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Subject: port-charles-digest V1 #15
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port-charles-digest Thursday, January 15 1998 Volume 01 : Number 015
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:28:53 EST
From: Olio <Olio@aol.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Hello!
Hi Everyone,
My name is Danielle and I just joined the list. I am switching from
another GH list because there was way too many posts every day and it seemed
as if half of them were off topic! Sometimes there were 200 posts a day!!! I
just couldn't keep up, so I am glad to find another smaller list.
Anyhow, I have been watching GH since I was about 12 which is 20 years ago
and never miss a show! (good ole VCR's)
My favorite character and storyline is Carly. I think the actress does a
great job and I can't wait till she gets back next month and Bobbie finds out
FINALLY who she is.
I also like Vanessa Marcil and think she has done a great job these past few
weeks with Brenda having the breakdown. Her expressions are so real!
I don't like the story though. I hated seeing Brenda ruined like that over
a man, even if it is Sonny. I also don't think Brenda would have ever really
believed that Sonny left her that way. I expected her to search for him and
never believe it. But thats done and over with.
As far as Port Charles goes, I like that show alot, but I HATE the Rex
storyline. I can't wait for that to be finished!!! I think it is really a
little overboard but I know it's a soap.
Well, just wanted to introduce myself and add a few opinions on the shows.
Bye, Danielle
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:42:31 PST
From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: SOD Awards
this was posted on pc online.
the daily news isn't exactly the ny times, so who knows...
but i thought you guys might be interested.
julie
- -----------------------------------------------------------
From Tuesday's New York Daily News:
Soap Mag Cleans Up Scandal:
Rumors about vote-rigging jeopardized awards telecast
By RICHARD HUFF
Daily News Staff Writer
Alleged vote-rigging on the part of folks at ABC's ''General Hospital''
nearly led to the cancellation of NBC's annual prime-time telecast of
the ''Soap Opera Digest Awards,'' set for Feb. 27.
Call it Soapgate.
Not since her peers left Susan Lucci off the Emmy nomination list in
1994 has an incident stirred up so much dust in the soap world.
Sources say executives at NBC were so furious at the alleged ballot-box
stuffing that they were going to cancel the show if the situation wasn't
rectified ù and fast.
Voting for the annual awards is conducted through a ballot that is
inserted into the November newsstand and subscriber issues of Soap Opera
Digest.
But what got NBC brass ù as well as the people behind the NBC soaps ù in
an uproar was word that someone at ABC had gone out and bought 317
issues of the magazine in an attempt to get ''General Hospital'' named
the best show. Sources say the information was garnered from a
California newspaper and magazine wholesaler who made the bulk sale to
somebody connected to ABC or the show.
NBC, which is home to ''Days of Our Lives,'' the show that runs off
almost every year with the favorite-soap award, freaked upon hearing
this news, and threatened Soap Opera Digest. ''Days'' has been voted
best show 11 of the past 13 years by the magazine's readers. ''General
Hospital'' (pictured) got the nod last year.
Likewise, when ABC staffers heard the initial round of ballots would not
be counted, they complained that the process was being corrupted, said
sources.
Insiders said the issue of ballot-box stuffing came up last year, but
the talk resulted in no changes in the process or the telecast.
''They told them to rectify the situation or there's a good chance we
won't air it,'' said a source.
ABC in a statement said the network had been advised that a wholesaler
had improperly sold the magazine after its issue date to a ''General
Hospital'' staffer.
No surprise, Soap Opera Digest, fearing a loss of millions of viewers ù
and millions of potential magazine buyers ù came up with a plan to
insert another ballot into an upcoming issue of the magazine. These
ballots, though, will go only to subscribers.
The publication has about 600,000 subscribers and sells about the same
number of copies on newstands. About 100,000 people vote yearly.
Because Soap Opera Digest editors were forced to rush the new ballot
into an already-in-production issue of the magazine, they included just
a brief note telling readers that ''due to a potential discrepancy the
previous ballot won't be counted.''
Soap Opera Digest editor Lynn Leahey said, ''We're happy that we could
arrive at a solution to the problem.''
An NBC spokeswoman said the network commends the magazine for its steps
to fix the problem.
''ABC supports Soap Opera Digest's decision to reballot for the 1998
Soap Opera Awards,'' ABC stated.
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:48:06 PST
From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Re: Helena and Tony and Jason
On 01/15/98 09:41:45 taiyin wrote:
>
>I don't know that it'll matter much in Jason's case because, even if
>he hasn't legally changed his name (which, considering his array of
>financial holdings, I'd find a little unlikely by this point) it's >not
as though he's pretending to be someone other than who he is.
i agree--it's pretty likely that he's legally changed his name by now.
but even the fact that his name is real doesn't change the fact that
his claim to be the baby's father ISN'T!
>Carly, however, could be in trouble (or she would be if Jason wasn't
>covering her butt for her). Tony or AJ could use that fact to h*lp
>prove that she is unstable.
that...among many other things! :)
>Brenda (though it seems to me that she came to the realizations that
>she did very quickly in this whole storyline).
true. makes me wonder if we have indeed reached the end. i hope not,
if only for the sake of realism.
>I don't think I'd mind them dragging it out if we at LEAST knew what
>Tess and Jimmy are after.
yeah, that's probably my feeling about it too. it just seems like we've
spent an AWFUL long time on this...too long to justify the lack of info
we still have about where all of this is going.
>And I must have way too much of a reality dose when I'm watching my
>soaps, because everytime I see Mac tied up, all I can think of is,
>"And how, exactly, does he go to the bathroom like that?" Bad, bad,
>bad.
LOL! but don't you remember--he's a soap person. they don't GO to the
bathroom! in fact, most of them don't even HAVE bathrooms! (i think
the exception, throughout gh/pc history, has been lucy, who only has
them as a place to have the occasional humorous seduction scene!)
i'm trying this from my regular email address, by the way, 'cause i'm
getting sick of having to switch over to hotmail every time. we'll see
if it works yet!
julie
p.s. ok, so i guess it doesn't work yet. back to hotmail. unless it
shows up later--my apologies for the duplicate if it does!
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:54:41 -0800
From: Jill <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: SOD Awards
I find it interesting that NBC, who has for <years> been accused of
"stuffing ballots" and totally skewing the SOD awards, is the network
that's complaining this time.
<G>
Jill
jtkirby@mcs.com
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:58:55 -0800
From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: SOD Awards
At 10:42 AM 1/14/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
>No surprise, Soap Opera Digest, fearing a loss of millions of viewers =97=
=20
>and millions of potential magazine buyers =97 came up with a plan to=20
>insert another ballot into an upcoming issue of the magazine. These=20
>ballots, though, will go only to subscribers.=20
Argh!
And Days/NBC has got a lot of room to talk!! Pfft.
Taiyin
"What did I do before I had you?"
- --"You were lost and confused."
-- Lucy and Kevin
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:16:25 -0800
From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Re: Helena and Tony and Jason
At 10:48 AM 1/14/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
>
>i agree--it's pretty likely that he's legally changed his name by now.
>but even the fact that his name is real doesn't change the fact that
>his claim to be the baby's father ISN'T!
Well, yes, obviously there is that. :-)
>>Carly, however, could be in trouble (or she would be if Jason wasn't
>>covering her butt for her). Tony or AJ could use that fact to h*lp
>>prove that she is unstable.
>
>that...among many other things! :)
Quite. It's not as though she hasn't given them ample ammunition. Between
stealing Tony's custody documents from Justus' office, drugging AJ, etc. --
as soon as they all start comparing notes, she'll be sunk. Or she would be
if Jason wasn't wasn't cleaning up after her so thoroughly.
Which is another reason why id don't understand why she just doesn't tell
AJ the truth. Jason has gotten rid of most of the evidence against her.
There really probably isn't enough left against her to get the kid away
from her.
>true. makes me wonder if we have indeed reached the end. i hope not,
>if only for the sake of realism.
Probably not. Guza kept saying that she was going to have a long road to
recovery ahead of her.
Taiyin
"What did I do before I had you?"
- --"You were lost and confused."
-- Lucy and Kevin
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:18:53 -0800
From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Hello!
Danielle wrote:
> Well, just wanted to introduce myself and add a few opinions on the shows.
Welcome, welcome, Danielle.
And I couldn't agree more about Rex.
I'm currently writhing in pain because of today's episode.
Taiyin
"Why can't Rex be like everyone else and just send a fruit basket?" -- Kevin
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:11:34 EST
From: Olio <Olio@aol.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Re: GH/PC Rex
In a message dated 98-01-14 14:20:56 EST, you write:
<<
And I couldn't agree more about Rex.
I'm currently writhing in pain because of today's episode. >>
I know! If Lucy had the evidence she needed, she should have ran out of
there as fast as she could! It was a little ridiculous. It was funny to watch
though.
I wonder if Rex went in her purse? Knowing Rex, he must have.
Danielle
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:56:24 -0800
From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Tony and AJ
Should both be lined up against a wall and be smacked by a rotation of
every father on the planet.
How DARE they decide that Jason is unfit to be a father? Omitting for the
moment the fact that he's NOT the father, as far as they know, he is. And
yet still they think they have the right to take that child away from him?
If I was Robin I wouldn't have been NEARLY so civil.
Bobbie, either.
Taiyin
"What did I do before I had you?"
- --"You were lost and confused."
-- Lucy and Kevin
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 02:08:46 -0500
From: "Mary Lu" <mlgianelli@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Tony and AJ
- ----------
> From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 15, 1998 5:56 PM
>
> How DARE they decide that Jason is unfit to be a father? Omitting for
the
> moment the fact that he's NOT the father, as far as they know, he is.
And
> yet still they think they have the right to take that child away from
him?
>
I am thoroughly enjoying this story and watching these guys react this way.
I don't agree with everything they say, of course, but I do like the
story. I like watching Tony so thoroughly self-destruct. I like AJ
finally getting some spine. There is a point to be made, although they are
only dancing around it: fathers DO have a right to be with their children.
Both of these guys have been pushed and pushed and pushed. Tony did it to
himself and so did AJ in a sense. When I get pushed and pushed and pushed
eventually I react. Whether I take it out on someone else or I take it out
on myself depends on the situation. However I WILL take it out somehow,
somewhere.
The only part of this story that I am not buying at all was how quick Jason
suddenly has feelings for an infant. I think too much of Steve Burton is
showing through too quickly. If Jason couldn't change for Robin, I don't
expect him to change overnight for the baby and that is exactly what he has
done. He is redeemed, somewhat, in my mind, when he had that conversation
with Carly saying that he felt AJ should know that the baby is his and
should have some say. This doesn't mean that I don't like the story,
though. I certainly do.
I predicted the "Three Mob Guys and a Baby" on Tuesday's episode... It was
great! Jason is going to have to realize one of these days that the baby
is taking up attention to his business and he can't have it both ways.
Both Jason and Robin (among MANY on GH lately) have lost so much touch with
reality. Brenda is not the only one on the show that is a mental case
waiting to happen.
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 06:49:39 PST
From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Re: Tony and AJ
taiyin wrote:
>How DARE they decide that Jason is unfit to be a father? Omitting >for
the moment the fact that he's NOT the father, as far as they >know, he
is. And yet still they think they have the right to take >that child
away from him?
and mary lu responded:
>There is a point to be made, although they are only dancing around >it:
fathers DO have a right to be with their children.
i'm completely with taiyin on this one. i do feel for tony and aj, in a
way--particularly for tony, who went through eight months looking
forward to being a father. but still, given the situation, their
behavior is INEXCUSABLE. they think jason is the father, and they think
they have the right to take that baby from him?!? how does that make
the point about fathers having a right to be with their children? the
point they're trying to make could more accurately be stated, "fathers
have a right to be with their children, unless the father is a mobster,"
or "fathers have a right to be with their children, as long as the
father is me."
in fact, it would seem to me this story is making the exact OPPOSITE
point...because at this point, i'd rather see this baby spend his entire
life with jason than go live with his actual father, aj, who only wants
him out of spite--because he wants to have what jason has. the point I'M
seeing in all this, is that you don't have to be related by blood to be
a parent.
>The only part of this story that I am not buying at all was how quick
>Jason suddenly has feelings for an infant.
well...i see your point, but i can buy it. jason's always been very
protective towards those who needed protection--carly, emily, robin,
even brenda. this child is the ULTIMATE in defenseless. plus, i think
he identifies very strongly with this kid, in that both he and the child
have this large extended family trying to lay claim to them, so trying
to maintain this baby's independence is, in large part, also trying to
maintain his own.
>Jason is going to have to realize one of these days that the baby
>is taking up attention to his business and he can't have it both >ways.
that i agree with 100%, and i think that will have to come sooner rather
than later. i thought, in fact, the goings-on while he was on the phone
the other day would have tipped him off already, but i guess not.
considering he was the first one to point out to sonny that his feelings
for brenda were making him stupid, and therefore vulnerable, he should
realize that his feelings for this baby are doing the exact same thing
to him.
julie
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:03:27 -0500 (EST)
From: "Ayn E Van syke (BSN)" <avansyke@soleil.acomp.usf.edu>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Katherine
>
> OK, well, I must say that, even though I didn't like Katherine and Scott
> when they were first paired together back in 1994, I actually liked them
> together today. This was the first time in gods know how long that
> Katherine didn't irritate the daylights out of me.
>
> Her being paired off with Stefan all the time, neck deep in angst and
> misery, makes it easy to forget that she can actually have a sense of
> humor. And I've gotten to the point of detesting Katherine so much, that I
> forgot I really do like Mary Beth Evans.
>
> But, for the brief time she was on today, she was actually very watchable.
>
> Taiyin
I agree 100% that Katherine and Scott were actually very interesting on
Tuesday. I am so torn about the Scott/Eve/Chris situation that this would
be a perfect solution. Besides the fact that I hate Katherine and the
Cassadines.
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:03:27 -0500 (EST)
From: "Ayn E Van syke (BSN)" <avansyke@soleil.acomp.usf.edu>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Katherine
>
> OK, well, I must say that, even though I didn't like Katherine and Scott
> when they were first paired together back in 1994, I actually liked them
> together today. This was the first time in gods know how long that
> Katherine didn't irritate the daylights out of me.
>
> Her being paired off with Stefan all the time, neck deep in angst and
> misery, makes it easy to forget that she can actually have a sense of
> humor. And I've gotten to the point of detesting Katherine so much, that I
> forgot I really do like Mary Beth Evans.
>
> But, for the brief time she was on today, she was actually very watchable.
>
> Taiyin
I agree 100% that Katherine and Scott were actually very interesting on
Tuesday. I am so torn about the Scott/Eve/Chris situation that this would
be a perfect solution. Besides the fact that I hate Katherine and the
Cassadines.
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 07:25:15 PST
From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Wendy Riche
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!
ok, i need to vent! way back when, during that farce of an ending for
the love story that WAS sonny and brenda, back when i was SERIOUSLY
considering giving up on this show for good...i wrote a very long, very
detailed, very NEGATIVE (although still well thought out) letter to
tptb, explaining my EXTREME dissatisfaction with the way the s&b ending
was handled. i sent copies to everyone whose name and address i could
get my hands on--including wendy riche, guza (even though it wasn't his
fault), and countless other producer-types. i knew it wouldn't do any
good (after all, nobody can change the past), but it made me feel a LOT
better.
until last night. when i got home last night and picked up my mail,
there was a postcard for me from general hospital. i KNOW it was just a
form letter, but it pissed me off. it said:
i personally wanted to thank you for writing to
general hospital. i love to read letters like yours
and have shared your thoughts with the entire cast.
it makes all of us happy to know you're enjoying the
stories and characters we've created for you.
we've got some really exciting stories that will
unfold over the next few months. so wait until
you see what's next--then write us and tell us
what you think! your opinion is extremely valuable
to us! again, thanks for writing and stay tuned!
wendy riche
executive producer
IT MAKES US ALL HAPPY TO KNOW YOU'RE ENJOYING THE STORIES AND CHARACTERS
WE'VE CREATED FOR YOU???? if any one sentence could sum up the exact
OPPOSITE of what my letter said, it would be that one! i would have
rather they never acknowledged my letter at ALL then to send me this
piece of patronizing fluff! i'm beginning to understand why it is that
riche has such a reputation for being unconcerned with viewers' thoughts
and opinions. would it be so hard to at least come up with two
DIFFERENT form postcards--one for positive letters, and one for negative
ones? something like, "i appreciate your input, and thank you for
taking the time to share your feelings. the opinions of our viewers are
extremely important to us, and i appreciate your candor. i am sorry
that you have been disappointed with general hospital recently, but we
are constantly developing new stories and characters, and i hope that
you enjoy the developments that will be unfolding in the weeks ahead.
please continue to keep us informed as to how we're doing! thanks for
writing, and stay tuned!" that took all of two minutes, completely off
the top of my head--is that so hard to do????
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
sorry--just had to get that out of my system!
so...to anybody who feels the urge to vent to tptb...don't expect much
in return!
julie
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 09:09:55 -0800
From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Wendy Riche
At 07:25 AM 1/15/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
>
>so...to anybody who feels the urge to vent to tptb...don't expect much
>in return!
Unless you do it in person.
Wendy Riche, among others (Bob Guza, Michelle Val Jean, a few other
writers, Tony Geary, Jackie Zeaman, Brad Maule and a few others) are going
to be The Museum of Television and Radio in Beverly Hills next Thursday
night. You could storm the museum and throw stale popcorn at her. <g>
I do understand your frustration, though, Julie.
Taiyin, who is going, but who will also leave the popcorn at home...
"Sacrifice yourself, my love slave."
- --"Oh, do with me what you will."
-- Lucy & Kevin, GH
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:59:27 PST
From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Logan's Last Chat
there's not an awful lot in the way of news in here, but i figured since
it was the last one...
(for those who haven't heard, logan is quitting the tvguide online
stuff--to be replaced by a group of three whose names i can't
remember--although he will still be doing the tv guide print column. he
said he was too busy to handle it all, so this week was his last online
chat.)
this is the edited version (i deleted out a bunch of stuff related to
the various other networks' soaps!)
julie
- ----------------------------------------------------------------
Michael Logan , January 13, 1998
Logan: Hi, MPWs! Well, this is it! The Last Chat (sorta like the Last
Supper, only more lo-cal...
...and I'm soooooo glad to be shipping out with a lip-smackin',
finger-lickin' good Wendy Riche scandal to dish with you about! As many
of you Webheads must already know, Wendela got caught purchasing back
issues of Soap Opera Digest (the one with the Awards ballot) from a
magazine wholesaler, and now the voting has to be redone.
SOD is reissuing the ballot in the next issue for subscribers only.
Readers will only have one week to get the ballots back ù in contrast to
the eight weeks they had the first time around ù so there's likely to be
some very interesting if not out and out weird winners this year. (I can
just see it now: Best Soap ù Sunset Beach!)
Actually, the whole thing is exceedingly ironic: What Wendy did (or more
accurately what the propman whom she sent out to get the extra issues
did) is nothing other shows haven't been doing for years. Almost every
show buys up as many issues as possible in order to stuff that ballot
box. Granted, no one has been caught striking a deal with a wholesaler,
but that's really the only difference. I'm sure you've got questions on
this topic, so hit me!
Selat2: Hi, Logan! Wondered if you could explain what the deal with the
Soap Opera Digest Awards is? I hear that NBC threatened to cancel the
show unless they did the balloting over?
Logan: That NBC rumor is not exactly true. Here's the scoop ù it's a
little lengthy, but trust me, it's juicy. Without naming names, let's
just say that one of Wendela's underlings got blotto drunk at an
industry party and boasted about the ballot-stuffing ù get this, right
in front of Ken Corday's publicist! I mean, like, can you spell
S-T-U-P-I-D??? Kenny Boy immediately went boo-hoo-hooing to NBC West
Coast Chief Don Ohlmeyer. An investigation followed, and when it was
discovered that Wendy had gotten hold of 300+ issues, the Peacock
threatened to cancel the Awards telecast. The network did not suggest a
re-vote because at this point they did not think it was possible
timewise. It was Digest that suggested the re-vote.
I feel so bad for Lynn Leahey and her staff: They've done nothing wrong,
yet are on the receiving end of a nightmarish load o' crap, but hey,
there's always a silver lining. Allowing only subscribers to vote will
perhaps be a better representation of the tastes of the magazine's loyal
core audience and will, of course, put an end to ballot-stuffing. Maybe
their subscription rates will even rise if that's the only way fans can
vote. Adding to the drama, ABC has issued a statement putting the entire
blame on the wholesaler, like somehow he forced those poor innocent,
well-meaning folks at GH to take those issues.
There was also a follow-up release in which ABC says in part that it is
"outraged at the recent press reports of alleged 'ballot stuffing'...The
matter was immediately looked into as soon as it was brought to our
attention and we found absolutely no validity to these claims
whatsoever... Any lingering allegations to the contrary are simply
ludicrous." So much for "The Year of the Soap"!
Elisevm15: Does Brenda's freak-out make any sense to you?
Logan: Not one damn bit. I mean, it all started with a lightbulb, for
cryin' out loud. I wonder where Guza researched this peculiar condition.
I must say though that I really liked the scenes a few days ago where
Brenda gave Robin the 411 about Baby Boy Morgan. It was GH at its best ù
loaded with the subtext of all their years together as friends. I love
that whole BBM story, especially Bobbie and Emily coming to the rescue
today when that snotty-ass social worker showed up.
I do have a question about that Mac storyline: How exactly is he going
to the potty? One can't help but wonder about these things.
[taiyin, guess you're not the only one who wondered! :) ]
Karenh97: Was it really Wendy? Or one of her henchmen?
Logan: No, it truly was one of her henchmen. I do hear, however, that
Wendy has just been convicted for dwarf-tossing.
Mauri21: Phyllis's trial: thumbs up or down? Now that I mention that,
did you see Roger Ebert recommending Debbi Morgan for Best Supporting
Actress?
Logan: Thumbs sideways. Yes I did hear Ebert's plug. Debbi also has a
fabulous box in this week's Entertainment Weekly article about Oscar
predictions. She's picked as the "Loveable Long Shot."
Soaps_Rules: This is NOT fair, Logan. Now Days will win EVERYTHING.
What about the best soap of 97, GL?:-(
Logan: I wouldn't assume Days is a shoo-in. Interestingly, the
subscriber audience of SOD tends to skew a bit older. Days has a very
large young audience. I wouldn't be surprised if, as a result of the
re-vote, shows like GL, AMC and Y&R took home a prize or two.
Wally459: Call me sicko, but I just love these juicy scandals!
Logan: Oh, me too, Wally! I would've been so ticked if this scandal had
broken next week, after I'd left TVGEN.
Barbara_47: How long do you think GH can afford to leave Tony Geary
without a storyline? Are they still waiting for Genie?
Logan: Tony has some very strong stuff coming up with or without Genie,
who still has not agreed to return to the show. She still remains under
contract, so legally she must return at some point.
Justjosie: Logan, what did you think of Brenda's gravesite scene on GH?
Logan: I wish Lily's hand had come out of the grave ù like at the end of
Carrie ù and strangled the hell out of VM.
Jenbo54: Logan, will you be at the SODs? Love to see you there.
Logan: I wouldn't miss it. I've never attended a real-life scandal.
CybilAnne: Logan, how can you leave us?!?! Don't you know we arrange our
schedules and family lives around your chat?!?!?!
Logan: Hey, reality bytes.
Sammsfan: Thanks, Logan, for your hilarious comments on the soaps! You
made Tuesdays nights worth staying home.
Logan: Hey, thanks! But now that Buffy's moving to Tuesdays, it won't be
a total loss. I appreciate the sentiment.
Wally459: Wendy and Hunter Tylo should get a two-for-one deal at an
institution!
Logan: With designer straitjackets.
JulieRhea: Are you still doing your TV Guide column?
Logan: Absolutely. I'm no fool.
Texas_Tech_CS: Michael, any last words?
Logan: Of course I've got last words.
I want to say that you people have been a complete and total blast on
these chats. Screw Buffy, Tuesdays will never be the same without you.
I shall miss you all very much (yes, Kristi, even you). Please know how
much I appreciate your support, your patronage, your wisecracks, even
your gripes during this year that I've been online. Many of your letters
in Ask Logan regarding my sayonara have torn a hole in my heart because
they are so sweet, so kind, so touching.
'Til we meet again (which, who knows, may happen sooner than we think
ùhow's that for being cryptic?), I want you all to keep the faith. The
soaps that we love so dearly may sometimes (OK, often) let us down, but
they are so worth sticking with, so worth fighting for. Keep TPTBs on
their toes. See ya soon, you Mouse-Pushing Wackos.
Logan (Who Has Left the Building)
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:31:05 -0800
From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Logan's Last Chat
Julie wrote:
>there's not an awful lot in the way of news in here, but i figured since=20
>it was the last one...
Maybe not much news, but a lot more details to the SOD Awards scandel.
<snort>
>(for those who haven't heard, logan is quitting the tvguide online=20
>stuff--to be replaced by a group of three whose names i can't=20
>remember--although he will still be doing the tv guide print column. he=20
>said he was too busy to handle it all, so this week was his last online=20
>chat.)
I am so bummed. I hadn't heard that. What a downer -- I *love* Logan. I
hope the new team are as much as smart ass as Logan is. ;-)
>just say that one of Wendela's underlings got blotto drunk at an=20
>industry party and boasted about the ballot-stuffing =97 get this, right=20
>in front of Ken Corday's publicist! I mean, like, can you spell=20
>S-T-U-P-I-D???
ROTFLMAO!!!! Oh man, stupidity that blatant deserves to be punished.
<sigh> The rest of us don't deserve it, but still, it is kind of funny.
>Kenny Boy immediately went boo-hoo-hooing to NBC West=20
>Coast Chief Don Ohlmeyer.=20
Cry baby. He's probably just upset because Wendy's flunkies bought up more
issues than his did. Nyah.
>I feel so bad for Lynn Leahey and her staff:=20
So do I. This really stinks for them. Their tiny little office must be
going out of their minds (their office in NYC really is very small; I can't
imagine how they must all trip over each other when they have something
this crazed to deal with).
>Elisevm15: Does Brenda's freak-out make any sense to you?
>
>Logan: Not one damn bit.=20
At least I'm not the only one.
>loaded with the subtext of all their years together as friends. I love=20
>that whole BBM story, especially Bobbie and Emily coming to the rescue=20
>today when that snotty-ass social worker showed up.
I always knew Logan, most of the time, had good taste!
>I do have a question about that Mac storyline: How exactly is he going=20
>to the potty? One can't help but wonder about these things.
>[taiyin, guess you're not the only one who wondered! :) ]
<snicker> My mind goes places with that question that none of you want to
hear about. ;-)
>Logan: No, it truly was one of her henchmen. I do hear, however, that=20
>Wendy has just been convicted for dwarf-tossing.
ROTFL!
>Logan: Tony has some very strong stuff coming up with or without Genie,=20
>who still has not agreed to return to the show. She still remains under=20
>contract, so legally she must return at some point.
Bah.
>Justjosie: Logan, what did you think of Brenda's gravesite scene on GH?
>Logan: I wish Lily's hand had come out of the grave =97 like at the end of=
=20
>Carrie =97 and strangled the hell out of VM.
Now THAT would have been fun to watch. ;-)
>Logan: Hey, thanks! But now that Buffy's moving to Tuesdays, it won't be=20
>a total loss. I appreciate the sentiment.
LOL! He really does have good taste.
It's really too bad that he's not going to do the chats anymore. I think
it gave him a much bigger audience, and much more of a voice, than he has
just doing the TVG articles. Soaps need more critiques, instead of just
yes-men or anti-soap bashers. There isn't much middle ground, and that
does all soaps a disservice.
Hopefully his replacements will keep it up.
Taiyin
"Sacrifice yourself, my love slave."
- --"Oh, do with me what you will."
-- Lucy & Kevin, GH
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:34:43 PST
From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Re: Logan's Last Chat
On 01/15/98 11:31:05 taiyin wrote:
>
>Maybe not much news, but a lot more details to the SOD Awards >scandel.
><snort>
well yes...logan DOES love a good scandal! especially one where riche's
involved--who, i often gather, isn't one of his favorite people! :)
>I am so bummed. I hadn't heard that. What a downer -- I *love*
>Logan. I hope the new team are as much as smart ass as Logan is. ;-)
i know--i just LOVE reading his stuff. i'll go search out the info on
his replacements--seems to me i hadn't heard of them, but perhaps you
guys have...
>It's really too bad that he's not going to do the chats anymore. I
>think it gave him a much bigger audience, and much more of a voice,
>than he has just doing the TVG articles. Soaps need more critiques,
>instead of just yes-men or anti-soap bashers. There isn't much >middle
ground, and that does all soaps a disservice.
i agree. and his measly little weekly tv guide column is just so SMALL,
and he has so many soaps to cover, that we rarely EVER get a mention of
anything gh or pc-related! the chats and ask logan, however, were
always FLOODED with gh stuff. (he always said we were among the most
prolific letter-writers of all soap fans he'd ever encountered! :)
>Hopefully his replacements will keep it up.
<sigh> i hope so too.
i'll go look that stuff up. back in a minute...
damnit, i can't find it! i THOUGHT i read it in logan's own words, in
his chat from LAST week, but this is all he says there:
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------Theresa2898:
What's the deal? There were posts saying you had been fired and replaced
by two people?
Logan: Let's just say the reports of my departure are highly erroneous.
First of all, I would have liked to announce my own departure, cleanly
and in my own inimitable style, but that option was taken away from me
by my successors, who announced it themselves. (But hey, I'm just
getting a teensy bit of my own medicine -- now I know how La Tylo must
have felt when I announced La Pregnancy.) Anyway, whoever put the info
online that not only was I fired from TVGEN but from TV Guide magazine
as well is one quirky prankster. None of this is true. Here's the 411:
I am voluntarily departing TVGEN because I am cross-eyed with
exhaustion.When I started last January, I originally agreed to six
months, then agreed to another six months, and now that time is up. I
have dearly loved the chats and the Ask Logans and most especially the
Q&As, but the workload has been a real killer, so I am taking a little
sabbatical from the Web, but only from the Web. I have not been fired
from TV Guide and look forward to continuing that column. Actually, I'm
not even leaving the Web: I've been invited to do some critic stuff on
Sony's Soap City site, which sounds like fun; I'll be doing a fan Q&A
later this month on the GH Mining Company site; the ever delightful and
eternally glamorous Kristen Powers (she made me say this) has asked me
to take part in SOD Online's Digest Awards Chat, which has me salivating
(she made me say that, too -- and if I didn't she was going to type it
anyway); and Lynn Leahey has extended an open invitation for me to do my
thing on the new SOD web site, so I'm sure you have not seen nor heard
the last of me.
Many, many of you have written to Ask Logan expressing disappointment in
my departure, and I want you to know I am very touched and very
overwhelmed. I busted my butt to make this site fun and informative, and
I'm very proud of the work I've done here, and your response means more
than I can ever say.
And, no, I'm not trying to pull a Jensen Buchanan.
Kendall_64: Congrats on your other offers, Logan. You will be missed.
Keep up the honest reporting.
Logan: Bless your heart! But the body's not cold yet. Our final chat
will be next Tuesday at this time, and I will delivering two more weeks
of Ask Logans and Q&As. Next week is the notoriously reclusive Susan
Flannery and, though he has not yet accepted my invitation, I hope to do
my last Q&A with (who else) God himself.
Angellillie: Rauch?
DynaRider: Tony Geary?
Logan: Of course Rauch! Geary is Da Man. Haven't you people learned
anything?
Kendall_64: I hope by your last interview with "God himself" you mean
Drake Hogestyn ;-)
Yoda48152: Sonny?? The God Father??
JRJofCBS: Rod Arrants?
Texas_Tech_CS: George Burns? ;)
Cherylin: Elvis?
Lonemesa: No Logan's favorite... TINA SLOAN.
Texas_Tech_CS: Any special type of questions that you want for your
final chat next week?
Logan: No, just send cash. Listen, I love you guys, please come back
next week for my swan song. You're the best!
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ok, now that's REALLY gonna bug me, 'cause i KNOW i read who his
replacements were SOMEWHERE. i'll look around and post them separately
if i find them.
julie
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:42:24 PST
From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Logan's replacements
found it! from the gossip section of pc online:
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FROM MICHAEL KAPE
former editor of Soap Opera NOW!
As you have probably heard by now, Michael Logan has decided to withdraw
from providing the online content for TV Guide's online soap opera site
effective January 15, 1998. TV Guide has asked the three of us to take
over responsibility for the content.
We are all very excited about the possibilities this holds, especially
since we've been directed by TV Guide to help make it the number one
soap opera site on the Internet. The soap opera area is already the most
popular part of TV Guide's Internet site, but the plans are to expand it
even more.
Joanna Coons most recently served as editor of Soapdish, the bi-weekly
publication. Prior to that, she had been Editorial Director for Soap
Opera NOW!--a weekly daytime newspaper available in both a print and
Internet edition, and an editor for Soap Opera Digest. She has also
worked as a writer on a number of soap operas.
Don Wagner has worked on the production side of telelvision for Merv
Griffen and David Frost. He worked for Soap Opera NOW! for 10 years,
first as Storylines Editor and then as the Managing Editor, as well as
the Story Editor for Soapdish for two years.
Michael Kape is one of the founders of Soap Opera NOW! and edited the
publication for 15 years. He also created the publication's Internet
site and its presence on America Online, where he held weekly Friday
afternoon chat rooms.
Under this new arrangement, Mr. Wagner will be taking over the "Ask
Logan" column (new name to be determined) and conducting interviews for
the Q&A section. Ms. Coons will also be doing Q&A and be working
on previews of the shows. Mr. Kape will be writing the news for the site
and will preside over the weekly online chats every Monday evening at 8
pm. However, visitors to the site can expect the trio to pop up
unexpectedly in any given week, since responsibility for all the content
will be shared.
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i must have read another announcement SOMEWHERE, because i SWEAR i
remember reading a comment that said the new chat guy has kind of a
similar no-holds-barred-tell-it-like-it-is style like logan does... but
i can't seem to find that, so maybe i hallucinated it! :)
guess this is the best i can do for now! hope that helps....
julie
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