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port-charles-digest      Sunday, January 18 1998      Volume 01 : Number 016




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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:42:01 -0800
From: Taiyin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Re: Logan's Last Chat

At 12:34 PM 1/15/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
>
>well yes...logan DOES love a good scandal!  especially one where riche's
>involved--who, i often gather, isn't one of his favorite people!  :)

So I've noticed. ;-)

>i agree.  and his measly little weekly tv guide column is just so SMALL,
>and he has so many soaps to cover, that we rarely EVER get a mention of
>anything gh or pc-related!  the chats and ask logan, however, were
>always FLOODED with gh stuff.  (he always said we were among the most
>prolific letter-writers of all soap fans he'd ever encountered!  :)

Yeah, but even more than just my own personal preferences (after all, it's
not as though he ever touts the many fabulous virtues of Kevin & Lucy --
humbug!), I just like the fact that, while he loves soaps, he doesn't just
take whatever TPTB hand us with a smile.  If it's crap, he says it's crap
and he is lucky enough to be in a position to be heard, by not only fans,
but by TPTB, too.

(Unlike us.  We can scream and yell that something is dreadful and we, by
and large, get ignored by TPTB.)

>by my successors, who announced it themselves. (But hey, I'm just
>getting a teensy bit of my own medicine -- now I know how La Tylo must
>have felt when I announced La Pregnancy.) Anyway, whoever put the info

That's the other thing I like about Logan, he knows when he's full of it
and readily admits it. ;-)

>from TV Guide and look forward to continuing that column. Actually, I'm
>not even leaving the Web: I've been invited to do some critic stuff on
>Sony's Soap City site, which sounds like fun; I'll be doing a fan Q&A
>later this month on the GH Mining Company site;  <etc., snip>

That actually makes me feel much better.  At least he'll be around a bit --
even if it isn't consistantly in the same place and time.

>ok, now that's REALLY gonna bug me, 'cause i KNOW i read who his
>replacements were SOMEWHERE.  i'll look around and post them separately
>if i find them.

<snicker>  Well, let us know when you figure it out.

Taiyin
"Sacrifice yourself, my love slave."
- --"Oh, do with me what you will."
        -- Lucy & Kevin, GH

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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:46:35 -0800
From: Taiyin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Logan's replacements

Julie wrote:

>i must have read another announcement SOMEWHERE, because i SWEAR i
>remember reading a comment that said the new chat guy has kind of a
>similar no-holds-barred-tell-it-like-it-is style like logan does... but
>i can't seem to find that, so maybe i hallucinated it!  :)

Thanks, Julie.  Kinda h*lps explain why Logan was so beat, if it's taking
three people to replace him, eh?  And blunt is good.  I hope the new guy
really is like that.

>guess this is the best i can do for now!  hope that helps....

Indeed, indeed.  Thanks muchly.

Taiyin, off to lunch...
"Sacrifice yourself, my love slave."
- --"Oh, do with me what you will."
        -- Lucy & Kevin, GH

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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:51:04 -0500 (EST)
From: Holly Sisk <[e-mail]>
Subject: GH/PC: logan and the web

i know that most of y'all will just keel over from shock but i have never
located the web page that logan did his chats on.  could someone please
post the address.

thanks

holly

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"It's the start that stops most people."
                              --anonymous

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:11:51 -0800
From: Taiyin <[e-mail]>
Subject: GH/PC: Them Q Men

Well, the Quartermaine males and their capacity for self-deluded blindness
never cease to amze me.  Truly.

Can someone explain to me, please, what (if ANYTHING) Alan, Edward, AJ and
the token non-Q, Tony, are thinking?  They think -- what?  They can just
hold onto the baby and say, "No, Jason.  We aren't going to let you take
him home with you."  And they think Jason will just say, "Oh, ok, if you're
sure.  No problem." and leave?

And did anyone else feel the overwhelming urge to throw something at the
screen when Tony made that analogy to an alcoholic?  All I could think of
was, "Well, it never worked for AJ, did it??"

Putzes.  All of them.  I feel bad for AJ (more than Tony.  I think Carly
screwing Tony over was karmic justice for him leaving his wife and son for
a woman-child half his age and so I have little or no sympathy for him
whatsoever;  AJ, however, was used and abused by that little bovine tramp,
to quote Helena, and it was almost literally in another life), but he needs
to be smacked.  He had a moment where I thought he might not decide to be a
total schmuck and then he blew it, Mr. "I know my brother better than any
of you, but I'm going to play stuid and just decide to delude myself into
thinking this could possibly work" AJ.  Pfft.

And, of course, the women are all used as patsies -- both Emily and Robin.
<grrrr>

However, the OTHER two Quartermaine males were FAR more interesting.  The
little exchange between Justus and Ned at the Grille was fabulous.  I
especially loved the part where Justus pointed out that Ned's biggest
problem is a feeling of insecurity because he fears Justus is real
competition.   Beautiful -- and long-awaited.

And, while the exchange with Keesha was predictable and even though I would
have been saying the exact same things as she did, I'm happy that he's
going to end up discarding her commentary.

<happy dance> Justus is gonna be a mob lawyer...Justus is gonna be a mob
lawyer...Justus is gonna be a mob lawyer...Justus is gonna be a mob
lawyer...Justus is gonna be a mob lawyer...Justus is gonna be a mob
lawyer...Justus is gonna be a mob lawyer...

I love this.  I wish they'd just get on with it already, though.  They've
been dragging this whole thing out and I'm DYING for them to do that.  I
love the dynamic that creates -- it keeps Jason from being the family
renegade and instead gives the Quartermaine's an entire branch that is
nothing but mob (the illegal version, as opposed to Ned and Edward's legal
version which is at LEAST as unethical as Jason's).

And Ned is being such a jerk again.  I keep changing my mind about whether
or not I like him better as a jerk or a sweetie.  I think it depends on who
he's with.  When he's being a jerk though, all I can hope for is that
either AJ or Justus will just deck him.

Taiyin
"What did I do before I had you?"
- --"You were lost and confused."
         -- Lucy and Kevin

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 03:08:00 -0500
From: "Mary Lu" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Re: Tony and AJ

and mary lu responded:
>There is a point to be made, although they are only dancing around >it:
fathers DO have a right to be with their children.

Julie said to that:
i'm completely with taiyin on this one.  i do feel for tony and aj, in a
way--particularly for tony, who went through eight months looking
forward to being a father.  but still, given the situation, their
behavior is INEXCUSABLE.  they think jason is the father, and they think
they have the right to take that baby from him?!?  how does that make
the point about fathers having a right to be with their children? the
point they're trying to make could more accurately be stated, "fathers
have a right to be with their children, unless the father is a mobster,"
or "fathers have a right to be with their children, as long as the
father is me."
in fact, it would seem to me this story is making the exact OPPOSITE
point...because at this point, i'd rather see this baby spend his entire
life with jason than go live with his actual father, aj, who only wants
him out of spite--because he wants to have what jason has. the point I'M
seeing in all this, is that you don't have to be related by blood to be
a parent.

And then I come in with:

Julie, I don't think we are disagreeing all that much.  There is no way that
I agree with the way these four boys are plotting to get Baby Boy Morgan out
of Jason's hands.  Nothing that they are doing is right.  Can't agree with
you more... and I do love Jason's scenes with the baby.  However, I did say
that they were dancing around the argument that a baby should spend some
time with their father (and THEY are TPTB who write this story in the first
place).  What happened to me during these scenes, particularly when Tony was
speaking about the way he had prepared for that baby for eight months and
the rights he would have had as a father.   They all know that he ISN'T the
father.  So do we.  In this day and age, more and more fathers and presumed
fathers (who later found out they weren't) are going to court to fight for
the right to spend more time with their children.  I got to thinking about
THOSE fathers, not Tony as the father of the baby.  Sure, some cases are
brought before the court with horrible intent and some judges rule for them
for bizarre reasons.  One guy won custody because the mother was keeping her
child in daycare while she attended college classes on a scholarship.  She
was trying to make a better life for herself and the child.  The judge blew
the decision, but precious time was lost in the court battle to get the rule
over-turned (and it was).

I really disagree, however, with AJ only wanting that baby for revenge on
Carly.  He was truly disappointed in not being the daddy.  He is really
hurting.  He may want more revenge on Jason, however, than Carly.  He loses
to Jason so much, that it was only way too easy to get him to believe that
once again Jason had edged him out.  I think that he may be afraid to bond
with the baby right now because he had his hopes set up to be the daddy.  I
don't like him wanting to take the baby from Jason for the reasons he has
given, but I would rather see him like this than have the GH writers make
him go on yet another drinking binge.  Besides, Alan is starting to
sympathize with AJ some, but for all the wrong reasons.

Other than I ultimately want everyone who is SOMEONE to that baby to bond
with it, from Carly, on down to Uncle Luke.  In the meantime, I am going to
enjoy the ride of AJ getting a stronger backbone, Jason getting some human
feelings, Tony falling apart at the scenes and conspiring WITH the
Quartermaines, everything with this story.  This baby is changing so many
people's lives.  I don't care about who become couples with this story.  I
just like the fact that there is finally a story to tell and people can get
to act once more.  I have spent way too much time watching Tony being numb
from BJ's death.  That was pretty boring.  All of Tony and Carly was boring
with the exception of seeing how Carly got out of one lie after another for
so long.  Man, she's good!!!

All those scenes we got of Tony throwing Bobbie out of his house, then Carly
(I don't remember how he forced Lucy out of the house).  He keeps throwing
things!  Then, last week he threw the rubber ducky and the baby things out
of the house, using the window this time.  Finally, he did the ultimate--he
threw HIMSELF out of the house and slept in the hall.  It was the first time
I have ever seen anyone literally throw themselves out of their own home!
This guy is really going down, and going down hard.  Because of his attitude
about the baby and Carly, he has turned everyone off and they are tuning him
out very, very fast.  How much more pathetic can he get to have to team up
with the Q's?  I hope a lot more, because I want to see Brad Maule have some
decently written material to work with once more.

Throw Robin in to the picture, and we are seeing someone who realizes that
AJ does deserve time with the baby.  This was after AJ accused her of doing
rotten things and keeping the secret of Jason's.  She was ripped royally by
AJ for this, and she really wasn't guilty of what he accused her of.  She
was a victim of his feelings of inadequacy and she still told Jason that AJ
should know the truth and should have a say in raising the child.

We have seen how despicable Carly can be.  And AJ, too.  No one is denying
in all seriousness that Carly should have nothing to do with the baby, but
no one but us really knows that she isn't out of the picture very long.  The
four boys feel she might never return.  This (rightly or wrongly) is part of
the reason to take Jason out of the picture.  For every reason why Carly
should be a part of that baby's life, there is an equally compelling reason
for AJ to be a part of his life, too.  Jason won't ever really be out of the
baby's life as he is bonding with that baby.  Don't forget that in this
instance, Jason is Uncle Jason to the baby.  He knows he is the uncle, even
though he may not realize the privileges being an uncle is.  Uncle Jason is
most definitely tied to that baby by blood.  I am extremely close to my
nephews and niece.  We live a continent apart.  That is a very strong blood
tie.  Just ask Uncle Luke...........  It's going to hurt like heck to give
the baby up, but we get to enjoy the ride of seeing Jason have emotions
again.  Jason #3 may just be the best Jason yet!  He may turn out to have
the best qualities of both Jason Morgan and Jason Quartermaine by the time
this story gets played out.

The writers are making a case for the father to be involved, not the four
boys.  I hope the writers take their time on this one.  I want to watch a
good story on GH after having it be a soap I could just barely watch for
months.

I've known several custodial fathers.  They were good to their kids.  I want
joint custody here, not sole custody for either Carly OR AJ.  But let it be
a good story in the process!

Agree or disagree...  the fact that comments are being made on this story
line point out that the story is actually being watched with interest.
Better that than nothing at all.



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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 06:22:56 PST
From: "Julie Saker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: GH/PC: Re: logan and the web

holly asked:

>i know that most of y'all will just keel over from shock but i have
>never located the web page that logan did his chats on.  could >someone
please post the address.

sure!  transcripts of past chats can be found at the tv guide online
site, whose main address is www.tvguide.com

from the main page, there's a drop down menu labeled "site index" or
something along those lines.  find "chat", which is listed under
"communities."  when the main chat page loads up, scroll down to the
bottom where it says "transcripts" in the bottom left hand corner of the
screen.  click there and you'll get a page with drop down menus of
various date's chats for their main columnists.  logan's past stuff is
still there, even though he's no longer affiliated with the site, and i
guess they'll leave them there for a while.

also, if you want to read his "ask logan" or "Q&A" columns, they can be
reached under "soaps" from the main site index menu.

>thanks

you're welcome!

julie


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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 06:49:24 PST
From: "Julie Saker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: GH/PC: Re: Them Q Men

taiyin wrote:

>Can someone explain to me, please, what (if ANYTHING) Alan, Edward, >AJ
and the token non-Q, Tony, are thinking?  They think -- what?  >They can
just hold onto the baby and say, "No, Jason.  We aren't >going to let
you take him home with you."  And they think Jason will >just say, "Oh,
ok, if you're sure.  No problem." and leave?

LOL!  i was thinking the exact same thing!  what kind of a plan is
that?!?  it's even more screwed up and ridiculous than alexis's
natasha/kat plan, or stefan and luke's battle to take over the world via
laptop computer.

absolute BEST case scenario i can see resulting from this is, alan or
edward has his hands on the baby, informs jason he can't have him back,
and jason pulls out his gun (every mobster carries one, right?), points
it at one of them, and says "yes i can."  takes baby, leaves, and never
is seen by them again.  that's the CLOSEST thing to a story that could
come from this.  far more likely is jason just taking the baby out of
their arms and leaving.  what's to stop him?  i just don't get it...

>And did anyone else feel the overwhelming urge to throw something at
>the screen when Tony made that analogy to an alcoholic?

yes.  an "intervention"?  by holding their grandson/great-grandson
hostage???  this is just PATHETIC.  have they not been WATCHING the show
in the months since jason had his accident?  sure...they'll be able to
convince him of the evils of his ways, he'll give up the mob (as if that
were even POSSIBLE), and re-enroll for the pre-med program at pcu, move
back into the west wing, with the baby, without carly, and life will be
peachy keen.  uh-huh.  whatever you say, guys...

>He had a moment where I thought he might not decide to be a
>total schmuck and then he blew it, Mr. "I know my brother better than
>any of you, but I'm going to play stuid and just decide to delude
>myself into thinking this could possibly work" AJ.  Pfft.

i know, i was hopeful for a minute there too.  but i suppose it was a
foregone conclusion.  aj is STILL trying SO damn hard to get alan's
approval, that there's no way he wouldn't cave in eventually.

>And, of course, the women are all used as patsies -- both Emily and
>Robin.  <grrrr>

y'know what?  i hope emily and lila are the ones who trash this plan to
pieces by taking that baby themselves and giving him back to jason and
letting him leave.  because they should both be FURIOUS at edward and
alan and aj for using them this way.

>The little exchange between Justus and Ned at the Grille was >fabulous.
I especially loved the part where Justus pointed out that >Ned's biggest
problem is a feeling of insecurity because he fears >Justus is real
competition.   Beautiful -- and long-awaited.

long-awaited indeed!  i've been waiting for somebody to put ned in his
place for EONS!  and i loved justus's statement (to keesha i think?)
that he'd be involved in elq until one of the q's physically forced him
out the door.

><happy dance> Justus is gonna be a mob lawyer...Justus is gonna be a
>mob lawyer...Justus is gonna be a mob lawyer...

>I love this.

really?  i couldn't tell!  :)

>I wish they'd just get on with it already, though.

ditto.  i know, it's nice to build things up, and let justus's morals
weigh on him for a while.  but he knows, and we know, that working for
jason (from a moral standpoint, if not from a legal one) is no worse
than working for elq, so what's the point in beating himself up over it?

>I love the dynamic that creates -- it keeps Jason from being the
>family renegade and instead gives the Quartermaine's an entire branch
>that is nothing but mob (the illegal version, as opposed to Ned and
>Edward's legal version which is at LEAST as unethical as Jason's).

yes!  it definitely sets up a nice little balance-of-power thing between
the two branches too.  they touched on it already, with the whole "we
own the docks...but jason runs them" bit.  but as edward said before the
board meeting, he needs justus's support a lot of the time.  if justus
is now aligned with jason, that support won't necessarily always be so
forthcoming

>When he's being a jerk though, all I can hope for is that
>either AJ or Justus will just deck him.

or both!  i'd love to see the TWO of them gang up on ned.  he's had it
coming for a LOOOOOONG time!

julie







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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 07:37:03 PST
From: "Julie Saker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: GH/PC: Re: Tony and AJ

mary lu wrote:

>However, I did say that they were dancing around the argument that a
>baby should spend some time with their father (and THEY are TPTB who
>write this story in the first place).

ah--i misunderstood who "they" were supposed to be.  that makes a HUGE
difference...you're right about that!

>particularly when Tony was speaking about the way he had prepared for
>that baby for eight months and the rights he would have had as a
>father.

that was definitely an interesting point.  part of me agrees with
taiyin, that tony's getting EXACTLY what he deserves for being such a
jerk to bobbie.  but then...he DID get duped and betrayed by carly.  he
DID spend eight months thinking he was blissfully in love and about to
be a father.  (so he's stupid...we knew that already!)  and, after
losing bj, i HAVE to feel for him at least a LITTLE bit for "losing"
this child too.

>I got to thinking about THOSE fathers, not Tony as the father of the
>baby.

well...if you're going to bring the REAL world into it, that changes
everything!  <g>

>One guy won custody because the mother was keeping her child in
>daycare while she attended college classes on a scholarship.

i remember that one...i couldn't BELIEVE it.

>I really disagree, however, with AJ only wanting that baby for >revenge
on Carly.  He was truly disappointed in not being the daddy.
oh, i don't think he wanted the baby for revenge on carly either.  i
think he wanted the baby for revenge on JASON, completely.  i agree that
he was disappointed in not being the daddy, but i think keesha got it
exactly right when she asked him if he wanted to be the father for the
baby's sake or for his own.  i don't doubt that he had real feelings of
wanting the baby to be his...but i think his motivations, deep down,
were less than pure.  let's face it--he had a drunken one night
stand--it's not like this is a love child or anything.  i really believe
the only reason he wanted the baby to be his is that he would then be
one up on jason.  by providing the "next quartermaine," he would finally
be doing something jason hadn't done, and would get the attention (from
alan and edward) that he's craved for so long.

>I think that he may be afraid to bond with the baby right now because
>he had his hopes set up to be the daddy.  I don't like him wanting to
>take the baby from Jason for the reasons he has given, but I would
>rather see him like this than have the GH writers make him go on yet
>another drinking binge.

oh i agree wholeheartedly there!  at least this is giving aj a
compelling story.

and i think the bonding thing will turn out to be VERY interesting,
especially by the time carly comes back and all the truths come out.
you have jason bonding with the baby, whether he will admit it or not,
and coming to see himself as the father figure.  you have ROBIN even
going along, and the two of them having those little moments where they
seem very much like two kids playing house, which i think will REALLY
hurt robin in a big way one of these days as she is forced to directly
realize this is something she'll never have.  you have bobbie bonding
with her grandson without even knowing it, who will be COMPLETELY torn
apart when she realizes this boy is the son of the daughter who stole
her husband.  you have uncle luke being drawn towards the baby, even
though he knows that when the truth comes out bobbie is going to be WAY
pissed at him. and i think you're exactly right, that aj's afraid to
bond with the baby...which will also be interesting when the truth comes
out.  alan and edward's reactions, too, when they learn the quartermaine
heir isn't the son of the golden boy, but the son of the family
scapegoat.

>I just like the fact that there is finally a story to tell and people
>can get to act once more.

me too!

>The writers are making a case for the father to be involved, not the
>four boys.  I hope the writers take their time on this one.  I want >to
watch a good story on GH after having it be a soap I could just >barely
watch for months.

agreed.  and i would NEVER say fathers shouldn't be involved in their
kids' lives!  that's why i'm so pissed about what the four boys are
doing...because as far as they know, jason's the father, and they think
they have the right to take his baby away just because they don't
approve of his lifestyle.  now that i understand you were talking about
the WRITERS' viewpoint rather than the guys', i agree wholeheartedly.

>Agree or disagree...  the fact that comments are being made on this
>story line point out that the story is actually being watched with
>interest.  Better that than nothing at all.

and THAT is the best point of all!  it had been a while!  :)

julie

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:52:41 PST
From: "Julie Saker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: GH/PC: GH Spoilers

Spoilers below!  i don't know how accurate they are, because i don't
know where they're originally from (they were in a post i read on pc
online).  but some of them are kind of interesting, so i figured i'd
share...bail out now if you want to...

S
P
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P
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H
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ok, good enough.  here goes:

**Emily rejects her family in favor of Jason, and her visit to Nikolas
prompts him to have a breakthrough.

**Alan and Monica are at odds again.

**Jason has a dangerous encounter that causes him to reconsider the
baby's future.

THE FOLLOWING WEEK

Emily asks Ned to be her father.

<WHAT?!?  god i hate ned...i'd rather see her ask aj or jason, if she
can't stand alan anymore.  (and frankly, i can't blame her for that!)>

Nikolas and Emily make a pact.

Near catastrophie pushes Jason to make a major decision.

<spoiler within a spoiler...another spoiler post i read said that jason
gets shot at on the docks, after just sending the baby home.  could this
"major decision" be to come clean with aj?  or perhaps send baby boy
morgan to live with grandma bobbie for a while?  hmmmmmm...>

In the aftermath of the failed capture, the Q's are left in disarray.

<AWWWWWWWWW.  you mean that brilliant plot is going to FAIL?  you're
KIDDING!  does that even COUNT as a spoiler???>

Justus walks out on Edward, Monica won't talk to Alan and Emily runs off
to Jason's penthouse.

Emily is very shaken by the family disturbance and sneaks out her window
to be with Jason on her birthday. During her stay with Jason, Emily pays
a visit to Nikolas. Moved by her need for friendship,
Nikolas speaks for the first time, urging her to go back home.

oh, and i read another spoiler post that said carly returns the week of
jan. 26th.

that's all for now!

yuck.  ned as em's FATHER?  <shudder>

julie


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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:44:49 EST5EDT
From: "Gina Clayton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH Spoilers

> Spoilers below!  i don't know how accurate they are, because i don't
> know where they're originally from (they were in a post i read on pc
> online).  but some of them are kind of interesting, so i figured i'd
> share...bail out now if you want to...
>
> S
> P
> O
> I
> L
> E
> R
> -
> S
> P
> A
> C
> E
> -
> H
> E
> R
> E
>
> ok, good enough.  here goes:
>

> **Alan and Monica are at odds again.
>
wow....shocker.

> **Jason has a dangerous encounter that causes him to reconsider the
> baby's future.
>
> THE FOLLOWING WEEK
>
> Emily asks Ned to be her father.
>
> <WHAT?!?  god i hate ned...i'd rather see her ask aj or jason, if she
> can't stand alan anymore.  (and frankly, i can't blame her for that!)>
I understand this....she and Ned are pretty tight.  He is really good
with Emily....it's just everyone else he has problems with!:)  At
least this might give him a real storyline...I like Ned.  Wally is a
great actor, he just hasn't had anything big since Lois left.
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> Nikolas and Emily make a pact.
I think she helps with his therapy for speaking.  It might be a
secret from everyone else...I think I read that somewhere.
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> Near catastrophie pushes Jason to make a major decision.
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> <spoiler within a spoiler...another spoiler post i read said that jason
> gets shot at on the docks, after just sending the baby home.  could this
> "major decision" be to come clean with aj?  or perhaps send baby boy
> morgan to live with grandma bobbie for a while?  hmmmmmm...>
He asks someone to be the baby's godparents.  I also heard something
about Felicia...huh?  Anyone else heard about this?!
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> Emily is very shaken by the family disturbance and sneaks out her window
> to be with Jason on her birthday. During her stay with Jason, Emily pays
> a visit to Nikolas. Moved by her need for friendship,
> Nikolas speaks for the first time, urging her to go back home.
Isn't that sweet??:):)
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> oh, and i read another spoiler post that said carly returns the week of
> jan. 26th.
She returns for the baby's Baptism.
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:14:45 PST
From: "Julie Saker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: GH/PC: Re: GH Spoilers

Gina wrote:


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>I understand this....she and Ned are pretty tight.  He is really good
>with Emily....it's just everyone else he has problems with!:)  At
>least this might give him a real storyline...I like Ned.  Wally is a
>great actor, he just hasn't had anything big since Lois left.

well, yeah, i know they're tight.  and she's about the only one i can
STAND him with these days (except alexis).  i definitely liked him MUCH
MUCH more when lois was still around...<sigh>

>He asks someone to be the baby's godparents.  I also heard something
>about Felicia...huh?  Anyone else heard about this?!

can he DO that?  and what does felicia have to do with ANY of this?

>She returns for the baby's Baptism.

huh?  now i'm just CONFUSED.  that would imply that somebody made the
decision to HAVE the baby baptized, without her being there.  that just
doesn't seem like the kind of thing jason would come up with!  i mean,
if he hasn't even made a move to NAME the kid, why would he all of a
sudden decide to have a baptism?

oh well, guess we'll find out...

julie



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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:37:18 -0800
From: Taiyin <[e-mail]>
Subject: GH/PC: The Qs

Wow.

Double wow.

Friday was so AWESOME.  ESPECIALLY Edward and Justus.  Oh my, oh my, oh my.

Justus: "YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH, OLD MAN!!!"
Edward:  "Nobody talks to me like that!"
Justus:  "Well, maybe they should.  Every hour on the hour whether you have
it coming or not!  Ward House created families, out of love and hope and
hard work.  What you're doing is tearing one apart, and how DARE you use my
grandmother's good name to bleass it!  And on the anniversary of her death!
 And isn't it convenient for you that she's not here."
Edward:  "That is a contemptable lie!"
Justus:  "It's the TRUTH, Edward.  She was you conscience.  Now that she's
gone you can do anything you want to do EXCEPT when I'm in the room, isn't
that true?  Isn't that why you sent me on a fool's errand to Chicago?
Isn't that why you'll never give me a seat at the table?  Because there is
too much of her in me?"

Woo hoo!  Damn that was good.  And the preview for Monday was even better.
Ned looked so confused -- I wonder how he's going to react.  I assume that
since the Dorks With the Plan deliberately excluded him that they are going
to make him disapporve.

Having Ned sympathize with Jason (after all, his wife took his child away
from him) could prove a fascinating twist.

And I must just be really slow or something, but I fail to see how on EARTH
Idiots #1, #2, #3 and #4 could actually think this plan would WORK.  All
Jason has to do (if he were incapable of getting the child away from them
himself), is call the cops.  The cops may not like him, but the law is on
HIS side.

This whole thing is so stupid.  And I have a problem with it because it
makes all of the guys look monumentally stupid, too.  Especially Tony,
since this was his brain-child.

OTOH, it's been a long time since the Q's have had anything this divisive
to go to war over. <g>

Taiyin
TESS:  "What do you usually
get for your birthday?"
MAC: "Older."


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Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 23:22:37 -0500
From: "Donald K Gooden" <[e-mail]>
Subject: GH/PC: Spoilers GH

Spoilers for general Hospital
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Week of January 19-23, 1998
courtesy of Soap Opera Weekly, Soap Opera Update and other sources!
HAPPY NEW YEAR!               HAPPY NEW YEAR!



1998 Preview Below - by Robert Guza Jr.
Plus article on a shoot-out of Jason on the Docks
  Important Stuff:

Monday: Jason leaves the Q mansion with Carly's son
Wednesday: Nikolas regains his ability to speak
Friday: Mac confronts James, who later tries to propose to Felicia.
Jason is ambushed.






  More Stuff:
Ned presses Alexis for a commitment.
Jax leaves Brenda by herself, again unaware that she still has problems.
Jason goes up against the Quartermaines and takes more than the baby with
him when he leaves.
Robin and Felicia both question Felicia's relationship with "Mac."
Katherine's disclosure to Stefan prompts him to make a confession.
Brenda asks Ned for help and later learns that Lucy has replaced her as a
model.
Alan gives A.J. what he wants.
Emily rejects her family in favor of Jason, and her visit to Nikolas prompts
him to have a breakthrough.
Alan and Monica are at odds again.
Mac continues to give Tess and James false information; he later escapes and
tries to get James to see the light.
Jason has a dangerous encounter that causes him to reconsider the baby's
future.
James asks Felicia a question.






  The FOLLOWING week:
Emily asks Ned to be her father.
Brenda realizes she has feelings for Jax.
Carly returns during her son's baptism.
Nikolas and Emily make a pact.






  Near catastrophie pushes Jason to make a major decision:
Jason's job as mob boss sparked Edward, Alan, A.J. and Tony's attempt to
kidnap the baby, but Jason takes back the boy and leaves the mansion. What
happens is that Jason goes to the house to show the baby to Lila, because
Robin is always telling him to try to do the right thing. When they tell
Jason he's not getting the baby back, he puts his hand on the gun, but they
know basically not to start a whole thing because he probably would hurt
somebody for the kid. In the aftermath of the failed capture, the Q's are
left in disarray. Justus walks out on Edward, Monica won't talk to Alan and
Emily runs off to Jason's penthouse. Edward is left to agonize over not only
the departure of his great grandson but also over the stance taken by his
grandson Justus. Although pained by the reality of the situation, Alan is
supportive of A.J.
    Jason feels more than just obligated to take care of Carly's son. "The
kid is growing on him," Burton says. "He doesn't treat it like a baby. He
talks to it not in a baby voice like everyone else does. He treats him just
like a human." Jason had considered the possibility that he might be putting
the child in danger, "but Jason knows he is safe, pretty much, at the
penthouse, with guards and everything, so he figures the kid's going to be
safe, too.
    Emily is very shaken by the family disturbance and sneaks out her window
to be with Jason on her birthday.     During her stay with Jason, Emily pays
a visit to Nikolas. Moved by her need for friendship, Nikolas speaks for the
first time, urging her to go back home.     Meanwhile, Jason meets with a
near catastrophe on the docks when he's ambushed. Jason knows the kid could
have been in the car during the shoot-out on the docks, if Jason hadn't sent
him home. That's when he realizes he has to be extra careful. If something
happens to Carly and Jason, where is the kid going to go?
    To ensure the child's future, Jason chooses godparents, and decides to
have the baby baptized. "I don't think that Jason is going to realize the
impact of the baby until they take it away from him," Burton says. "Carly
and Jason will never, ever get back together that way, but it's going to
really hurt when they take the kid away."









  Guza's 1998 PREVIEW - a sneak peek at the whole year:
"The shooting at Luke's really percolates into the first part of the year,"
head writer Robert Guza Jr. says. "We start to see what Helena's agenda is,
which very much revolves around Nikolas, the notion being that whomever
controls Nikolas controls the dynasty - and Luke knows it. Helena is going
to use Luke and Laura to try to take apart the Cassadines to try to regain
control of Nikolas. Helena will draw Katherine into it. It will be a very
gradual thing where we deconstruct the love of all time, and will build to a
huge Katherine/Stefan climax. Brenda hits rock bottom and has an emotional
epiphany that involves coming to terms with Sonny and what he did to her.
She really has to start over and reconstruct her life, but it is not going
to be easy. Jason and A.J. will be our Cain and Abel, and we essentially
split the Quartermaines almost on gender lines. Jason realizes that the
lifestyle he has chosen has separated him from the woman he loves and could
also jeopardize the baby. As a result, he sets out to give the child a life.
Alan's drug addiction continues and will directly jeopardize somebody he
cares about deeply. With Carly's return, everybody will find out who she
really is. Tony is going to change 180 degrees as a result of this
horrendous betrayal he has gone through. Six months from the Dec. 8 show
you're not going to recognize Tony, but you will have seen every step along
the way. What Tony does in the wake of the Carly reveal directly affects the
Quartermaines, Jason, Carly, the baby and Bobbie. And it's ultimately going
to tie into the Cassadines. The mistaken-identity thing with Felicia and Mac
will be revealed to actually be much bigger and, in fact, a very sinister
subplot that will fold in several other major players. When we reveal what
Tess' agenda is - why Mac is being set up - this will turn into a thriller
with a ticking clock where Mac and Felicia have to race to thwart the bad
guys before they essentially kill somebody on the canvas. Once Brenda begins
to pull herself together, she's going to have to re-win Jax big time. He
realizes he can't be her safety net, and he will test the waters with other
women, and that is something Brenda will have to deal with. We are committed
to the Jax/Brenda romance. It is one of the grandest romances this canvas
has ever had, and we're going to play it. But it's not going to be easy for
either of them."





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Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 23:36:34 -0500
From: "Donald K Gooden" <[e-mail]>
Subject: GH/PC: Ned

    Please don't shoot me if someone has already brought this up. I have
been out of commission for awhile. I think that Ned should be on Jason's
side. I mean think about it. Lois took Ned's Baby away because she didn't
want her to be raised by the Q's. She thought that Brooke would turn out to
be bloodsucking or whatever because of the environment she would be in. Now,
the Q's are taking away Jason's "baby" because they are afraid of the
environment that the baby is in. It would be hypocritical of Ned if he were
to be on the side of Edward and Tony.
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Alan. The relationship between Ned and Emily has just always seemed more
real to me than the relationship between Emily and Alan.


Jamila
Kevin and Lucy: The Wonder Years
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/1625/JandJ.html





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