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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: GH/PC: ADMIN: Test
Date: 29 Dec 1997 13:09:15 -0800
Please ignore this message. Xmission has been having severe problems with
a hacker over the past week, and so I'm just checking to make sure the list
is up and running.
<knock on wood>
ObGH/PC: Am I the only one who spent most of last week muttering either
"Shut up, Stefan," or "Shut up, Jax"? <sigh> Bleah. Although, I did LOVE
the face off between Jason and Stefan. I agree with Bobbie, I would LOVE
to see Stefan take on Jason. I don't necessarily think Jason could win,
but I think he would CERTAINLY give Stefan more of a run for his money than
he'd expect -- when Stefan looks at Jason all he sees is a punk in a black
leather motorcycle jacket. He'd be in for a rude awakening. I also loved
the scenes with Lucy and Nikolas, as Nikolas was having his stroke. I
think my favorite of all of GH last week, though, was Alan telling Jax that
he was no better than Sonny. FINALLY!
As for PC... am I the only one who sees Eve and Chris and is reminded of
early Scott and Lucy? I loved Scott and Lucy (in the pre-Doc days), and so
I'm enjoying the hell out of the two of them. I'm really glad they are
involving Eve in so many storylines, because she is so much fun to watch in
so many circumstances. I do adore her with Scott, but with Chris she
really, really reminds me of an old Lucy. Maybe that's why Lucy has such
an aversion to her. ;-)
Taiyin
GH/PC and Kevin & Lucy Mailing Lists and Fanfiction
Archive: http://users.ap.net/~taiyin/lists/index.html
The Ultimate General Hospital/Port Charles Links Page:
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General Home Page Index: http://users.ap.net/~taiyin/
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From: "Mary Lu" <mlgianelli@sprintmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: PC: Scotty's dreams?
Date: 29 Dec 1997 17:49:08 -0500
I've had to miss quite a bit of Port Charles over the holidays and have
totally missed out on the dreams that Scotty has been having the past
couple of episodes. If someone doesn't mind, could they please fill me in
on what has been going on in them?
Thanks!
Mary Lu
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: PC: Scotty's dreams?
Date: 29 Dec 1997 14:58:02 -0800
Mary Lu asked:
>I've had to miss quite a bit of Port Charles over the holidays and have
>totally missed out on the dreams that Scotty has been having the past
>couple of episodes. If someone doesn't mind, could they please fill me in
>on what has been going on in them?
The only one so far was on Friday. Scott dreamed that he woke up on the
couch in the firehouse (which is where he was sleeping) and found Dom
standing in the foray. He hugged her, told her he loved and how much he
missed her and then she started crying and said that he was going to lose
her (meaning Serena).
She then (almost) begged Scott not to lose Serena.
So far, that's been it.
Alora
"You, professor, have a dirty mind."
--"You don't know the half of it, Lucy."
-- Lucy and Kevin
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From: "Mary Lu" <mlgianelli@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: PC: Scotty's dreams?
Date: 29 Dec 1997 21:45:51 -0500
----------
> From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
> Date: Monday, December 29, 1997 5:58 PM
>
> ...then she started crying and said that he was going to lose
> her (meaning Serena).
>
> She then (almost) begged Scott not to lose Serena.
>
> So far, that's been it.
>
That's it??? I was sort of hoping that Dom would tell Scotty that she was
behind him all the way... Was this more like a "nightmare" for Scotty as
opposed to the way Dom shows up for Serena "in real life"? I hope you
understand that question! What I'm trying to get at is if this is what
Scotty is imagining Dom thinking about all of this compared to the
reassurance that Dom is giving to Serena....
Mary Lu
I hate it when I have to miss episodes like this....
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: PC: Scotty's dreams?
Date: 30 Dec 1997 18:55:11 -0800
>That's it??? I was sort of hoping that Dom would tell Scotty that she was
>behind him all the way...
Not so far.
>Was this more like a "nightmare" for Scotty as
>opposed to the way Dom shows up for Serena "in real life"? I hope you
>understand that question!
Yeah, I get what you're saying, but no, that's not what happened. It still
could, though, so don't lose hope. :-)
>What I'm trying to get at is if this is what
>Scotty is imagining Dom thinking about all of this compared to the
>reassurance that Dom is giving to Serena....
Well, I mean, since the audience knows that Dom is really there, we would
definitely be led to believe that Dom was in charge of that dream. As it
is, I'm sure Scott is just feeling a little freaked and slightly paranoid.
He's not like Lucy -- he's not going to find a reassurance and comfort in
the thought of Dom *really* being there, because (at least so far) he
doesn't actually really *believe* she is there. He just knows that he had
a dream that not only predicted what he fears most, but that he's also
going to be disappointing the love of his life.
>I hate it when I have to miss episodes like this....
Beleive me, I know the feeling.
Taiyin
"What did I do before I had you?"
--"You were lost and confused."
-- Lucy and Kevin
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From: Klsatlin <Klsatlin@aol.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: PC: Scotty's dreams?
Date: 29 Dec 1997 23:00:19 EST
In a message dated 97-12-29 18:07:03 EST, you write:
<< The only one so far was on Friday. Scott dreamed that he woke up on the
couch in the firehouse (which is where he was sleeping) and found Dom
standing in the foray. He hugged her, told her he loved and how much he
missed her and then she started crying and said that he was going to lose
her (meaning Serena).
She then (almost) begged Scott not to lose Serena.
>>
Are we sure it was Serena that she was referring to? I got the impression
that maybe Dom sees Eve as Scotty's great love (after herself, of course), and
that he might lose her if he doesn't try harder. It seemed to fit, especially
right after that scene with Eve and Chris where Eve said something about
Scott, and then ended up kissing Chris.
Then again, maybe it's just me. I am CEO of FPCO Scott and Eve :).
Karen
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Scott/Eve/Chris
Date: 30 Dec 1997 20:44:48 -0800
I didn't want to like Eve and Chris this much.
The pragmatist in me kept saying, "Scott and Eve! Scott and Eve!" -- in an
attempt, of course, to prevent anyone from getting any hairbrained ideas
about sepereating Kevin & Lucy, in favor of Scott and Lucy... but now...
I am REALLY loving Chris and Eve.
OTOH, I think it's at least partially that Eve is just so completely
watchable. I don't think I've ever been bored watching her with anyone
(I've been bored watching Julie moralize at Eve, but not actually bored
with Eve). I love her interaction with Kevin, Lucy and Scott; she and
Chris are really great (and are reminding me every day of a slightly
sweeter early Scott and Lucy); she cracks me up whenever she's with either
of the Scanlon brothers; and she's adorable with Serena.
Of course, my vote could change once Eve and Scott have that scene they
keep showing during the promo that airs during GH, too.
I don't know. I don't recall ever actually being this undecided in a love
triangle situation. I've always been in favor of one pairing or the other,
never torn like this.
Fabulous.
Taiyin
"What did I do before I had you?"
--"You were lost and confused."
-- Lucy and Kevin
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: PC: Scotty's dreams?
Date: 30 Dec 1997 22:04:07 -0800
At 11:00 PM 12/29/97 EST, Klsatlin wrote:
>Are we sure it was Serena that she was referring to?
No, you're right. We aren't. I thought it implied Serena until I saw
today's ep (which I watched right after I posted that). Now I think it
could be Serena, Eve or Lucy. Dom DEFINITELY said "she" though. It wasn't
the androgynous "someone" that Scott kept mentioning today.
>that he might lose her if he doesn't try harder. It seemed to fit,
especially
>right after that scene with Eve and Chris where Eve said something about
>Scott, and then ended up kissing Chris.
Entirely possible.
>Then again, maybe it's just me. I am CEO of FPCO Scott and Eve :).
I was heavily ensconced in the Scott and Eve camp until a couple of weeks
ago... now I'm hedging. In no particular direction, though. :-)
Taiyin
"What did I do before I had you?"
--"You were lost and confused."
-- Lucy and Kevin
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From: "Ayn E Van syke (BSN)" <avansyke@soleil.acomp.usf.edu>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Scott/Eve/Chris
Date: 30 Dec 1997 08:56:46 -0500 (EST)
I didn't know what to cut from your post because almost everything you
said I agree with completely. Scott and Eve had chemistry from the get-go
but Chris and Eve chemistry slowly built and I change my mind of who I
want her with depending on who she is with in the scene. I used to like
Julie but her character never fully developed and bores me to tears now.
She and Frank make-out like a bunch of love-sick teens (Eve said something
to that effect Friday). What you said about Eve and the Scanlon brothers
she has chemistry with them as well. I could even see a Frank and Eve
pairing. I love her scences with Ben, Serena, Rex, etc. If PC would
develop everyones character as much as they have developed hers the show
would be much more watchable. Other than Eve many of the new characters
are isolated in their own groups of people and most of them are
one-dimensional. Lucy and Doc just don't belong with these people in my
opinion and I wish they would go back to GH with Scotty visiting the show
often. I miss Mac and Kevin.
On Tue, 30 Dec 1997, Taiyin wrote:
> The pragmatist in me kept saying, "Scott and Eve! Scott and Eve!" -- in an
> attempt, of course, to prevent anyone from getting any hairbrained ideas
> about sepereating Kevin & Lucy, in favor of Scott and Lucy... but now...
>
> I am REALLY loving Chris and Eve.
>
> OTOH, I think it's at least partially that Eve is just so completely
> watchable. I don't think I've ever been bored watching her with anyone
> (I've been bored watching Julie moralize at Eve, but not actually bored
> with Eve). I love her interaction with Kevin, Lucy and Scott; she and
> Chris are really great (and are reminding me every day of a slightly
> sweeter early Scott and Lucy); she cracks me up whenever she's with either
> of the Scanlon brothers; and she's adorable with Serena.
>
> I don't know. I don't recall ever actually being this undecided in a love
> triangle situation. I've always been in favor of one pairing or the other,
> never torn like this.
>
> Fabulous.
>
> Taiyin
> "What did I do before I had you?"
> --"You were lost and confused."
> -- Lucy and Kevin
>
> -
>
>
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From: "Ayn E Van syke (BSN)" <avansyke@soleil.acomp.usf.edu>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Scott/Eve/Chris
Date: 30 Dec 1997 08:56:46 -0500 (EST)
I didn't know what to cut from your post because almost everything you
said I agree with completely. Scott and Eve had chemistry from the get-go
but Chris and Eve chemistry slowly built and I change my mind of who I
want her with depending on who she is with in the scene. I used to like
Julie but her character never fully developed and bores me to tears now.
She and Frank make-out like a bunch of love-sick teens (Eve said something
to that effect Friday). What you said about Eve and the Scanlon brothers
she has chemistry with them as well. I could even see a Frank and Eve
pairing. I love her scences with Ben, Serena, Rex, etc. If PC would
develop everyones character as much as they have developed hers the show
would be much more watchable. Other than Eve many of the new characters
are isolated in their own groups of people and most of them are
one-dimensional. Lucy and Doc just don't belong with these people in my
opinion and I wish they would go back to GH with Scotty visiting the show
often. I miss Mac and Kevin.
On Tue, 30 Dec 1997, Taiyin wrote:
> The pragmatist in me kept saying, "Scott and Eve! Scott and Eve!" -- in an
> attempt, of course, to prevent anyone from getting any hairbrained ideas
> about sepereating Kevin & Lucy, in favor of Scott and Lucy... but now...
>
> I am REALLY loving Chris and Eve.
>
> OTOH, I think it's at least partially that Eve is just so completely
> watchable. I don't think I've ever been bored watching her with anyone
> (I've been bored watching Julie moralize at Eve, but not actually bored
> with Eve). I love her interaction with Kevin, Lucy and Scott; she and
> Chris are really great (and are reminding me every day of a slightly
> sweeter early Scott and Lucy); she cracks me up whenever she's with either
> of the Scanlon brothers; and she's adorable with Serena.
>
> I don't know. I don't recall ever actually being this undecided in a love
> triangle situation. I've always been in favor of one pairing or the other,
> never torn like this.
>
> Fabulous.
>
> Taiyin
> "What did I do before I had you?"
> --"You were lost and confused."
> -- Lucy and Kevin
>
> -
>
>
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Scott/Eve/Chris
Date: 30 Dec 1997 10:25:10 -0800
Ayn wrote:
>want her with depending on who she is with in the scene. I used to like
>Julie but her character never fully developed and bores me to tears now.
I agree. I really liked her in the beginning when she was insisting on her
independence and wouldn't let her father influence her career at all.
Although, I must admit that, in that regard, she has improved a bit in the
past week or two. Let's just see if it sticks.
>she has chemistry with them as well. I could even see a Frank and Eve
>pairing.
I would LOVE to see that combo -- though I don't think I need to be anymore
torn when it comes to Eve's lovelife. <g>
>I love her scences with Ben, Serena, Rex, etc. If PC would
>develop everyones character as much as they have developed hers the show
>would be much more watchable. Other than Eve many of the new characters
>are isolated in their own groups of people and most of them are
>one-dimensional.
Well, in the case of Rex, I would certainly agree. Julie, too, for the
most part. And Jake -- though I think Danielle's death has gone a long way
toward improving him. I wouldn't agree, though, when it comes to Matt,
Chris, Karen or either one of the Scanlon brothers, really. And the
storyline they are starting right now with Ellen should go a LONG way
towards developing her character more.
But, actually, if you look at it, about half the cast of PC started out on
GH. Kevin, Lucy and Scott (and Karen) are just the ones who are front and
center on PC the most. I think the primary objection I have to the GH/PC
transfer of characters is the handling of Mike -- they TOTALLY neglect him.
>Lucy and Doc just don't belong with these people in my
>opinion and I wish they would go back to GH with Scotty visiting the show
>often. I miss Mac and Kevin.
Well, I disagree with that -- if for no other reason than because (a) I
think that the way Lynn Latham writes Kevin and Lucy is just magnificent
and I remember all too well how badly Guza does the two of them. And (b)
because when Kevin and Lucy were on GH they spent YEARS (literally)
straddling the back-burner. I'd rather have them on almost every day, with
great dialogue and snappy raprte, but seperated from much of their old
context, than back on GH, showing up once or twice a week as window
dressing for the ongoing Spencer/Cassasinde, soon-to-include
Quartermaine/Morgan war.
I kind of miss Mac and Kevin. The only GH relationship with them that I
REALLY miss, though, is Luke and Lucy. And I do whine about that every so
often on the K&L list. <g>
Taiyin
"You, professor, have a dirty mind."
--"You don't know the half of it, Lucy."
-- Lucy and Kevin
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: GH/PC: ADMIN: Test
Date: 30 Dec 1997 11:00:19 -0800
If any stray test messages come through from either myself or Julie, please
ignore them. We are having a problem with her s*bscription and are trying
to get it fixed.
In general, though, please don't send test messages to the lists.
Thanks,
Taiyin
"You, professor, have a dirty mind."
--"You don't know the half of it, Lucy."
-- Lucy and Kevin
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From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Tony and Bobbie
Date: 30 Dec 1997 18:52:39 -0500
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Hi everybody. I am back from my new York vacation, and I have a lot to say
about Tony. God I hate Tony!!! The presumptuousness of that man. He accepts
the fact that Carly has had an affair. He logically knows that the time he
thinks Carly and Jason slept together could have resulted in her pregnancy.
However he calls the baby his son. That man is in denial about a few things.
Also, today he had no concern for Carly's welfare. This is a woman that he
was planning to marry an is the mother of what may be his child. He actually
said that he didn't care about Carly, and Jason could do whatever he wanted
with her. I know that isn't verbatim, but oh well that was the main gist of
it. I don't know if Bobbie told him of the gravity of Carly's situation on
the phone.However he should know that a woman that delivers a month early
might possibly have some kind of medical problems. There wasn't even a
"What's her condition like". I don't want him to fall back in love with her.
That is most definitely not what I am saying, but even I would wonder about
the condition of my worst enemy if he or she was injured.
I have to say Bravo to Bobbie. I loved her pleading with Jason over
Carly's surgery. I can't believe that Carly is basically leading the same
life that Bobbie did: mothering a child and not being sure who the father
is, having something wrong with your uterus that could ultimately lead to
the loss of it. I also loved that Jason said that he would tell Carly that
it was Bobbie that convinced him about what to do. I have a question. Does
Jason have power of attorney over both Carly and the baby or just over
Carly? Carly said that the lawyer never asked if Jason was the real father.
Can someone have power of attorney over a child whose paternity has not yet
been decided? I know that tomorrow Jason says"Nothing will be done to that
boy unless I say so". I am so glad that Guza is back. Have I said that
already? I am so glad that General Hospital is getting good again. I don't
know if you all noticed, but it was getting boring there for awhile.
Jamila
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Tony and Bobbie
Date: 30 Dec 1997 16:04:41 -0800
At 06:52 PM 12/30/97 -0500, Donald K Gooden wrote:
>I am so glad that Guza is back. Have I said that
>already? I am so glad that General Hospital is getting good again. I don't
>know if you all noticed, but it was getting boring there for awhile.
Actually, I'd say that GH spent MONTHS being insufferable to the point of
unwatchable much of the time.
And I agree, I'm glad things are improving.
Very, very glad.
Taiyin
"Been held-up at gun point by your mother lately?" -- AJ to Ned
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From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: SPOILERS part one
Date: 30 Dec 1997 22:11:54 -0500
Sorry these are late. I know that it ia already the middle of the week.
Jamila
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Scoop Celebration
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Alexis tells Stefan the truth, but he still won't have anything to do with
her.
Nikolas gives Lucky a break.
Jason, Brenda and Jax have a heated confrontation.
Mac calls Felicia, but he is quickly cut off.
Carly's baby faces a life-and-death struggle.
Stefan asks Katherine to take a big step.
Nikolas and Sarah can't connect.
Elizabeth frets when Lucky is a no-show.
Brenda fears for her health, but Jax finds a way to lift her spirits.
Bobbie has a profound experience without even realizing it.
Felicia fights with "Mac".
Tony and Jason argue over Carly's baby.
A.J. makes a decision to protect his family.
Carly has an emotional experience.
Edward makes Emily a shocking offer.
----
On Monday, Alexis finishes telling Stefan the secret that she's his sister
but he doesn't believe her. Stefan refuses to look at her proof thinking she
could have easily forged the documents. Alexis pleads for him to help her
and that she's afraid Helena will kill her. Stefan tells her to go to her
friend, Luke, for protection, if she needs it. --- Carly lies unconscious at
Jason's Penthouse, and gives birth today.
On Tuesday, Tess has special plans for Mac, involving a razor. Mac manages
to dial Felicia but will he be able to warn her before Tess returns? ---
Carly's baby has a heart problem and Carly slips into a coma, needing
emergency surgery.
On Wednesday, Jax is determined for Brenda to enjoy New Year's Eve. J&B
spend the holiday together without champagne, tuxedos or evening dresses.
For the first time in weeks, Brenda laughs and appears almost happy. ---
Tony discovers the baby's blood type and learns the baby is NOT his. Nik
returns home to find Sarah and it's not a happy reunion. --- The Q's
converge on the neo-natal unit and argue about the future of Carly's baby.
If the Thursday and Friday
updates are available, they
will be posted Thursday morning.
Alert
Monday
Jason is horrified at what he finds when he returns home.
Carly's son is born, Bobbie is unaware that she is holding her grandchild
Tuesday
Bobbie makes a plea for Carly, as Carly lies close to death.
Wednesday
Stefan's request shocks Katherine.
Thursday
GH will be pre-empted.
Friday
Brenda has a violent reaction when she hears some distressing news.
Tony will get surprising results.
Carly breaks down when she sees her son for the first time.
----
Coming Soon
Carly makes a shocking decision.
Jason has an unexpected visitor.
Brenda's paranoia escalates.
Tony vows revenge on Jason.
Brenda confides in Robin.
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From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: spolers part two
Date: 30 Dec 1997 22:15:40 -0500
Most of these has already been played this week, but it offers Jackie
Zeman's insight to the Carly thing.
Jamila
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As The New Year Begins
Helena and Stefan are both focused on Nikolas' well-being, but these have
different methods of handling such matters of importance. Helena wants a
secret alliance with Katherine, who feels that silence is not golden and
wants to tell all to Stefan. She might *want to,* but will she is the
question and Helena warns Katherine: "piss me off and pay the
consequences."
Jason rebuffs Brenda and tells her that avenging Sonny won't bring him back
into her life: "face facts, he's gone ... period, end of discussion."
Completely thrown by what Jason says, Brenda begins to believe that she's
completely losing it. When Jax returns to the cottage he finds Jason and
Brenda alone, and both men perceive Brenda's problems different. One believe
things are rooted in her heart whereas the other feels they come from her
head.
Brenda receives a call from the one person who fully understands what it
means to lose someone you love: Robin, and her spirits are momentarily
lifted, but not for long. Although he remains by her side "through thick and
thin," Jax watches Brenda's emotional state slowly unravel. Like pulling the
stitches out of a knit sweater, Brenda's behavior goes from good to bad and
finally to worse. Convinced that Sonny is out to destroy her life one way or
the other, Brenda's paranoia culminates in an action which could make her a
danger to herself or to others, Jax sees what the problems are and tells
Brenda that she will have to face her problems head on if she is ever to get
well.
When Jason returns to the penthouse he finds Carly lying in her pool of
blood and calls the paramedics to rush her to GH. Upon arrival, Carly is
prepared for surgery and she begs Bobbie not to let anyone take her baby. A
short time later, Bobbie holds the newborn totally unaware that this is her
grandson, and at the same time Carly goes into cardiac arrest. Looking back
on her own life, Bobbie pleads with Jason to not allow a hysterectomy to be
performed. More problems arise when the newborn needs surgery, and Jason and
Tony argue over the proper medical treatment --- but it is Jason who makes
the final decision. Following surgery, Tony discovers that he is not the
child's biological father. Bobbie shares the news of the baby's paternity
with the Q's, and Edward makes plans of his own for the new Quartermaine
heir ... plans which irk Emily. When Carly awakens she believes that her
child is dead, but is reassured by both Bobbie and Jason that her child did
not die.
----
Bobbie Helps Carly Deliver
Her Baby on GH
Carly's stressful pregnancy ends with the emergency delivery of her son this
week on GH. Immediately, both mother and child face medical crises, and
Bobbie, who has no idea she is the baby's grandmother - winds up with the
newborn baby in her arms. Jason rushes Carly to the hospital after having
found her at home passed out in a pool of blood. Bobbie, who is on duty,
scrubs for surgery, and a terrified Carly begs her not to let anyone take
her baby. Despite their bitter history, Bobbie tries to do the right thing
not only for the child but for Carly, convincing Jason not to allow doctors
to give her a hysterectomy. "Bobbie bonds with the baby immediately in an
uncanny, very strange way,"
Jacklyn Zeman says. "She says, 'Oh, I bond will all the babies I deliver'
even though she doesn't actually deliver this one -- but there is a genetic
pull which can't be explained. I think it's also the first time Bobbie sees
the vulnerability in Carly, and as much as they have been at war with one
another, and there's been so much dysfunction in the relationship, Bobbie
really understands when Carly says "Don't let them hurt my baby. Don't let
them take my baby." That really opens up Bobbie's heart to her, and she
sees her on a different level."
Things take a turn for the worse after the delivery when Carly goes into
cardiac arrest and the baby develops a problem. Jason finds himself in the
middle of both situations, and does battle with Tony over the proper course
of treatment for the child. Surgery proves successful, but also provides the
answer Tony has dreaded: that he cannot possibly be the father. Bobbie
feels very sad for Tony, but her sympathies and allegiance are with the
mother, having been there herself (as an unwed mother whose child - Carly -
was taken away from her at birth). Bobbie is totally in sync with Carly
being the mother, and maybe Tony was excited about the baby and did spend
all those months thinking it was his, but in reality it's not. The fact
that he spend nine months preparing for the baby and wanting it doesn't mean
he gets to keep it, because it's not his.
Although Zeman thinks Tony feels betrayed by Bobbie, she doesn't think she
is taking sides. "It's just so simple to Bobbie: What's right is right, and
that is that you've got to give the real parents a chance. Carly doesn't
deserve to have her baby taken from her and Tony is really set to do this
custody battle. That's something you can't win unless you fight dirty and
tell lies, because Carly really hasn't done anything wrong. She lied to
him, but there's no law against that. Tony made his bed and now he has to
lie in it. It's not Carly's fault that Tony threw away his wholel ife, his
wife and family, and is now looking around and saying, "Oh gee, I gave up
everything."
<Source: SOW>
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SOW Editors Resolutions For Soaps
If They Were Writer's/Producers
Bring back Laura to complicate the Stefan/Katherine love story.
Bring back Lois.
Put Jax and Brenda together soon, or give him a new love interest.
With the battle lines once again drawn between the Cassadines and the
Spencers, give us a Robin/Nikolas romance, a Luke/Alexis affair, and the
Stefan is Nikolas' father reveal.
Pursue a Jason/Carly/AJ triangle.
Don't stop Alan's drug story until he hits rock bottom.
And Bob Guza: Vacation anywhere you want but the "Beach."
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From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: spoilers Port Charles
Date: 30 Dec 1997 22:24:39 -0500
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Well Well! You might not want to read these. They have a particularly
disturbing spoiler about L and K. It is about Rex and Lucy's kiss, but there
is something else.
Jamila
Scoop Celebration
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Dominique takes Scott on an incredible journey.
Kevin and Lucy argue over her methods for entrapping Rex, but soon find an
enjoyable way to make up.
Frank and Julie's romantic evening is interrupted by a minor crisis.
Joe and Karen's latest mishap leaves them with only the bare essentials.
Scott throws a New Year's Eve party that gets most of PC in a romantic move.
Lucy reverts to her old ways to win Rex over, and gets more than she
bargained for.
Chris makes Eve an offer that she can't refuse.
Matt makes his move.
Ellen's younger brother, Winston, arrives in Port Charles with two issues:
Ellen's estrangement from her mother, and the story behind Ellen's
mysterious husband who died.
Frank and Julie take a major step.
Lark moves into the Scanlon home, and gives both brothers plus Julie a run
for their money.
Chris tries to delve into Matt's past.
Dominique says goodbye.
Rex steals something from Lucy.
Both Karen & Joe as well as Frank & Julie spent the night together, but only
one couple make love.
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Dominique is the Ghost of Christmas Past as she takes Scott on a special
journey, to help him understand what changes he has to make in order to
offer Serena the best future. Along the way Scott learns that he must open
his head and heart to love again.
Scott , taking his cue from Dominique, hosts a New Year's Eve party and
shares a passionate kiss with Eve. If he had his way, Scott would've stayed
in Canada living alone with his daughter. He is involved with friends and
family now because of the bind he is in. What he did not realize is that
children learn from example. And the example that he has shown Serena is
that he is always looking back, constantly regretting the past. Scott
probably would've ignored Dominique's plea if he thought only his own future
was in danger. But seeing the effect of his attitude on the people around
him, especially Serena, spurs him into action. Opening his house up to
friends and family, he's going to begin opening himself up emotionally to
other people. In truth, he is terribly attracted to Eve. As the clock
strikes 12, it doesn't look like Scott & Eve are on the brink of a romantic
relationship: She is kissing Chris. Chris grabs her and Scott looks over
and feels a pang of jealousy. He looks back to hug someone else, then he
and Eve wind up next to each other, and it is a spontaneous kiss, but they
are both aware of what's happening.
Ellen and Matt are also at the party. Earlier in the evening, Matt kisses
Grace, but at midnight he happens to be talking to Ellen, who previously had
rejected his overtures. Grace is talking to someone else. He's not
seeking Ellen out; it's just a situation.
Frank and Julie also find themselves well situated to take their
relationship to the next stage. With all that Julie has been through in the
past six months, she is not really ready for a serious relationship. She is
afraid that Frank is looking for something more serious. In truth, Frank is
no more ready for commitment than Julie is, which they discover when they
finally broach the subject. Once they resolve that issue, they are ready to
take the next step, and they make love for the first time.
Joe & Karen, alone at his friend's cabin, are forced to ring in the New Year
in front of a roaring fire, naked, after their clothes get soaked. So now
you take one young couple with eyes for each other . Throw in some sexual
tension ... no electricity ... a leak in the closet which drenches their
clothing ... add a cozy blanket and a roaring fire ... and then top it off
with no condoms, and what do you get?
There's just so much patience that anyone has, and Kevin is about to run out
as "Juicy Lucy" plans to put the moves on Rex, whom she believes is totally
unsuspecting - but won't she be surprised! Anger and fear turn to passion,
and Kevin & Lucy make passionate love. Later on, Kevin's worries surface
again when he knows that Lucy will be toasting the new year with Rex. ...
and Rex certainly wants to start the new year off "with a bang" when he
confiscates Lucy's fertility pills before preparing to trip the light
fantastic.
<Source: SOW>
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Alert
Monday
Lucy comes on to Rex.
Tuesday
Dominique takes Scott on a journey that will change his life.
Frank and Julie receive an unexpected house guest.
Wednesday
Romance runs rampant all over town.
Matt surprises Ellen on New Year's Eve.
Thursday
PC will be pre-empted.
Friday
Eve catches Julie in a compromising situation.
Kevin watches as Lucy and Rex kiss.
Dominique says goodbye to Scott and Serena.
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Coming Soon
Ellen's past comes into focus for Matt.
Rex puts Lucy's life in danger.
The Scanlon brothers clash over their father.
Lucy's testimony hurts Scott's case.
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From: "Mary Lu" <mlgianelli@sprintmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: GH: Thoughts on Tony/AJ/Jason
Date: 31 Dec 1997 22:42:59 -0500
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I hope that's enough.....
Ok, I'm probably going to write something that most people won't agree with
(since I seem to detect A LOT of pro Carly/AJ talk... not altogether bad,
but people are being almost venomous against AJ and Tony. I am going to
write in defense of their actions...
Tony. So, I feel sort of sorry for the guy. When you have been acting
like a total jerk for so long and are starting to come around to what a
pathetic life you have been living for the past two years (and even longer)
it is REALLY going to hurt. I will never, ever forget the scenes he had
when BJ died. I think those defined his character since then. He is
ruthless when he tosses women out (and I can't forget that, either), but
this guy has had reasons for acting like he has. Then, for seven months he
has been looking forward to a new baby. Forget how he treated Carly (and I
do believe it was terrible), but if I had to go through the hopes and joys
surrounding the promise of a new baby that I thought was my own flesh and
blood, it would take me a lot longer than a month to get over it. This guy
looks like he is heading for one HUGE mid-life crisis to hit and he has NO
ONE that in any way, shape or form, is going to give him any sympathy for.
If the writers play it right, Brad Maule may have another emmy nomination
performance coming up. The look on his face today when he knew that the
baby was NOT his... this guy is going to be heading for a bigger dose of
reality than he may ever have had to deal with, barring BJ's death. This
may very well get him past that and finally on with the rest of his life...
and maybe I could enjoy his scenes again. I would be more interested in
this particular breakdown than the one Brenda is going through because I
can relate to this one a bit more. I do agree with comments about his lack
of perspective in the surgery needed for the baby, though. I thought his
reaction was irrational, but he might have a hard time being rational about
anything right now. The baby's needs should be first, however. How
ironic, though, that the baby had a heart defect since BJ's heart is the
only thing of her that remains alive at this time.
AJ... Unless they are going to pull a fast one on us, AJ is definitely the
father of that baby. I think the biological father has a right to know the
baby if he has fought for that right all along. AJ is a perfect example of
someone who possibly had his whole life screwed up because his own father
never bonded with him in a way father's should bond. Why does everyone
want AJ out of the picture as having any rights to the baby? The deed is
done, the biology is there. We now have daddy AJ. I think he would make a
great father. His comments about his needing to be pealed off the ceiling
of the waiting room during the baby's surgery were very appropriate and
natural. I only wish he would stand up to Jason and the rest of the Q's
and tell them WHY he believes so strongly that he is the real father. The
lack of a strong enough backbone is the biggest flaw I see in the AJ
character at this time.
Jason... I love his scenes with Carly. No doubt about it, the scenes are
terrific. It would be more interesting to me, in a way, if he were the
father, but he isn't and knows it. But that is why those scenes work so
well. If I had any doubt that he was the father and a mobster at the same
time, I would be out of there in a minute. No baby is safe around that
group. As long as the mob keeps missing with their bullets and others get
killed, how could Carly assume that she and the baby are safe? My maternal
instincts would kick in and I would be out of there! (An aside... Jason
and Carly remind me of Scotty/Lucy, the early years, in how they relate to
each other. I have my fingers crossed, but can't reconcile the mob
business.)
None of this is meant to criticize the writers in this storyline. I like
the present writing as it leaves so much material to work with. I LOVE the
twists that the story has taken! I love how many people are affected by
all this and I really, really loved Luke's reaction in the hospital when he
was looking in on Carly. He cares and we know it. I wanted him to blurt
out the whole relationship to the Q clan (aren't they going to be
surprised!) but settled for his wishes for a happy new year to the whole
blood-sucking Quartermaine family! Dealing with Jason as his nephew's
supposed father also tightens that relationship for the time being, only
Jason knows that it is all fiction.
This is easily the most interesting storyline to come out of GH in a long
while for me. Theoretically, it should be hard for the writers to blow it.
I wouldn't put it past them, however.
Mary Lu
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