmmmm.... I can't think
of a single scenario that could put Carly and Taggart in a
relationship. Obviously I haven't had enough to drink <g>.
Carly and Mac? ;)
Carly and Mr. Smarmy Jerry Jax? (who is that actor? how
can he manage to portray quite so much smarminess in one
shot?)
Nope, I've got it. Carly and Reginald!
On a completely unrelated note, but I certainly felt it
deserved comment... Alan's hallucination was beautiful <g>.
And Damon Stuart is doing such a nice job with the whole
thing. I'm glad they've finally moved forward with this
story.
- --kg
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:30:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Cagey <cagey@geocities.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Carly & Jason
Jill wrote:
>And that hasn't hit Carly-- though I don't know if she'd
>even care; Carly still thinks what she needs is "stuff"
and "status," and
>hasn't realized (this is all IMO) that what she's really
looking for is
>love.
Two points...first, I think I agree with you--I'm not sure
if she would care. Robin realized that her being in danger
hurt Jason; I don't know, even if Jason really cared for
Carly, that Carly would see it from that point of view.
Second, I agree with you on the status part, but I'm not
sure she really needs that much stuff. Tony wasn't
dripping with money, but she really did love him (I think).
But she certainly did want to be a doctor's wife as well.
But I do think that Carly recognizes, at least minimally,
that she's continually looking for love. She admitted as
much in Florida this week, when she acknowledged that
Virginia loved her as much as her fantasy mother ever could
have. Of course, she also claimed that she'd stop looking
for the fantasy. We know better. ;)
On another totally unrelated note, when's Nancy Lee Grahn
coming back? Wah!
- --kg
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--Alexis to Ned, GH
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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 10:10:15 -0700
From: Taiyin <sigmund@taiyin.net>
Subject: GH/PC: ADMIN: List Rule Refresher
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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 08:15:43 -0400
From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Lucky & Liz
Ok, now this isn't a spoiler, only my opinion, does anyone else think
that the teacher, can't remember his name, is the rapist? Wasn't it just
too convenient that he was in the park when Lucky & Liz was there? And
then him saying he only lives a few minutes away & he sometimes cuts
thru the park on his way home. He looked a bit startled as well. Like I
said...My opinion only!!!
Danielle
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