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From: Kinetic Kid <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) To Mayra ....
Date: 01 Apr 1999 13:52:33 -0800 (PST)



Sorry to use the list for this!!

Mayra if you get my message , please contact me !!!
I have your CD's but i need your address!
I lost your ICQ and your email address.

Send me a message as soon as you read this message!

Kinetic Kid

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (police) Curved Air Live
Date: 02 Apr 1999 10:05:09 +0200


There's a live CD of Curved Air released in 1998 on Strange Fruit (Virgin)
with Stewart and it's not a bootleg.
The title is "On Air" and the tracks are :
                                               1 Vivaldi
                                               2 Propositions
                                               3 It happened today
                                               4 Young mother in style
                                               5 Situations
                                               6 Blind man
                                               7 Thinking on the floor
                                               8 Stretch
                                               9 Star naked
                                               10 Woman on a one night
stand
                                               11 Midnight wire
                                               12 Hot'n'bothered
                                               13 The fool

Stew plays on tracks 9 to 13. This concert has been recorded at the Paris
Theater, London 29/01/76.
The other tracks were recorded in 1970 and 1971. The price is 94 FF that is
 around 16 US$.
It's good, Steward's got a double-bass drums and also plays some blues.
Funny.

Vincent





"Jim Orme" <[e-mail]> on 29/03/99 22.57.04

Please respond to "Jim Orme" <[e-mail]>

cc:   [e-mail] (bcc: Vincent CADORET/FR/Dalet)




>BTW, did you ever hear him playing with a double-bass drums ? I read in an
>interview
>that he did with "Curved Air" for a few months and that it changed a lot
>his way of playing.
>I have a live record of Curved Air and I think he plays with a double-bass
>drums
>but it's not very present.

   By "live record" I assume you are saying that this is not a bootleg?
Because the Curved Air album Live(their only live album)does not have
Stewart on it,as he was not a member at that time.
    If this is a bootleg,could you tell me what year it is,track list,etc.?
I don't have any live Curved Air material and would be interested in
getting
one with Stewart on it.

sincerely,
    obsessed Police fan


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (police) Curved Air Live
Date: 02 Apr 1999 10:05:09 +0200


There's a live CD of Curved Air released in 1998 on Strange Fruit (Virgin)
with Stewart and it's not a bootleg.
The title is "On Air" and the tracks are :
                                               1 Vivaldi
                                               2 Propositions
                                               3 It happened today
                                               4 Young mother in style
                                               5 Situations
                                               6 Blind man
                                               7 Thinking on the floor
                                               8 Stretch
                                               9 Star naked
                                               10 Woman on a one night
stand
                                               11 Midnight wire
                                               12 Hot'n'bothered
                                               13 The fool

Stew plays on tracks 9 to 13. This concert has been recorded at the Paris
Theater, London 29/01/76.
The other tracks were recorded in 1970 and 1971. The price is 94 FF that is
 around 16 US$.
It's good, Steward's got a double-bass drums and also plays some blues.
Funny.

Vincent





"Jim Orme" <[e-mail]> on 29/03/99 22.57.04

Please respond to "Jim Orme" <[e-mail]>

cc:   [e-mail] (bcc: Vincent CADORET/FR/Dalet)




>BTW, did you ever hear him playing with a double-bass drums ? I read in an
>interview
>that he did with "Curved Air" for a few months and that it changed a lot
>his way of playing.
>I have a live record of Curved Air and I think he plays with a double-bass
>drums
>but it's not very present.

   By "live record" I assume you are saying that this is not a bootleg?
Because the Curved Air album Live(their only live album)does not have
Stewart on it,as he was not a member at that time.
    If this is a bootleg,could you tell me what year it is,track list,etc.?
I don't have any live Curved Air material and would be interested in
getting
one with Stewart on it.

sincerely,
    obsessed Police fan


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From: "Karel Van Isacker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Another Pyramid on VQF
Date: 02 Apr 1999 17:55:27 +0200

Hello Folks,

the brand new song "Another Pyramid" from Aida is now available in
VQF-format.  The song can be downloaded at my site
(http://users.skynet.be/sky82115/bootlegs).
For download go to the link "VQF" which will bring you to a page where you
can download the song (+ the required software to play it -also on Winamp
players-).
When using Netscape, you might have problems, they should hold down shift
when they click the link.  With Microsoft Internet Explorer: NO problems.

If you have any requests, feel free to send them to me!

Cheers and enjoy it!
Karel
http://users.skynet.be/sky82115/bootlegs


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From: "Darren Gray" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) As The Crow Flies (UK TV)
Date: 02 Apr 1999 16:04:29 -0000

Hi All,

For those of you able to receive UK TV BBC 2, Janet Street-Porter meets
Sting on her travels in "As The Crow Flies" tonight at 8.00 pm. He'll only
be on for a few minutes, no doubt, but it might be worth a look. She meets
him at Hadrian's Wall, apparently...

Darren



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From: Dave & Wendy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) As The Crow Flies (UK TV)
Date: 02 Apr 1999 21:00:52 +0100

At 16:04 02/04/99 +0000, Darren wrote:

>For those of you able to receive UK TV BBC 2, Janet Street-Porter meets
>Sting on her travels in "As The Crow Flies" tonight at 8.00 pm. He'll only
>be on for a few minutes, no doubt, but it might be worth a look. She meets
>him at Hadrian's Wall, apparently...

Thanks for the tip-off Darren. Looks like this was filmed last August - you
could tell by the glorious weather we get up here at that time of year ;-)
Nice to see him on the wall, and it gave him chance to dig out the old
"Italian food" gag again...

Cheers
Dave & Wendy
Stingchronicity <http://www.stingchronicity.co.uk/>

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From: "martin.vauchel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) new MP3 to download
Date: 03 Apr 1999 22:28:12 +0200

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hello,

Ther's two new mp3 to download at "the hounds of winter"
Another Pyramid
Ooh lala Hugh
Follow the "download" link
Cheers
_________________________________________________
[e-mail]
The Hounds Of Winter: http://members.xoom.com/thehounds

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (police) thank you...
Date: 03 Apr 1999 18:50:03 EST

...to the 'hounds of winter' site for the mp3 of Another Pyramid...now please
stick it in the canister with All For Love and bury it for the next 2000
years so we dont have to hear that garbage again!

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From: "Andr3Lapa" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) madrid
Date: 04 Apr 1999 04:42:42 +0100

Hello all,

I was wondering if anyone could tell me about bootleg music stores in
Madrid, since I'm flying there this Monday...

Thanks in advance,
Andre' Lapa


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From: lorena cebulec <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Lock, Stock... in Bs As
Date: 04 Apr 1999 14:15:26 -0300

Hi friends!

I was reading one of the most popular newspapers in Argentina called Clarin
and I saw the ad of "Juegos, Trampas y Dos Armas Humeantes" ("Lock,
Stock..."). The film will be released in Bs As next Thursday and it's been
announced with the best critics from the US papers.
So we, the ones from the South, will also have the chance to see this movie
at the cinema. I'm really looking forward to that moment.
Bye for now.
Lorena.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hope that someone gets my
message in a bottle.....
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx




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From: Jason Startt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) As The Crow Flies (UK TV)
Date: 04 Apr 1999 19:10:00 -0400

For those of us who don't have the pleasure of the BBC, what's the old
"Italian Food" gag?

thanks!!

-Jason



At 09:00 PM 4/2/99 +0100, you wrote:
>At 16:04 02/04/99 +0000, Darren wrote:
>
>>For those of you able to receive UK TV BBC 2, Janet Street-Porter meets
>>Sting on her travels in "As The Crow Flies" tonight at 8.00 pm. He'll only
>>be on for a few minutes, no doubt, but it might be worth a look. She meets
>>him at Hadrian's Wall, apparently...
>
>Thanks for the tip-off Darren. Looks like this was filmed last August - you
>could tell by the glorious weather we get up here at that time of year ;-)
>Nice to see him on the wall, and it gave him chance to dig out the old
>"Italian food" gag again...
>
>Cheers
>Dave & Wendy
>Stingchronicity <http://www.stingchronicity.co.uk/>
>
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From: "Karel Van Isacker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Karel will be offline
Date: 05 Apr 1999 20:37:53 +0200

Hello,

due to serious health problems, Karel Van Isacker will be offline the
following week(s).  All swaps and trades that already had been set up, will
be dealt with asap.

For more questions, feel free to email at [e-mail] .
Regards,
Karel


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From: Malav Trivedi <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Karel will be offline
Date: 05 Apr 1999 14:52:30 -0400 (EDT)


Karel,

I'm sorry about what's going on with you. I wish you a wonderful, quick
recovery and I know that you'll be posting messages on the mailing list in
no time. Take care of yourself and I hope everything is OK.

Feel Better, Malav :)

On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Karel Van Isacker wrote:

> Hello,
>
> due to serious health problems, Karel Van Isacker will be offline the
> following week(s).  All swaps and trades that already had been set up, will
> be dealt with asap.
>
> For more questions, feel free to email at [e-mail] .
> Regards,
> Karel
>
>
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From: "Gray, James" <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: (police) Karel will be offline
Date: 05 Apr 1999 14:03:32 -0500

Hi Karel,

I am sorry to here that.  While you are away, I will certainly miss
everything you bring to this forum.  I wish you well in what ever
comes your way.

James

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    Karel Van Isacker [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    Monday, April 05, 1999 1:38 PM
> To:    Police
> Subject:    (police) Karel will be offline
>
> Hello,
>
> due to serious health problems, Karel Van Isacker will be offline the
> following week(s).  All swaps and trades that already had been set up,
> will
> be dealt with asap.
>
> For more questions, feel free to email at [e-mail] .
> Regards,
> Karel
>
>
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From: "terrence sheehan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Karel will be offline
Date: 05 Apr 1999 16:33:39 -0400


----------
>From: "Karel Van Isacker" <[e-mail]>
>To: "Police" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: (police) Karel will be offline
>Date: Mon, Apr 5, 1999, 2:37 PM
>

>Karel,
>
>Hope everything is ok, it was just a couple of days ago we were e-mailing,
>I took this as quite a shock, I had no idea of your illness. Anyway, I will
>keep you in my prayers and Pray for a speedy return.
>
>Best Wishes and speedy recovery,
>Terry

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From: "terrence sheehan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Where's Karel & Whats Wrong
Date: 05 Apr 1999 16:40:29 -0400

Hello All,

Can anyone please tell me what has happened to Karel, we have been e-mailing
for months and only a few days ago we were in contact. I would like to write
him a get well letter to his hospital or wherever he is. He has been a best
friend (online) since I have started on the e-mail list and I am very
concerned. I would appreciate any information someone could give. I just
finished remastering 8 shows for him and I believe they could cheer him up.
Thank You!

God Bless,
Terrence Sheehan

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From: lorena cebulec <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Sharon Stone's Gloria
Date: 05 Apr 1999 19:57:16 -0300

Hi friends!

Yes, I'm writing again! Well, this time is because I was watching E!
Entertainment Channel today and I saw a Movie Flash of Sharon Stone's film
called Gloria. The song in the background was Every Little Thing She
Does..., but sang by a woman.
Does anybody know about it?
Bye for now.
Lorena.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hope that someone gets my
message in a bottle.....
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx




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From: Thom & Holly Mollo <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) WAY off-topic for American members who drive
Date: 05 Apr 1999 21:32:15 -0400

Got this from my daughter and it sounds like a plan...

>>>> It's time we did something about the price of gasoline in America!
>>We are
>>>> all sick and tired of high prices when there are literally millions
>>of
>>>> gallons in storage.
>>>> >> >
>>>> Know what I found out?  If there was just ONE day when no one
>>purchased any
>>>> gasoline, prices would drop drastically.  The so-called oil cartel
>>has
>>>> decided to slow production by some 2 million barrels per day to drive
>>up
>>>> the price.  I have decided to see how many Americans we can get to
>>NOT BUY
>>>> ANY GASOLINE on one particular day!
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >Let's have a GAS OUT!  Do not buy any gasoline on APRIL 30,
>>1999!!!!!
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >Buy on Thursday before, or Saturday after.  Do not buy any
>>gasoline on
>>>> >> >FRIDAY, APRIL 30, 1999.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >Wanna help?  Send this message to everyone you know.  Ask them to
>>do
>>>> >> >the same.  All we need is a few million to participate in order
>>to
>>>> >> >make a difference.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >We CAN make a difference.
>>>>

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From: Leslie Ordal <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Sharon Stone's Gloria
Date: 05 Apr 1999 19:35:03 -0700 (PDT)

>Hi friends!
>
>Yes, I'm writing again! Well, this time is because I was watching E!
>Entertainment Channel today and I saw a Movie Flash of Sharon Stone's film
>called Gloria. The song in the background was Every Little Thing She
>Does..., but sang by a woman.
>Does anybody know about it?
>Bye for now.
>Lorena.

Haven't seen the film, but my guess would be Shawn Colvin.  She covers
Every Little Thing... on her album 'Cover Girl.'

Leslie
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From: mlane <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Sharon Stone's Gloria
Date: 05 Apr 1999 21:35:34 -0500

At 07:57 PM 4/5/99 -0300, you wrote:
>Well, this time is because I was watching E!
>Entertainment Channel today and I saw a Movie Flash of Sharon Stone's film
>called Gloria. The song in the background was Every Little Thing She
>Does..., but sang by a woman.
>Does anybody know about it?
>





 I was wondering the same exact thing...I had seen a preview of this
movie....and I could not figure who was singing it...if anybody knows who it
is...please tell us! =)


                                                 ~Mollie~
                                                 ~Syn^Chronicity_II~
~It may seem a million miles away
but it gets a little closer everyday~


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From: Holly Murdock <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) SOTW: "Message in a Bottle"
Date: 05 Apr 1999 23:29:30 -0600

The Song of the Week is "Message in Bottle" from REGGATTA DE BLANC.

"The second verse is more about a psychological reality of those wounded
in love, an existential lonliness if you like."
     -Sting, VH1 Storytellers, 1996

"Message In A Bottle"

Just a castaway
An island lost at sea
Another lonely day
With no one here but me
More loneliness
Than any man could bear
Rescue me before I fall into despair

I'll send an SOS to the world
I'll send an SOS to the world
I hope that someone gets my
I hope that someone gets my
I hope that someone gets my
Message in a bottle
[Message in a bottle]

A year has passed since I wrote my note
But I should have known this right from the start
Only hope can keep me together
Love can mend your life
But love can break your heart

I'll send an SOS to the world
I'll send an SOS to the world
I hope that someone gets my
I hope that someone gets my
I hope that someone gets my
Message in a bottle
[Message in a bottle
 Oh, message in a bottle
 Message in a bottle]

Walked out this morning
Don't believe what I saw
A hundred billion bottles
Washed up on the shore
Seems I'm not alone at being alone
A hundred billion casatways
Looking for a home

I'll send an SOS to the world
I'll send an SOS to the world
I hope that someone gets my
I hope that someone gets my
I hope that someone gets my
Message in a bottle
[Message in a bottle
 Message in a bottle
 Message in a bottle]

Sending out an SOS...
(repeat and fade)

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From: lorena cebulec <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Lock, Stock... in Bs As
Date: 04 Apr 1999 14:15:26 -0300

Hi friends!

I was reading one of the most popular newspapers in Argentina called Clarin
and I saw the ad of "Juegos, Trampas y Dos Armas Humeantes" ("Lock,
Stock..."). The film will be released in Bs As next Thursday and it's been
announced with the best critics from the US papers.
So we, the ones from the South, will also have the chance to see this movie
at the cinema. I'm really looking forward to that moment.
Bye for now.
Lorena.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hope that someone gets my
message in a bottle.....
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx




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From: "Mongold,Michael" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Snipit on MSNBC website
Date: 05 Apr 1999 16:43:25 -0500

I found this while perusing MSNBC's website

Sting debates music, acting
LOS ANGELES - In the debate over whether Sting is a musician or an actor,
Sting has no doubt it's music first. Sting says he's a "natural musician"
and acting is something he got into by accident. He says he gets more
pleasure from music than
anything. As to whether he sings better than he acts, he says he just does
what he does and it's up to someone else to decide whether he's any good at
it.
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From: "Ross Viner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: "Message in a Bottle"
Date: 06 Apr 1999 00:34:18 -0700

Never heard of it.


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From: Alex Taylor <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (police) SOTW: "Message in a Bottle"
Date: 06 Apr 1999 18:30:12 +1000

There is one reason why I started listening to the police, and this song is
it.  There is something about the lyrics, the minimal off-notes by Andy
during the chorus, the high hat and the singing....  All very minimalist,
from the words right down to the bassline.  Something very angry and very
sad all at once.

Police at their very best.

They played the local Uni bar when I would have been about 7 years old  and
they opened with Roxanne and ended with this.  One of my father's friends
saw it and said it was the best concert he's ever been to.  And just to top
it off, for all you Aussie Crawl fans out there, they were the support
act.....

Cheers to the world from Oz.

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> Reply To:     Holly Murdock
> Sent:     Tuesday, 6 April 1999 3:29 PM
> To:     Police Internet Mailing List
> Subject:     (police) SOTW: "Message in a Bottle"
>
> The Song of the Week is "Message in Bottle" from REGGATTA DE BLANC.
>
> "The second verse is more about a psychological reality of those wounded
> in love, an existential lonliness if you like."
>      -Sting, VH1 Storytellers, 1996
>
> "Message In A Bottle"
>
> Just a castaway
> An island lost at sea
> Another lonely day
> With no one here but me
> More loneliness
> Than any man could bear
> Rescue me before I fall into despair
>
> I'll send an SOS to the world
> I'll send an SOS to the world
> I hope that someone gets my
> I hope that someone gets my
> I hope that someone gets my
> Message in a bottle
> [Message in a bottle]
>
> A year has passed since I wrote my note
> But I should have known this right from the start
> Only hope can keep me together
> Love can mend your life
> But love can break your heart
>
> I'll send an SOS to the world
> I'll send an SOS to the world
> I hope that someone gets my
> I hope that someone gets my
> I hope that someone gets my
> Message in a bottle
> [Message in a bottle
>  Oh, message in a bottle
>  Message in a bottle]
>
> Walked out this morning
> Don't believe what I saw
> A hundred billion bottles
> Washed up on the shore
> Seems I'm not alone at being alone
> A hundred billion casatways
> Looking for a home
>
> I'll send an SOS to the world
> I'll send an SOS to the world
> I hope that someone gets my
> I hope that someone gets my
> I hope that someone gets my
> Message in a bottle
> [Message in a bottle
>  Message in a bottle
>  Message in a bottle]
>
> Sending out an SOS...
> (repeat and fade)
>
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From: "M. van Santen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: "Message in a Bottle"
Date: 06 Apr 1999 13:47:02 +0200

Hi All,

The lyric of this song is a very short story, I like that
Sting uses a recognizable idea for this song

Hearing the song I see this guy on this lonely island
(like in many stories)

Then he finds out:
> Seems I'm not alone at being alone
This really is a great comfort for him

The last line still is a topical subject
> A hundred billion casatways
> Looking for a home

I like this song being one of the best Police-songs
and 'live' it's always a great tune for a sing-a-long.

my 2 E-cents
magda


Holly Murdock wrote:
> The Song of the Week is "Message in Bottle" from REGGATTA DE BLANC.


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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Sharon Stone's Gloria
Date: 06 Apr 1999 07:58:28 -0500

>>Entertainment Channel today and I saw a Movie Flash of Sharon Stone's film
>>called Gloria. The song in the background was Every Little Thing She
>>Does..., but sang by a woman.
>>Does anybody know about it?
>
> I was wondering the same exact thing...I had seen a preview of this
>movie....and I could not figure who was singing it...if anybody knows who it
>is...please tell us! =)

I agree with Leslie Ordal.  I haven't seen the movie, but if it was a
wistful, breathy, acoustic version of the song, then it would be Shawn Colvin.
_________________
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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: "Message in a Bottle"
Date: 06 Apr 1999 08:00:28 -0500

>"The second verse is more about a psychological reality of those wounded
>in love, an existential lonliness if you like."
>     -Sting, VH1 Storytellers, 1996
>A year has passed since I wrote my note
>But I should have known this right from the start
>Only hope can keep me together
>Love can mend your life
>But love can break your heart

I swear, maybe this song isn't on the soundtrack for the movie of the same
name, but (a) it should be and (b) I'd be willing to bet that the influence
of this song is why the author called his book "Message in a Bottle."
_________________
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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Lock, Stock... in Bs As
Date: 06 Apr 1999 08:02:39 -0500


>and I saw the ad of "Juegos, Trampas y Dos Armas Humeantes" ("Lock,
>Stock..."). The film will be released in Bs As next Thursday and it's been

This is not an exact translation, is it?  "Juegos" = games, and "Dos Armas
Humeantes" literally means "two smoking arms (weapons)", (I think, please
correct me if I'm wrong!) so what *exactly* are "trampas"?
_________________
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (police) The Living Sea
Date: 07 Apr 1999 09:46:11 +1000

I just thought I would mention that I saw the IMAX movie The Living Sea,
which has music by Sting.  The photography was beautiful and of course the
music was great.  So if any one was thinking of seeing it I definitely
recommend it....

Lara



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From: [e-mail] (track)
Subject: (police) SOTW- Message
Date: 07 Apr 1999 10:30:34 +1000

For 3yrs I drove my parents and sibblings mad playing message in a bottle
every morning before school- the national anthem of the new world order of
positivism minimalistic modern music sensabilities . Some years later my
sister rented the flat next door only to be horrified that the candle
hadn't gone out.

Originally a friend an I bought Regatta after being reasonably seduced by
outlandos. We sat and listened to every track only to decide that at least
the album had two good songs - Message and Walking. We later realised the
error of our ways as our musical palletes developed and accustomised to the
new sounds of THE POLICE. What a concept. In my opinion Police far
surpassed any of its predeccessors  - beatles etc. But back to song of the
week.

Love this song. Its the quintessential Police. Its when all three became
one or found their way to show off themselves without deminishing the
others. Its always resonated with me personally.The "cod" jamaican accent
everything - It sounded so exotic not knowing much of reggae at that
time...  .  Andy said the song was one of the most exciting he'd played on.


Its a masterpeice of Stings writing. He seems to describes it
retrospectively as clumbsy in its welding of reggae - rock which later he
described his writing as becoming more seemless eg Don't stand.
Nevertheless I think he also knows that its one of the most profound songs
he's ever written and one of the most amazing recordings / performances/
interpretations/ contributions by other musicians- Andy & Stewart. I think
in that sense its like a childs painting - more brilliant than Picasso and
completely fresh. Its super!!!! ANd it changed my life as I now try and
write songs and record. Its amazing that a song can have such an effect on
ones life on all of our lives. A change of consciousness!!!

My tit bit about it is that on the last line sting sings " sending out an
S.O.Blue" which commes from an old add for "ESSO blue" petroleum I guess.

What I found interesting the other day when I read through the lyrics was
the irregularity of the metre. The song is so structured 8 repeats of the
four chords to make a full verse but the words vary in syllable nos. This
makes different rhythms and inturn melody. I haven't got the song handy so
I can't check but i started writing down syllable nos. to see what they
are.Probably noones interseted in this but I was from a writing point of
view.

It must also be the first hit song ever that uses chords with stacked
fifths as opposed to standard triads.

Sending out an SOS

David OSTINGA


Metre

Just a castaway                                         (5)
An island lost at sea-o                                 (7)
Another lonely day                                      (5)
With no one here but me-o                               (7)
More loneliness                                         (4)
Than any man could bear-ear                             (7)
Rescue me before I fall into despair-o                  (7)

I'll send an SOS to the world
I'll send an SOS to the world
I hope that someone gets my
I hope that someone gets my
I hope that someone gets my
Message in a bottle
[Message in a bottle]

A year has passed since I wrote my note                  (8)
I should have known this right from the start            (8)
Only hope can keep me together                           (9)
Love can mend your life                                  (5)

But love can break your heart-eart                       (7)

I'll send an SOS to the world
I'll send an SOS to the world
I hope that someone gets my
I hope that someone gets my
I hope that someone gets my
Message in a bottle
[Message in a bottle
 Oh, message in a bottle
 Message in a bottle]

Walked out this morning                                  (5)
Don't believe what I saw                                 (6)
A hundred billion bottles                                (7)
Washed up on the shore                                   (6)
Seems I'm not alone at being alone                       (9)
A hundred billion casatways                              (6)
Looking for a home                                       (5)



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From: Benjamin VINCENT <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) "It's probably me" theater version
Date: 07 Apr 1999 04:03:29 +0200

Hello everyone,

=46irst, I'd like to send very dear thoughts to all those who sent a welcome
message after my daughter Louise's birth. Sorry, I didn't have time to
thank each of you in private. I mean it.

I was just watching "Lethal Weapon 3" on DVD. Some of you probably noticed
that there is a whole different "It's probably me" mix with violins and
flames sounds. Unfortunately, the song is not complete. It's cut after the
first chorus.

I have two questions :

- Is the version on the original soundtrack CD exactly the one I heard on
the DVD ? Or is it the same as on Sting's album ? I have the 2 and 3-song
"It's probably me" CD, but I can't find that version.

- Does anyone have the full version of the movie mix ? Is it available on a
promo CD ? If yes, please, get in touch with me in private.

I am also looking for a MP3 file of the originally not broadcasted "If I
ever lose my faith" VH-1 Storytellers version (stereo version). Give me a
sign as well...

A million thanks, from Paris !


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From: "Rogier v.d. Gugten" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Andy in Italy and the UK
Date: 07 Apr 1999 00:02:01 +0200

Hi there,

According to the news section on Andy's page, he'll be performing in Italy and the UK in May!
No further details yet!

Take care,
   Rogier.

Rogier's Police Page: http://www.police.cybercomm.nl/
e-mail: [e-mail]

Rogier van der Gugten
Nieuwegracht 39a
3512 LD Utrecht
HOLLAND


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From: Holly Murdock <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Sharon Stone's Gloria
Date: 06 Apr 1999 23:10:49 -0600

Kimberly said:

>I agree with Leslie Ordal.  I haven't seen the movie, but if it was a
>wistful, breathy, acoustic version of the song, then it would be Shawn
>Colvin.

I've seen the commercial a few times, and being a fan of Ms. Colvin's, I
can confirm that it is indeed her "Every Little Thing [He] Does Is Magic"
that is being used.  But I find the fact that they used a female cover
and edited it to fit a woman singing about a little boy to be a bit
creepy for some reason.

Holly

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From: "terrence sheehan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Cover Song's right or wrong
Date: 07 Apr 1999 03:08:15 -0400

My e-mail mates,

In a perfect world a song would be off limits to other musicians and that
would be that! But let's face it we don't live in a perfect world and other
artists cover other artists. I have a band of my own and I suppose we may
remake a few police tunes, and they will be compensated justly if we do a
good job. That's why we have a.s.c.a.p. and b.m.i. artist agencies, so the
artists don't get ripped off, what are we supposed to do as artist's pretend
these works have'nt influenced us. I would hope the musicians would be
honored that we covered their material when they cashed their royalty checks
for our remakes. So I hope I do a good job and you all like the remakes, I
know how hard it will be to get an approval, the Police are Man God's!!!,
what else can I say!! But I hope they are flattered or I should have written
my own song instead.

Good nite,
Terrence (Energy & Sophistication)


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (police) IMAX - "The Living Sea"
Date: 07 Apr 1999 08:29:47 EDT

Where did you see this movie?  I have the CD and love it (great to play at
work), but have always wondered where the movie plays.  Thanks!

Michelle

>I just thought I would mention that I saw the IMAX movie The Living Sea,
>which has music by Sting.  The photography was beautiful and of course the
>music was great.  So if any one was thinking of seeing it I definitely
>recommend it....

>Lara

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From: David Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Midi Files
Date: 07 Apr 1999 15:12:58 +0100

Guys,

I've just been having a bit of fun listening to Denis Roy's midi files of
Sting songs. He seems to have made a pretty good job of some of these tunes.
Englishman In New York is excellent. Check them out for yourselves if you
haven't already done so....

http://members.xoom.com/denisroy/music.html#sting

Cheers

Dave


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From: Mat Planet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) SOTW: Message in a Bottle
Date: 07 Apr 1999 11:38:45 -0400

What can you say about this one?

>From: Alex Taylor <[e-mail]>
>Police at their very best.

Yeah, that sounds good.

>From: [e-mail] (track) [David OSTINGA]
>Love this song. Its the quintessential Police.

Yup, that's about it.

-MatPlanet

P.S. - The Drummer Thing:
Let me tell ya, Stewart's performance on record is unbelievable. It's
funny and sad to watch drummers in cover bands try to imitate it. I like
to play it how Stew played it live. Towards the end, like Synch. tour,
he really had it full and fun. That's what I like to do. But to all the
young aspiring drummers out there - do NOT try to imitate Stewart's
playing from Regatta de Blanc: you'll just embarass yourself.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: Message in a Bottle
Date: 07 Apr 1999 17:54:17 +0200


True, simply true. It's impossible to imitate the Reggatta de Blanc
drumming of message in a bottle. It seems also that Stew himself
did not try to reproduce it in concert, since the drumming  of all the the
live versions
I known (and I heard a lot of it) are quite different.

It's the favorite recording of Stewart together with murder by numbers,
he said in some interviews. (Regarding a single song, concerning
the LP it's Ghost in the Machine).

All the "covers"  ( (-:  'cause to me it's really a Police song) of Sting I
heard
were disappointed regarding the drums, even with Vinnie  Colaiuta.
I only like the accoustic version of the Nothing like the sun tour and
the accoustic solo version (guitar + voice) on the Amnesty International
LP "I shall be released".

Vincent






Mat Planet <[e-mail]> on 07/04/99 17.38.45

Please respond to Mat Planet <[e-mail]>

cc:    (bcc: Vincent CADORET/FR/Dalet)




What can you say about this one?

>From: Alex Taylor <[e-mail]>
>Police at their very best.

Yeah, that sounds good.

>From: [e-mail] (track) [David OSTINGA]
>Love this song. Its the quintessential Police.

Yup, that's about it.

-MatPlanet

P.S. - The Drummer Thing:
Let me tell ya, Stewart's performance on record is unbelievable. It's
funny and sad to watch drummers in cover bands try to imitate it. I like
to play it how Stew played it live. Towards the end, like Synch. tour,
he really had it full and fun. That's what I like to do. But to all the
young aspiring drummers out there - do NOT try to imitate Stewart's
playing from Regatta de Blanc: you'll just embarass yourself.



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From: David Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (police) SOTW: Message in a Bottle
Date: 07 Apr 1999 17:09:28 +0100

I agree about the Sting versions of this being a dissapointment - not the
same energy at all. Acoustic he does it well, but still doesn't have the
same effect on me. However, I wouldn't say all 'cover' versions were bad - I
heard Andy Summers play it with a three piece band on his last tour at it
was fantastic.

Cheers

Dave

P.S. I always thought the studio version had several drum tracks on it and
that was why Stewart never recreated it live.



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> Reply To:     [e-mail]
> Sent:     07 April 1999 16:54
> To:     Mat Planet
> Cc:     [e-mail]
> Subject:     Re: (police) SOTW: Message in a Bottle
>
>
> True, simply true. It's impossible to imitate the Reggatta de Blanc
> drumming of message in a bottle. It seems also that Stew himself
> did not try to reproduce it in concert, since the drumming  of all the the
> live versions
> I known (and I heard a lot of it) are quite different.
>
> It's the favorite recording of Stewart together with murder by numbers,
> he said in some interviews. (Regarding a single song, concerning
> the LP it's Ghost in the Machine).
>
> All the "covers"  ( (-:  'cause to me it's really a Police song) of Sting
> I
> heard
> were disappointed regarding the drums, even with Vinnie  Colaiuta.
> I only like the accoustic version of the Nothing like the sun tour and
> the accoustic solo version (guitar + voice) on the Amnesty International
> LP "I shall be released".
>
> Vincent
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mat Planet <[e-mail]> on 07/04/99 17.38.45
>
> Please respond to Mat Planet <[e-mail]>
>
> To:   "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
> cc:    (bcc: Vincent CADORET/FR/Dalet)
> Subject:  (police) SOTW: Message in a Bottle
>
>
>
>
> What can you say about this one?
>
> >From: Alex Taylor <[e-mail]>
> >Police at their very best.
>
> Yeah, that sounds good.
>
> >From: [e-mail] (track) [David OSTINGA]
> >Love this song. Its the quintessential Police.
>
> Yup, that's about it.
>
> -MatPlanet
>
> P.S. - The Drummer Thing:
> Let me tell ya, Stewart's performance on record is unbelievable. It's
> funny and sad to watch drummers in cover bands try to imitate it. I like
> to play it how Stew played it live. Towards the end, like Synch. tour,
> he really had it full and fun. That's what I like to do. But to all the
> young aspiring drummers out there - do NOT try to imitate Stewart's
> playing from Regatta de Blanc: you'll just embarass yourself.
>
>
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From: "Hilary L. Justh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Signed Lyrics for Fields Of Gold
Date: 07 Apr 1999 10:13:24 -0600 (MDT)

Hello,

In case you were wondering...This sold for 2,200 pounds, while the lyrics
of All For Love also signed by Sting (with signatures from Bryan Adams,
Rod Stewart, Michael Kamen and Mutt Lange) only sold for 650 pounds.  At
least the bidders have some sense of taste!

Hilary


On Mon, 22 Mar 1999, Dave & Wendy wrote:

> On auction at Sotheby's today
>=20
> http://www.icollector.com/live/sothebys.htm
>=20
> Sting
> `Fields Of Gold'
> In black ink on one page of recycled paper, signed.
> Lot number: 32
> Estimated value: =A3600-=A3800
>=20
> for Nordoff Robins.
>=20
> Cheers
> Wendy & Dave
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From: Betheny Gamache <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) IMAX - "The Living Sea"
Date: 07 Apr 1999 12:36:14 -0400 (EDT)

Dear Michelle,

The Living Sea can only be see at the Museum of Science and Idustry's
(a.k.a. MOSI) IMAX theater.  There is more than one MOSI in the country
wiht IMAX theaters.  However, the only one I know about personally is in
Tampa, FL, six blocks from my university.  I believe there is also one is
Chicago and another in Philidelphia but I'm not sure.  I do believe there
is a web site however.

Wish I could be more helpful.

-Betheny


On Wed, 7 Apr 1999 [e-mail] wrote:

> Where did you see this movie?  I have the CD and love it (great to play at
> work), but have always wondered where the movie plays.  Thanks!
>
> Michelle
>
> >I just thought I would mention that I saw the IMAX movie The Living Sea,
> >which has music by Sting.  The photography was beautiful and of course the
> >music was great.  So if any one was thinking of seeing it I definitely
> >recommend it....
>
> >Lara
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From: "Lithium Sunset" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Dutchs & Belgians only - Stranglers Wood
Date: 07 Apr 1999 19:33:19 +0200

Voor iedereen die vanavond niet naar het voetballen wil kijken, maar wil
zien hoe Trudie Styler (Sting's vrouw) verzeild raakt in een moordcomplot,
raad ik aan om 21.06 uur te kijken naar Nederland 1 "Midsomer Murders".

Groeten,

LS


Translation : tonight 21.06hrs CET Midsomer Murders on Nederland 1 featuring
Trudie Styler


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From: mlane <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) IMAX - "The Living Sea"
Date: 07 Apr 1999 16:00:01 -0500


Hey,I went to the Nauticus Maritime Center in Norfolk,VA and it was playing
there...I'm not sure if it's still playing,though.

                                             Mollie =)



>
>The Living Sea can only be see at the Museum of Science and Idustry's
>(a.k.a. MOSI) IMAX theater.  There is more than one MOSI in the country
>wiht IMAX theaters.  However, the only one I know about personally is in
>Tampa, FL, six blocks from my university.  I believe there is also one is
>Chicago and another in Philidelphia but I'm not sure.  I do believe there
>is a web site however.
>
>Wish I could be more helpful.
>
>-Betheny
>
>
>On Wed, 7 Apr 1999 [e-mail] wrote:
>
>> Where did you see this movie?  I have the CD and love it (great to play at
>> work), but have always wondered where the movie plays.  Thanks!
>>
>> Michelle
>>
>> >I just thought I would mention that I saw the IMAX movie The Living Sea,
>> >which has music by Sting.  The photography was beautiful and of course the
>> >music was great.  So if any one was thinking of seeing it I definitely
>> >recommend it....
>>
>> >Lara
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Subject: Re: (police) IMAX - "The Living Sea"
Date: 07 Apr 1999 17:21:29 EDT

Hi All,

You can purchase "The Living Sea" video over the internet at www.imax.com.  I
think it runs around $30...very pricey but an excellent video.

Chris

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From: "juan galie" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Cocteau Twins
Date: 06 Apr 1999 19:16:27 -0600

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me know, I've met a few people who at some point or another heard of =
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From: "Jim Orme" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW- Message in a Bottle
Date: 07 Apr 1999 18:27:36 -0400

    Phenomenal. There's just no other word for it. "Message in a Bottle"
is,to the best of my knowledge,the greatest song ever created.
    The music is incredibly composed;Sting was apparently at the height of
his creativity at this point. It really proves that Sting was the primary
songwriter for the Police. Excellent lyrics as well;it opens up with typical
selfishness,related in marvelously metaphorical language,and at the end
Sting smacks you in the face and shouts,"Wake up! You're not the most
important thing in the universe!" It's wise,it's unique,it's even humorous.
    This song is also an incredible example of energy and talented playing
in the group. They played fast,they played emotionally,they played
creatively. I agree that Sting's playing this is a cover. Sting didn't craft
"Message in a Bottle" anymore than he crafted all of his biographies. Sting
sketched "Message in a Bottle". The Police painted it.
    "Message in a Bottle" is incredibly vocalized as well. Note how Sting's
voice seems to tighten up in the chorus before relaxing at the end,his voice
flowing over,"message in a bottle,woh..."
    Stewart's drums are incredible,he keeps the beat pumping while spliting
loose with his own exciting rhythms. I really like that aspect of Stewart's
drumming;most drummers just seem to stick with the beat,and they don't make
it as exciting as Stewart does anyway. This is a classic example of this
style.
    Andy's guitar really shines;even before I recognized his songwriting
excellence this proved him to be a invaluable member of the Police. Henri,
Sting and even Stewart never played anything on guitar half as good as this.
    I also must mention the bass-very mood stirring. I love the way it seems
to stimulate the flow and pulse of the ocean.
    For closers,I must again emphasize the need for a reunion. One of
Sting's arguements is that he had reached the top with the Police and could
not better it,only repeat it(in reference to the Synchronicity concert). My
arguement is:
sure,MAYBE they've done the best possible in a concert. But on an album? I
have yet to see an album filled with songs of the same quality as such songs
as "Message in a Bottle","Bring on the Night","Does Everyone Stare" or
"Invisible Sun". I don't think the Police have accomplished all they can.
This song proves that they can do better(hard as it is to imagine).

sincerely,
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (police) IMAX - "The Living Sea"
Date: 08 Apr 1999 08:52:28 +1000

I live in Melbourne, Australia, which is where I saw the movie.  The web
site is :www.imax.com.au.
There are also IMAX cinemas in Sydney, Adelaide and Brisbane.
Lara




[e-mail] on 07/04/99 10:29:47 PM

Please respond to [e-mail]

cc:    (bcc: Lara Robertson/DPC)




Where did you see this movie?  I have the CD and love it (great to play at
work), but have always wondered where the movie plays.  Thanks!

Michelle

>I just thought I would mention that I saw the IMAX movie The Living Sea,
>which has music by Sting.  The photography was beautiful and of course the
>music was great.  So if any one was thinking of seeing it I definitely
>recommend it....

>Lara

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From: [e-mail] (David Ostinga - track)
Subject: (police) SOTW-message ( stewarts drumming live vs Studio)-& a recent "regatta de blanc"
Date: 08 Apr 1999 10:04:26 +1000

In Sydney recently we were treated to a night at the Harbourside brasserie
where a group of Sydney's better known musicians- the likes of Jacky
Orsasky (amazing bassist - did Sting's bass perfectly) did a "Regatta de
Blanc" night.

It was quite incredible as they did every song from the album quite true to
the oriinal versions. I thought of this re: some of the comments about
Stewart's drumming in the studio vs live playing and I have to say that
this guy did a pretty good studio version. It was an amazing night and the
venue- "The Harbourside Brasserie " hopped along like it hadn't done for a
long time. It was good to see that musicians take this album pretty
seriously as a seminal work. I sometimes wonder why there isn't more fuss
about the Police and what they did. Fuck the Beetles and Bob Dylan. I'm so
over that shit. Also it seems the Police fan base is very much alive and
well.

I got quite a shock when I saw the cover of the album plastered on a cafe
wall advertising the gig - as you can imagine. Great photo great
marketting. Cuts through all the other crap!

The other great thing was that you would have had to have been pretty lucky
to see all those songs performed live by the Police so it was the next best
thing. But it showed how amazing it would have been to have discovered them
in some uni pub as described yesterday. The energy of those songs is
rivetting .the taughtness of the 3 (5 people in this case) peice format
shines through more than it did on the big Synchronicity type productions.

Other interesting points were that this band had two guitarists playing and
the singing which changed with different guests was the hardest aspect to
achieve. I tried to get them to let me sing one but no takers.

Has anyone else seen anything like this done elsewhere.

Third world breathes the air tommorrow
We live on the time we borrow

All the best to the list

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From: "Michael Greenberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Let me introduce myself
Date: 07 Apr 1999 22:50:27 +0000

Hi everyone,
My name is Michael Greenberg. I am from San Francisco originally,but I live
in Atlanta. I work for Macromedia (The Shockwave folks) as a Web/Shockwave
Developer. I am also a huge fan of the Macintosh. It plays a big role in my
life and I am a former Apple employee:)

I am not a huge Sting fan but I love the Police. My favorite album is
Message in a Box since it has everything,but my favorite original album is
tough to peg. If you held a gun to my head I would have to say Ghost in the
Machine,but I also listen to Zenyatta Mondatta and Synchronicity quite a bit
and Reggatta DeBlanc and Outlandos D'Amour the least.

My favorite single is a toughie to. Today it is Wrapped Around Your
Finger,but who knows what it will be tommorrow.

Anyway,look forward to getting to know everyone.

Michael

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (police) Sting Publicity Idea
Date: 07 Apr 1999 22:43:17 EDT

My fiancee is on a Def Leppard promotion list and they have been writing to
100s of different music related business (radio stations, music promoters,
music companies, managers, etc.) through email to get Def Leppard's new album
more air time and to get them back in the public eye, their new album comes
out next month.
I was just thinking that this could be a cool idea for us to do for Stings
new album, I already have a list of music contacts and I'm sure I could come
up with a few more.  If anyone out there wants to help me do this or just has
some input on this please let me know.

Thanks guys...
Amy
[e-mail]

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From: "M. van Santen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Trudie Styler
Date: 08 Apr 1999 08:22:08 +0200

Hi all,

The  "Midsomer Murders" series are also running on Dutch TV

Yesterday we had the issue "Stranglers Wood"
in which Stings beloved wife played a character called Liz Francis;
she played very natural, and looked very good.

c ya
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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Another Pyramid and Hugh
Date: 08 Apr 1999 08:18:23 -0400

I was at my local video store last night (Blockbuster) with my
girlfriend and as soon as I walked in the doors, I heard "Another
Pyramid" wafting over the speakers. I immediately turned to my
girlfriend (of over 4 years--and over that span she has heard, often to
her dismay--since she's not much of a Sting or Police fan--practically
every single Sting and Police tune in existence) and asked her, "Who's
that?" (with an innocent expression of pure unknowing).

She listened for a full 5 seconds and replied, shrugging, "Bob Marley?"
She was shocked when I told her who was singing (I was trying to contain
my laughter).

Anyway, Elvis Costello will, no doubt, have a fit when he hears Sting's
fake "Jamaican" enunciation once again.

I imagine "Another Pyramid" would be a hit with most young
kids/children. But the repetitive chorus (and the backing vocals), are
in my opinion, just brutal. Actually, I've had similar complaints
regarding much of Sting's current material; I find everything leading up
to the chorus is pretty decent, but the chorus itself is often dull,
repetitive and jarring. For example, "Something the Boy said", I think,
contains an interesting arrangement, and the lines/music leading up to
the chorus is interesting (reminds me a bit of Fortress). However, the
chorus is repetitive (one line repeated over and over) and not
exceptionally melodic.

Also has anyone noticed that Sting's "sound" has not changed in any
remarkable fashion over the past 2 (even 3) albums or so? Everyone has
mentioned getting rid of certain musicians Sting's carried around with
him, but I really think the problem lies with Hugh Padgam. This guy is a
monument to 80s "pop" sound.

    While he did produce, in part, The Soul Cages (I do not consider
this cd Sting's best--but it does have its merits)--perhaps Sting's most
overwrought work in terms of production, there are elements of that 80s
sound, even on this cd. Dominic's guitar sound on "All This Time"
doesn't differ much from the guitar sound heard on "Invisible Touch".
And frankly, I don't think the production sound (especially
instrumentation) has changed remarkably in the past 2 studio cds.

If Sting's truly interested in progression and is opposed to the status
quo--why not try a different producer, especially one that's not
associated with the early to mid 80s pop music scene? I'm not suggesting
Sting try loop freaks like William Orbit, Flood, or Bjork's boyfriend,
but there are other decent producers besides Hugh Padgam.

I know this email is going to get some backlash, but I don't hear too
many people discussing Hugh (and I would genuinely be interested to read
any comments in favour or opposed to him). I know Hugh had some success
with The Police, Genesis and other artists--but I associate Hugh with
the past (the 80's) and not the present or the future in pop music
(hence, if one were to use Hugh over and over agains, I think one
becomes stuck in a time warp).

Regards,
--
Aaron Cole
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From: Mat Planet <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: Message in a Bottle
Date: 08 Apr 1999 08:42:23 -0400

[e-mail] wrote:

> All the "covers"  ( (-:  'cause to me it's really a Police song) of Sting I
> heard were disappointed regarding the drums, even with Vinnie  Colaiuta.
> I only like the accoustic version of the Nothing like the sun tour and
> the accoustic solo version (guitar + voice) on the Amnesty International
> LP "I shall be released".
>
> Vincent

Oh yeah, that time on "The Secret Policeman's Other Ball" for Amnesty when
Sting just played guitar and sang - oh MAN that was beautiful. MTV used to play
that all the time years ago, so I grew up with that and the Regatta de Balnc
versions of Message in a Bottle. I love them both - for different reasons.

MatPlanet


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From: Mat Planet <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: Message in a Bottle
Date: 08 Apr 1999 08:45:36 -0400

David Murray wrote:

> P.S. I always thought the studio version had several drum tracks on it and
> that was why Stewart never recreated it live.

Bite your tounge!
He never recreated any studio drmming live.
The studio drums on "Message" is possible, but only is your name is Stewart
Copeland.

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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: Message in a Bottle
Date: 08 Apr 1999 08:01:43 -0500

>> P.S. I always thought the studio version had several drum tracks on it and
>> that was why Stewart never recreated it live.
>
>Bite your tounge!
>He never recreated any studio drmming live.
>The studio drums on "Message" is possible, but only is your name is Stewart
>Copeland.

See, all this time I've been naively assuming that the different drumming
was just part of Stewart's genius... *s*  IMHO I can only think of two
other drummers in the whole world who even *begin* to approach his level of
genius.  Stewart seems to have a grasp of rhythm unparalleled in the music
industry.
_________________
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: Message in a Bottle
Date: 08 Apr 1999 14:57:43 +0200


Sometimes he used a delayed echo on the hit hat, like on Walking on the
Moon
(which explains the shuffle or tripplet effect), every little thing she
does,
Darkness or One world I think. I don't think it's the case on "Message".
For example on "every little thing...", Stew said he recorded it
in one shot with this effect.

Don't consider this as a facility. I think it's hard to hear what you're
really
playing, but taking also into account the echo of what you've played
the half-second before...

Vince





Mat Planet <[e-mail]> on 08/04/99 14.45.36

cc:   Vincent CADORET/FR/Dalet, [e-mail]




David Murray wrote:

> P.S. I always thought the studio version had several drum tracks on it
and
> that was why Stewart never recreated it live.

Bite your tounge!
He never recreated any studio drmming live.
The studio drums on "Message" is possible, but only is your name is Stewart
Copeland.

MatPlanet







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From: cHriS <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) SOTW (accoustic)
Date: 08 Apr 1999 08:37:22 -0600


Not sure if anyone's mentioned this version before, but I think my favorite
rendition of MIAB is the solo accoustic performance Sting did in Paris
during the ending credits of that "Bring On The Night" docu-video. I love
the original Police version, but I think that accoustic version really
enhances the loneliness in the lyrics. What a great song!

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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: Message in a Bottle
Date: 08 Apr 1999 11:55:09 -0400

Mat Planet wrote:

> Oh yeah, that time on "The Secret Policeman's Other Ball" for Amnesty when
> Sting just played guitar and sang - oh MAN that was beautiful.

That version and the one at the end of the Bring on the Night Video are my
favourites (both are kind of similar).

Regards,
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From: "M. van Santen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Sabrina
Date: 08 Apr 1999 19:23:17 +0200

Hi all,


For those of you able to receive UK TV BBC 1,

Next Sunday the movie "Sabrina" will be on, at 7.00 PM (20.00 hrs CET)


enjoy

magda


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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Sabrina
Date: 08 Apr 1999 12:31:11 -0500


>For those of you able to receive UK TV BBC 1,
>
>Next Sunday the movie "Sabrina" will be on, at 7.00 PM (20.00 hrs CET)

I assume you mean the remake?  I love that movie.  Julia Ormond is the
prettiest woman there is, IMHO.
_________________
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From: [e-mail] (Auke Hulst)
Subject: Re: (police) Hugh
Date: 08 Apr 1999 21:49:16 +0100


Aaron Cole wrote:

>Also has anyone noticed that Sting's "sound" has not changed in any
>remarkable fashion over the past 2 (even 3) albums or so? Everyone has
>mentioned getting rid of certain musicians Sting's carried around with
>him, but I really think the problem lies with Hugh Padgam. This guy is a
>monument to 80s "pop" sound.
>
>    While he did produce, in part, The Soul Cages (I do not consider
>this cd Sting's best--but it does have its merits)--perhaps Sting's most
>overwrought work in terms of production, there are elements of that 80s
>sound, even on this cd. Dominic's guitar sound on "All This Time"
>doesn't differ much from the guitar sound heard on "Invisible Touch".
>And frankly, I don't think the production sound (especially
>instrumentation) has changed remarkably in the past 2 studio cds.
>
>If Sting's truly interested in progression and is opposed to the status
>quo--why not try a different producer, especially one that's not
>associated with the early to mid 80s pop music scene? I'm not suggesting
>Sting try loop freaks like William Orbit, Flood, or Bjork's boyfriend,
>but there are other decent producers besides Hugh Padgam.

I have to agree with this, although I don't think Hugh Padgam is a very
"dominant" producer. The Sting albums I liked most we're done with Pete
Smith and Neil Dorfsman. On the other hand Padgam was involved in my two
favorite Police albums (Sync & Ghost). Anyhow, on those four early to mid
'80s albums I think the songs we're simply better, or at least more
challenging to work on.

I would like to see Sting taking a radical new direction, though. I think
he has to start an album for once with some very clear productional
decision made in his mind already - and maybe even write the songs with
those decisions in mind. For instance, doing a jazz-album with a
contrabass-piano-drums combo. Or doing a pure 'heavier' guitar album. It
would be interesting to see what would happen if Sting would confine
himself production-wise to a 'vision'. (hate that word). The way he's going
about his work these last couple of years it all sounds obligatory & not
very inspired to me. It has become this lukewarm pop-mash. I think it's not
about the producer then (although another producer might break the rut) but
about daring, and making choices.

On the other hand I must say I'm more worried about the songs themselves,
than anything else. I'd rather hear an inspired song done in a
straightforward way than a uninspired one in a radical way.

Auke



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From: "Chelsea \"The Mind\" Kaloupek" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Sabrina
Date: 08 Apr 1999 16:16:49 -0400 (EDT)

Speaking of Sabrina, which song did Sting do for that movie?  I can't
remember....

Thanks!

Chelsea

> Hi all,
>
>
> For those of you able to receive UK TV BBC 1,
>
> Next Sunday the movie "Sabrina" will be on, at 7.00 PM (20.00 hrs CET)
>
>
> enjoy
>
> magda
>
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From: "Cecilia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Lock, Stock... in Bs As
Date: 07 Apr 1999 13:36:48 -0300

Kimberly wrote:

> >and I saw the ad of "Juegos, Trampas y Dos Armas Humeantes" ("Lock,
> >Stock..."). The film will be released in Bs As next Thursday and it's
been
>
> This is not an exact translation, is it?  "Juegos" = games, and "Dos
Armas
> Humeantes" literally means "two smoking arms (weapons)", (I think, please
> correct me if I'm wrong!) so what *exactly* are "trampas"?

Trampas = traps, cheating

Cheers,

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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) "It's probably me" theater version
Date: 07 Apr 1999 08:04:05 -0500

>I was just watching "Lethal Weapon 3" on DVD. Some of you probably noticed
>that there is a whole different "It's probably me" mix with violins and

>- Is the version on the original soundtrack CD exactly the one I heard on
>the DVD ? Or is it the same as on Sting's album ? I have the 2 and 3-song
>"It's probably me" CD, but I can't find that version.

I'm under the impression that the version on Sting's album was his mix and
the version in the movie was the one he did with Clapton.  (I could be
wrong.)  I prefer the movie mix, myself.  With the scrape of a lighter as a
rhythm point; brilliant foreshadowing of the movie's finale.  I don't know
for a fact but always assumed that it would be the version on the Lethal
Weapon 3 soundtrack.  Anyone else know more?
_________________
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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) "It's probably me" theater version
Date: 07 Apr 1999 08:04:05 -0500

>I was just watching "Lethal Weapon 3" on DVD. Some of you probably noticed
>that there is a whole different "It's probably me" mix with violins and

>- Is the version on the original soundtrack CD exactly the one I heard on
>the DVD ? Or is it the same as on Sting's album ? I have the 2 and 3-song
>"It's probably me" CD, but I can't find that version.

I'm under the impression that the version on Sting's album was his mix and
the version in the movie was the one he did with Clapton.  (I could be
wrong.)  I prefer the movie mix, myself.  With the scrape of a lighter as a
rhythm point; brilliant foreshadowing of the movie's finale.  I don't know
for a fact but always assumed that it would be the version on the Lethal
Weapon 3 soundtrack.  Anyone else know more?
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From: [e-mail] (Carlos Ferro)
Subject: RE: (police) Lock, Stock... in Bs As
Date: 06 Apr 1999 10:17:31 -0300

Hi Kimberly!!!

>This is not an exact translation, is it?  "Juegos" = games, and "Dos Armas
>Humeantes" literally means "two smoking arms (weapons)", (I think, please
>correct me if I'm wrong!) so what *exactly* are "trampas"?


The exact translation is "Games, Traps and Two Smoky Weapons"

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From: Mat Planet <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: Message in a Bottle
Date: 08 Apr 1999 16:51:26 -0400



[e-mail] wrote:

> Sometimes he used a delayed echo on the hit hat, like on Walking on the
> Moon (which explains the shuffle or tripplet effect), every little thing she
> does, Darkness or One world I think. I don't think it's the case on
> "Message".
> For example on "every little thing...", Stew said he recorded it
> in one shot with this effect.

Yeah, and you can sure hear it in use on live versions of "Bed's Too Big w/o
You".
I know in Darkness he actually plays the Hi-hats twice and layers them together
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From: "Maurizio Saccani" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Hug "Fortress" remix
Date: 08 Apr 1999 23:10:02 +0200

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Hi everybody,

breaking an arrow in Hug's favor, I'd like to say that, personally, I =
find the "Fortress Around Your Heart (Hugh Padgham Remix)", which is =
present as a B side of the "When We Dance" CD Single, much more =
enjoyable than the original. In particular I find more "presence" as far =
as the rthytmic section is concerned (Darryl Jones on electric bass, =
Omar Hakim on drums). I'd like to hear some other titles remixed by this =
great producer. Everybody here likes Synchronicity after all, one of his =
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Only my 2 cents.

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From: "M.J. Vlasveld" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Andy on Tour and Rapa Nui on BBC TV
Date: 08 Apr 1999 23:53:20 +0200

Hi All,

Andy Summers wil be touring Europe as Rogier told earlier. You
can find a list of dates on the tour page of the Andy Summers site.
Between 10th and 15th May he will be in Pizza Express in London.
Remember, the Tibetan Peace Garden will be opened at 13th May and i
guess Sting will be there. You you never know what happens more.....

Rapa Nui with music of Stewart Copeland will be on the BBC TV this
weekend.

Markus



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From: "M. van Santen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Sabrina
Date: 09 Apr 1999 00:30:06 +0200

Hi Chelsea

> Speaking of Sabrina, which song did Sting do for that movie?  I can't
> remember....

Moonlight

> >
> > For those of you able to receive UK TV BBC 1,
> > Next Sunday the movie "Sabrina" will be on, at 7.00 PM (20.00 hrs CET)
.
C ya
magda


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (police) pete smith
Date: 08 Apr 1999 18:28:26 EDT

speaking of Pete.......in my less than humble opinion....Dream/Turtles was
the best album evere made by anyone....who is Pete and why did Sting never
use him again?

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From: Jason Startt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Another Pyramid and Hugh
Date: 08 Apr 1999 18:33:44 -0400

>
>If Sting's truly interested in progression and is opposed to the status
>quo--why not try a different producer, especially one that's not
>associated with the early to mid 80s pop music scene? I'm not suggesting
>Sting try loop freaks like William Orbit, Flood, or Bjork's boyfriend,
>but there are other decent producers besides Hugh Padgam.
>

Does anyone know if this William Orbit guy has produced any Peter Gabriel
Albums?  I have a Madonna B-side from her latest album called 'Has to be'
and it sounds just like something off of Peter Gabriel's 'So' Album.

Thanks,
Jason

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (police) probably me
Date: 08 Apr 1999 18:35:29 EDT

the Leathal weapon version with clapton is the original...and i think a
little better version of the song...its simplicity with brillilant use of the
lighter sound as a beat is killer

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From: "Maurizio Saccani" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Sting on new Andy album
Date: 09 Apr 1999 00:37:00 +0200

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Don't know if anybody has already mentioned that on the list, but Sting =
will appear on the new Andy Summers album named "Green Chymneys". Sting =
performs on the famous Monk's standard "'Round Midnight". More info on =
the album are available at the following link (Andy's Web page):

http://www.andysummers.com/greenchimney.html


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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) pete smith
Date: 08 Apr 1999 22:43:24 -0400

[e-mail] wrote:

> speaking of Pete.......in my less than humble opinion....Dream/Turtles was
> the best album evere made by anyone....

This is my favourite Sting album by far ("Nothing" is probably a close
second). Only song I skip over now on Dream is the first track . . .
Unfortunately the sound quality on Dream is soooo muddied; but this may be due
to the time period and technology than anything else.

I'm not suggesting, by the way, that Hugh Padgam completely sucks (although, I
do associate this guy with an 80s sound, and Sting's always talking about
challenging the status quo). . . Only that, from what little I know about
music, working with different producers can offer different
perspectives--offer new stimuli for "creative" juices.

Regards,
--
Aaron Cole
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From: "Julie Poliquin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) New York info request
Date: 08 Apr 1999 23:05:05 -0400


Hi guys,

The countdown to the Rainforest Foundation Concert as started.

Anybody else going on this list? I know I am. :-)

While I'm in NY, there's a few palces I'd like to go and I'd appreciate it
if someone would provide me with a few addresses.

1) Sting's address. Now... I don't plan on stalking the man, camp outside
his appartement building or anything like that. I'm a sain and decent 34
year old mother of two (Does this help?) I'd just like to get a glimpse of
the building. And who knows, and could get lucky... So if you have an
address or street name and are willing to share this with me, just e-mail
me privately.

2) Record stores where I could find imports ans boots at decent prices
(Sting stuff of course)

3) Bookstores

4) Restaurants and nice places to get a drink

So if you care and have a few minutes to waste, I'll be glad to read your
suggestions...
BTW, I've posted this request a while back and didn't get any response
(except for Julian who was very nice and contributed hotels and restaurants
suggestions). Don't you people like me?

About the show. Anyone who watched the Grammies must have seen how
enthousiastic Trudie was after Ricky Martin's performance. I thought it was
so cute to see his name added to the list of performers for the Carnegie
Hall shoe just a few weeks later.

So long for now.

Jules



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From: "squirrel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) New York info request
Date: 08 Apr 1999 21:11:19 -0700

>the building. And who knows, and could get lucky...

Uhm, what exactly do you mean by this? :)


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From: Gerard Marks <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Sting on new Andy album
Date: 08 Apr 1999 21:50:47 -0700 (PDT)

First I am hearing about it.  Thanks for the info.  The last time Sting
appeared on Andy's album playing bass, Andy appeared on Sting's album,
would there be a repeat?

I hope Sting doesn't repeat himself doing a great vocal performances on
other albums (Leaving Las Vegas) and just an OK performance on his own
(Mercury Falling).  Looks like he did a heck of a job on Andy's.

From Andy's web site:

Summers pushes the parameters on "'Round Midnight," resulting in one of
Green Chimneys'
 high points and one of former partner Stings finest vocal
performances.

 "I thought he'd be great on this, I called him up and he called back
immediately. He was
 completely into it. I got the track together with Peter and Dave, then
I took it to Sting who
 was in Italy at the time. He sang it and it was great. He sang with a
lot of feeling. I think he
 was pretty comfortable doing this."

Gerard


--- Maurizio Saccani <[e-mail]> wrote:
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> the list, but Sting will appear on the new Andy
> Summers album named "Green Chymneys". Sting performs
> on the famous Monk's standard "'Round Midnight".
> More info on the album are available at the
> following link (Andy's Web page):
>
> http://www.andysummers.com/greenchimney.html
>
>
> YO!
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From: "Ross Viner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Three CD set
Date: 08 Apr 1999 22:29:59 -0700

Is there anything new with regards to this?

Ross
-----Original Message-----


>Hey Gang~
>
>Swew was at one of our local radio stations (in Minneapolis) last week, and
>he said that the band all got together and recorded audio CD liner notes
>for an upcoming 3 CD set.  He said it was great because they could talk
>about "what guitar Andy was playing or what foul mood Sting was in."  I
>haven't heard anything about this set, so I'm wondering what will be on it.
> It should be neat to hear the ol' boys all together around one mic though.
>
>Take care everyone,
>
>James



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (police) Stewart soundtrack
Date: 09 Apr 1999 01:41:48 EDT

Hello,
I just picked up copelands score for the film
"Little boy blue" - 1998
Has anyone seen the movie?
Johnny

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From: David Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (police) Sting on new Andy album
Date: 09 Apr 1999 09:13:21 +0100

So Sting appears on Andy's new album and Andy is on tour in UK playing at
the Pizza Express at the same time as the Tibetan Peace Garden which Sting
may be at. An appearance perhaps? Damn, and I moving to Ireland a week
before this - shit happens!

Dave




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> Don't know if anybody has already mentioned that on the list, but Sting
> will appear on the new Andy Summers album named "Green Chymneys". Sting
> performs on the famous Monk's standard "'Round Midnight". More info on the
> album are available at the following link (Andy's Web page):
> á
> http://www.andysummers.com/greenchimney.html
> á
> á
> YO!
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (police) Dennis Fixed The Police Scrapbook on Andy's Website!!!
Date: 09 Apr 1999 07:40:36 EDT

Among other things, I didn't notice yesterday,according to the newspage the
photos which had problems in the Police Scrapbook section have been repaired.

There is an addition to the Green Chimney's page,in brilliant ectoplasm
green, there is a beautiful review, that wasn't there yesterday.

I am going back to check out the new additions and Amazon .com to see if I
can buy the new CD.
http://www.andysummers.com
:)
Andrea

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From: Mat Planet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Welcome!
Date: 09 Apr 1999 08:49:16 -0400

>From: "Michael Greenberg" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: (police) Let me introduce myself
>
>Hi everyone

Welcome Michael!
MacOS Rules!

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From: cHriS <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) OFF-TOPIC: Rod Stewart
Date: 09 Apr 1999 08:10:57 -0600


Sorry to get off the Police/Sting track, but I had to speak up about the
Rod Stewart concert I saw here in Minneapolis last night. What a blast! I
had never seen him live before, and I don't own any of his albums (I'm
frankly not a classic rock person at all), but my girlfriend scored some
decent tickets so off we went. I had a great time watching this "old man"
run around on stage, full of energy, swinging the mic above his head,
totally working the crowd. It was great! When I compare this show to the
many of Sting's that I've seen, I think Sting could take a cue or two from
Rod on stage demeanor: step out from behind that bass once in a while and
have some fun!

Anyway, Rod Stewart was a good show. Makes me look forward even more to
Sting's inevitable Lovers tour! WhoooOOOooo!

- cHriS (still not a classic rock guy, but the tolerance is growing)





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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) OFF-TOPIC: Rod Stewart
Date: 09 Apr 1999 08:35:43 -0500

>many of Sting's that I've seen, I think Sting could take a cue or two from
>Rod on stage demeanor: step out from behind that bass once in a while and
>have some fun!

Oh... then Sting wasn't having fun when I saw him in concert sneaking
around behind Bransford Marsalis playing "air sax" and getting chased by
same when discovered?  *grin*  Good to know these things...

But remember... different stage performances stem from different
personalities.  What works for "Rod the Bod" who was doing "Do Ya Think I'm
Sexy" (or whatever that was) 20 years ago while Sting was writing songs
like MITB might not work today for this man who seems to *like* his
notoriously high-brow image...
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From: "antoni" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Rainforest tickets for STINA
Date: 17 Mar 1999 21:01:19 +0100

Hi,

  A few days ago I received a mail from some one of this list offering
tickets for Rainforest Show from a frined who has 2 from balcone.I'm sorr=
y,
but I lost the mail and it's probably that STINA from Madrid wants to
be.Please,try to conctact me privatly..I know that is some one from Holla=
nd
and very friendly with Stina.

  Thanks for help to Stina=20

  Best Wishes

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (police) Andy Touring
Date: 09 Apr 1999 17:30:03 +0200


FYI, I wrote a short Email to the Andy site, since I'm
disappointed that he won't come to France for his next tour
(it was already the case for the small "Mr X" touring).

Here is the answer :

"Dear Vincent
Thanks for your email.   Sorry but we do not choose where we tour,

Unfortunately the agents & promoters concerned made offers for the UK &
Italy only - we don't know why.  Andy loves Paris, (so do I).

Maybe next time?

Best regards

Dennis
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Subject: (police) Andy Touring
Date: 09 Apr 1999 17:30:03 +0200


FYI, I wrote a short Email to the Andy site, since I'm
disappointed that he won't come to France for his next tour
(it was already the case for the small "Mr X" touring).

Here is the answer :

"Dear Vincent
Thanks for your email.   Sorry but we do not choose where we tour,

Unfortunately the agents & promoters concerned made offers for the UK &
Italy only - we don't know why.  Andy loves Paris, (so do I).

Maybe next time?

Best regards

Dennis
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From: "M.J. Vlasveld" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Sting in Hello Magazine
Date: 09 Apr 1999 19:35:37 +0200

Hi Wendy and Dave, Hi all,

Sting is in this week's Hello Magazine (number 554, April 6 1999):

Trudie Styler organises an evening of Shakespeare

Shakespeare's Globe Theatre in London was the setting for a star-studded
fundraising show in aid of the Tibetan Peace Garden Appeal in Southwark,
which will be opened this May by the Dalai Lama.
Vinnie Jones, Lulu, Jack Dee and Sting were among those taking part in
Shi-Wa (which means Peace), a show inspired by the works of Shakespeare
which was organised by Sting's wife Trudie Styler.
Vinnie Jones took to the stage to re-enact the fight scene from Romeo
and Julliet which his Lock Stock.... co-star Nick Moran, while Ethan
Hawke recited the 'To be or not to be' speech from Hamlet and Miranda
Richardson read a sonnet.
Despite her dedication, Trudie -Who co-produced Lock....- admitted that
organising the event had been more difficult than she'd anticipated.
"Maybe I underestimated how hard it would be to pull together an evening
like this", she said. And to thank cast members she gave each of them a
saffron pashmina scarf.

There are four photo's (one of the concert and one of the rehearsal and
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From: Angel C Little <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) "It's probably me" theater version
Date: 08 Apr 1999 18:28:24 -0500

>I'm under the impression that the version on Sting's album was his mix
>and
>the version in the movie was the one he did with Clapton.  (I could
>be
>wrong.)  I prefer the movie mix, myself.  With the scrape of a lighter
>as a
>rhythm point; brilliant foreshadowing of the movie's finale.  I don't
>know
>for a fact but always assumed that it would be the version on the
>Lethal
>Weapon 3 soundtrack.  Anyone else know more?

The Sting/Clapton version is on the Lethal Weapon 3 soundtrack,
its the first song on it. I got a tape copy of it one day at Wal-Mart for
$2. However, I personally like the one on TST better.

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From: Olivia Henderson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) The Living Sea
Date: 09 Apr 1999 13:21:25 -0700 (PDT)


>The Living Sea can only be see at the Museum of Science and Idustry's
(a.k.a. MOSI) IMAX theater.

Actually, it's currently playing at many theatres around the country.
I saw i about 7 times one summer in Hawaii, where it's playing at the
Polynesian Cultural Center (http://www.polynesia.com).  I also saw it
somewhere on the fisherman's wharf in SF, and in Seattle too.  Check
around, there's sure to be one SOMEWHERE near you.

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From: Dave & Wendy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Sting in Hello Magazine
Date: 09 Apr 1999 21:25:24 +0100

At 19:35 09/04/99 +0200, Markus wrote:

>Sting is in this week's Hello Magazine (number 554, April 6 1999):

Thanks Markus, we'd given up looking, so thanks for the tip-off!

We've finally managed to get our hands on a copy of Sting's interview which
appeared in the March '99 issue of British Airways in-house magazine,
"Hi-life". It was done in India, Sting talks about Kenny Kirkland, India,
Spiritualism, playing there in '80 with the Police etc... It's really good,
and was done by Adrian Deevoy.

Just got back from London, so it won't be on the site till Monday.

Cheers
Wendy & Dave
Stingchronicity <http://www.stingchronicity.co.uk/>

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From: Dave & Wendy <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) First UK Bootleg Conviction - No Police Content (apart from
Date: 09 Apr 1999 21:31:03 +0100

<html>
<font face=3D"verdana" color=3D"#000080"><b>May be of interest to some
traders...<br>
<br>
MUSIC INDUSTRY WINS ANTI-BOOTLEG TEST CASE</b> <br>
The first successful private criminal prosecution of a UK record
bootlegger by the British Phonographic Industry was completed in London
on Thursday (April 8). Paul Mitchell, a record dealer from Sheffield,
England, was found guilty at Bow Street Magistrates Court on six charges
in breach of the Copyright Designs & Patents Act 1988 brought by the
BPI, the body representing British record companies. Chief Metropolitan
Magistrate Mr Ronal Bartle fined Mitchell =A3200 on each charge (=A31,200)
and ordered him to pay the BPI costs of =A38,000. The court action followed
the seizure of hundreds of bootlegs at a record fair in Victoria, London
last May. Artists featured on the confiscated recordings ranged from The
Beatles to the Spice Girls and included live concerts and compilations of
B-sides. <br>
<br>
BPI evidence stated that Mitchell had been selling the illegal CDs for
=A313 each and he admitted in court that he earned over =A340,000 tax-free
annually from his operation. The Chief Magistrate additionally ordered
the forfeiture of the 737 CDs seized from Mitchell. <br>
David Martin, Head of Operations at the BPI commented afer the verdict:
"I am delighted with the successful outcome of our first private
criminal prosecution. Wherever possible we shall continue to push for
prosecutions through close co-operation with the local authorities but
this case proves that we can take action ourselves where necessary."
<br>
</font>
<BR>
Stingchronicity
<<a href=3D"http://www.stingchronicity.co.uk/"=
 EUDORA=3DAUTOURL>http://www.stingchronicity.co.uk/</a>>
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From: "antoni" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) luuksc message
Date: 17 Mar 1999 22:49:06 +0100

Hi

  This Toni carbo this a message for luuksc from Holland.Please something
is wrong in your server and is not possible to answer your mails.

  Thanks for your help  concerning STINA tickets.I call today and I ask for
the pics of the London show.

  Best

Toni

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From: "martin.vauchel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) mp3 downlodable
Date: 10 Apr 1999 14:14:36 +0200

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Hi all,
As some of yours have probably notice yet, you can download songs in mp3 =
format from my website: the hounds of winter.
I send you this message because I gonna soon change those files.
So people who wants to download "another pyramid" and
"Ooh la la hugh" have to make it quite quickly!!!
I'd like to have your opinion on which song have to be in this page
very soon. I'm waiting for your request and will upload the two most =
asked files.

Cheers
Martin
_________________________________________________
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The Hounds Of Winter: http://members.xoom.com/thehounds

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yours have=20
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winter.</FONT></DIV>
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those=20
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pyramid"=20
and</FONT></DIV>
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quickly!!!</FONT></DIV>
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be in this=20
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upload the=20
two most asked files.</FONT></DIV>
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From: Thom & Holly Mollo <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Off topic but you'll love this!
Date: 10 Apr 1999 10:09:11 -0400

Hi group!
Got this from a friend of mine and it was too good not to share!
Have a great weekend!
Holly Mollo

TO: Trojan Army Listserv < [e-mail]
> RE: WARNING!! BEWARE GREEKS BEARING GIFTS!
>
> Hey Hector,
>
> This was forwarded to me by Cassandra--it looks legit. Please
> distribute to Priam, Hecuba, and your 99 siblings.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Laocoon
>
> WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!
>
> IF YOU RECEIVE A GIFT IN THE SHAPE OF A LARGE WOODEN
> HORSE DO NOT
> DOWNLOAD IT!!!! It is EXTREMELY DESTRUCTIVE and will
> overwrite your ENTIRE CITY!
>
> The "gift" is disguised as a large wooden horse about
> two stories tall.
>
> It tends to show up outside the city gates and
> appears to be abandoned.
>
> DO NOT let it through the gates! It contains hardware
> that is incompatible with Trojan programming, including a
> crowd of heavily armed Greek warriors that will destroy your army,
> sack your town, and kill your women and children. If you have
> already received such a gift, DO NOT OPEN IT! Take it back out of the city
> unopened and set fire to it by the beach.
>
> FORWARD THIS MESSAGE TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW!
>
> --Poseidon
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> FROM: [e-mail]
> TO: [e-mail]
> RE: Greeks bearing gifts
>
> Laocoon,
>
> I hate to break to you, but this is one of the oldest
> hoaxes there is.  I've seen variants on this warning come through
> on other listservs, one involving some kind of fruit that was
> supposed to kill the people who ate it and one having to do with
> something called the "Midas Touch."
>
> Here are a few tipoffs that this is a hoax:
>
> 1) This "Forward this message to everyone you know" junk. If it were
> really meant as a warning about the Greek army, why tell anyone to
> post it to the Phonecians, Sumerians, and Cretans?
>
> 2) Use of exclamation points. Always a giveaway.
>
> 3) It's signed "from Poseidon." Granted he's had his problems with
> Odysseus but he's one of their guys, isn't he?
> Besides, the lack of a real header with a detailed address makes me
> suspicious.
>
> 4) Technically speaking, there is no way for a horse to overwrite
> your entire city. A horse is just an animal, after all.
>
> Next time you get a message like this, just delete it. I appreciate
> your concern, but once you've been around the block a couple times
> you'll realize how annoying this kind of stuff is.
>
> Bye now,
> Hector
>


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From: Dave & Wendy <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Andy at the Pizza Express Jazz Cafe, London
Date: 10 Apr 1999 15:25:37 +0100

As a few of you from Holland and Germany have asked, we spoke to the Pizza
Express Jazz Club this morning. Tickets as such do not go on sale - you
don't get an actual ticket. You make a reservation, they enter your name in
the 'book' and you turn up for your seat/table on the date/time you agreed
for your reservation. The intention is clearly for you to have a meal there
(as it was last year at Andy's shows) and the cost of the ticket is then
added to your evening's bill. For what it's worth the food is good but the
beer expensive (it is London remember!) Ticket prices haven't been decided
yet but they indicated they could be between UK=A315-=A320. Kenny Garrett is
they this week and his tickets are priced at UK=A320.

The Club confirmed that Andy would be using the dates for the UK launch of
"Green Chimney's". The girl we spoke to had heard the album - they have
been sent an advance copy - and said everyone was raving about it, and that
it was very different in style to "...Mr X". In fact, "brilliant" was the
word used.

Reservations can be made now, by calling the telephone number quoted on
Andy's "Touring" page http://www.andysummers.com - sorry haven't got the
number to hand right now.

Cheers
Dave & Wendy

Stingchronicity <http://www.stingchronicity.co.uk/>

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From: "Jeremyland ." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Who wants to meet for the Andy shows in London
Date: 10 Apr 1999 14:42:27 GMT

Hello Folks,
            As there are quite a few nights he's playing I wanted to
know who is planning on going and on what nights etc, It would be
nice to meet up with some of you again. I havent been on a Police
Sting type excursion for quite a while, since those nights in New
York with Ross and Bill, Benjamin and also meeting a few others of
you, and while Dave and Wendy will not a have a couch for me to sleep
on in London, nor will Wendy be able to be the Queen of Jam on Toast
and tea , It would still be a pleasure to see them again. If Benjamin
is reading this then I wish for you to email me your telephone number
as I have been in Paris twice in the last 6 weeks and both times was
unable to track you down.

Take care

Jer


Reply-To: Dave & Wendy <[e-mail]>

As a few of you from Holland and Germany have asked, we spoke to the
Pizza
Express Jazz Club this morning. Tickets as such do not go on sale -
you
don't get an actual ticket. You make a reservation, they enter your
name in
the 'book' and you turn up for your seat/table on the date/time you
agreed
for your reservation. The intention is clearly for you to have a meal
there
(as it was last year at Andy's shows) and the cost of the ticket is
then
added to your evening's bill. For what it's worth the food is good
but the
beer expensive (it is London remember!) Ticket prices haven't been
decided
yet but they indicated they could be between UKú15-ú20. Kenny Garrett
is
they this week and his tickets are priced at UKú20.

The Club confirmed that Andy would be using the dates for the UK
launch of
"Green Chimney's". The girl we spoke to had heard the album - they
have
been sent an advance copy - and said everyone was raving about it,
and that
it was very different in style to "...Mr X". In fact, "brilliant" was
the
word used.

Reservations can be made now, by calling the telephone number quoted
on
Andy's "Touring" page http://www.andysummers.com - sorry haven't got
the
number to hand right now.

Cheers
Dave & Wendy

Stingchronicity <http://www.stingchronicity.co.uk/>

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From: Gerard Marks <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Hugh/Next Tour & Album
Date: 10 Apr 1999 09:29:27 -0700 (PDT)

I agree, time for a new producer, band, manager, everything, change is
good and it has always worked well for Sting.

Also, Sting, if you're listening, on the next tour, please drop the
"When the World/Bring on the Night" medley for something new, I have
been hearing it for your last 14 years of touring, you have a million
other hits you haven't played, just some suggestions, "Bourbon Street",
"I burn for you", "Children's Crusade", "Spirits in a material world",
"Wrapped Around your finger", "Love is the 7th wave", "Lazarus Heart",
"It's probably me"?  Mercury Falling songs on the next tour, "Hounds of
Winter" and "Hung my Head".  Seriously, if I hear BOTN/WTWIRD medley on
the next tour, it'll convince me Sting has thrown in the towel and is
sitting on his laurels.

One last thing, if Vinnie is back to the energy he had on the TST album
and tour, I suggest you keep him, but drop the rest!

Final, final thought, send me an upfront copy of your next album, and
I'll choose the songs you should release.  Since Stewart and Andy are
no longer around, there is no one capable of picking the obvious hits
from your albums, it's simply stupid that Hounds of Winter was not your
first single off your last album.  I promise I won't change the time
signature on your singles to sabotage your great music.

Gerard

--- The Webslinger <[e-mail]> wrote:
> If Sting's truly interested in progression and is
> opposed to the status
> quo--why not try a different producer, especially
> one that's not
> associated with the early to mid 80s pop music
> scene? I'm not suggesting
> Sting try loop freaks like William Orbit, Flood, or
> Bjork's boyfriend,
> but there are other decent producers besides Hugh
> Padgam.




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From: Gerard Marks <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) OFF-TOPIC: Rod Stewart
Date: 10 Apr 1999 09:43:32 -0700 (PDT)

He did this a bit on the NLTS tour when he had Tracy Wormworth on bass.
 Unlike strumming a guitar, he really can't step out from behind the
bass once in a while, the bass is the foundation to the music, just
can't be done.  I also prefer to hear and see him play the bass than
someone else, it amazes me how he can do both so successfully.

IMO, if Sting started acting like Rod Stewart on stage, I think I'll
loose respect for him.  I always admired his concerts for focusing on
the music and not some stupid laser show or an over-choreographed dance
show. Other singers need that to cover for the lack of depth in their
music, Sting does not.


Gerard


--- cHriS <[e-mail]> wrote:
> When I
> compare this show to the
> many of Sting's that I've seen, I think Sting could
> take a cue or two from
> Rod on stage demeanor: step out from behind that
> bass once in a while and
> have some fun!



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From: "Martin Vauchel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Hugh/Next Tour & Album
Date: 10 Apr 1999 19:06:44 +0200

Hi Gerard, Hi Everybody

I mut agree with you on a great part of your comments.
"Hounds of winter" is definitively the best song on MF for me
with "I hung my head". I really hope he still be playing those ones on
the next tour ('m afraid he'll give up "hounds" for "I'm so happy",
Like he have done in the festivals of summer 97).

Cheers

For those who haven't download mp3 "another pyramid" & "ooh la la
hugh" yet. Speed you up!!!!

Martin

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De : Gerard Marks <[e-mail]>
=C0 : [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date : samedi 10 avril 1999 18:32
Objet : Re: (police) Hugh/Next Tour & Album


>I agree, time for a new producer, band, manager, everything, change is
>good and it has always worked well for Sting.
>
>Also, Sting, if you're listening, on the next tour, please drop the
>"When the World/Bring on the Night" medley for something new, I have
>been hearing it for your last 14 years of touring, you have a million
>other hits you haven't played, just some suggestions, "Bourbon Street",
>"I burn for you", "Children's Crusade", "Spirits in a material world",
>"Wrapped Around your finger", "Love is the 7th wave", "Lazarus Heart",
>"It's probably me"?  Mercury Falling songs on the next tour, "Hounds of
>Winter" and "Hung my Head".  Seriously, if I hear BOTN/WTWIRD medley on
>the next tour, it'll convince me Sting has thrown in the towel and is
>sitting on his laurels.
>
>One last thing, if Vinnie is back to the energy he had on the TST album
>and tour, I suggest you keep him, but drop the rest!
>
>Final, final thought, send me an upfront copy of your next album, and
>I'll choose the songs you should release.  Since Stewart and Andy are
>no longer around, there is no one capable of picking the obvious hits
>from your albums, it's simply stupid that Hounds of Winter was not your
>first single off your last album.  I promise I won't change the time
>signature on your singles to sabotage your great music.
>
>Gerard
>
>--- The Webslinger <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> If Sting's truly interested in progression and is
>> opposed to the status
>> quo--why not try a different producer, especially
>> one that's not
>> associated with the early to mid 80s pop music
>> scene? I'm not suggesting
>> Sting try loop freaks like William Orbit, Flood, or
>> Bjork's boyfriend,
>> but there are other decent producers besides Hugh
>> Padgam.
>
>
>
>
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Subject: (police) new cd collection 4 sale
Date: 10 Apr 1999 20:27:58 +0200 (MET DST)



These are the latest items. prices are without
postage costs, mail me if interested.

-u.s 3inch (englishman/someone to watch/up from the skies) $25.00
-japan 3inch(same as above but japanese)$25.00
-japan 3inch(all this time+miss you kate)$20.00
-japan 3inch(nothin bout me+january stars)$20.00
-japan 3inch(if i ever lose faith+every breath you take)$20.00
-japan 3inch(demolition man+love is stronger than justice)$20.00
-acoustic live  in newcastl(5tracks live from newcastle) uk only cd. $30.00
 this is the cd only no box or book
-fields of gold:best of cd-(japan only full lp cd w/ 3inch bonus cd)$30.00
ten summoners tales-interview disc(u.s promo only cd)$25.00
-ten summoners tales-(japan full cd lp w/5 live cd included in box) $30.00
-nuggets from fields of gold-(u.s promo only cd sampler from greatest
hits)$25.00
-timothy white sessions-2cd sting live radioshow from 1993)$80.00
-police-message in a box (us promo only sampler cd)$20.00
-police-message in a box(u.s promo only 3cd set radioshow)$35.00
-police-dont stand so close....86.(u.s promo only cd single)$20.00
-police-live (us promo only sampler cd)$20.00
-why should i cry for you?-(us promo only 3 mixes cd)$25.00
-why should i cry for you?-(1track us promo)$15.00
-all this time+2(uk only numbered pic.disc cd in gatefold sleeve)$15.00
-all this time+4(japan cd single)$20.00
-all this time-(us promo only 2mixes)$10.00
-I shall be released part 1, 2 or 3 $16.00 each
-mad about you+2(uk limited edition numbered cd in tri-fold sleeve)$15.00
-mad about you-(us promo only 2mixes)$15.00
-mad about you-(us promo 3mixes)$25.00
-demolition man-(phive phat mixes us promo only pic.disc.cd single)$20.00
-demolition man-(spain only 1 track promo)$15.00
-ten summoners tales-(austrailia full lp cd in slip box with bonus cd)$30.00
police- uk promo only 3track cd numbered ltd.edition for greatest hits.$20.00


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From: mario palacios <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Hugh/Next Tour & Album
Date: 10 Apr 1999 11:51:35 -0700 (PDT)

Gerald
I am in total agreement with you.  That medley is getting very old.  Let's
hope the next album is  better than the last one.  Not that Mercury
FAlling was bad but I think that Sting needs to be a little more energetic
with his next album

Mario








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From: "terrence sheehan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Hugh/Next Tour & Album
Date: 10 Apr 1999 15:10:20 -0400


In regards to the album being upbeat with a title like "The Lovers", I'm not
to optomistic about that happening. If Sting wants his album to be upbeat he
should get back with stewart. No one I've ever heard is more upbeat than
him. As far as producer, I always liked the police albums engineered by
Nigel Gray at Surrey Sound Studios. The Police sound was best in my opinion
on those first three albums which Nigel engineered.

Take Care,
Terrence Sheehan

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From: "Martin Vauchel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) lyrics asked
Date: 10 Apr 1999 21:56:57 +0200

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Hi all,
I'd like to complete the lyrics library of "the hounds of winter"
website with 'Round Midnight, a Monk tune that will be released on=20
Andy forthcoming album and that feature Sting as guest vocalist.
If anyone could mail me those ones it would be cool.
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From: Dave & Wendy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) lyrics asked
Date: 10 Apr 1999 21:28:01 +0100

At 21:56 10/04/99 +0200, Martin wrote:=20
>
> Hi all,
> I'd like to complete the lyrics library of "the hounds of winter"
> website with 'Round Midnight, a Monk tune that will be released on=A0
> Andy forthcoming album and that feature Sting as guest vocalist.
> If anyone could mail me those ones it would be cool.
> Thank you


It begins to tell=20
Round midnight, round midnight;=20
I do pretty well=20
'Til after sundown;=20
Supper time, I'm feelin' sad=20
But it really gets bad=20
Round midnight=20

Mem'ries always start=20
Round midnight, round midnight;=20
Haven't got the heart=20
To stand those memories=20
When my heart is still with you=20
And old midnight=20
Knows it too.=20

When some quarrel we've had needs mending=20
Does that mean that our love is ending?=20
Darling, I need you;=20
Lately I find=20
You're out of my arms=20
And I'm out of my mind.=20

Let our hearts take wing=20
Round midnight, round midnight;=20
Let the angels sing=20
For your returning;=20
Let our love be safe and sound=20
'Til old midnight=20
Comes around.=20

Cheers
Wendy & Dave

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From: Jason Startt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Hugh/Next Tour & Album
Date: 10 Apr 1999 16:48:30 -0400

I'm in total agreement with both of you.  That medley is way too overdone.
I enjoyed it when I saw it for the first time on the TST tour, but I was a
little disappointed that he repeated it again on the MF tour.  I'm sure the
band can come up with another way for the keyboardist to go crazy!

I'm also hoping for a higher-energy album this september.  I agree, that a
name like 'the lovers' isn't conducive to high energy, but as I heard
someone else on the list say, Sting will probably surprise us.

-Jason

At 11:51 AM 4/10/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Gerald
>I am in total agreement with you.  That medley is getting very old.  Let's
>hope the next album is  better than the last one.  Not that Mercury
>FAlling was bad but I think that Sting needs to be a little more energetic
>with his next album
>
>Mario
>
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From: Mario <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) next album
Date: 10 Apr 1999 16:54:24 -0700

I am anxiously awaiting the next album.  Sting is still full of energy I
think and I would like to see him jump more on stage.  What about "So
Lonely?" or some other song that has not been played in quite a while.
Of course I am in agreement with Terrance.  Sting with Andy and Stewart
would create that charismatic combination they are known for.

Mario

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: "Message in a Bottle"
Date: 11 Apr 1999 01:57:18 EDT

But I should have known this right from the start
> Only hope can keep me together
> Love can mend your life
> But love can break your heart

This is one of the first Police songs i think i heard and fell in love with
as a kid as well! There is always something about their music, the words ,
the sounds that lured me in..even if at that age i didnt understand and maybe
have only now really began to listen. They tend to sum um life experiences
very well, in only a few short lines. The words above are something i can
relate to very well and realize at times others do as well.

 Seems I'm not alone at being alone
> A hundred billion casatways
> Looking for a home

I think we all tend to send out an S.O.S...  so is there anyone out there
that actually cares...


Dwelling in the darkness....

Sarah

"Let your soul be your pilot, let your soul guide your way..."


p.s.  sorry if i'm late on writing....been working overnighters for 3 weeks
and no time to check mail....   =)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (police) IMAX - "The Living Sea"
Date: 11 Apr 1999 02:01:28 EDT

I love that CD!!  i have not been to see the movie as well  , but hope to
try... maybe his weeknd actually if i get around to it..before my long
overnight haul...  its so relaxing and breathtaking to listen to...  a must
for any sting fan!

sarah

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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: Message in a Bottle
Date: 11 Apr 1999 13:10:15


>> See, all this time I've been naively assuming that the different drumming
>> was just part of Stewart's genius... *s*  IMHO I can only think of two
>> other drummers in the whole world who even *begin* to approach his level of
>
>Just curious: Phil Collins and Roger Taylor? Or anyone else?

Omar  Hakim and Mark Brzecki. Although I do agree tthat Phil is definitely
in the top five personal favorites.  And don't forget Neil Perth and Joey
Kramer.  *g*  And don't worry, I can't spell names, I probbbabbly didn't
spell any of them right...
________________________
wee kimberleen
"Love which is not madness is not love."

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From: "Cousin Jade" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) SOTW:"Message in a bottle"
Date: 11 Apr 1999 20:01:44 -0400

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Not really much I can add here that has'nt already been said.The song =
and music by the police in general brings back fond memories of =
childhood ect...Probably one of the funniest things I've ever seen =
growing up was the minipops rendition of the song.It had me rolling on =
the floor with laughter.Anyhoo on my first trip out to the eastcoast =
awhile back,there was one thing that was in the back of my mind the =
whole trip.It was something I just always wanted to do ever since I =
heard the song.A whale watching cruise provided me the perfect =
opportunity to put my plan inot action.I did'nt see any whales that day =
by the way.I was given a raincheck but it's unlikely I'll ever be in =
that neck of the woods again.I still think they should have just given =
me my money back.Anyways I brought my bottle with it's enclosed message =
and I dropped it into the sea when no one was looking.
About two years went by and I had all but forgotten the incident.A =
letter arrives in the mail from Australia,and I thought is'nt this =
strange.I don't know anyone from down under.Anyhoo my message in a =
bottle had turned up in the belly of a shark caught down there.I thought =
to myself this is sooo cool.Not only had someone got my message but they =
responded aswell.I've kept the letter to this very day.Now I just need =
to visit Africa sometime to check out deserts...

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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Javier_Mac=EDas_B=2E=22?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: Message in a Bottle
Date: 11 Apr 1999 22:06:59 -0600

Well, I don=B4t post often here to the list, but this "debate" sounded
interesting to me. As a drummer I think thar the work of Stewart is just a
genius work, but there r many other drummers that can do his "job" in the
Sting era. Omar Hakim is one of them, and of course MR VINNIE COLAIUTA!,
that I think that is the best durmmer all-around and I think that he and
Stew r the best drummers that have played with Sting (that=B4s my very
personal point of view :-) I love his work on Police songs..... I don=B4t
think that Roger Taylor could do that kind of jobs neither Joey Kramer, and
well Mr Neil Peart is another great drummer, one of the best drummers of
all times!! (and one of my favorites too), but I can=B4t  imagine Neil
playing "Msg. in a bottle".=20

See ya!

Javier :-)
>
>>> See, all this time I've been naively assuming that the different=
 drumming
>>> was just part of Stewart's genius... *s*  IMHO I can only think of two
>>> other drummers in the whole world who even *begin* to approach his level=
 of
>>
>>Just curious: Phil Collins and Roger Taylor? Or anyone else?
>
>Omar  Hakim and Mark Brzecki. Although I do agree tthat Phil is definitely
>in the top five personal favorites.  And don't forget Neil Perth and Joey
>Kramer.  *g*  And don't worry, I can't spell names, I probbbabbly didn't
>spell any of them right...=20
>________________________
>wee kimberleen
>"Love which is not madness is not love."
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: Message in a Bottle
Date: 12 Apr 1999 00:33:47 EDT

In a message dated 4/12/99 12:14:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [e-mail]=
m=20
writes:

<< Well, I don=B4t post often here to the list, but this "debate" sounded
 interesting to me. As a drummer I think thar the work of Stewart is just a
 genius work, but there r many other drummers that can do his "job" in the
 Sting era. Omar Hakim is one of them, and of course MR VINNIE COLAIUTA!,
 that I think that is the best durmmer all-around and I think that he and
 Stew r the best drummers that have played with Sting (that=B4s my very
 personal point of view :-) I love his work on Police songs..... I don=B4t
 think that Roger Taylor could do that kind of jobs neither Joey Kramer, and
 well Mr Neil Peart is another great drummer, one of the best drummers of
 all times!! (and one of my favorites too), but I can=B4t  imagine Neil
 playing "Msg. in a bottle".=20
  >>

i think we're leaving out the clown (or is it crown?) prince of drumming,=20
keith moon of the who.  the man could and would play anything, and had that=20
weird sense of humor that all drummers tend to have.  his sense of rhythm wa=
s=20
amazing and he had a way of leading every who number in concert.  its rumore=
d=20
that they slowed down a tape of him drumming and in every beat there are 2=20
"mini-beats", which is faster than a machine gun fires, or something like=20
that.
also, you can't leave out john bonham of zeppelin, because he had this=20
awesome power about him... you could hear the wildness of his personality in=20
his drumming but also this intense bluesy sort of thing too... listen to "ho=
w=20
many more times" or "you shook me" on their first album for evidence of this=
.
also, lars ulrich of metallica is very talented, he can go as fast as humanl=
y=20
possible and yet maintain perfect time, which is difficult to do.  granted h=
e=20
uses a double bass which increases his ability to fly thru, say, the solo in=20
"one" but he still is amazing.  he can take any old british heavy metal song=20
and make it sound like metallica just with his style.

dave
...back to lurking

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From: David Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (police) First UK Bootleg Conviction - No Police Content (apa
Date: 12 Apr 1999 09:51:49 +0100

My opinion on this issue...

I'm sure there are many dodgy characters that deal in bootlegs at these
record fairs, but I really think the distinction must be made between those
that sell bootlegged copies of official releases and those who sell live
recordings that are not officially available. Anyone dealing in copies of
official recordings is unarguably ripping-off the artist and deserves the
consequences. Anyone dealing with live recordings and rare recordings is
providing a legitimate service that the record companies do not provide to
the dedicated fans because it is not considered financially viable. These
live 'bootlegs', in my opinion, have no detrimental effect on the official
release sales - if anything, they increase the fans interest in the artist
which may boost official sales.

I know there are many people on this list who actively seek out live
recordings and unusual compilations that record companies do not provide. I
personally have a number of live police recordings which I often listen to
in preference to the official albums. However, owning these unofficial
releases has never deterred me from buying an official release.

I still find it difficult to believe that A&M took so long to release an
official Police Live album, and when they did, it was engineered to such an
extent that it loses much of the spirit of the Police in concert. The simple
fact is that record companies are out to make money and they rarely consider
what the dedicated fans want. Message In a Box is A&M's only saving grace
because it made some rare recordings available on CD for the first time.
However, when it comes to another release of a Police/Sting Compilation
album containing nothing I haven't already got,  I would much rather save my
money and seek out an unofficial live recording.

I believe that unless the record companies provide a better service to
dedicated fans, they are in no position to criticise and prosecute the
so-called 'bootleggers'.


I'd like to know your opinions.

Cheers

Dave



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From: David Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) FW: For Dennis or Andy
Date: 12 Apr 1999 10:14:12 +0100

Guys,

I e-mailed Andy Summers with the following question:-

> Great to hear there is a new album coming out and you are getting over to
the UK again. Last gig at the Pizza Express was fantastic - most definitely
one of the musical highs of my life.
>
> Anyway, as ever, the police mailing list is awash with rumours about Andy
and Sting. The latest one is that Sting might appear in London with Andy. It
is thought that Sting will be in London for the Tibetan Peace Garden on 13th
May and since he is on the new album he may just pop down for a sing-song.
>


Here's a reply I got from Dennis.


> ----------
> From:     Andy Summers[SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Reply To:     [e-mail]
> Sent:     09 April 1999 09:35
> To:     David Murray
> Subject:     Re: For Dennis or Andy
>
> Hi Dave
>
> This is the first we've heard of it - but what do we know?
> Anything's possible - not a lot of help am I?
>
> Anyway give my regards to Devizes!
>
> Best
>
> Dennis
>
>
>

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From: Mat Planet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Hugh & Orbit
Date: 12 Apr 1999 08:54:54 -0400

>>If Sting's truly interested in progression and is opposed to the
status
>>quo--why not try a different producer, especially one that's not
>>associated with the early to mid 80s pop music scene? I'm not
suggesting
>>Sting try loop freaks like William Orbit, Flood, or Bjork's boyfriend,

>>but there are other decent producers besides Hugh Padgam.
>>
>
>Does anyone know if this William Orbit guy has produced any Peter
Gabriel
>Albums?  I have a Madonna B-side from her latest album called 'Has to
be'
>and it sounds just like something off of Peter Gabriel's 'So' Album.
>
>Thanks,
>Jason

William Orbit has never produced or worked with Peter Gabriel.
Gabriel is just so advanced.....
Anyway, it might be neat.
Oh, and Bjork's "boyfriend" - Goldie. And they're not seeing each other
any more.
There's hope!

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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Hugh & Orbit
Date: 12 Apr 1999 09:06:54 -0400

Mat Planet wrote:

> Oh, and Bjork's "boyfriend" - Goldie.

Is that Howie B's nickname?

> And they're not seeing each other
> any more. There's hope!

I wasn't suggesting Bjork was good-looking (far from it). ;-)

Actually, I can't even picture Sting working with Howie B (unless Sting went
back to doing cocaine and smoking doobies; Howie B is kinda known for his
drug habits).

Regards,
--
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From: "Svein B. & Jenn Hjorthaug" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) RE: drumming genii
Date: 12 Apr 1999 15:09:32 +0200

>Omar  Hakim and Mark Brzecki.... *g*  And don't worry,
> can't spell names, I probbbabbly didn't
>spell any of them right...

Ooooh Kimbers...I'm going to have to rat on you to the
Big Country list! ;-) ;-)

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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) First UK Bootleg Conviction - No Police Content (apart from
Date: 12 Apr 1999 09:08:46 -0400

David Murray wrote:

> I believe that unless the record companies provide a better service to
> dedicated fans, they are in no position to criticise and prosecute the
> so-called 'bootleggers'.

I've never been one on this list to pussy-foot around an issue. First, I was
glad to read that article ('cause I have no sympathy for the guy in the article
who got busted, friggin' loser, in my opinion).

Secondly, pirating is just plain pathetic. Lastly, those who sell bootlegs for
profit are just as pathetic.

As for bootlegging live concerts--frankly, I hate professional bootleggers, and
I am glad to hear that this guy was busted (not that he was a pro--but he was
making a nice profit). People who do this nonsense for profit screw over legit
fans (no 2cd live concert set is worth $40+; keep in mind blank cds cost a max
of $3)--and more importantly the artists (it's not like these losers wrote the
music, produced, it and should therefore profit from its sale; it's not like
these guys turn around and reimburse the artist after a sale has been completed
either--so the whole idea about distribution is pathetic as well).

Thank God for cd-rs and cd-r drives; it screws over the professional bootlegger,
drives down prices and increases a high quality, cheap supply (generation loss,
when copies are done properly is very, very negligible; those who suggest
otherwise and pathetically attempting to justify purchasing the $40-$60 bootleg
found in a small local record shop, which in turn supports that industry). The
best fans I have met give live bootleg concerts away for free/at cost (yes,
there are some decent fans out there; if you go on a U2 email list, Wire, for
instance, you'll find a guy named Modsavage who runs contests for free boots
every week . . . I'm not on Wire; I'm on another U2 list made up of fans who are
also willing to give stuff at cost) for the love of the music and for the sake
of sharing the music with other fans. Bootlegs of live concerts do not bother me
(as long an official release doesn't exist--but then it wouldn't be a bootleg;
it would be a pirate--and pirating is absolutely wrong). Trading bootlegs of
live concerts does not bother me either. But, those who sell bootlegs for profit
do bother me (the internet just reeks of this type of behaviour).

I am no doubt, raising the ire of a few of you on this list who practice this
behaviour . . . Good.

Later,
--
Aaron Cole
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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW:"Message in a bottle"
Date: 12 Apr 1999 08:14:50 -0500

>responded aswell.I've  kept the letter to this very day.Now I just need to
>visit Africa sometime to  check out deserts...
>
>                                              Jade
Or best of all, go visit the Dead Heart, Australia's desert.  Then you can
visit your message in a bottle people.  *g*
_________________
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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: Message in a Bottle
Date: 12 Apr 1999 08:21:10 -0500

>Sting era. Omar Hakim is one of them, and of course MR VINNIE COLAIUTA!,
Omar Hakim rules, man.  If you haven't heard "I Burn for You (Live)" then
you just don't know.  ;-)

>think that Roger Taylor could do that kind of jobs neither Joey Kramer, and
I saw Aerosmith in concert.  The man was over 40 and did some very amazing
things.  Hence my opinion.  For instance, I saw Bonham once, and Jason's
dad John Bonham was a very impressive drummer, and in my Top Ten favorites.
 But Jason didn't really impress me as being anything but an egomaniac.

>all times!! (and one of my favorites too), but I can=B4t  imagine Neil
>playing "Msg. in a bottle".=20
I mean!!!!

I notice you don't mention Mark Brzecki, FYI, he's Big Country's drummer.
Rounding out my Top Ten would have to be Keith Moon (He gets the
Personality Award) and the greatest heavy-metal drummer of all time (IMO),
Peter Criss.
_________________
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From: Malav Trivedi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Drummers
Date: 12 Apr 1999 11:42:56 -0400 (EDT)


Since I consider myself to be a decent "air drummer", I had to put my 2
cents on this topic. Stewart to me is king. Moon and Bonham are excellent.
Neil Peart is also a genius.=20

But I don't know if any of you are Pearl Jam fans, but their second
drummer, Dave Abruzeeze (sp?) was fantastic. Too bad the rest of the band
hated his politics. Then, recently on their "Live on Two Legs" CD, Pearl
Jam recruited ex-Soundgarden drummer Matt Cameron and he was absolutley
phenomenal. His rolls and fills blew my mind.=20

Vinnie and Omar get alot of kudos too. Ginger Baker is another one that
comes to mind. Although I didn't really enjoy the fact that he used a
double bass.=20

Take Care, Malav

On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Kimberly Hansing wrote:

> >Sting era. Omar Hakim is one of them, and of course MR VINNIE COLAIUTA!,
> Omar Hakim rules, man.  If you haven't heard "I Burn for You (Live)" then
> you just don't know.  ;-)
>=20
> >think that Roger Taylor could do that kind of jobs neither Joey Kramer, =
and
> I saw Aerosmith in concert.  The man was over 40 and did some very amazin=
g
> things.  Hence my opinion.  For instance, I saw Bonham once, and Jason's
> dad John Bonham was a very impressive drummer, and in my Top Ten favorite=
s.
>  But Jason didn't really impress me as being anything but an egomaniac.
>=20
> >all times!! (and one of my favorites too), but I can=B4t  imagine Neil
> >playing "Msg. in a bottle".=20
> I mean!!!!
>=20
> I notice you don't mention Mark Brzecki, FYI, he's Big Country's drummer.
> Rounding out my Top Ten would have to be Keith Moon (He gets the
> Personality Award) and the greatest heavy-metal drummer of all time (IMO)=
,
> Peter Criss.
> _________________
> wee kimberleen
> "Love which is not madness is not love."
>=20
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (police) Drummers
Date: 12 Apr 1999 17:59:51 +0200

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I think I'm not the only one here that wanted to play drums after hearing
Stewart !!
It's funny because I don't know a lot of drummers you speak about, Neil
Peart,
Dave Abruzeeze or Roger Taylor. Advices are welcome.

But if you want to hear how far drums can go, you should
also listen to jazz drummers such as Jack DeJonnette,
Tony Williams, Roy Haynes or Elvin Jones. Drums sing with them
behind and nobody sounds nor swings like them.
I don't speak about people like Dave Weckl or Dennis Chambers,
they are monsters but to much "Drummers world championship", IMO.

BTW, do you know if there's any recording of Sting with Marvin Smitty
Smith, one of my favorite drummer (he plays phenomenal odd rythms
on Steve Coleman recordings) ? I know they played together a few times
during the Turtle period I think.

Vincent






Malav Trivedi <[e-mail]> on 12/04/99 17.42.56

Please respond to Malav Trivedi <[e-mail]>

cc:    (bcc: Vincent CADORET/FR/Dalet)



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Since I consider myself to be a decent "air drummer", I had to put my 2=

cents on this topic. Stewart to me is king. Moon and Bonham are excelle=
nt.
Neil Peart is also a genius.

But I don't know if any of you are Pearl Jam fans, but their second
drummer, Dave Abruzeeze (sp?) was fantastic. Too bad the rest of the ba=
nd
hated his politics. Then, recently on their "Live on Two Legs" CD, Pear=
l
Jam recruited ex-Soundgarden drummer Matt Cameron and he was absolutley=

phenomenal. His rolls and fills blew my mind.

Vinnie and Omar get alot of kudos too. Ginger Baker is another one that=

comes to mind. Although I didn't really enjoy the fact that he used a
double bass.

Take Care, Malav

On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Kimberly Hansing wrote:

> >Sting era. Omar Hakim is one of them, and of course MR VINNIE COLAIU=
TA!,
> Omar Hakim rules, man.  If you haven't heard "I Burn for You (Live)" =
then
> you just don't know.  ;-)
>
> >think that Roger Taylor could do that kind of jobs neither Joey Kram=
er,
and
> I saw Aerosmith in concert.  The man was over 40 and did some very
amazing
> things.  Hence my opinion.  For instance, I saw Bonham once, and Jaso=
n's
> dad John Bonham was a very impressive drummer, and in my Top Ten
favorites.
>  But Jason didn't really impress me as being anything but an egomania=
c.
>
> >all times!! (and one of my favorites too), but I can=B4t  imagine Ne=
il
> >playing "Msg. in a bottle".
> I mean!!!!
>
> I notice you don't mention Mark Brzecki, FYI, he's Big Country's drum=
mer.
> Rounding out my Top Ten would have to be Keith Moon (He gets the
> Personality Award) and the greatest heavy-metal drummer of all time
(IMO),
> Peter Criss.
> _________________
> wee kimberleen
> "Love which is not madness is not love."
>
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From: "Javier Olaizola" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (police) Drummers
Date: 12 Apr 1999 14:36:18 -0500

Marvin Smitty Smith played live with Sting for the SouthAmerican leg of the
NLTS tour (November/December 87)
There are videos of the Buenos Aires and RIO shows.

Javier Olaizola
Visit my list of videos at www.blue.icestorm.net/audio/main.htm
Write to me at [e-mail]

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Para: Malav Trivedi <[e-mail]>
CC: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Fecha: Lunes 12 de Abril de 1999 11:08 AM
Asunto: Re: (police) Drummers


>
>BTW, do you know if there's any recording of Sting with Marvin Smitty
>Smith, one of my favorite drummer (he plays phenomenal odd rythms
>on Steve Coleman recordings) ? I know they played together a few times
>during the Turtle period I think.
>
>Vincent
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Malav Trivedi <[e-mail]> on 12/04/99 17.42.56
>
>Please respond to Malav Trivedi <[e-mail]>
>
>To:   [e-mail]
>cc:    (bcc: Vincent CADORET/FR/Dalet)
>Subject:  (police) Drummers
>
>
>




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Date: 12 Apr 1999 21:31:10 +0200

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From: "juan galie" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (police) Another Pyramid and Hugh
Date: 09 Apr 1999 19:32:06 -0600

I agree completely. Mercury Falling already showed certain warning signs
that the whole Hugh Padham, Vinnie, Kenny, Dominic thing wasn't working too
well anymore. Hugh Padham in particular, seems to me to polish the music too
much, draining out much of the energy that the songs have and that the
musicians put into it, something that can only be appreciated when played
live. It would be a great combination to have the band sounding loud and
unrestrained together with perfect sounding studio-recorded singing from
Sting.
In contrast, Daniel Lanois seems to be able to let the sound flow and come
through with all its power onto the cd (peter gabriel/U2). I don't know if
his style and Sting's really combine though?
-----Mensaje original-----
De: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
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Fecha: Jueves, 08 de Abril de 1999 06:18
Asunto: (police) Another Pyramid and Hugh


>I was at my local video store last night (Blockbuster) with my
>girlfriend and as soon as I walked in the doors, I heard "Another
>Pyramid" wafting over the speakers. I immediately turned to my
>girlfriend (of over 4 years--and over that span she has heard, often to
>her dismay--since she's not much of a Sting or Police fan--practically
>every single Sting and Police tune in existence) and asked her, "Who's
>that?" (with an innocent expression of pure unknowing).
>
>She listened for a full 5 seconds and replied, shrugging, "Bob Marley?"
>She was shocked when I told her who was singing (I was trying to contain
>my laughter).
>
>Anyway, Elvis Costello will, no doubt, have a fit when he hears Sting's
>fake "Jamaican" enunciation once again.
>
>I imagine "Another Pyramid" would be a hit with most young
>kids/children. But the repetitive chorus (and the backing vocals), are
>in my opinion, just brutal. Actually, I've had similar complaints
>regarding much of Sting's current material; I find everything leading up
>to the chorus is pretty decent, but the chorus itself is often dull,
>repetitive and jarring. For example, "Something the Boy said", I think,
>contains an interesting arrangement, and the lines/music leading up to
>the chorus is interesting (reminds me a bit of Fortress). However, the
>chorus is repetitive (one line repeated over and over) and not
>exceptionally melodic.
>
>Also has anyone noticed that Sting's "sound" has not changed in any
>remarkable fashion over the past 2 (even 3) albums or so? Everyone has
>mentioned getting rid of certain musicians Sting's carried around with
>him, but I really think the problem lies with Hugh Padgam. This guy is a
>monument to 80s "pop" sound.
>
>    While he did produce, in part, The Soul Cages (I do not consider
>this cd Sting's best--but it does have its merits)--perhaps Sting's most
>overwrought work in terms of production, there are elements of that 80s
>sound, even on this cd. Dominic's guitar sound on "All This Time"
>doesn't differ much from the guitar sound heard on "Invisible Touch".
>And frankly, I don't think the production sound (especially
>instrumentation) has changed remarkably in the past 2 studio cds.
>
>If Sting's truly interested in progression and is opposed to the status
>quo--why not try a different producer, especially one that's not
>associated with the early to mid 80s pop music scene? I'm not suggesting
>Sting try loop freaks like William Orbit, Flood, or Bjork's boyfriend,
>but there are other decent producers besides Hugh Padgam.
>
>I know this email is going to get some backlash, but I don't hear too
>many people discussing Hugh (and I would genuinely be interested to read
>any comments in favour or opposed to him). I know Hugh had some success
>with The Police, Genesis and other artists--but I associate Hugh with
>the past (the 80's) and not the present or the future in pop music
>(hence, if one were to use Hugh over and over agains, I think one
>becomes stuck in a time warp).
>
>Regards,
>--
>Aaron Cole
>http://www.catalog.com/bartmon/comments/JamesSatoshi.htm
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> - former Yankees clubhouse man Pete Sheehy on Joe DiMaggio
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From: "beesting" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Have faith in Sting
Date: 12 Apr 1999 23:38:10 -0400

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From: Ruediger Hoeckel <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) New Sting release?/Tibetan Peace Garden opening/sale list
Date: 13 Apr 1999 00:35:10 -0700 (PDT)

Hi folks,

after ESPRIT's mail order advert of Sting's new album some weeks ago
I found the following position in a new catalogue of L&P per Post:

Japan  CD5   STING    BRAND NEW SINGLE (TBA)   release date: 14.04.99

Does anybody have more information?

Furthermore, the Dalai Lama will attend the opening of the Tibetan
Peace Garden in London on May 13th.
What I'd like to know is the EXACT TIME when this event will take
place:
in the afternoon, in the evening etc.?
Any information on this topic is welcome.

To come to an end I made a new sale list of some items I have to offer
(this time with even lower prices!).

If you'd like to have a copy please e-mail me privately
and tell me which version (Excel 95/text file) you prefer.
                 Rⁿdiger's sale list
                 [ ] Excel 95 sheet
                 [ ] text file

That's it for now.
Rⁿdiger
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From: Ruediger Hoeckel <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Re: Tibetan Peace Garden opening
Date: 13 Apr 1999 02:42:08 -0700 (PDT)

As I found out on the Free Tibet-site (http://www.freetibet.org)
the opening is scheduled for 9:30 AM.

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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Have faith in Hugh/Sound quality/bootlegs
Date: 13 Apr 1999 08:44:44 -0400

beesting wrote:

>Hugh P. has been good to his career, remember he produced TST his most
>successful album (as a solo artist) in the 1990's.

Hugh P has also produced Sting's two worst selling albums--The Soul
Cages and Mercury Falling. Frankly, commercial sales has never implied
quality; so this point is mute anyway (especially considering, as I
recall, you prefer Nothing Like the Sun, which was NOT produced by
Hugh).

Also, speaking of sound quality and production, has anyone noticed that
Sting's live material from Unplugged, The Soul Cages Concert, etc.,
sounds particularly bad (like there's no presence)? I don't think Hugh
had much to do with the production of the live material . . . But if you
compare the sound on those official live performances vs. Bring on the
Night--the difference seems pretty obvious (I'm not comparing
performances or set lists). I remember someone on this list explaining
the poor sound quality before; I'd be interested to read the explanation
again.

And finally, just to clarify, I am not opposed to bootlegging, MP3s,
VQFs, etc (I do think pirating is a far more serious offense). As the
person who originally replied, I believe that most hard-nosed fans will
buy the official release of their favourite artists on store shelved
cds--that MP3s and bootlegs are not a deterrent (perhaps they are to the
casual fan; I don't know; I can only speak for myself here). But I do
think it's wrong to attempt to profit from live MP3s and bootlegs (the
artist wrote the music and performed it; the professional bootlegger
didn't). My belief is that fans should share this stuff with other fans
for the love of the music and not for profit.

Regards,
--
Aaron Cole
http://www.catalog.com/bartmon/comments/JamesSatoshi.htm
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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Another Pyramid and Hugh
Date: 13 Apr 1999 09:04:46 -0400

juan galie wrote:

>Hugh Padham in particular, seems to me to polish the music too much, draining
>out much of the energy that the songs have and that the musicians put into it,
>something that can only be appreciated when played live.

That's a very good observation, and basically sums up the same complaint I've
had concerning his production (I think Hugh served his purpose in the 80s). On
Mercury Falling, there's really only two songs I can stand listening to: The
Hounds of Winter, and I Hung My Head. When I first heard, "You Still Touch Me",
I wanted to vomit. But the live version on TFI Friday sounds vastly superior
(rawer) in spite of the fact the arrangement didn't really change that much (the
live version of Lithium Sunset, changed a lot on tour, as well as other songs).

Regards,
--
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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Have faith in Sting
Date: 13 Apr 1999 09:24:59 -0400

beesting wrote:

> I was amazed to see so much negative postings about what Sting

Don't fret so much . . . ;-) I don't think anyone on this list hates
Sting's music. Far from it. I think everyone on this list loves his
contribution to music (whether it be with The Police or as a solo
artist). There's no point in analyzing something one considers to be
trite, pathetic, and worthless. For instance, I wouldn't spend my time
wondering about whether or not Hugh Padgam is going to produce the next
Spice Girls cd--and how that would affect their already "polished"
sound.

I'm hard on Sting because I like his music so much (I'm just as hard on
all the other musicians I like; this goes in hand with my attitude of
attempting not to look at celebs through rose-coloured glasses).

Regards,
--
Aaron Cole
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From: David Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (police) Another Pyramid and Hugh
Date: 13 Apr 1999 14:30:15 +0100

Whilst I am in complete agreement with you all about the somewhat sterile
sound that the production has, I have to make this point: I really don't
think Sting would stand aside while someone else destroyed the energy in the
perfomances unless he was actually happy with the outcome himself.

Cheers

Dave

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> Reply To:     The Webslinger
> Sent:     13 April 1999 14:04
> To:     [e-mail]
> Subject:     Re: (police) Another Pyramid and Hugh
>
> juan galie wrote:
>
> >Hugh Padham in particular, seems to me to polish the music too much,
> draining
> >out much of the energy that the songs have and that the musicians put
> into it,
> >something that can only be appreciated when played live.
>
> That's a very good observation, and basically sums up the same complaint
> I've
> had concerning his production (I think Hugh served his purpose in the
> 80s). On
> Mercury Falling, there's really only two songs I can stand listening to:
> The
> Hounds of Winter, and I Hung My Head. When I first heard, "You Still Touch
> Me",
> I wanted to vomit. But the live version on TFI Friday sounds vastly
> superior
> (rawer) in spite of the fact the arrangement didn't really change that
> much (the
> live version of Lithium Sunset, changed a lot on tour, as well as other
> songs).
>
> Regards,
> --
> Aaron Cole
> http://www.catalog.com/bartmon/comments/JamesSatoshi.htm
> "When he walked into the clubhouse, the lights flickered."
>  - former Yankees clubhouse man Pete Sheehy on Joe DiMaggio
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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: producers [was (police) Another Pyramid and Hugh]
Date: 13 Apr 1999 09:45:10 -0400

David Murray wrote:

> Whilst I am in complete agreement with you all about the somewhat sterile
> sound that the production has, I have to make this point: I really don't
> think Sting would stand aside while someone else destroyed the energy in the
> perfomances unless he was actually happy with the outcome himself.

You might be right. Since you believe the production is "somewhat sterile", and
since you suggest Sting probably wants it that way, one might be forced to
conclude that you probably think Sting got it wrong this time.

This begs the question to what extent does a producer affect the musician's
music? Would it make a difference, then, if Sting, say, worked with an
experimental guy like Brian Eno--or another U2 fave, Daniel Lanois? Would Sting
argue with them and tell them to make his sound more "polished"--the way Hugh
does?

What producer would you like to see work with Sting?

Wondering,
--
Aaron Cole
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From: Liz Belmont <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) new year's eve
Date: 13 Apr 1999 09:45:41 -0400 (EDT)

According to Liz Smith's column this morning (Liz is a gossip columnist
here in NY), Sting will be playing the Javits Center in NYC on new year's
eve 1999.

He was also seen having a meal with Stevie Wonder, who will be appearing
on Sting's new album.

That's the latest!

liz




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From: Ethan Taylor Sellers <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) William Orbit w/ Peter Gabriel
Date: 13 Apr 1999 09:00:03 -0500 (CDT)


Someone wrote:

> William Orbit has never produced or worked with Peter Gabriel.

This isn't true.  William Orbit worked with Gabriel on parts for the
_Us_ album.  I think that the only part of their collaboration which made
it to the disc was on one song - the bridge to "Love to Be Loved", if
memory serves.

Orbit has a track ("Paranoia, My Friend") on _Plus from Us_, a compilation
CD put together on Real World that collects tracks from the various
artists who contributed to the _Us_ album.

Ethan




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From: "Steve Agovino" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Drummers
Date: 13 Apr 1999 10:13:55 -0400

OK, seeing as how we're talking about drummers here, and me being one for about
11 1/2 years, I think I'm going to put my $0.02 here...  :p

Stewart Copeland - Do I really have to put anything here?  :p  Notoroius for
his hi-hat, ride, and crash cymbal work.  Loves to throw in syncopation from
time to time.

Vinnie Colaiuta - Rated "Modern Drummer" Best All-Around drummer last year
(personally, I feel that they're are better ones).  He's quite fluent in a
variety of time signatures (e.g. 6/8, 5/4, 5/8, 7/8, 9/8) and has some sweet
fills.

Neil Peart (Rush) - A percussion god.  Very technical, and *very* precise.  And
the man plays just as well live.

John Bonham (Led Zeppelin) - Pretty good, one of the best classic rock drummers
of all time, but Peart's techniques still beats some of his raw rhythms.

Nick Mason (Pink Floyd) - I always liked that intro to "Money" that he does on
the toms... but that's just me.  :p

Dave Abbruzzese (Pearl Jam) - I thought he was pretty damn good when I was in
high school... but then I discovered Peart.  :p  Watch for when MTV reruns
their Unplugged special; he's pretty fast, but I personally feel that he
crashes too much.

(Along with Abbruzzese is Soundgarden's Matt Cameron and Nirvana's Dave Grohl -
I don't feel like writing separate stuff about them)


As far as Sting and his music are concerned, I miss the Manu Katche days
(...Nothing Like The Sun and The Soul Cages).  He had style... although I could
never figure out where some of his rhythms came from.  Saw him on an SNL rerun
about a week ago w/Peter Gabriel (his new musical home) as the musical guest
and the man hasn't changed - they did a kick-ass version of "In Your Eyes."

But I'm rambling now, and my $0.02 is just about spent.  :p

You know, if Sting ever decided to restructure his band again, I'd love to see
Miller on guitar, Sancious on keyboards, and Manu Katche back on drums... but
apparently, Sting has quarreled with some of them in the past, so chances are
that the only place we'll hear their work is on the albums of the past.

(Come to think of it... Branford Marsalis and the Memphis Horns should be
permanent additions to the band)  :p

-Steve

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From: David Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: producers [was (police) Another Pyramid and Hugh]
Date: 13 Apr 1999 15:19:12 +0100

I actually think that a few songs of Ghost in the Machine sounded sterile
too and for that reason I can only conclude Sting must like what Hugh
Padgham creates. I wouldn't be so bold as to say that Sting got it wrong
though; The "somewhat sterile sound", as I put it, is not really a
criticism, more an observation. There are many artists who create a much
more clinical sound in the studio than in real life and Sting is just one of
them. The music often sounds as though it is highly compressed, losing a lot
of the live dynamics.

Sting has often said that his albums are just blueprints of the songs which
are developed further, and experimented with on tour. I generally buy the
album, listen to it until it's worn out, see him live, seek out a live
performance, listen to the live performance lots and rarely to the studio
one. But that's just me!


With regards to other producers, I have always liked what I have heard from
John Leckie. Not, however, for Oasis, but rather for the work with The Dukes
of Stratosphear (XTC in disguise) and Radiohead. I believe he manages to
capture the dynamics of the music very well.

Just my opinions.

Cheers

Dave

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> From:     The Webslinger[SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Reply To:     The Webslinger
> Sent:     13 April 1999 14:45
> To:     [e-mail]
> Subject:     Re: producers [was (police) Another Pyramid and Hugh]
>
> David Murray wrote:
>
> > Whilst I am in complete agreement with you all about the somewhat
> sterile
> > sound that the production has, I have to make this point: I really don't
> > think Sting would stand aside while someone else destroyed the energy in
> the
> > perfomances unless he was actually happy with the outcome himself.
>
> You might be right. Since you believe the production is "somewhat
> sterile", and
> since you suggest Sting probably wants it that way, one might be forced to
> conclude that you probably think Sting got it wrong this time.
>
> This begs the question to what extent does a producer affect the
> musician's
> music? Would it make a difference, then, if Sting, say, worked with an
> experimental guy like Brian Eno--or another U2 fave, Daniel Lanois? Would
> Sting
> argue with them and tell them to make his sound more "polished"--the way
> Hugh
> does?
>
> What producer would you like to see work with Sting?
>
> Wondering,
> --
> Aaron Cole
> http://www.catalog.com/bartmon/comments/JamesSatoshi.htm
> "When he walked into the clubhouse, the lights flickered."
>  - former Yankees clubhouse man Pete Sheehy on Joe DiMaggio
>
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (police) RE: producers and sounds
Date: 13 Apr 1999 16:34:25 +0200


Concerning the sound, do you listen to music with really HIFI systems
and not with japanese stuff like Sony ?

I discovered my ears again when I switch to a good Hifi set a few months
ago.
The difference is huge.

Vince



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From: David Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) RE: producers and sounds
Date: 13 Apr 1999 15:52:31 +0100

I'm afraid we are not talking about quality! I have no argument with the
quality of the later Police and Sting music - it is exceptional. That does
not mean, however, that it really captures the energy, enthusiasm and
dynamics that one hears at a live perfomance.

Cheers

Dave


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> Sent:     13 April 1999 15:34
> To:     David Murray
> Cc:     [e-mail]; 'The Webslinger'
> Subject:     RE: producers and sounds
>
>
> Concerning the sound, do you listen to music with really HIFI systems
> and not with japanese stuff like Sony ?
>
> I discovered my ears again when I switch to a good Hifi set a few months
> ago.
> The difference is huge.
>
> Vince
>
>

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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) sound systems
Date: 13 Apr 1999 11:11:29 -0400

[e-mail] wrote:

> Concerning the sound, do you listen to music with really HIFI systems
> and not with japanese stuff like Sony ?

I've had the opportunity to listen to a lot of my favourite music on a
$10,000 system (not mine--couldn't possibly afford that much). However, your
comment about Sony seems a bit misleading. Sony does make very good, very
expensive, high-end systems (but once you get into that price range, it's
probably better, admittingly, to go with a European brand).

I'd imagine, within the next ten years, musicians will begin releasing stuff
on DVD (because it's supposedly difficult to make digitial copies of
commercial material due to the watermarks on the disc; also, the sound
quality is better and you can fit more onto one), which will force everyone
to pretty much upgrade their stereo systems anyway.

Can you imagine listening to the Soul Cages in six channel digital sound?
You could probably really appreciate (in spite of my criticism) Hugh's
production and atmosphere on that cd. Some have argued though that past cds
were really meant for 2 channel stereo sound, but I'd still be interested in
a six channel version.

Regards,
--
Aaron Cole
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From: Malav Trivedi <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: producers [was (police) Another Pyramid and Hugh]
Date: 13 Apr 1999 11:38:27 -0400 (EDT)



Personally, I think it would be interesting to hear Sting working with
Nigel Godrich. Nigel produced Radiohead's OK Computer (one of the best
albums of the decade, IMO) and Beck's Mutations. It would be a totally
different sound than normal Sting. I am not saying it would be good, just
interesting.

Take Care, Malav



On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, The Webslinger wrote:

> David Murray wrote:
>
> > Whilst I am in complete agreement with you all about the somewhat sterile
> > sound that the production has, I have to make this point: I really don't
> > think Sting would stand aside while someone else destroyed the energy in the
> > perfomances unless he was actually happy with the outcome himself.
>
> You might be right. Since you believe the production is "somewhat sterile", and
> since you suggest Sting probably wants it that way, one might be forced to
> conclude that you probably think Sting got it wrong this time.
>
> This begs the question to what extent does a producer affect the musician's
> music? Would it make a difference, then, if Sting, say, worked with an
> experimental guy like Brian Eno--or another U2 fave, Daniel Lanois? Would Sting
> argue with them and tell them to make his sound more "polished"--the way Hugh
> does?
>
> What producer would you like to see work with Sting?
>
> Wondering,
> --
> Aaron Cole
> http://www.catalog.com/bartmon/comments/JamesSatoshi.htm
> "When he walked into the clubhouse, the lights flickered."
>  - former Yankees clubhouse man Pete Sheehy on Joe DiMaggio
>
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Subject: Re: (police) sound systems
Date: 13 Apr 1999 18:09:47 +0200


Hi Aaron,

Just a word, because I've discovered recently what Hi-Fidelity is.

I have nothing special against Sony nor Japanese brand at al. The point
is that you can find better Hifi products regarding the sound quality for
the
same price whatever the price range except the lowest one perhaps
(I think of Rega, YBA, Teac, Arcam, Nad, Creek, Apertura, Triangle, etc.
that's the only brands I know, but there are many others).
Go in a good Hifi shop with an auditorium, bring your favorite CD,
and you'll be surprised of what you'll hear for reasonnable prices.

Up to now DVD isn't as good as the CD and digital isn't a magic word
for good sound restitution whatever the number of channels is.
An incredible numbers of parameters should be taken into account,
from the quality of the laser diode (in order to avoid bit reading
mistakes)
to the speakers and the cables.

That's why a lot of home cinema systems are not very good : you can have
speakers everywhere in the room and dolby XYZ surround + filters or
whatever
and what is the result ? The bass are completly unformed and too
heavy and you hear no details. If you've got a good Hifi system,
you'll hear the contact of the chord on the bass fret (I don't know
why I take this example (-; !!), the breath of the singer, the mouth
on the saxophone or the brush on the drum skin. And that's part of the
music !!

You know, when I hear remastered recordings of 60's jazz sessions,
from Miles Davis or John Coltrane for example, I love the sound.
It's still great !! So I think that even in 30 years, on a good hifi
system,
Soul Cages will still be a pleasure !!

Vince









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[e-mail] wrote:

> Concerning the sound, do you listen to music with really HIFI systems
> and not with japanese stuff like Sony ?

I've had the opportunity to listen to a lot of my favourite music on a
$10,000 system (not mine--couldn't possibly afford that much). However,
your
comment about Sony seems a bit misleading. Sony does make very good, very
expensive, high-end systems (but once you get into that price range, it's
probably better, admittingly, to go with a European brand).

I'd imagine, within the next ten years, musicians will begin releasing
stuff
on DVD (because it's supposedly difficult to make digitial copies of
commercial material due to the watermarks on the disc; also, the sound
quality is better and you can fit more onto one), which will force everyone
to pretty much upgrade their stereo systems anyway.

Can you imagine listening to the Soul Cages in six channel digital sound?
You could probably really appreciate (in spite of my criticism) Hugh's
production and atmosphere on that cd. Some have argued though that past cds
were really meant for 2 channel stereo sound, but I'd still be interested
in
a six channel version.

Regards,
--
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From: Rob Johnson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Sting w/David Sanborn
Date: 13 Apr 1999 12:45:30 -0400

This might be old news to all of you, I haven't been keeping up with the
list lately, but I noticed yesterday in my local Camelot music store
that Sting appears on David Sanborn's new release (I think it is titled
"Inside").  Anyway, Sting does an interesting arrangement of "Ain't No
Sunshine" on it and I thought I'd pass the info along.


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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) sound systems
Date: 13 Apr 1999 13:08:44 -0400

[e-mail] wrote:

> Up to now DVD isn't as good as the CD and digital isn't a magic word
> for good sound restitution whatever the number of channels is.

There is a debate raging on right now about this amongst audiophiles, but in
all honesty, I have yet to hear superior audio from a cd than from new
dvd-audio (I appreciate what you're saying though).

from http://www.stereophile.com/shownews.cgi?388

            DVD players will offer better performance
            at lower prices due to the inherently better
            resolution of DVD's high sampling and bit
            rates. High performance on a budget will
            increasingly become the rule rather than the
            exception, as will the convergence of audio
            with home-theater systems as DVD becomes
            the dominant format---a process that will
            take years. Sony plans to roll out a $799
            DVD carousel changer later this year.

There's also an interesting article found at
http://www.stereophile.com/shownews.cgi?420

Most insiders expect DVD-audio (or some variant) to become the defacto standard
in the future (it may take awhile, though). Again, I think the Soul Cages would
sound very, very good in this format.

Regards,
--
Aaron Cole
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From: Jason Startt <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: producers [was (police) Another Pyramid and Hugh]
Date: 13 Apr 1999 13:29:01 -0400


>Sting has often said that his albums are just blueprints of the songs which
>are developed further, and experimented with on tour. I generally buy the
>album, listen to it until it's worn out, see him live, seek out a live
>performance, listen to the live performance lots and rarely to the studio
>one. But that's just me!
>
>

Actually, that's me too.  That quote by sting, (I think it's from the Sting
uplugged video) is one of the reasons why I like him so much.  I LOVE
getting new live sting, because the music is so much more thoughtful than
the studio releases.  Plus, that live sound is very personal.

On the other hand, 'The wild wild sea' is one of my favorite studio songs.
I think it's pretty damn good live, but there's just something about the
effects on the studio version that gives me chills every time I listen to it.

Cheers,

Jason

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From: Jason Startt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Drummers
Date: 13 Apr 1999 13:39:30 -0400

With everybody putting in their two cents, I thought for sure someone would
mention Carter Beauford of the Dave Matthews Band.

I got 3rd row seats to DMB, and my eyes were fixed on Carter the whole
time!  I simply don't know how he does it.  His rolls are so fast, his
fill-ins are very intricate, and he has one of the fastest bass peddles
around ( I've even heard rumors that he does it w/ one foot, no double bass
peddle!).

He was a joy to watch, and I love listening to him.

Best regards,
Jason



At 11:42 AM 4/12/99 -0400, you wrote:
>
>Since I consider myself to be a decent "air drummer", I had to put my 2
>cents on this topic. Stewart to me is king. Moon and Bonham are excellent.
>Neil Peart is also a genius.=20
>
>But I don't know if any of you are Pearl Jam fans, but their second
>drummer, Dave Abruzeeze (sp?) was fantastic. Too bad the rest of the band
>hated his politics. Then, recently on their "Live on Two Legs" CD, Pearl
>Jam recruited ex-Soundgarden drummer Matt Cameron and he was absolutley
>phenomenal. His rolls and fills blew my mind.=20
>
>Vinnie and Omar get alot of kudos too. Ginger Baker is another one that
>comes to mind. Although I didn't really enjoy the fact that he used a
>double bass.=20
>
>Take Care, Malav
>
>On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Kimberly Hansing wrote:
>
>> >Sting era. Omar Hakim is one of them, and of course MR VINNIE COLAIUTA!,
>> Omar Hakim rules, man.  If you haven't heard "I Burn for You (Live)" then
>> you just don't know.  ;-)
>>=20
>> >think that Roger Taylor could do that kind of jobs neither Joey Kramer,
and
>> I saw Aerosmith in concert.  The man was over 40 and did some very=
 amazing
>> things.  Hence my opinion.  For instance, I saw Bonham once, and Jason's
>> dad John Bonham was a very impressive drummer, and in my Top Ten=
 favorites.
>>  But Jason didn't really impress me as being anything but an egomaniac.
>>=20
>> >all times!! (and one of my favorites too), but I can=B4t  imagine Neil
>> >playing "Msg. in a bottle".=20
>> I mean!!!!
>>=20
>> I notice you don't mention Mark Brzecki, FYI, he's Big Country's drummer.
>> Rounding out my Top Ten would have to be Keith Moon (He gets the
>> Personality Award) and the greatest heavy-metal drummer of all time=
 (IMO),
>> Peter Criss.
>> _________________
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>> "Love which is not madness is not love."
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From: Jason Startt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) sound systems
Date: 13 Apr 1999 13:41:10 -0400

Has anyone had much luck with Q-sound?  I popped in the Soul Cages on my
dad's 1960's Sansui reciever and during 'Why Should I Cry For You'  I kept
hearing the water drop sound effect (that repeats during the whole song)
appear to move back and forth (not right and left).  I always that it was a
pretty neat trick, but I had to stand in just the right spot for it to
happen.  Anyone else had the same or similar experiences?

-Jason



At 11:11 AM 4/13/99 -0400, you wrote:
>[e-mail] wrote:
>
>> Concerning the sound, do you listen to music with really HIFI systems
>> and not with japanese stuff like Sony ?
>
>I've had the opportunity to listen to a lot of my favourite music on a
>$10,000 system (not mine--couldn't possibly afford that much). However, your
>comment about Sony seems a bit misleading. Sony does make very good, very
>expensive, high-end systems (but once you get into that price range, it's
>probably better, admittingly, to go with a European brand).
>
>I'd imagine, within the next ten years, musicians will begin releasing stuff
>on DVD (because it's supposedly difficult to make digitial copies of
>commercial material due to the watermarks on the disc; also, the sound
>quality is better and you can fit more onto one), which will force everyone
>to pretty much upgrade their stereo systems anyway.
>
>Can you imagine listening to the Soul Cages in six channel digital sound?
>You could probably really appreciate (in spite of my criticism) Hugh's
>production and atmosphere on that cd. Some have argued though that past cds
>were really meant for 2 channel stereo sound, but I'd still be interested in
>a six channel version.
>
>Regards,
>--
>Aaron Cole
>http://www.catalog.com/bartmon/comments/JamesSatoshi.htm
>"When he walked into the clubhouse, the lights flickered."
> - former Yankees clubhouse man Pete Sheehy on Joe DiMaggio
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From: Javier Macias B <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Drummers
Date: 12 Apr 1999 11:10:12 PDT

Man, u have mentioned some names of the best drummers!! Jack D. (u said i=
t, he sut make drums=20
sing), Tony Williams (who is the source of inspiration of many, many, man=
y drumers such as Dave=20
Weckl or VInnie Colaiuta, and Dennis Chambers!!), well and Roy Haynes, we=
ll he is just the guy that can=20
u can say a natural born drummer! hehe, he was born with a pair of drumst=
icks in his hands!

And nope, I don{t know of any recording of "Smity" Smith plating with Sti=
ng, but hey, u r right, he has =20
great odd times songs!...=20

And well and if we r talking about great drummers, well we can talk about=
 Bill Bruford, the dummer of=20
YES and King Crimson, I really don=B4t have words to say what he does whe=
n he sits behind a drumset... =20

And yes, as Malav says, Abruzeeze and Cameron are two of the great player=
s of the new era, as Mike=20
Portnoy of Dream Theater.

see ya!

Javier :-)

On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:59:51 +0200 [e-mail] wrote:

> From:[e-mail]> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:59:51 +0200
> Subject: Re: (police) Drummers
> To: Malav Trivedi <[e-mail]>
> Cc: [e-mail]
>=20
>=20
> I think I'm not the only one here that wanted to play drums after heari=
ng
> Stewart !!
> It's funny because I don't know a lot of drummers you speak about, Neil
> Peart,
> Dave Abruzeeze or Roger Taylor. Advices are welcome.
>=20
> But if you want to hear how far drums can go, you should
> also listen to jazz drummers such as Jack DeJonnette,
> Tony Williams, Roy Haynes or Elvin Jones. Drums sing with them
> behind and nobody sounds nor swings like them.
> I don't speak about people like Dave Weckl or Dennis Chambers,
> they are monsters but to much "Drummers world championship", IMO.
>=20
> BTW, do you know if there's any recording of Sting with Marvin Smitty
> Smith, one of my favorite drummer (he plays phenomenal odd rythms
> on Steve Coleman recordings) ? I know they played together a few times
> during the Turtle period I think.
>=20
> Vincent
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Malav Trivedi <[e-mail]> on 12/04/99 17.42.56
>=20
> Please respond to Malav Trivedi <[e-mail]>
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From: "Javier Macias B." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: Message in a Bottle
Date: 12 Apr 1999 09:43:01 PDT



>Omar Hakim rules, man.  If you haven't heard "I Burn for You (Live)" then
you just don't know.  ;-)
I think Omar is a grea drummer! I love his work in "Bring on the night", he is just GREAT! but I still prefer the work of MR
Vinnie Colaiuta.

>think that Roger Taylor could do that kind of jobs neither Joey Kramer, and
>I saw Aerosmith in concert.  The man was over 40 and did some very amazing
>things.  Hence my opinion.  For instance, I saw Bonham once, and Jason's
>dad John Bonham was a very impressive drummer, and in my Top Ten favorites.
 >But Jason didn't really impress me as being anything but an egomaniac.

Yeah maybe Joey can do "amazing" things in his field, but I cant think of him playing Police songs, I think (in my very
personal point of view), that he is not as versatile as Omar or Vinnie. The same thing is with Roger Taylor, I admire his
job in Queen, but I think that he is just excellent in his own field.
Yeah, Bonham is the "father" of all rock (and some jazz drummers) of this time period!, he is one of the most creative,
versatile, and incredible drummers of all time!!

Well if u mention your favorite ones (and I will always respect your points of view :-, well my first five drummers would be:
MR. Vinnie Colaiuta (versatile, creative, wow! this man is just a genius!), Dennis Chambers (just great!!), Terry Bozzio
(very creative man), Stewart (what can I say???), and Steve Smith (plays rock great, and jazz just excellent!), and well,
altough they are not with us right now,  my words cant describe the work of two masters of drumming, Buddy Rich and
mr swing, Gene Krupa, both, RIP....

>I notice you don't mention Mark Brzecki, FYI, he's Big Country's drummer.
>Rounding out my Top Ten would have to be Keith Moon (He gets the
>Personality Award) and the greatest heavy-metal drummer of all time (IMO),
>Peter Criss.

Well Peter Criss, just dont enter in my favorite ones... :-)

BYE!

Javier :-)
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Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: Message in a Bottle
Date: 10 Apr 1999 21:09:34 +0200

Kimberly Hansing schreef:

> >> P.S. I always thought the studio version had several drum tracks on it and
> >> that was why Stewart never recreated it live.
> >
> >Bite your tounge!
> >He never recreated any studio drmming live.
> >The studio drums on "Message" is possible, but only is your name is Stewart
> >Copeland.
>
> See, all this time I've been naively assuming that the different drumming
> was just part of Stewart's genius... *s*  IMHO I can only think of two
> other drummers in the whole world who even *begin* to approach his level of

Just curious: Phil Collins and Roger Taylor? Or anyone else?

bye,

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Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: Message in a Bottle
Date: 10 Apr 1999 21:09:34 +0200

Kimberly Hansing schreef:

> >> P.S. I always thought the studio version had several drum tracks on it and
> >> that was why Stewart never recreated it live.
> >
> >Bite your tounge!
> >He never recreated any studio drmming live.
> >The studio drums on "Message" is possible, but only is your name is Stewart
> >Copeland.
>
> See, all this time I've been naively assuming that the different drumming
> was just part of Stewart's genius... *s*  IMHO I can only think of two
> other drummers in the whole world who even *begin* to approach his level of

Just curious: Phil Collins and Roger Taylor? Or anyone else?

bye,

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Subject: Re: (police) SOTW- Message
Date: 10 Apr 1999 21:09:22 +0200

track schreef:

> (..) My tit bit about it is that on the last line sting sings " sending out
> an
> S.O.Blue" which commes from an old add for "ESSO blue" petroleum I guess.

sendin' out an s.o. blue? on which recording of  'message' does sting
sing
that? i only know: sendin'out an s.o.S...

bye,

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From: "jemmons" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Sting tours?
Date: 09 Apr 1999 13:24:23 +0000

Hi,

    I was just wondering if anyone knows anything about Sting touring
this summer. I live in Ohio, and one of the venues here has Sting listed
as appearing over the summer. Is Sting touring this summer? Does anyone
know about him comming to Ohio specifically?

Thanks for your time,
Maria

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Date: 13 Apr 1999 21:32:40 +0200

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particular item you need to complete your collection!
If you collect for many years you probably build up a whole ring of
friends who collect too and keep you updated!
To help you  to create or even increase your 'ring of collector-friends'
I've created 2 forums!

Wanted Sting/The Police Items
If you look for that special Sting or Police item
Set Sale/Auction Sting/The Police Items
If you intend to sell parts of your collection put an ad here!

There are 2 more forums, but they are not for collectors but more
regular!!
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From: Lou Richards <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Sting / Trudie Pic
Date: 13 Apr 1999 15:11:32 -0500

Hi everybody! Check out this month's In Style magazine for a cool pic of Sting and Trudie at the Oscars. The focus is on Trudie's footwear. Later-

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From: "jemmons" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Re: police-digest V2 #267
Date: 13 Apr 1999 16:20:09 +0000

The Columbus Chamber of Commerce in Columbus, Ohio states that Sting
will be performing in Columbus this summer. Any word on this? Thanks.


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From: Timo Saajoranta <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) IMAX - "The Living Sea"
Date: 13 Apr 1999 23:26:13 +0300

At 08:52 8.4.1999 +1000, you wrote:
>I live in Melbourne, Australia, which is where I saw the movie.  The web
>site is :www.imax.com.au.
>There are also IMAX cinemas in Sydney, Adelaide and Brisbane.
>Lara
>

Hi guys!

Sorry for being little late, but I've been away for a while. Anyway, I was
in Dublin last August, and they were playing The Living Sea over there
also. Unfortunately I didn't have enough time to go and see it...
By the way - aren't there any Irish people on the list???

Cheers for everyone!

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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Javier_Mac=EDas_B=2E=22?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Drummers
Date: 13 Apr 1999 14:57:26 -0600

I would like to see the TST band again, I love the album , and I love the
things they did live, Mr Colaiuta on drums, Sancious on keyb. and of course
MR dominic Miller on guitars.... and yes, Brandford Marsalis should be a
permanent addition to the band!

javier :-)
>
>You know, if Sting ever decided to restructure his band again, I'd love to=
 see
>Miller on guitar, Sancious on keyboards, and Manu Katche back on drums...=
 but
>apparently, Sting has quarreled with some of them in the past, so chances=
 are
>that the only place we'll hear their work is on the albums of the past.
>
>(Come to think of it... Branford Marsalis and the Memphis Horns should be
>permanent additions to the band)  :p
>
>-Steve
>
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From: "M. Renata Peters" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) list owner
Date: 13 Apr 1999 20:18:47 -0300

Hi there!
Does anybody happens to know the email of the list owner?
Thanks a lot,
Renata


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (police) Have faith in Sting
Date: 13 Apr 1999 19:34:48 EDT

In a message dated 4/12/99 8:41:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<<   I do agree that Mercury Falling was not his best record, however, you
cannot expect that every album Sting makes will make us all happy.  Hugh P.
has been good to his career, remember he produced TST his most successful
album (as a solo artist) in the 1990's.  Sting still has a vision in his
music, and don't worry he will be around for a while.  Whether he will
produce million selling pop albums is another question.  I think Sting will
eventually produce records not for the sake of album sales, but for a more
selected audience.
  >>

I tend do agree here... for me, i am not a musician, but an artist and
poet... and i find most of his songs like a work of art or either inspiring
or comical poems... he is a pied piper for alot of his fans and i think that
most will follow , even if his music does not make leaps and bounds
everytime...  his words, the sounds of his music... tends to be a soul
saver... or at least a good sense of humor and release for it...  just enjoy
and appreciate what he has to offer... no matter what.. youre still going to
buy his albums..and he has every right to experiment with music or just play
the same ol stuff.. cause sometimes thats what works the best....  and dont
worry... artists go through their phases of inspiration... maybe MF was not
one of his greatest ones... maybe the next one or the one after that will
be....  just give sting a break!   {hehe}

that's all folks!
Sarah
"let your soul be your pilot, let your soul guide youu well"

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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) list owner
Date: 13 Apr 1999 21:01:31 -0400

"M. Renata Peters" wrote:

> Does anybody happens to know the email of the list owner?

His name is Pete Ashdown. His email address is [e-mail]
(this may be of some assistance to others on the list).

Regards,
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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) (mildly off-topic) Help Save the Rainforest
Date: 13 Apr 1999 21:12:03 -0400

Since Sting champions this cause, and since some of you care . . .  This
was forwarded to me, and it's not a hoax:

I am sending the following letter to Home Depot after
discovering that it contracts with suppliers who make
products from rainforests.

If you have the time and/or the inclination, please
use the letter below to state your objections.  You
can mail using their homepage at www.homedepot.com.
Snail mail tends to be more effective for petitions, but . . .

By all means, tell all your friends.

Take care, Diana

April 9, 1999

The Home Depot,
Attn: CEO Arthur Blank, President,
2727 Paces Ferry Road,
Atlanta, GA 30339.

Dear Mr. Blank:

I am a customer of yours and was dismayed to learn
that you contract with suppliers who support the
destruction of rainforests.

Please immediately cancel all contracts with the
three companies that threaten the Great Bear
Rainforest: Sauder/Interfor, Doman and West Fraser.
This includes ensuring that they are not being
supplied with wood derived from these 3 companies'
logging operation through wholesalers, distributors,
remanufacturers or any other means.

Please phase out all products that contribute to the
destruction of ancient forest products anywhere in
the world.

Please join the US group of buyers committed to
purchasing independently-certified wood products (the
Certified Forest Products Council) and phase in
non-destructive wood products.

Sincerely,
--
Aaron Cole
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From: Holly Murdock <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) SOTW: "Love is Stronger Than Justice"
Date: 14 Apr 1999 00:06:30 -0600

The Song of the Week is "Love Is Stronger Than Justice (The Munificent
Seven)" from TEN SUMMONER'S TALES.

"I feel very happy and content at the moment and I want to make a record
that reflects that contentment, and didn't want to write about myself
necessarily.  So I made up stories about other people, sometimes
frivolous, sometimes romantic, sometimes funny.  I say the album [TST]
isn't about me but I have a feeling that because I wrote it in this
objective way, there's probably more about me on this record than I
perhaps planned for."
- Sting, "VH1 to 1", 1993

               Love Is Stronger Than Justice
               (The Munificent Seven)

               This is a story of seven brothers
               We had a the same father but different mothers
               We keep together like a family should
               Roaming the country for the common good
               It came to pass one fateful day
               We found ourselves down Mexico way
               The town, the mayor, the PTA
               Pleading on their knees with us all to stay
               We'd only stopped for a few burritos
               But they told us of the trouble with los banditos
               A poor little town in need of aid
               My brothers and me had never been afraid
               The age of chivalry is not dead
               Lonesome nights in a cowboy bed
               There'd be a bride for every man
               Who chased away the evil gang

               Love is stronger than justice
               Love is thicker than blood
               Love is is stronger than justice
               Love is a big fat river in flood

               The outcome was predictable
               Our banditos were despicable
               Of blood we lost a dozen litres
               A small price to pay for las senoritas
               The town mayor was happy but his face was glum
               The maidens numbered only one
               But there weren't seven brides for seven brothers
               I knew I had to get rid of the others

               Love is stronger than justice
               Love is thicker than blood
               Love is stronger than justice
               Love is the big fat river in flood

               Mother told me I was the clever one
               The seventh son of a seventh son
               It all ended so happily
               I settled down with the family
               I look forward to a better day
               But ethical stuff never got in my way
               And though there used to be brothers seven
               The other six are singing in heaven

               Love is stronger than justice
               Love is thicker than blood
               Love is stronger than justice
               Love is a big fat river in flood

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From: "M. van Santen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: "Love is Stronger Than Justice"
Date: 14 Apr 1999 08:32:31 +0200

> The Song of the Week is "Love Is Stronger Than Justice (The Munificent
> Seven)" from TEN SUMMONER'S TALES.

Hi all
Although it's a nice tune
I always hated it because of
"
               The maidens numbered only one
               But there weren't seven brides for seven brothers
               I knew I had to get rid of the others
"
Can't stand the idea
these guys living and working together, and then
one of them kills all the others because
of some girl

ggggrrrrrr

but maybe I miss the "point"

my 2 E-cts
magda


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From: Benjamin VINCENT <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Re: Cheb Mami
Date: 14 Apr 1999 16:33:05 +0200

Hello Markus, hello everyone,

I saw Taratata as well. Cheb Mami confirmed himself he has recorded, or
will be recording (it wasn't clear) 2 duets with Sting for Sting's
forthcoming album.

Great news as far as I am concerned. I can't wait to hear that.

Salut !

>Hi Benjamin!
>
>It's just GREAT you are back on the list. Good to hear from you again.
>I hope you are well! I'am OK and doing well.
>
>Well, why i write to you is the following. Last friday i was watching
>France 2 TV with the programm Taratata on which was quite nice. Cheb
>Mami was there as well. Nagui, the presenter, said something in French,
>about a rumour with Sting. As i read earlier on the Freaks list Cheb is
>recording together with Sting, do you perhaps know what Cheb was saying
>about it. My French is too bad to follow. I hope you saw the programm as
>well. Thanks for your answer!
>
>Bye and have a good week!
>
>Markus



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (police) Re: Cheb Mami
Date: 14 Apr 1999 16:50:32 +0200

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It's a very very great news !! Hope it implies that Sting is going in
a new direction !!

Do you know if Cheb Mami can sing in English ?
Hope he will do in Arabian. It would be very nice to hear Sting
introducing Arabian elements in his music (make me think of
"Bed's too big", one of my really favorite). But we should remember
that Stevie Wonder is perhaps also on the album.

BTW, Cheb Mami was a guest  of the last Natacha Atlas concert in Paris.
He wasn't on his top, but I love them both.

Vince





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Hello Markus, hello everyone,

I saw Taratata as well. Cheb Mami confirmed himself he has recorded, or=

will be recording (it wasn't clear) 2 duets with Sting for Sting's
forthcoming album.

Great news as far as I am concerned. I can't wait to hear that.

Salut !

>Hi Benjamin!
>
>It's just GREAT you are back on the list. Good to hear from you again.=

>I hope you are well! I'am OK and doing well.
>
>Well, why i write to you is the following. Last friday i was watching
>France 2 TV with the programm Taratata on which was quite nice. Cheb
>Mami was there as well. Nagui, the presenter, said something in French=
,
>about a rumour with Sting. As i read earlier on the Freaks list Cheb i=
s
>recording together with Sting, do you perhaps know what Cheb was sayin=
g
>about it. My French is too bad to follow. I hope you saw the programm =
as
>well. Thanks for your answer!
>
>Bye and have a good week!
>
>Markus



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                 Journaliste-Pr=E9sentateur / Editor-Anchor
                   - French Sports satellite and cable TV -
                         Journaux d'information / News
                                               &
    Le Magazine du Multim=E9dia / Weekly program about Multimedia
                                        L'Equipe TV
                       145, rue Jean-Jacques Rousseau
                      92138 Issy-les-Moulineaux Cedex
                                           FRANCE
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                        E-mail : [e-mail]



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (police) Karel's Home-PC crashed
Date: 14 Apr 1999 10:59:06 EDT

Hello folks, after a little more than a week, i'm back.  I would like
to thank all those that contacted me concerning my health.  I'm doing
much better already.  There's however another problem which prevents me
since a couple of days to read/recieve/send mails at my home address.
If people would like to contact me, they must send it to the following
address for the next days/weeks: [e-mail]
I will try to answer asap, but i can only read mails between 9.00 and
17.00 CET at this mail address.  Sorry for this inconvenience.
Cheers and thanks again.
Karel
PS: Terry, do contact me please.


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From: Elke & Volker Kulms <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Andy in London
Date: 14 Apr 1999 17:15:48 +0200

ooouuuuuhhhhh!

My wife and me will be in London from May 21st to 24th to celebrate our 1st
year of marriage...

seems like all of those going to see him there have to convince him to
play ONE MORE WEEK ;-)

Volker from Dortmund, Germany

PS does anyone have addresses of secondhand record shops in London ?
   I'd love to ho hunting a bit for my collection :-)
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From: "Esther M. Tena" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) (mildly off-topic) Help Save the Rainforest
Date: 14 Apr 1999 10:56:34 -0500

This is sad news for me since my company is starting to ship our
cobblestone to them next week.  BTW did anyone catch South Park just last
week?  It had to do with the rain forest.  Quite funny I thought.

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> From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: (police) (mildly off-topic) Help Save the Rainforest
> Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 8:12 PM
>
> Since Sting champions this cause, and since some of you care . . .  This
> was forwarded to me, and it's not a hoax:
>
> I am sending the following letter to Home Depot after
> discovering that it contracts with suppliers who make
> products from rainforests.
>
> If you have the time and/or the inclination, please
> use the letter below to state your objections.  You
> can mail using their homepage at www.homedepot.com.
> Snail mail tends to be more effective for petitions, but . . .
>
> By all means, tell all your friends.
>
> Take care, Diana
>
> April 9, 1999
>
> The Home Depot,
> Attn: CEO Arthur Blank, President,
> 2727 Paces Ferry Road,
> Atlanta, GA 30339.
>
> Dear Mr. Blank:
>
> I am a customer of yours and was dismayed to learn
> that you contract with suppliers who support the
> destruction of rainforests.
>
> Please immediately cancel all contracts with the
> three companies that threaten the Great Bear
> Rainforest: Sauder/Interfor, Doman and West Fraser.
> This includes ensuring that they are not being
> supplied with wood derived from these 3 companies'
> logging operation through wholesalers, distributors,
> remanufacturers or any other means.
>
> Please phase out all products that contribute to the
> destruction of ancient forest products anywhere in
> the world.
>
> Please join the US group of buyers committed to
> purchasing independently-certified wood products (the
> Certified Forest Products Council) and phase in
> non-destructive wood products.
>
> Sincerely,
> --
> Aaron Cole
> http://www.catalog.com/bartmon/comments/JamesSatoshi.htm
> "When he walked into the clubhouse, the lights flickered."
>  - former Yankees clubhouse man Pete Sheehy on Joe DiMaggio
>
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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) (mildly off-topic) Help Save the Rainforest
Date: 14 Apr 1999 12:15:04 -0400

"Esther M. Tena" wrote:

> This is sad news for me since my company is starting to ship our
> cobblestone to them next week.

I doubt it's necessary to feel so bad. The production and distribution of
cobblestone, at least to my knowledge, is not wrecking too many rainforests.
Also, while I think Home Depot is part of the problem--the ones to really
blame are probably Sauder/Interfor, Doman and West Fraser. However, it would
put pressure on these companies, if Home Depot refused to sell those
companies' products to the consumer market (and Home Depot, of course, is part
of the problem, if they are selling those companies' products).

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Subject: (police) (off-topic) concerning bootlegging
Date: 14 Apr 1999 12:48:15 -0400

First, there is no doubt in my mind that some people who do make a
little profit from bootlegging, all in all, tend to be nice people when
you meet them. And without bootlegs, many fans would be unable to enjoy
many excellent live concerts that would otherwise be inaccessible
through major record labels. However, the people who go to concerts,
record them, then sell them to KTS or some other bootleg company are
doing so--not for the love of the music, but for profit. These people
could just as easily, master the concerts onto a cd-r, and copy them
freely for fellow fans at cost.

Keep this in mind, when you are considering purchasing a $40+ cd concert
from a small outlet music store (often they aren't selling cds anyway;
they're selling cd-rs, and regardless, blank cds and cd-rs aren't very
expensive) or from people on the internet:

 I can get gold cd-rs (Maxell) gold on gold (golds tend to be the best
quality) for around $2 each Canadian funds at discount stores (like
CostCo here in North America). At normal stores, I can find gold Mitsui
(gold on gold) for about $2.60 + tax (Canadian funds). And I can buy
single blank cd-rs at this price (I don't have to buy a spindle). So at
the very maximum, the highest quality cd-rs (which
tend to be gold on gold) cost $3 Canadian funds per blank cd. (right
now, 67-68
cents US = $1 Canadian funds). Anyway, at the most, a 2cd set, including

jewel cases is only worth $6 Canadian including taxes. A couple of black
and white photocopies are worth maybe a $1 (maybe $2 for colour
copies/scans--and this price estimate is very inflated). A bubble
envelope costs maybe $1 max.
Shipping a 2cd set (including a jewel case) to anywhere in the world is
probably only $7 (airmail) max (for Canadians). So, at the most a 2cd-r
set, is only worth about $15-$16 Canadian funds including taxes and
shipping.

Also, the only difference between blank audio and data cd-rs is the
price. In Florida (USA), I think people are now taxed for purchasing
"audio" cd-rs. So audio cd-rs probably cost $5 US there as opposed to
$1.60-$2.90 US for the cd-rs labeled "data". There's no difference
except the labeling. Record companies are annoyed with pirating, and so
have forced the distinction between audio and data--to basically fool
consumers.

When fans on the U2 list that I'm on, wanted the Canadian limited
edition Best of U2 1980-1990 2cd set (with the limited edition #s on the

back), I went out and bought copies for them at cost and sent it to them

at cost. I did not make any profit (nor should I have). I did it for the
love of the music and sharing it with others (granted, this wasn't a
bootleg).

Also, there are two people on this list who have received free stuff
from me, simply because I wanted to share music (please don't email me
for requests).

I feel that fans should look out for one another, not try to profit from

them (or in the process, profit from the musician's work). That's only
my opinion, of course, and again, I mean no offense.

Regards,
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From: Jason Startt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: "Love is Stronger Than Justice"
Date: 14 Apr 1999 13:02:34 -0400

Funny, I never considered the interpretation that the one brother KILLED
the others, I just thought he got rid of them somehow (i.e. left his
brothers for the girl without killing them).  I guess I'm just naive :)

-Jason


At 08:32 AM 4/14/99 +0200, you wrote:
>> The Song of the Week is "Love Is Stronger Than Justice (The Munificent
>> Seven)" from TEN SUMMONER'S TALES.
>
>Hi all
>Although it's a nice tune
>I always hated it because of
>"
>               The maidens numbered only one
>               But there weren't seven brides for seven brothers
>               I knew I had to get rid of the others
>"
>Can't stand the idea
>these guys living and working together, and then
>one of them kills all the others because
>of some girl
>
>ggggrrrrrr
>
>but maybe I miss the "point"
>
>my 2 E-cts
>magda
>
>
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From: "M. van Santen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: "Love is Stronger Than Justice"
Date: 14 Apr 1999 19:30:25 +0200

Hi Jason
What do you think this line is meaning then?
"
               And though there used to be brothers seven
               The other six are singing in heaven
"
M.

Jason Startt wrote:
> Funny, I never considered the interpretation that the one brother KILLED
> the others, I just thought he got rid of them somehow (i.e. left his
> brothers for the girl without killing them).  I guess I'm just naive :)
> -Jason
> At 08:32 AM 4/14/99 +0200, you wrote:
> >> The Song of the Week is "Love Is Stronger Than Justice (The Munificent
> >> Seven)" from TEN SUMMONER'S TALES.
> >
> >Hi all
> >Although it's a nice tune
> >I always hated it because of
> >"
> >               The maidens numbered only one
> >               But there weren't seven brides for seven brothers
> >               I knew I had to get rid of the others
> >"
> >Can't stand the idea
> >these guys living and working together, and then
> >one of them kills all the others because
> >of some girl
> >
> >ggggrrrrrr
> >but maybe I miss the "point"


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Subject: (police) "Save the Rainforest - South Park"
Date: 14 Apr 1999 13:28:32 EDT

On 4/14/99 [e-mail] (Esther M. Tena), writes:

>"BTW did anyone catch South Park just last
>week?  It had to do with the rain forest.  Quite funny I thought."

Yes, I did happen to see it and thought it was very funny.  I was waiting for
them to mention Sting, but of course they didn't.  Good, anyway!  Glad I'm
not the only nut here who watches South Park...

Michelle

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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: "Love is Stronger Than Justice"
Date: 14 Apr 1999 12:37:35 -0500

>The Song of the Week is "Love Is Stronger Than Justice (The Munificent
>Seven)" from TEN SUMMONER'S TALES.

>               The other six are singing in heaven

Based on the above line, he definitely killed them all.  And frankly, I
kind of liked the story.  Not because of the disturbing killing over a
woman aspect but because it sounds so sweet and wholesome musically, like a
square dance almost in the chorus, and then it turns out to be so terribly
dark.  Very much in the literary vein of Shirley Jackson ("The Lottery") or
Flannery O'Connor ("A Good Man is Hard to Find").  Positively bone-chiling.
_________________
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Subject: (police) SOTW "Love is Stronger Than Justice"
Date: 14 Apr 1999 13:32:32 EDT

I've always liked this song, mainly for the rythym, I think.  I'm not a fan
of country music at all, but this song has that country feel to it.  And
quite a little story he tells, too.  And I always thought that he killed his
other brothers, too!  Kind of sick, but he changes the old addage that "blood
is thicker than water" (whatever that means) (that is the addage, isn't it?).
 Anyway, I always liked that vision of Sting on a horse...

Cheers!

Michelle

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From: "Steve Agovino" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Timothy White Sessions
Date: 14 Apr 1999 13:36:22 -0400

What exactly *were* the Timothy White Sessions? (besides being the content of
some rather exceptional bootlegs)

Were they nothing more than studio recordings testing the sound quality during
the recording of The Soul Cages and Ten Summoner's Tales, or something more,
like practice for the Unplugged show in 1991?

Or am I wrong on both counts here?  :p

Dave & Wendy... do you know?  :)

Anyone?

Anyone?

Bueller?


-Steve

--
______________________________________________________________________________
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    "Man will always want what he can't have
     It's more than he can do just to be brave
     He seeks perfection in a thousand ways
     Just throw another shovel on his grave..."  -Sting, "If You There"
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Subject: (police) Love is stronger than justice according Stingcafe
Date: 14 Apr 1999 14:20:28 -0400

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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: "Love is Stronger Than Justice"
Date: 14 Apr 1999 14:34:00 -0400

Kimberly Hansing wrote:

> Very much in the literary vein of Shirley Jackson ("The Lottery") or Flannery
>O'Connor ("A Good Man is Hard to Find").  Positively bone-chiling.

I like both of these authors very much (The Lottery is a great short story).
However, I think Sting don't think the lyrics were meant to be serious, dark
and morbid; I believe the intention was a kind of quirky, dark humour (meant in
a kind of off-beat fashion).

When you juxtapose this song, with something like, say, "Moon Over Bourbon
Street", I think the distinction in style becomes a little clearer.

Take care,
--
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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: "Love is Stronger Than Justice"
Date: 14 Apr 1999 14:38:09 -0400

The Webslinger wrote:

> However, I think Sting don't think the lyrics were meant to be serious, dark
> and morbid

Brutal typo . . . I changed thoughts mid sentence. "However, I  don't think the
lyrics were meant to be serious, dark . . ."

By the way, I believe the lyrics do suggest that one brother killed the others.

Regards,
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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: "Love is Stronger Than Justice"
Date: 14 Apr 1999 13:45:56 -0500

>> Very much in the literary vein of Shirley Jackson ("The Lottery") or
Flannery
>>O'Connor ("A Good Man is Hard to Find").  Positively bone-chiling.
>I like both of these authors very much (The Lottery is a great short story).
>However, I think Sting don't think the lyrics were meant to be serious, dark
>and morbid; I believe the intention was a kind of quirky, dark humour
(meant in
>a kind of off-beat fashion).
>
>When you juxtapose this song, with something like, say, "Moon Over Bourbon
>Street", I think the distinction in style becomes a little clearer.

Believe me, I'm familiar with style distinctions.  I see it in the same
light as these other stories because it's an unexpected twist, as with
these other stories.  I understand that the style of music lends the comedy
so that it's more like the movies "Heathers" in that sense, i.e. a black
comedy.
_________________
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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) The best Sting and The Police bootlegs
Date: 14 Apr 1999 14:59:16 -0400

Ya know, there is a ton of information on bootlegs for fans of most
other bands, musicians. For example, for U2 fans, this site is an
invaluable guide: http://www.erols.com/breck/forlove/

Dave and Wendy's site offers a lot of front picture scans and set lists
and Karel's site offers general comments about sound quality (and no, I
wasn't targeting him; Karel seems to be a very nice person, and I hope
he gets better soon. For the record, I think bootlegs are great.
Unfortunately, fans are often forced to pay outrageous prices for
bootlegs, when often, there are other options--cd-r webrings and various
bootleg trading webrings can help fans and lower costs, for example . .
.).

But overall, there's no a whole lot of info on the web about Sting and
Police boots. Which ones would you consider the best? I know the Chicago
Sessions is a pretty big favourite. The sound quality is excellent
soundboard, and Sting's performance is top notch (for this somewhat
"acoustic" set) for Soul Cage lovers.

What Police and Sting bootlegs (actually I would like to see this
question added to the big future Annual Police/Sting Internet survey) do
you (those on the list) think are the best (and why)? Does any site on
the net rate Sting/Police boots?

Wondering,
--
Aaron Cole
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From: Malav Trivedi <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) The best Sting and The Police bootlegs
Date: 14 Apr 1999 15:25:32 -0400 (EDT)


We could even take it a step further and ask which Police /Sting show
was someone's favorite and why?

Mine would have to be the Hatfield Polytechnic show. Even though it is by
far the most bootlegged show out there, it is absolutley perfect. No
offense to the Synchronicity Tour shows, but the earlier Police shows are
where its at.  Songs like Fallout, Next To You and Truth Hits Everybody
disappeared towards the end of there career, and I hated that. All three
sounded amazing along with So Lonely and Can't Stand Losing You.

Also, during the Hatfield show, I thought Roxanne was absolutley flawless
and Hole in my life (to me is a bad song) sounded great. It was also the
first time Message in a Bottle had been played live which is a momentous
occasion in itself. But the topper for me was probably this:

"On the guitar, Andy Summers. On the drums, Stewart Copeland. This is
Sting, good night Hatfield from the Police!"

I have never heard Sting introduce himself with Stewart and Andy on any
other show before. I find that to be quite important.

I also liked the bootleg Evolution: Live in Melbourne from 1980. Intense
version of So Lonely and the best live version of Deathwish.

Enough rambling...

Take care, Malav


On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, The Webslinger wrote:
>
>>
> What Police and Sting bootlegs (actually I would like to see this
> question added to the big future Annual Police/Sting Internet survey) do
> you (those on the list) think are the best (and why)? Does any site on
> the net rate Sting/Police boots?
>
> Wondering,
> --
> Aaron Cole
> http://www.catalog.com/bartmon/comments/JamesSatoshi.htm
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>  - former Yankees clubhouse man Pete Sheehy on Joe DiMaggio
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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: "Love is Stronger Than Justice"
Date: 14 Apr 1999 16:40:12 -0400

Kimberly Hansing wrote:

> Believe me, I'm familiar with style distinctions.  I see it in the same
> light as these other stories because it's an unexpected twist, as with
> these other stories.

Actually, that's a very good observation (and I understand what you mean now, my
apologies--I should have understood the first time).

Although this isn't exactly related--but in terms of unexpected twists, Sting has
done this in a couple of songs now. `Wrapped Around Your Finger' changes
perpectives at the end with "You'll be wrapped around MY finger" instead of "I'll
be wrapped around your finger" (and it too is almost sinister--"your servent is
your master")

And as I mentioned, a long, long time ago, `I'm So Happy . . .', the chorus line
seems to alter or soften in terms of its meaning from the beginning to the end of
the song--from a sense of despair to an eventual acceptance and understanding.
I've never really cared for I'm So Happy I Can't Stop Crying, but the lyrics are
direct and very good in my opinion.

Peace,
--
Aaron Cole
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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: "Love is Stronger Than Justice"
Date: 14 Apr 1999 15:58:12 -0500

>> Believe me, I'm familiar with style distinctions.  I see it in the same
>> light as these other stories because it's an unexpected twist, as with
>> these other stories.
>Actually, that's a very good observation (and I understand what you mean
now, my
>apologies--I should have understood the first time).
Not a problem... I should have been more clear.  :-)

>Although this isn't exactly related--but in terms of unexpected twists,
Sting has
>done this in a couple of songs now. `Wrapped Around Your Finger' changes
>perpectives at the end with "You'll be wrapped around MY finger" instead
of "I'll
>be wrapped around your finger" (and it too is almost sinister--"your
servent is
>your master")
I agree.  I see the same thing in Every Breath You Take... sweet music, but
the lyrics are a little funny, a little weird, a little *too* attentive.
If you haven't read "A Good Man is Hard to Find," Flannery O'Connor, please
do make time.  It will remind you of this in that way.  I think that this
particular twisting is a hallmark of much of the literature of the 20th
century... a very perfect something that is rotten at the core.  Once can
cite examples on examples of that theme, which is why I see Sting as a
modern poet as much as a songcrafter.
_________________
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From: "M. van Santen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Timothy White Sessions
Date: 14 Apr 1999 23:19:26 +0200

Hi Steve

The Timothy White Sessions were  Chicago radio-shows from 1991 and 1993
in which Sting was interviewed by mr.T.White,
and Sting and band played an accoustic session

Bootleg- Track Listing:
    Jeremiah Blues
    Mad About You
    The Wind Cries Mary (Jimi Hendrix)
    Message In A Bottle
    The Soul Cages
    Every Breath You Take
    Be-Bop-A-Lula (Gene Vincent & Sheriff Tex Davis)
    I Miss You Kate
    All This Time
    If I Ever Lose My Faith In You
    Love Is Stronger Than Justice
    Fields Of Gold
    Englishman In New York
    A Day In The Life
    Fortress Around Your Heart
    Nothing 'Bout Me
    Every Breath You Take

Steve  Agovino wrote:
> What exactly *were* the Timothy White Sessions? (besides being the content of
> some rather exceptional bootlegs)


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Subject: Re: (police) The best Sting and The Police bootlegs
Date: 14 Apr 1999 17:48:45 -0400

Malav Trivedi wrote:

> Mine would have to be the Hatfield Polytechnic show. Even though it is by
> far the most bootlegged show out there, it is absolutley perfect.

In your opinion, of all the various bootlegs of this show, which one has the
best sound quality? Is the bootleg recorded from a soundboard source? Was it a
radio broadcast? Or is it an audience recording? How good is the sound quality
overall? (these are the types of questions that haunt many fans)

> I also liked the bootleg Evolution: Live in Melbourne from 1980. Intense
> version of So Lonely and the best live version of Deathwish.

Is this also a soundboard show?

Wondering,
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From: Malav Trivedi <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) The best Sting and The Police bootlegs
Date: 14 Apr 1999 18:02:05 -0400 (EDT)


Well the Hatfield Polytechnic show I taped off of the radio and sent the
tape to Terrence Sheehan for putting it on a CD-R and remastering it. I
think it sounds pretty damn good, but maybe not quite soundboard.

The Melbourne show I got from Karel and all of his CD-R's are soundboard
quality, I believe.

You are right though. I think everyone show put their reviews of different
bootlegs so no one else gets screwed by spending lots of cash for a crappy
recording.

Take Care, Malav

On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, The Webslinger wrote:

> Malav Trivedi wrote:
>
> > Mine would have to be the Hatfield Polytechnic show. Even though it is by
> > far the most bootlegged show out there, it is absolutley perfect.
>
> In your opinion, of all the various bootlegs of this show, which one has the
> best sound quality? Is the bootleg recorded from a soundboard source? Was it a
> radio broadcast? Or is it an audience recording? How good is the sound quality
> overall? (these are the types of questions that haunt many fans)
>
> > I also liked the bootleg Evolution: Live in Melbourne from 1980. Intense
> > version of So Lonely and the best live version of Deathwish.
>
> Is this also a soundboard show?
>
> Wondering,
> --
> Aaron Cole
> http://www.catalog.com/bartmon/comments/JamesSatoshi.htm
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Schmitz)
Subject: (police) Languages/liner notes
Date: 14 Apr 1999 17:43:06 -0500 (CDT)

This is not an exact translation, is it? "Juegos" = games, and "Dos
Armas Humeantes" literally means "two smoking arms (weapons)", (I think,
please correct me if I'm wrong!) so what *exactly* are "trampas"?  The
exact translation is "Games, Traps and Two Smoky Weapons"
I have to ask.
I believe the title "Lock, Stock, And 2 Smoking Barrels" refers to parts
of a rifle. WHY would the title be so different in another language?
Don't people in non-english speaking lands have words for the lock,
stock and barrels of guns?
Gang~
Swew was at one of our local radio stations (in Minneapolis) last week,
and he said that the band all got together and recorded audio CD liner
notes for an upcoming 3 CD set. He said it was great because they could
talk about "what guitar Andy was playing or what foul mood Sting was
in." I haven't heard anything about this set, so I'm wondering what will
be on it.
It should be neat to hear the ol' boys all together around one mic
though.
======================================================================
The only things I know about this are?/is that all 3 guys were in the
same room at the same time for this (which I think is a major
accomplishment) and that Stew was not actually in Minneapolis, but was
on the phone.
This station also played a recording of Stew saying something like "I'd
love to get back together with them because that really was where it was
at, but why should I now that I've got so much going on?" This is not
verbatim, but just gives you the general idea. I may be able to give an
accurate quote in a few days.

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From: Marisa Meisters <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) The best Sting and The Police bootlegs
Date: 14 Apr 1999 17:51:53 -0500

Aaron wrote:

>What Police and Sting bootlegs (actually I would like to see this
>question added to the big future Annual Police/Sting Internet survey) do
>you (those on the list) think are the best (and why)? Does any site on
>the net rate Sting/Police boots?

I have a small Police Bootleg FAQ on my web site.  It was written by
Carlo Bolchini (is he still a member of this mailing list?) and he gave it
to me several years ago for my site.  The URL is:

http://stingetc.com/copboot.html

If anyone has any comments/corrections/information about additional
Police bootlegs, I would be happy to add them.  Likewise I'd be happy
to expand the bootleg FAQ to include recordings by Stewart, Andy,
and Sting.

Sincerely,
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From: Jason Startt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: "Love is Stronger Than Justice"
Date: 14 Apr 1999 19:33:38 -0400

You are absolutely right!  He did kill his brothers.  I guess I 've just
been listening to the song blindly (or should I say deafly).  I never put
those two lines together.  When I listen to the song, my mind tends to
focus on the country sound (I still can't believe he attempted country)
instead of the lyric's meaning.  I really like the breakdown at the end of
the song.  Taking this song from the country beat to a post-modern jazz
sound is just so Sting!

Didn't Sting call this song a Spaghetti Western on some VH1 special?
Anyway, I'm semi-fan of country.  I liked what he did with I'm so happy...
and I thought the duet he did with Toby Keith was fun to listen to!  I
mean, you don't often hear Sting on a local country radio station!

Cheers,
Jason

At 07:30 PM 4/14/99 +0200, you wrote:
>Hi Jason
>What do you think this line is meaning then?
>"
>               And though there used to be brothers seven
>               The other six are singing in heaven
>"
>M.
>
>Jason Startt wrote:
>> Funny, I never considered the interpretation that the one brother KILLED
>> the others, I just thought he got rid of them somehow (i.e. left his
>> brothers for the girl without killing them).  I guess I'm just naive :)
>> -Jason
>> At 08:32 AM 4/14/99 +0200, you wrote:
>> >> The Song of the Week is "Love Is Stronger Than Justice (The Munificent
>> >> Seven)" from TEN SUMMONER'S TALES.
>> >
>> >Hi all
>> >Although it's a nice tune
>> >I always hated it because of
>> >"
>> >               The maidens numbered only one
>> >               But there weren't seven brides for seven brothers
>> >               I knew I had to get rid of the others
>> >"
>> >Can't stand the idea
>> >these guys living and working together, and then
>> >one of them kills all the others because
>> >of some girl
>> >
>> >ggggrrrrrr
>> >but maybe I miss the "point"
>
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From: Jay Matsueda <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Languages/liner notes
Date: 14 Apr 1999 19:48:53 -0700 (PDT)



--- Gary Schmitz <[e-mail]> wrote:

> I believe the title "Lock, Stock, And 2 Smoking
> Barrels" refers to parts
> of a rifle.


Gary-

Whereas the LSA2SB title perhaps could reference parts of the rifles, I
think the title has an alternative interpretation, too.  A double
meaning.

I believe that the phrase "lock, stock, and barrel" refers to a
situation where someone seizes someone elses business assets from them.
 They take the lock on the door, the stock in the back room, etc.

The beginning of the title then may refer to the possibility of Sting's
bar being taken.  The 2SB were the guns in the movie.  And the double
meaning was with your interpetation of the gun parts.

Hey, I reserve the right to be totally wrong, but what do you say?

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Subject: Re: (police) Languages/liner notes
Date: 14 Apr 1999 22:29:41 -0500 (CDT)


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To me, it would make more sense than Games, Traps, and 2 Smoky barrels.
But I have not seen the movie.

Does anyone have the animated gif of the three guys a la Ghost in the
Machine? I'd love to see any and all Police gifs. Thanks.

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--- Gary Schmitz <[e-mail]> wrote:

> I believe the title "Lock, Stock, And 2 Smoking
> Barrels" refers to parts
> of a rifle.


Gary-

Whereas the LSA2SB title perhaps could reference parts of the rifles, I
think the title has an alternative interpretation, too.  A double
meaning.

I believe that the phrase "lock, stock, and barrel" refers to a
situation where someone seizes someone elses business assets from them.
 They take the lock on the door, the stock in the back room, etc.

The beginning of the title then may refer to the possibility of Sting's
bar being taken.  The 2SB were the guns in the movie.  And the double
meaning was with your interpetation of the gun parts.

Hey, I reserve the right to be totally wrong, but what do you say?

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From: Gerard Marks <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Re: Cheb Mami
Date: 14 Apr 1999 20:31:48 -0700 (PDT)

Excuse my ignorance but can someone enlighten me as to who Cheb Mami
is, what style of music he sings what nationality he is etc?

Thanks

Gerard

--- [e-mail] wrote:
>
> It's a very very great news !! Hope it implies that
> Sting is going in
> a new direction !!
>
> Do you know if Cheb Mami can sing in English ?
> Hope he will do in Arabian. It would be very nice to
> hear Sting
> introducing Arabian elements in his music (make me
> think of
> "Bed's too big", one of my really favorite). But we
> should remember
> that Stevie Wonder is perhaps also on the album.
>
> BTW, Cheb Mami was a guest  of the last Natacha
> Atlas concert in Paris.
> He wasn't on his top, but I love them both.
>
> Vince
>
>
>
>
>
> Benjamin VINCENT <[e-mail]> on
> 14/04/99 16.33.05
>
> Please respond to Benjamin VINCENT
> <[e-mail]>
>
> To:   [e-mail]
> cc:   [e-mail] (bcc: Vincent
> CADORET/FR/Dalet)
> Subject:  (police) Re: Cheb Mami
>
>
> >
>
> Hello Markus, hello everyone,
>
> I saw Taratata as well. Cheb Mami confirmed himself
> he has recorded, or
> will be recording (it wasn't clear) 2 duets with
> Sting for Sting's
> forthcoming album.
>
> Great news as far as I am concerned. I can't wait to
> hear that.
>
> Salut !
>
> >Hi Benjamin!
> >
> >It's just GREAT you are back on the list. Good to
> hear from you again.
> >I hope you are well! I'am OK and doing well.
> >
> >Well, why i write to you is the following. Last
> friday i was watching
> >France 2 TV with the programm Taratata on which was
> quite nice. Cheb
> >Mami was there as well. Nagui, the presenter, said
> something in French,
> >about a rumour with Sting. As i read earlier on the
> Freaks list Cheb is
> >recording together with Sting, do you perhaps know
> what Cheb was saying
> >about it. My French is too bad to follow. I hope
> you saw the programm as
> >well. Thanks for your answer!
> >
> >Bye and have a good week!
> >
> >Markus
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Subject: Re: (police) The best Sting and The Police bootlegs
Date: 15 Apr 1999 13:44:26 +0200


You should have look to http://www.police.cybercomm.nl/.
There's an incredible list of concerts for Police/Sting/ Andy and
Stew.

Personally one of my favorite bootlegs is Milano 79, with
the best live versions of Walking on the Moon, Roxanne and
Can't stand I know. But it's also sentimental, since it was the first
bootleg I bought !! (-; BTW, I'm looking for a CD version since
I've got it on vinyl.

Vince





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Ya know, there is a ton of information on bootlegs for fans of most
other bands, musicians. For example, for U2 fans, this site is an
invaluable guide: http://www.erols.com/breck/forlove/

Dave and Wendy's site offers a lot of front picture scans and set lists
and Karel's site offers general comments about sound quality (and no, I
wasn't targeting him; Karel seems to be a very nice person, and I hope
he gets better soon. For the record, I think bootlegs are great.
Unfortunately, fans are often forced to pay outrageous prices for
bootlegs, when often, there are other options--cd-r webrings and various
bootleg trading webrings can help fans and lower costs, for example . .
.).

But overall, there's no a whole lot of info on the web about Sting and
Police boots. Which ones would you consider the best? I know the Chicago
Sessions is a pretty big favourite. The sound quality is excellent
soundboard, and Sting's performance is top notch (for this somewhat
"acoustic" set) for Soul Cage lovers.

What Police and Sting bootlegs (actually I would like to see this
question added to the big future Annual Police/Sting Internet survey) do
you (those on the list) think are the best (and why)? Does any site on
the net rate Sting/Police boots?

Wondering,
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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Languages/liner notes
Date: 15 Apr 1999 08:10:12 -0500

>exact translation is "Games, Traps and Two Smoky Weapons"
>---------------------------------------------
>I have to ask.
>I believe the title "Lock, Stock, And 2 Smoking Barrels" refers to parts
>of a rifle. WHY would the title be so different in another language?
>Don't people in non-english speaking lands have words for the lock,
>stock and barrels of guns?

Yes, but they don't rhyme and they don't convey the same ideas as the
English title.  The rearranged Spanish title conveys the idea better in the
Spanish thought process.
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From: [e-mail] (Chris Jennings)
Subject: (police) kind of funny...
Date: 15 Apr 1999 22:29:20 -0600


        this is an excerpt from CNN online about Nabokov:

                        But "Lolita" is the work most people will
                        remember. Everywhere you look today,
                        Lolita's effect is seen, from the Long
                        Island Lolita (Amy Fisher's nickname) to a
                        Lolita brand of underwear, from movies
                        bearing her name, to pop songs like the
                        Police's "Don't Stand So Close to Me" (in
                        which, Nabokov's name is mispronounced
                        by Sting -- it's Na-BOH-kov, not
                        NA-bah-kahv).

        whole story available at:

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/books/1999/nabokov/biography/his.legacy/

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From: "Yordan Zhechev" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Lock Stock...an ammo comp
Date: 15 Apr 1999 20:18:24 +0200

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online ammo and all sorts of guns shop) called Lock Stock & Barrel (it =
was founded in 1975)....maybe thee's some connection with the movie...
the company's URL is:
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Yordan

P.S. btw, in bulgarian, the exact translation of the movie title is =
something like "Two hot guns"...


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"...Never to be wrong,
Never to make promises you brake,
It's like singing in the wind,
Or writing on the surface of a lake.
And I wriggle like a fish caught on dry land
Strruggle to avoid any help at hand..."
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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Lock Stock...an ammo comp
Date: 15 Apr 1999 13:37:53 -0500

Actually, the phrase lock, stock and barrel is much older than the
company... and based on the age of the phrase, it is almost certain that
the company named itself after the phrase rather than vice-versa.  But it
is an interesting twist, eh?
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Subject: Re: (police) kind of funny...
Date: 15 Apr 1999 13:36:31 -0500

>                        Police's "Don't Stand So Close to Me" (in
>                        which, Nabokov's name is mispronounced
>                        by Sting -- it's Na-BOH-kov, not
>                        NA-bah-kahv).

I think Sting, being the insufferable snob *grin* probably knows that and
was just making it fit the rhytms of the song... but ask anyone today (who
actually knows the name) how to pronounce it.  I'll bet they'd *all* say
NA-bah-kahv... *g*

Reminds me of the story of American football player Joe Theissmann... but
you'll have to mail me privately for that story as I'm not going to bore
the whole world with it!
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From: [e-mail] (Auke Hulst)
Subject: (police) Tom Scott's "We'll Be Together"
Date: 15 Apr 1999 20:53:33 +0100

I've just been listening to Tom Scott's 1995 album Night Creatures (on the
GRP label). This album of Scott's (the jazzfusion allround hornblower, who
did a lot work with Steely Dan, amongst others) contains two versions of
We'll Be Together. I myself was favorably impressed with them. I wonder
what others thought of them. Did anybody else hear these covers?

I usually am not one for covers. Artist tend to choose songs they revere,
and thus can hardly improve on. I think the clue to a good cover is a)
recognizing the potency of the composition and b) seeing where the original
fails in developing that composition into a good recording. Amongst fans -
and also by Sting himself, I believe - We'll Be Together is considered a
weak song, but after hearing Tom Scott's renditions I think the opposite is
true. (I did like it already in the original version, I admit). I don't
know why Sting himself was disheartened with it, by I think it has more to
do with the production than the composition. I think the original was too
mechanic; We'll Be Together is basically a funksong I think, it should roll
like a heavy boulder from a mountain. Anyway, obviously Tom Scott didn't
think the song was bad at all.

Both Tom Scott's version are funky to the bone - the word 'steamy' applies.
The first version of "We'll Be Together" is a vocalized one, with JT Taylor
singing (also having done the vocal arrangement). The second a slightly
faster instrumental version, with Scott doing both the lead and backing
bits on horns. JT Taylor does a very fine job on the first one - although I
really would have liked to hear Sting do this version. Or maybe even
Michael Jackson, 'cos I think it's a song that's perfect for the King of
Pop. I love the ending (also on the original) where the instrumentation
almost totally disappears, and there remain only several vocal lines, after
a while complemented by a decending bass. The only thing that can be said
against Scott's versions is that maybe they are a bit too slick. (As is
almost everything on the GRP label). But beside that, a very good cover
version in my book. Does anyone know any other good cover versions of
Sting/Police songs? (And I don't mean that Puffy type of garbage).

- Auke
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Subject: (police) Is it Live? Or is it Memorex?
Date: 15 Apr 1999 18:11:16 -0400

(Memorex, by the way, makes pretty bad blank media, in my opinion.)

With the advent of "click tracks", sequencers, and computers, does
anyone know the extent to which Sting's modern live performances are
still truly "live"? For example, during the MTV music awards (I can't
remember the year) in which Sting performed If I Ever Lose My Faith, the
opening (right before the lights went up) was obviously not live (a
sequencer must have been playing a loop). I know that Sting doesn't lip
synch and that his band does play live, but I do seem, on occasion, to
notice that some instruments are playing, and no one on stage could
possibly be playing them.

I am aware, for example, that many stadium acts, including U2, use
sequencers to emulate extra instruments that would otherwise require
more musicians on stage. Also, if the band plays along to the click
track (which is usually heard in the each band member's earpiece), the
band can pretty much stay in synch. Also, this adds the extra "safety"
of being able to press a button, if one gets tired of playing his or her
instrument, and the computer/sequencer will take over (while the
musician goes to get a drink or fool around with the audience or takes a
breather). This is pretty evident in bootlegs that have "stolen" the FM
broadcast that is transmitted to each band member's earpiece (this is
especially true amongst a few U2 Popmart "earpiece" bootlegs).

Live stadium bands have it pretty lucky now, I'd say. I don't think The
Police ever had that kinda safety (probably not until the Synchro
concerts). Anyway, I'd be interested to read any observations regarding
Sting using sequencers live.

Regards,
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From: "Hilary L. Justh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Is it Live? Or is it Memorex?
Date: 15 Apr 1999 18:21:02 -0600 (MDT)

Hello,

I do know for the MF Tour that recorded background singers were used for
If You Love Somebody (which really looked tacky in my opinion, if he
wanted that sound...he should have brought Dolette along on the tour), and
I Was Brought to My Senses (the ahh... at the beginning).  I also have
heard about additional background vocals of Stings being added to the
songs chourus' to provide a fuller sound, but am not sure about that.  The
Police did not use this technique that much, but I do recall Dolette in an
interview that was a part of one of the many unauthorized books on Sting
stated that the first time that she met him was to do overdubbing on one
of the early Synchronicity concert recordings (maybe Montreal?!?) since
Sting and the band thought that they were really bad...that is why the new
background singers on the Atlanta tape were hired for the rest of the
tour.  I have the video of the Montreal Show and it seems to back up
Dolette's story, bad singing, and really bad stage outfits which you have
to see to believe.....plus Sting, Andy and Stewart in all white (remember
Miles comment in Bring on the Night about the stage......)

Anyway, that is my two cents on the matter,

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From: [e-mail] (David Ostinga - track)
Subject: (police) Lip synching- Police round the world
Date: 16 Apr 1999 12:16:35 +1000

I seem to remember in the doco " The Police around the world"  sting gets
irate with one of the crowd members for throwing a bottle in his direction.
He stops singing and starts spitting on the person - an interesting insight
into the man. We see - the determination and the anger focused like a laser
beam - Sting the fighter for what he sees as justice. Sting calls for
"Larrry" to grab the guy ( my memory is vague on this) but you get the
feeling Sting actually wants to punch the guy out after the show. Its the
side of Sting someone like Stewart Copeland would know well but fans would
rarely see. I find it interesting for the fact that at that moment you can
see the drive that went towards acheiving  success. Anger focused into
action. I'm interested in anyone elses comments on this event.
Copeland I think described stings professionalism by the event saying he
managed to have a full on fight with the person whilst still entertaining
the 20 000+ crowd.

But during all this you can still hear the chorus of "de do do do" being
sung . I was wondering if anyone knows if the Police used some sort of
backing vocal system - prerecorded tracks attached to a sequencer thus
giving a bigger sound.

Track



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From: DSO <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Lip synching- Police round the world
Date: 16 Apr 1999 00:05:32 -0400 (EDT)



...it was mud, not a bottle.


...and that is not why the Police broke up...it is not that Sting was so
visious and the others were not...the were a BAND....they brokie up because
they got too popular too fast, and they wanted different things...END OF STORY!


At 12:16 PM 4/16/99 +1000, you wrote:
>I seem to remember in the doco " The Police around the world"  sting gets
>irate with one of the crowd members for throwing a bottle in his direction.
>He stops singing and starts spitting on the person - an interesting insight
>into the man. We see - the determination and the anger focused like a laser
>beam - Sting the fighter for what he sees as justice. Sting calls for
>"Larrry" to grab the guy ( my memory is vague on this) but you get the
>feeling Sting actually wants to punch the guy out after the show. Its the
>side of Sting someone like Stewart Copeland would know well but fans would
>rarely see. I find it interesting for the fact that at that moment you can
>see the drive that went towards acheiving  success. Anger focused into
>action. I'm interested in anyone elses comments on this event.
>Copeland I think described stings professionalism by the event saying he
>managed to have a full on fight with the person whilst still entertaining
>the 20 000+ crowd.
>
>But during all this you can still hear the chorus of "de do do do" being
>sung . I was wondering if anyone knows if the Police used some sort of
>backing vocal system - prerecorded tracks attached to a sequencer thus
>giving a bigger sound.
>
>Track
>
>
>
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From: DSO <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Is it Live? Or is it Memorex?
Date: 16 Apr 1999 00:05:28 -0400 (EDT)



Hilary,

Not correct.





At 06:21 PM 4/15/99 -0600, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I do know for the MF Tour that recorded background singers were used for
>If You Love Somebody (which really looked tacky in my opinion, if he
>wanted that sound...he should have brought Dolette along on the tour), and
>I Was Brought to My Senses (the ahh... at the beginning).  I also have
>heard about additional background vocals of Stings being added to the
>songs chourus' to provide a fuller sound, but am not sure about that.  The
>Police did not use this technique that much, but I do recall Dolette in an
>interview that was a part of one of the many unauthorized books on Sting
>stated that the first time that she met him was to do overdubbing on one
>of the early Synchronicity concert recordings (maybe Montreal?!?) since
>Sting and the band thought that they were really bad...that is why the new
>background singers on the Atlanta tape were hired for the rest of the
>tour.  I have the video of the Montreal Show and it seems to back up
>Dolette's story, bad singing, and really bad stage outfits which you have
>to see to believe.....plus Sting, Andy and Stewart in all white (remember
>Miles comment in Bring on the Night about the stage......)
>
>Anyway, that is my two cents on the matter,
>
>Hilary
>
>
>
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From: DSO <[e-mail]>
Subject: spelling/revised (police) Lip synching- Police round the world
Date: 16 Apr 1999 00:08:15 -0400 (EDT)


>
>...it was mud, not a bottle.
>
>
>...and that is not why the Police broke up...it is not that Sting was so
vicious and the others were not...they were a BAND....they broke up because
they got too popular too fast, and they wanted different things...END OF STORY!
>
>
>At 12:16 PM 4/16/99 +1000, you wrote:
>>I seem to remember in the doco " The Police around the world"  sting gets
>>irate with one of the crowd members for throwing a bottle in his direction.
>>He stops singing and starts spitting on the person - an interesting insight
>>into the man. We see - the determination and the anger focused like a laser
>>beam - Sting the fighter for what he sees as justice. Sting calls for
>>"Larrry" to grab the guy ( my memory is vague on this) but you get the
>>feeling Sting actually wants to punch the guy out after the show. Its the
>>side of Sting someone like Stewart Copeland would know well but fans would
>>rarely see. I find it interesting for the fact that at that moment you can
>>see the drive that went towards acheiving  success. Anger focused into
>>action. I'm interested in anyone elses comments on this event.
>>Copeland I think described stings professionalism by the event saying he
>>managed to have a full on fight with the person whilst still entertaining
>>the 20 000+ crowd.
>>
>>But during all this you can still hear the chorus of "de do do do" being
>>sung . I was wondering if anyone knows if the Police used some sort of
>>backing vocal system - prerecorded tracks attached to a sequencer thus
>>giving a bigger sound.
>>
>>Track
>>
>>
>>
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Subject: Re: (police) Tom Scott's "We'll Be Together"
Date: 16 Apr 1999 01:12:51 EDT

there is this fantastic version of "fields of gold" that was just released by
a female vocalist.  her name escapes me, but i always hear it on our jazz
station.  just her and very light acoustic accompaniment.  absolutly
wonderful, and if i just think of her name...

ken

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Subject:  Re: (police) Tom Scott's
Date: 16 Apr 1999 05:30:44 "GMT"

The Australian guitarist Tommy Emmanuael does a great instrumental of fields of gold on his last album, which for the life of me I can't remember the title.

Cheers
Mathew.
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there is this fantastic version of "fields of gold" that was just released by
a female vocalist.  her name escapes me, but i always hear it on our jazz
station.  just her and very light acoustic accompaniment.  absolutly
wonderful, and if i just think of her name...

ken

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From: "Duynstee, Teun" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) RE: SOTW: "Love is Stronger Than Justice"
Date: 16 Apr 1999 08:06:59 +0200

I liked that song the first time I heard it, though I'm not much of a
country fan. Then later it started to bore me more and more and nowadays I
sometimes tend to skip it when I play the record. But I must say, now with
all of you discussing it, I might start playing it more.

Now to the lyrics:
I have always had a feeling that this song was more autobiographical than
Sting likes to admit ("It's just stories I made up blah blah"). How about
this: We have a gang of men, a fighting unit. They need each other to
accomplish their task. They are successful, but then it dawns to the
smartest of the gang that the big prize can not be shared. So they quarrel,
the smart guy wins, but remains alone with his prize. Souds familiar? Of
course, Sting will always deny this analogy to his own path to world fame.
Maybe it was a subconscious thing...

What do you think?

Teun
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Subject: Re: (police) Is it Live? Or is it Memorex?
Date: 16 Apr 1999 10:15:19 +0200


It's obvious that during the Synchro Tour, Police used sequences since
we can hear a rythm machine while Stew is playing on percussions
on Walking in your footsteps for example, but also on Synchronicity I and
wrapped around your finger, even when he's behind the drums !! (I never
understood why he need that, since his drumming is so great !!).

Concerning Sting, as far as I can remember the concerts I saw, they were
no sequencer during the NLTS tour, since there was 9 musicians on stage
except on They dance alone for the repetitive roll.
Soul cages : yes in particular for the wild wild sea, for the "sea
effects".
TST and MF ? Don't remember.

Vince





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(Memorex, by the way, makes pretty bad blank media, in my opinion.)

With the advent of "click tracks", sequencers, and computers, does
anyone know the extent to which Sting's modern live performances are
still truly "live"? For example, during the MTV music awards (I can't
remember the year) in which Sting performed If I Ever Lose My Faith, the
opening (right before the lights went up) was obviously not live (a
sequencer must have been playing a loop). I know that Sting doesn't lip
synch and that his band does play live, but I do seem, on occasion, to
notice that some instruments are playing, and no one on stage could
possibly be playing them.

I am aware, for example, that many stadium acts, including U2, use
sequencers to emulate extra instruments that would otherwise require
more musicians on stage. Also, if the band plays along to the click
track (which is usually heard in the each band member's earpiece), the
band can pretty much stay in synch. Also, this adds the extra "safety"
of being able to press a button, if one gets tired of playing his or her
instrument, and the computer/sequencer will take over (while the
musician goes to get a drink or fool around with the audience or takes a
breather). This is pretty evident in bootlegs that have "stolen" the FM
broadcast that is transmitted to each band member's earpiece (this is
especially true amongst a few U2 Popmart "earpiece" bootlegs).

Live stadium bands have it pretty lucky now, I'd say. I don't think The
Police ever had that kinda safety (probably not until the Synchro
concerts). Anyway, I'd be interested to read any observations regarding
Sting using sequencers live.

Regards,
--
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From: Dave & Wendy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) new year's eve NOW CONFIRMED
Date: 16 Apr 1999 16:08:27 +0100

At 09:45 13/04/99 -0400, Liz wrote:
>According to Liz Smith's column this morning (Liz is a gossip columnist
>here in NY), Sting will be playing the Javits Center in NYC on new year's
>eve 1999.

Just to follow up Liz's note, we were speaking to Tina just now and
Outlandos have confirmed that this date is so far the only *confirmed* date
for the rest of the year at the moment. The show is on New Year's Eve, is
entitled "Celebration 2000", and appears to be a proper Sting show - not a
various artists ensemble. The Jacob K Javits Convention Centre's web-site
does not yet list the show, but apparently the show has been confirmed
today. Tina has given us a box office number (877 3323199) and said it's OK
to mention the date etc, but we doubt tickets are on sale yet, perhaps
someone in NY can confirm. Sounds like the place to see in the Millenium!!

If the "pied piper" is out there at the moment, perhaps you may wish to
check this out whist in the vicinity!?

Cheers
Dave & Wendy


Stingchronicity <http://www.stingchronicity.co.uk/>

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Subject: (police) Fwd: A question for my drummer friends
Date: 16 Apr 1999 12:54:36 EDT


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Hi all!

Most if not all drummers wear ear protection when practicing...yet when I
watch Stewart and other drummers drum in concert, I don't see any kind of
protection.  Are they wearing something in there ear?  Or don't they where
protection in concert?  If they wear protection, how can they hear the true
sounds of their drums during the concert?

Thanks!

Larry in Chicago

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From: "Hilary L. Justh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Is it Live? Or is it Memorex?
Date: 16 Apr 1999 10:58:00 -0600 (MDT)

Hello,

Then where were the distinctive female voices coming from that we all
heard during the MF tour version of If You Love Somebody?!?

Hilary





On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, DSO wrote:

>
>
> Hilary,
>
> Not correct.
>
>
>
>
>
> At 06:21 PM 4/15/99 -0600, you wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >I do know for the MF Tour that recorded background singers were used for
> >If You Love Somebody (which really looked tacky in my opinion, if he
> >wanted that sound...he should have brought Dolette along on the tour), and
> >I Was Brought to My Senses (the ahh... at the beginning).  I also have
> >heard about additional background vocals of Stings being added to the
> >songs chourus' to provide a fuller sound, but am not sure about that.  The
> >Police did not use this technique that much, but I do recall Dolette in an
> >interview that was a part of one of the many unauthorized books on Sting
> >stated that the first time that she met him was to do overdubbing on one
> >of the early Synchronicity concert recordings (maybe Montreal?!?) since
> >Sting and the band thought that they were really bad...that is why the new
> >background singers on the Atlanta tape were hired for the rest of the
> >tour.  I have the video of the Montreal Show and it seems to back up
> >Dolette's story, bad singing, and really bad stage outfits which you have
> >to see to believe.....plus Sting, Andy and Stewart in all white (remember
> >Miles comment in Bring on the Night about the stage......)
> >
> >Anyway, that is my two cents on the matter,
> >
> >Hilary
> >
> >
> >
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Subject: Re: (police) Fwd: A question for my drummer friends
Date: 16 Apr 1999 19:15:00 +0200


A lot of musicians don't wear any protection and cannot
hear correctly anymore. For example, the two last times
I saw Andy in concert, it was in a small club in Paris, and
each time he asked the public if the sound wasn't too loud.
He said that he doesn't hear very well anymore
because of all the Police concerts and that we should
tell him if it was too loud (which was the case imo).
So he was wearing some ear-protections.

I think that they wear protections that are sculpted for
their ears. You can do that, it isn't too very expensive.
Perhaps it can include a microphone.

Vincent

PS : For drummers, you've got the VicFirth headphones with
or without microphones. The version with microphones
is horribly  expansive. The other one is good and confortable.





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Hi all!

Most if not all drummers wear ear protection when practicing...yet when I
watch Stewart and other drummers drum in concert, I don't see any kind of
protection.  Are they wearing something in there ear?  Or don't they where
protection in concert?  If they wear protection, how can they hear the true
sounds of their drums during the concert?

Thanks!

Larry in Chicago








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From: "M.J. Vlasveld" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Andy Summers Interview
Date: 16 Apr 1999 19:24:45 +0200

Hi All,

Via the news page of the Andy Summers website you can find part of a
nice interview with Andy Summers in a March issue of an American
magazine. Anybody saw the complete interview in the magazine itself??

Bye,

Markus



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From: Malav Trivedi <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) new year's eve NOW CONFIRMED
Date: 16 Apr 1999 13:31:50 -0400 (EDT)


I tried the number for the box office and it rang a few times and then
went dead. Then I tried calling the Javits Center itself and it was busy
for like 30 minutes. I'll keep trying and let everyone know as soon as I
hear anything. (Thanks Dave and Wendy)

Although I don't know about spending New Years Eve in New York City. With
the Y2K thing happening, if anything goes wrong, I don't want to be stuck
in that city with millions of drunk people freaking out over the power
going out and the trains and subway not working. Maybe it's just my
paranoia.

Take Care, Malav

On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Dave & Wendy wrote:

> At 09:45 13/04/99 -0400, Liz wrote:
> >According to Liz Smith's column this morning (Liz is a gossip columnist
> >here in NY), Sting will be playing the Javits Center in NYC on new year's
> >eve 1999.
>
> Just to follow up Liz's note, we were speaking to Tina just now and
> Outlandos have confirmed that this date is so far the only *confirmed* date
> for the rest of the year at the moment. The show is on New Year's Eve, is
> entitled "Celebration 2000", and appears to be a proper Sting show - not a
> various artists ensemble. The Jacob K Javits Convention Centre's web-site
> does not yet list the show, but apparently the show has been confirmed
> today. Tina has given us a box office number (877 3323199) and said it's OK
> to mention the date etc, but we doubt tickets are on sale yet, perhaps
> someone in NY can confirm. Sounds like the place to see in the Millenium!!
>
> If the "pied piper" is out there at the moment, perhaps you may wish to
> check this out whist in the vicinity!?
>
> Cheers
> Dave & Wendy
>
>
> Stingchronicity <http://www.stingchronicity.co.uk/>
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Subject: (police) Puff Daddy arrested
Date: 16 Apr 1999 10:40:36 -0700 (PDT)

Just heard on the news that Puff Daddy has been arrested for assaulting
a record executive.

That's all folks!

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Subject: Re: (police) Puff Daddy arrested
Date: 16 Apr 1999 12:46:11 -0500

At 10:40 AM 4/16/99 -0700, Gerard Marks wrote:
>Just heard on the news that Puff Daddy has been arrested for assaulting
>a record executive.

I, for one, am shocked.
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Subject: (police) Sting on New Years Eve
Date: 16 Apr 1999 13:41:18 -0400 (EDT)


I just got through to the box office number that Dave and Wendy gave us.
For American Express Card holders the tickets are on sale now. For all
others they go on sale June 2.

I then asked about ticket prices. He said the VIP tickets were $2,500,
Tier 1 was $1,500 and Tier 2 was $1000. I guess this is some special event
because there is no way I am paying even 1/10 of that to go see Sting.
Maybe someone else can have better luck somewhere else, but according to
that box office number this the deal for "Celebration 2000"

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

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From: [e-mail] (Timothy Cunningham)
Subject: Re: (police) Fwd: A question for my drummer friends
Date: 16 Apr 1999 13:31:59 EDT

--- [e-mail] wrote:
Most if not all drummers wear ear protection when practicing...yet =
when I=20
watch Stewart and other drummers drum in concert, I don't see any =
kind of=20
protection.  Are they wearing something in there ear?  Or don't =
they where=20
protection in concert?  If they wear protection, how can they hear =
the true=20
sounds of their drums during the concert?
--- end of quote ---
I am going to guess that, during concert, it's much louder and =
therefore, even if a drummer had an earplug in his ear, he would =
stll be able to hear it. When in concert, things are extremely =
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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Fwd: A question for my drummer friends
Date: 16 Apr 1999 12:55:33 -0500

At 01:31 PM 4/16/99 EDT, Timothy Cunningham wrote:
>--- [e-mail] wrote:
>Most if not all drummers wear ear protection when practicing...yet when I
>watch Stewart and other drummers drum in concert, I don't see any kind of
>protection.  Are they wearing something in there ear?  Or don't they where
>protection in concert?  If they wear protection, how can they hear the true
>sounds of their drums during the concert?
>--- end of quote ---
>I am going to guess that, during concert, it's much louder and therefore,
even if a drummer had an earplug in his ear, he would stll be able to hear
it. When in concert, things are extremely loud!

True it's loud for US.  But the reason it's loud for us is because all the
amplifiers are pointing at US.  The fact is, often, even in loud shows, if
the monitors that the musicians use aren't working correctly, one or more
of the people onstage won't be able to hear their part of the performance
to know how they're doing.  That's one of the reasons sound engineers are
sooooo important!
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From: [e-mail] (Timothy Cunningham)
Subject: Re: (police) Fwd: A question for my drummer friends
Date: 16 Apr 1999 13:55:20 EDT

--- Kimberly Hansing wrote:
True it's loud for US.  But the reason it's loud for us is because =
all the
amplifiers are pointing at US.  The fact is, often, even in loud =
shows, if
the monitors that the musicians use aren't working correctly, one =
or more
of the people onstage won't be able to hear their part of the =
performance
to know how they're doing.  That's one of the reasons sound =
engineers are
sooooo important!
--- end of quote ---
Well, actualyl, most of the shows I've been to have the =
amps/cabinets right in back of the guitarist, bassist, etc, so they =
actualyl do hear it. Then it's miked through the PA system. Of =
course, I don't go to shows where there are big name bands with =
expensive equipment.

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From: Liz Belmont <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Sting on New Years Eve
Date: 16 Apr 1999 14:13:00 -0400 (EDT)

On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Malav Trivedi wrote:

>
> I just got through to the box office number that Dave and Wendy gave us.
> For American Express Card holders the tickets are on sale now. For all
> others they go on sale June 2.

<snip>

Well, I'm an American Express card holder, and I live in the area, but I
have a feeling I'll be staying home and getting drunk in my living
room instead...<g>

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From: "Ross Viner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Sting on New Years Eve
Date: 16 Apr 1999 12:45:24 -0700

I wonder if at those prices, the Police will play as well.
Even if they were, I'd rather spend the change of the millenium with ones
that I loved or care about.  I mean, it's the change of the millenium.  WHO
KNOWS WHEN THAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT:)?  Could be a thousand years!!!

Of course that sounds good in theory.
I just might might change my mind in reality as the date approaches.

Anyway, if it was free I'm sure to make the effort.  So how about it Sting?

Ross Viner

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>
>I just got through to the box office number that Dave and Wendy gave us.
>For American Express Card holders the tickets are on sale now. For all
>others they go on sale June 2.
>
>I then asked about ticket prices. He said the VIP tickets were $2,500,
>Tier 1 was $1,500 and Tier 2 was $1000. I guess this is some special event
>because there is no way I am paying even 1/10 of that to go see Sting.







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Subject: (police) [Fwd: collector's!!Check this out!]
Date: 16 Apr 1999 22:14:11 +0200

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hi there,

If you are a Sting-collector you know how hard it is to find that
particular item you need to complete your collection!
If you collect for many years you probably build up a whole ring of
friends who collect too and keep you updated!
To help you  to create or even increase your 'ring of collector-friends'
I've created 2 forums!

Wanted Sting/The Police Items
If you look for that special Sting or Police item
Set Sale/Auction Sting/The Police Items
If you intend to sell parts of your collection put an ad here!

There are 2 more forums, but they are not for collectors but more
regular!!
Visit the forum here!!!
 http://www.casualforums.com/soapbox/sting/index.cgi

Greetings,

Sjoerd



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Subject: (police) collector's wanted!!
Date: 16 Apr 1999 22:15:16 +0200

hi there,

If you are a Sting-collector you know how hard it is to find that
particular item you need to complete your collection!
If you collect for many years you probably build up a whole ring of
friends who collect too and keep you updated!
To help you  to create or even increase your 'ring of collector-friends'

I've created 2 forums!

Wanted Sting/The Police Items
If you look for that special Sting or Police item
Set Sale/Auction Sting/The Police Items
If you intend to sell parts of your collection put an ad here!

There are 2 more forums, but they are not for collectors but more
regular!!
Visit the forum here!!!
 http://www.casualforums.com/soapbox/sting/index.cgi

Greetings,

Sjoerd





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Subject: (police) Sting at Beacon Theater
Date: 16 Apr 1999 16:59:19 EDT

Hi everyone! A few weeks ago, someone posted that Sting, Harry Connick Jr and
Branford Marsalis was going to be at the Beacon Theater on June 25. I checked
everywhere and cannot comfirm or buy tickets. Any more info on this event??
Thanks!! Jessica :)

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From: Gerard Marks <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Sting on New Years Eve/Tour, Am. Ex.
Date: 16 Apr 1999 14:31:39 -0700 (PDT)

This probably means that American Express might be a major sponsor for
the upcoming tour.  The last time they sponsored Elton John, they had
special seats reserved for the entire tour.  With the upcoming album
and also the new Disney soundtrack, this is obviously going to be a big
year or two for Sting and AmEx knows it.

Maybe it's time to get that AmEx card if you want good seats without
the normal hassle.

Funny, I just ordered one for the Delta frequent flier miles, might
come into good use :-)

Gerard

--- Malav Trivedi <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> I just got through to the box office number that
> Dave and Wendy gave us.
> For American Express Card holders the tickets are on
> sale now. For all
> others they go on sale June 2.
>
> I then asked about ticket prices. He said the VIP
> tickets were $2,500,
> Tier 1 was $1,500 and Tier 2 was $1000. I guess this
> is some special event
> because there is no way I am paying even 1/10 of
> that to go see Sting.
> Maybe someone else can have better luck somewhere
> else, but according to
> that box office number this the deal for
> "Celebration 2000"
>
> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
>
> Take Care, Malav
>
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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Sting on New Years Eve/Tour, Am. Ex.
Date: 16 Apr 1999 16:39:57 -0500

>Funny, I just ordered one for the Delta frequent flier miles, might
>come into good use :-)

Ooooh, just think of all the miles you could get by buying tickets for ALL
of us!!!! ;-)
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From: Gerard Marks <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Another Pyramid and Hugh/Next Tour & Album
Date: 08 Apr 1999 22:22:50 -0700 (PDT)

I agree, time for a new producer, band, manager, everything, change is
good and it has always worked well for Sting.

Also, Sting, if you're listening, on the next tour, please drop the
"When the World/Bring on the Night" medley for something new, I have
been hearing it for your last 14 years of touring, you have a million
other hits you haven't played, just some suggestions, "Bourbon Street",
"I burn for you", "Children's Crusade", "Spirits in a material world",
"Wrapped Around your finger", "Love is the 7th wave", "Lazarus Heart",
"It's probably me"?  Mercury Falling songs on the next tour, "Hounds of
Winter" and "Hung my Head".  Seriously, if I hear BOTN/WTWIRD medley on
the next tour, it'll convince me Sting has thrown in the towel and is
sitting on his laurels.

One last thing, if Vinnie is back to the energy he had on the TST album
and tour, I suggest you keep him, but drop the rest!

Final, final thought, send me an upfront copy of your next album, and
I'll choose the songs you should release.  Since Stewart and Andy are
no longer around, there is no one capable of picking the obvious hits
from your albums, it's simply stupid that Hounds of Winter was not your
first single off your last album.  I promise I won't change the time
signature on your singles to sabotage your great music.

Gerard

--- The Webslinger <[e-mail]> wrote:
> If Sting's truly interested in progression and is
> opposed to the status
> quo--why not try a different producer, especially
> one that's not
> associated with the early to mid 80s pop music
> scene? I'm not suggesting
> Sting try loop freaks like William Orbit, Flood, or
> Bjork's boyfriend,
> but there are other decent producers besides Hugh
> Padgam.



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From: James Norman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) JVC Jazz Fest Info...
Date: 16 Apr 1999 21:38:07 -0500

Hey Gang~

I'm so excited...after a month of searching I finally found some more
info on the supposed Sting show in NY.  Supposed becuase Dave and Wendy
said the Outlandos rep. said that His only confirmed show was for New
Year's.  Anyway, I finally found the official info on the JVC page and
here's the stuff:

-Tickets go on sale May 2nd
-The show is titled Kenny Kirkland:  A Musical Celebration
-It will feature Branford, Jeff "Tain" Watts, Sting and Harry Connick
Jr., and others T.B.A.
-Ticket prices are $50.00, $40.00 and $20.00

I have a feeling that even though Sting hasn't "confirmed," he would
probably make the effort to come and pay homage to his longtime personal
and professional friend.  I live in Minnesota, but I'm definatley going
even if I have to drive.


James

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From: Richard Ryder <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Un Abrazo A La Esperanza & CDR Trading
Date: 09 Apr 1999 17:48:46 -0700 (PDT)

I found this in a record store... Should I buy it? Is it any good?

If I got it would anyone be interested in CDR trading? I have a CDR
drive with DAO mode, and I know how to use it :)

I already have The Art of the Heart (3 CD's original, not cdr's) which
Is available for CDR trading if anyone is interested.  Just be sure you
know how to copy CD's in DAO mode!

The last person I traded with didn't, and I got stuck with 2 second
gaps between all the tracks on what he sent me.  He said he was going
to re-record them, but it's been about 2 months, and I haven't got
anything yet.

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From: "Javier Olaizola" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (police) Un Abrazo A La Esperanza & CDR Trading
Date: 17 Apr 1999 01:53:20 -0500

I don t recommedn UN ABRAZO
it s taken from the Spanish tv live broadcast of the show and isn t very
good quality
The filler is a few songs from the BOTN film, in excellent quality.
Cheers,

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De: Richard Ryder <[e-mail]>
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Fecha: Viernes 16 de Abril de 1999 11:34 PM
Asunto: (police) Un Abrazo A La Esperanza & CDR Trading


>I found this in a record store... Should I buy it? Is it any good?
>
>If I got it would anyone be interested in CDR trading? I have a CDR
>drive with DAO mode, and I know how to use it :)
>
>I already have The Art of the Heart (3 CD's original, not cdr's) which
>Is available for CDR trading if anyone is interested.  Just be sure you
>know how to copy CD's in DAO mode!
>
>The last person I traded with didn't, and I got stuck with 2 second
>gaps between all the tracks on what he sent me.  He said he was going
>to re-record them, but it's been about 2 months, and I haven't got
>anything yet.
>
>Rich
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Subject: (police) OT: Puff Daddy
Date: 17 Apr 1999 01:07:14 -0700 (PDT)

US rapper Sean "Puffy" Combs charged with assault

By Jeanne King

NEW YORK, April 16 (Reuters) - Rapper Sean ``Puffy'' Combs was charged
in New York City on Friday in connection with an
assault on a record executive who was found cowering in his office
after being beaten with a champagne bottle.

Combs, 29, who surrendered to police voluntarily, was released from
Manhattan criminal court after posting $15,000 in bail.

Combs, who did not enter a plea, faces up to seven years in prison if
convicted on the charges of assault and criminal mischief. He
is to return to court on June 24.

``He will be vindicated in court when the time comes,'' said defense
lawyer Jay Goldberg, refusing to discuss the allegations against Combs.

Assistant District Attorney Ina Scherl said Combs and two others struck
Universal Records executive Steve Stoute with a champagne bottle, a
chair and a telephone
at his midtown office.

She said Stoute's arm was believed to be fractured. The other two
individuals have not been apprehended.

A company employee found Stoute, 28, in his office ``crouched in the
fetal position,'' Scherl said. She added that Stoute was ``trying to
protect his head and had his
hands over him and said he couldn't see who struck him.''

When police arrived, they found him lying on his back, his face and arm
covered in blood. He was taken to a hospital and released to his
private physician.

In seeking a high bail, the prosecutor told the judge that Combs had
been convicted in 1996 of criminal mischief in a plea deal after a
robbery.

The New York Daily News on Friday quoted a music insider as saying
Combs and Stoute had fallen out over a music video in which the rap
star is nailed to a cross
and says, ``I think I like this.''

After the taping, Combs reportedly changed his mind. ``But it just
premiered on MTV with the scene still in there, and Puffy felt that was
Steve's fault,'' the Daily
News's source said.

Combs is the CEO of Bad Boy Entertainment, the leading producer of
hip-hop records. His own rap album, ``No Way Out,'' has sold five
million copies.

In January, a judge ruled that Combs and Dwight ``Heavy D'' Myers and
the state of New York shared responsibility for a Dec. 28, 1991,
stampede that left nine
people dead and 29 others injured at an AIDS charity event at the City
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Subject: Re: (police) OT: Puff Daddy
Date: 17 Apr 1999 09:15:22 -0400


Hi All,

I Personally wish the Police Stuff would be left alone by rappers! I think
that puff remix stinks. No offense to Mr. Puff Daddy but to redo Police
material this way does'nt impress me. I think the rap version of Roxanne is
a joke, and it really makes the best of sting and the Police of no interest
to me. I know rappers commonly borrow rock tunes and redo them, I am a fan
of none of it. As for original rap, I have no problem with that! Just leave
the Police stuff alone, those versions make me want to vomit.

Take Care,
Terrence

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From: "Karel Van Isacker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) OT: Puff Daddy
Date: 17 Apr 1999 15:56:40 +0200

>I Personally wish the Police Stuff would be left alone by rappers! I think
>that puff remix stinks. No offense to Mr. Puff Daddy but to redo Police
>material this way does'nt impress me. I think the rap version of Roxanne is
>a joke, and it really makes the best of sting and the Police of no interest
>to me. I know rappers commonly borrow rock tunes and redo them, I am a fan
>of none of it. As for original rap, I have no problem with that! Just leave
>the Police stuff alone, those versions make me want to vomit.
Exactly ...... although i did like 2Pac's version of Bruce Hornsby & The
Ranch's "The Way It Is" ... but Roxanne 97????????????  My God, crap crap
crap crap!!!  And I'll be missing you ..... uhm, did anyone notice that
there's definitely a part at the end where the syntesizer plays wrong .....
(especially very audible on the instrumental version of I'll be missing
you....).

Cheers,
Karel


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From: "Karel Van Isacker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Backing Vocals & Thanks to you all!
Date: 17 Apr 1999 15:48:13 +0200

>Then where were the distinctive female voices coming from that we all
>heard during the MF tour version of If You Love Somebody?!?
What about no backing vocals at all, no sequencing .....?  Just pure live
stuff like in the early Police days, i think quite some people prefer tha=
t
to those cheap backing vocalists who succeed in f*cking up live performan=
ces
..... I love the backings from Stew and Andy?  Although they both needed
singing lessons ;-)
Also want to thank all those that supported me the last weeks with their
mails to ask me about my health .... thank you especially Martin, Terrenc=
e,
Juan, Greg, Javier, R=FCdiger, Floris, Rich, Marissa, Jeroen, Magda, Jun,
Richard, Jeff, Maurizio, Martin, Simon, Ross, Kaija, Aaron, Kimberly, Jam=
es,
Malav, .... and all those i forgot!  You all have been a real support.

Cheers and a very nice weekend to you all,
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From: "terrence sheehan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Sampling(one last thought)
Date: 17 Apr 1999 12:57:33 -0400


One last thought on the topic, I'll except a rap track on the Police and
Sting Greatest Hits when Metallica Has a rap track on their greatest hits!
In other words NOT!!!!NO WAY!!!!NEVER!!!! That was the most classless thing
the record label could do in my opinion. I mean how do you have continuity
of an album if you go from a Police song to a Rap song, I still don't get
it?

Take Care,
Terrence Sheehan

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From: Jason Startt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Sampling -- Hornsby/Sting
Date: 17 Apr 1999 13:00:43 -0400

Does anyone know at which venue this concert was held?  Does anyone have it
on tape?  I'm from Hampton Roads, and I had no idea this grouping had taken
place, although I am not surprised.

Bruce Hornsby is from Williamsburg, VA, and he frequently makes appearances
in artist's shows who are travelling through this area.  My sister saw the
Dave Matthews Band at the Hampton Colliseum on New Years Eve (in '95 or
'96?), Bruce came out at midnight and did an awesome rendition of 'All
along the watchtower'.

Sting and Bruce are two of my favorites, if anyone has any info on this
show, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks,
Jason



>And to link Hornsby and Sting, the two played together on March 4, 1991 in
>Hampton Roads, Virginia.  Sting introduced Hornsby as his "favorite
>Virginian."  Hornsby guested on "Every Breath You Take."  And finally,
>Hornsby and Sting both have an affinity for the stylings of one Branford
>Marsalis.  We all know about Branford's presence on several Sting albums,
>but Branford features quite prominently on Hornsby's *Harbor Lights* --
>simply a perfect album.
>
>Michael
>--------------
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Schmitz)
Subject: (police) Q-sound/somewhat OT
Date: 17 Apr 1999 12:07:42 -0500 (CDT)

Someone said:

Has anyone had much luck with Q-sound? I popped in the Soul Cages on my
dad's 1960's Sansui reciever and during 'Why Should I Cry For You' I
kept hearing the water drop sound effect (that repeats during the whole
song) appear to move back and forth (not right and left). I always that
it was a pretty neat trick, but I had to stand in just the right spot
for it to happen. Anyone else had the same or similar experiences?

There is a "sweet spot" where the q-sound effect is best. This spot is
an equal distance directly in front of your speakers and in the exact
center of the 2 as your speakers are distant from one another.
(Confusing, huh? I didn't explain that very well.) If your speakers are
6 feet apart, the sweet spot is 6 feet in front and in the center. I
assume this spot could move using your balance control.
The far and away best example of q-sound is on the song "Vogue" on the
soundtrack from Dick Tracy "I'm Breathless: Music From And Inspired By
The Film Dick Tracy"
Q-sound is now being used on several home and portable audio units
including boomboxes and vcr's. I can't say I heard this new type of
Q-sound, so I can't say if it's any good.
I don't specifically hear the drip effect move to and fro, but I can
hear it. I don't have a truly(?) Hi-Fi stereo, though, just a $1000 Sony
unit.

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From: "Ross Viner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) OT: Puff Daddy-  coverup!!!!!
Date: 17 Apr 1999 10:27:08 -0700

>NEW YORK, April 16 (Reuters) - Rapper Sean ``Puffy'' Combs was charged
>in New York City on Friday in connection with an


Ok, I have some inside information here.  This is a cover up of the greatest
kind.  You see, it wasn't puff daddy who christened that executive wit the
Champaign bottle.  IT was Sting in a fit of rage over Puffy baby butchering
his music.   Makes more sense, don't it? :)

I mean the exec admitted not being able to see his assailant, right?  So how
do we know it Wasn't Sting? :)  Makes more sense to me.

Have a good day all,
Ross

PS:  For the hypersensitive, this was a joke, and I of course wish the exec
full recovery.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (police) OT: Puff Daddy
Date: 17 Apr 1999 21:21:48 EDT

Puffy was a thief and thug before his so called career,a thief and thug now...
that record exec got off easy,Puffy,and his entourage of thugs could have
just has easily been packing a gun.

Not too bright solving problems with violence.It doesn't matter what his
background and upbringing was,he should ahve been able to rise above it,I
don't think it was just a human mistake, just some narcsisstic sociopath not
getting his way.No excuses.

Not too good for his career,who knows when it comes time for the record
company to promote him, or his next album,they'll all sit on thier hands in
protest.
I have never met a bullet proof record exec...

This is the meanest thing I have ever written, I just don't know what came
over me...
Andrea

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (police) re{police}:puff daddy...
Date: 18 Apr 1999 02:34:10 EDT

i guess some people will never learn...

"nothing comes from violence and nothing ever could...."

well all i can add is...

"For all those born beneath an angry star
Lest we forget how fragile we are"


my two cents
Sarah
"let your soul be your pilot, let your soul guide you well"

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From: "DB" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) WSICFY/NY tribute to Kenny
Date: 18 Apr 1999 21:45:53 +0100

Hi you good people !!!

1. Can anybody tell me who played keyboard on the Soul Cages song "Why
shouldd I cry for you" ??? Both Kenny and David are listed in the liner...


2. Is anybody of the UK gang going to the JVC Jazz Festival in New York
????


Thanx a lot,
Sister Moon

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From: "Josh Corwin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) rainforest question
Date: 18 Apr 1999 18:28:54 -0400

Hey gang...I started to think (smoky smell is my brain catching fire) and I
was wondering why they never made any cd of the rainforest concert. I would
imagine that Sting, James Taylor, Madonna, and Elton would be more than
happy to have their songs recorded and given away as a once a year deal to
benefit the rainforest. Perhaps the biggest fact is that they do not have
ownership of the songs or publishing rights. However, even a mini
compilation of the songs by the artists who do own them would be remarkable.
They could even use it as a means of experimentally testing new recycled or
more environmentally sound packaging. Maybe I am missing something here, but
it seems like a great idea to me.
-Josh

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From: Alex Taylor <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (police) re{police}:puff daddy...
Date: 19 Apr 1999 08:51:34 +1000

I just have to...

In the liner notes from Message in a Box, didn't Stewart say that when they
re-appeared for the 86 album, Sting turned up after a row with Stewart with
a bunch of roses and a switchblade...?

> ----------
> From:     [e-mail][SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Reply To:     [e-mail]
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> To:     [e-mail]
> Subject:     (police) re{police}:puff daddy...
>
> i guess some people will never learn...
>
> "nothing comes from violence and nothing ever could...."
>
> well all i can add is...
>
> "For all those born beneath an angry star
> Lest we forget how fragile we are"
>
>
> my two cents
> Sarah
> "let your soul be your pilot, let your soul guide you well"
>
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From: Erin Sorensen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) OT: Puff Daddy
Date: 18 Apr 1999 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT)

Being a die hard, I was extremely ticked with the
crummy remakes, but kids, let's not forget, Sting is
the one who sold out.  It was a collaboration effort
on both parts.....

--- [e-mail] wrote:
> Puffy was a thief and thug before his so called
> career,a thief and thug now...
> that record exec got off easy,Puffy,and his
> entourage of thugs could have
> just has easily been packing a gun.
>
> Not too bright solving problems with violence.It
> doesn't matter what his
> background and upbringing was,he should ahve been
> able to rise above it,I
> don't think it was just a human mistake, just some
> narcsisstic sociopath not
> getting his way.No excuses.
>
> Not too good for his career,who knows when it comes
> time for the record
> company to promote him, or his next album,they'll
> all sit on thier hands in
> protest.
> I have never met a bullet proof record exec...
>
> This is the meanest thing I have ever written, I
> just don't know what came
> over me...
> Andrea
>
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From: Jeff Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) show on Bravo
Date: 18 Apr 1999 21:40:03 -0300

A note for my fellow Canucks (or those who get Bravo in the US).

Arts & Minds will be featuring Music Bridges over Troubled Waters (from a
few weeks ago).  They did not specifically mention Andy or Stew, but I
thought that it would be worth a look.

The show will air April 24 at 6pm and April 25 at 7pm EST.

Anne



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From: "Josh Corwin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) ***THE LEMON TREE*** HOPEFULLY THE FINAL WORD
Date: 18 Apr 1999 21:43:03 -0400

Okay gang. Some people sent me some emails claiming that the song that I
have is not by Sting and is in fact the fool's garden version. Due to the
fact that I have a little spare time after taking the MCAT (YES!!!), I put
two different sound clips up on my webpage. They are of the exact same line
in two different versions. each is an mp3 and is about six seconds in
length. I am still willing to not make myself look like an idiot by saying
that if someone has the version I claim is Sting and can tell me undenyably
that it is someone else, then I will graciously apologize for making such a
big deal of it and will also have a new person to listen to as this sounds
too much like Sting to not be him....so without any further waiting....

http://gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~muppet/sting/sounds/stinglemon.mp3   "Sting"
version
http://gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~muppet/sting/sounds/fglemon.mp3         Fool's
Garden Version
let me know what you guys think of all this when you have the
chance...thanks, and please NO FLAMES if I turn out to be a big idiot....
-Josh




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From: "Ross Viner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) ***THE LEMON TREE*** HOPEFULLY THE FINAL WORD
Date: 18 Apr 1999 19:04:18 -0700

>
>http://gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~muppet/sting/sounds/stinglemon.mp3   "Sting"
>version
>http://gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~muppet/sting/sounds/fglemon.mp3         Fool's


Well It sounds more like Sting than Nek, but to be honest, I don't think it
is Sting.  Actually, it could be a deep voiced women.
Thanks for the clip.
Anyway, hoping I'm wrong,
Ross


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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Javier_Mac=EDas_B=2E=22?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) ***THE LEMON TREE*** HOPEFULLY THE FINAL WORD
Date: 18 Apr 1999 23:25:31 -0600

Hey! it really sounds like sting=B4s voice!!!! we need to look for more
informaton about this, pretty interesting audio clip!!=20

Javier :-)
>Well It sounds more like Sting than Nek, but to be honest, I don't think it
>is Sting.  Actually, it could be a deep voiced women.
>Thanks for the clip.
>Anyway, hoping I'm wrong,
>Ross
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From: David Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (police) ***THE LEMON TREE*** HOPEFULLY THE FINAL WORD
Date: 19 Apr 1999 11:27:33 +0100

Well, I think there is a remarkable resemblance to Sting in both versions
and I think if I heard either on the radio I would be convinced it was him.
The "Sting" version is admittedly more convincing than the other one. I
think what makes it sound even more like Sting is the similarity in melody
to the verses in Wrapped Around Your Finger - anyone else catch that?

Cheers

Dave


> ----------
> From:     Josh Corwin[SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Reply To:     Josh Corwin
> Sent:     19 April 1999 02:43
> To:     Police
> Subject:     (police) ***THE LEMON TREE*** HOPEFULLY THE FINAL WORD
>
> Okay gang. Some people sent me some emails claiming that the song that I
> have is not by Sting and is in fact the fool's garden version. Due to the
> fact that I have a little spare time after taking the MCAT (YES!!!), I put
> two different sound clips up on my webpage. They are of the exact same
> line
> in two different versions. each is an mp3 and is about six seconds in
> length. I am still willing to not make myself look like an idiot by saying
> that if someone has the version I claim is Sting and can tell me
> undenyably
> that it is someone else, then I will graciously apologize for making such
> a
> big deal of it and will also have a new person to listen to as this sounds
> too much like Sting to not be him....so without any further waiting....
>
> http://gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~muppet/sting/sounds/stinglemon.mp3   "Sting"
> version
> http://gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~muppet/sting/sounds/fglemon.mp3         Fool's
> Garden Version
> let me know what you guys think of all this when you have the
> chance...thanks, and please NO FLAMES if I turn out to be a big idiot....
> -Josh
>
>
>
>
> Josh Corwin
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From: David Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (police) ***THE LEMON TREE*** HOPEFULLY THE FINAL WORD
Date: 19 Apr 1999 11:42:42 +0100

Further to my last comment, if you have an MP3 player with variable pitch
control, setting it to about 95% makes fplemon sound more like Sting. After
a few more listens however, even at the slowed down speed, there are
intonations that are clearly not Sting. However, having listened to
stinglemon many times, I still could not be certain it wasn't him.

Cheers

Dave



> ----------
> From:     Josh Corwin[SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Reply To:     Josh Corwin
> Sent:     19 April 1999 02:43
> To:     Police
> Subject:     (police) ***THE LEMON TREE*** HOPEFULLY THE FINAL WORD
>
> Okay gang. Some people sent me some emails claiming that the song that I
> have is not by Sting and is in fact the fool's garden version. Due to the
> fact that I have a little spare time after taking the MCAT (YES!!!), I put
> two different sound clips up on my webpage. They are of the exact same
> line
> in two different versions. each is an mp3 and is about six seconds in
> length. I am still willing to not make myself look like an idiot by saying
> that if someone has the version I claim is Sting and can tell me
> undenyably
> that it is someone else, then I will graciously apologize for making such
> a
> big deal of it and will also have a new person to listen to as this sounds
> too much like Sting to not be him....so without any further waiting....
>
> http://gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~muppet/sting/sounds/stinglemon.mp3   "Sting"
> version
> http://gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~muppet/sting/sounds/fglemon.mp3         Fool's
> Garden Version
> let me know what you guys think of all this when you have the
> chance...thanks, and please NO FLAMES if I turn out to be a big idiot....
> -Josh
>
>
>
>
> Josh Corwin
> [phone]
> [e-mail]
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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) What broke the camel's back
Date: 19 Apr 1999 08:17:25 -0400

Alex Taylor wrote:

> In the liner notes from Message in a Box, didn't Stewart say that when they
> re-appeared for the 86 album, Sting turned up after a row with Stewart with
> a bunch of roses and a switchblade...?

Stew, in an online interview, mentioned that what really made Sting angry was
Stewart's narration (right in front of Sting) of a review concerning Sting's
poor acting ability in the movie, The Bride. Sting, at the time, never forgave
Stewart.

Regards,
--
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From: "winca" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) ***THE LEMON TREE*** HOPEFULLY THE FINAL WORD
Date: 19 Apr 1999 14:15:48 +0200

Hi all !

I'm very interested who will say the final word!

As I wrote in the past - when I'd heard that song for the first time I
really thought it was Sting.

I've those two files downloaded now and listen it and listen - but I still
think it is not Sting. There is something "strange" in Stinglemon version
but I do not know what it is.

Does exist complete song of Sting version?

Cheers
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From: "Martin Vauchel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) LEMON TREE
Date: 19 Apr 1999 14:21:44 +0200

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Hey!!!

I listen to the fool's version a little bit slowed down, and I think =
you've touched the right point. I'm not sure but it's going very much =
closer of the "sting"'s version.
What makes me think this is the right thing is that when you slow te =
fool's=20
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(the key)
of the so called "Sting"'s version.
For myself I can't imagine Sting singing that song, and if he had ever =
sing it
and more RECORDED it I think that at least a few member of that =
speciallized
list would have known it.

Cheers
Martin
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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Sampling(one last thought)
Date: 19 Apr 1999 08:44:15 -0500

>One last thought on the topic, I'll except a rap track on the Police and
>Sting Greatest Hits when Metallica Has a rap track on their greatest hits!
>In other words NOT!!!!NO WAY!!!!NEVER!!!! That was the most classless thing
>the record label could do in my opinion. I mean how do you have continuity
>of an album if you go from a Police song to a Rap song, I still don't get
>it?

You know, I hate to say it, but I liked rap back when it belonged to
Blondie...
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From: cHriS <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) re: Sampling(one last thought)
Date: 19 Apr 1999 11:11:23 -0600

>>One last thought on the topic, I'll except a rap track on the Police and
>>Sting Greatest Hits when Metallica Has a rap track on their greatest hits!
>>In other words NOT!!!!NO WAY!!!!NEVER!!!! That was the most classless thing
>>the record label could do in my opinion. I mean how do you have continuity
>>of an album if you go from a Police song to a Rap song, I still don't get
>>it?
>
>You know, I hate to say it, but I liked rap back when it belonged to
>Blondie...
>_________________
>wee kimberleen
>"Love which is not madness is not love."


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From: "beesting" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Sting on usatoday newspaper
Date: 19 Apr 1999 16:51:21 -0400

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a funny picture of Sting with Elton John during the Rainforest =
Foundation concert.  Sting and Elton john are holding hands and just =
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From: "Julie Poliquin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Rainforest Concert
Date: 19 Apr 1999 17:17:14 -0400

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Hi folks,

Back from New York... Great weekend, OK show. Sting looked hansome and =
incredibly young. Trudie was ravishingly beautiful.

Tony Bennett stole the show but Sting was marvelous singing "In the Wee =
Small Hours of the Morning".=20

Got a glimpse of all the stars coming out of the CH and passed Trudie =
standing in front of her building. Who knows, a few seconds later or =
earlier and I could have realised a lifelong dream and shook the MAN's =
hand.

Next year maybe.

I'm beat so I'll have a more complete account of the show later.

Salut du Qu=E9bec

Jules

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Back from New York... Great weekend, OK show. Sting =
looked=20
hansome and incredibly young. Trudie was ravishingly =
beautiful.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Tony Bennett stole the show but Sting was marvelous =
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and passed=20
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or=20
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show=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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From: "Mayra J. Vega" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Sting on usatoday newspaper
Date: 19 Apr 1999 17:45:34 -0500

At 04:51 PM 19/04/99 -0400, beesting wrote:=20
>
> On today's paper (USA TODAY), in the Life section of the paper, there is a
> funny picture of Sting with Elton John during the Rainforest Foundation
> concert.=A0 Sting and Elton john are holding hands and just like married
> couples with Sting wearing a bridal veil, and dancing around Elton john
arms.


This picture is showed in a spanish newspaper web page, here's the URL:

<http://www.elpais.es/p/d/19990419/gente/portada.htm#ocho>http://www.elpais
.es/p/d/19990419/gente/portada.htm#ocho

Here's the translation:
" Rockers Elton John and Sting, with a veil, dance to the rhythm of love and
wedding during the annual rainforest festival, which was held last Saturday=
 in
New York (Reuters)"

Mayra


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From: [e-mail] (amaryll)
Subject: Re: (police) Rainforest Concert
Date: 19 Apr 1999 18:52:45 -0400

Julie, glad you had a good time and thanks for the report!
Marilyn


>Hi folks,
>
>Back from New York... Great weekend, OK show. Sting looked hansome and
>incredibly young. Trudie was ravishingly beautiful.
>
>Tony Bennett stole the show but Sting was marvelous singing "In the Wee
>Small Hours of the Morning".
>
>Got a glimpse of all the stars coming out of the CH and passed Trudie
>standing in front of her building. Who knows, a few seconds later or
>earlier and I could have realised a lifelong dream and shook the MAN's
>hand.
>
>Next year maybe.
>
>I'm beat so I'll have a more complete account of the show later.
>
>Salut du Qu=E9bec
>
>Jules
>
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><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Hi folks,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>Back from New York... Great weekend, OK show. Sting loo=
ked
>hansome and incredibly young. Trudie was ravishingly beautiful.</FONT></DIV=
>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>Tony Bennett stole the show but Sting was marvelous sin=
ging
>"In the Wee Small Hours of the Morning". </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>Got a glimpse of all the stars coming out of the CH and
>passed
>Trudie standing in front of her building. Who knows, a few seconds later or
>earlier and I could have realised a lifelong dream and shook the MAN's
>hand.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>Next year maybe.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>I'm beat so I'll have a more complete account of the sh=
ow
>later.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>Salut du Québec</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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From: "Hilary L. Justh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) More rainforest concert pics!
Date: 19 Apr 1999 17:28:47 -0600 (MDT)

Hello,

Just saw a new picture of Sting and Billy Joel on the USA Today web site
along with a little article about the concert at:

http://www.usatoday.com/life/enter/music/lemindex.htm

Bye!
Hilary






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From: "Quinn Tisdell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:14:47 PDT
Date: 19 Apr 1999 19:15:31 -0600

 Hi all,
      I'm doing an essay on 80's metal and punk rock for school, and
I'd like to have some opinions on the fav 10 artists/groups of the
80's in both heavy metal and punk, and who you think is the top group
overall.  If I don't get at least 10 responses, my teacher will force
me to use a different subject for my essay, so I'm counting on you
dudes.   Personally, the only 80's punk or metal groups I give a crap
about are  the Police(of course),  Def Leppard, Billy Idol, and Van
Halen.
  I'd prefer all responses be sent to my email address, and not
posted on the list. It would make it much easier.
   Peace, and y'all have a fine Stingy week!

                                                 "Big Mac"Quinn


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From: Jeff Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Sampling(one last thought)
Date: 20 Apr 1999 00:45:40 -0300

At 08:44 AM 4/19/99 -0500, you wrote:

>You know, I hate to say it, but I liked rap back when it belonged to
>Blondie...
>_________________
>wee kimberleen

Yeah!  Rapture rules....

Anne
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From: "Jun F. Veloso" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) sting's nylon
Date: 20 Apr 1999 12:49:55 +0800

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i see him using a red an a yellow nylon... is it a chet atkins?

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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) sting's nylon
Date: 20 Apr 1999 09:04:50 -0500

At 12:49 PM 4/20/99 +0800, Jun F. Veloso wrote:
>    what exactly does sting use for his  finale on his live set? i see him
>using a red an a yellow  nylon... is it a chet atkins?

When Sting played here in Nashville on the NLTS tour, Chet Atkins GAVE
Sting a guitar that day that he played for the first time that night on
"Fragile."  Very nice.  I hate to say I don't know much about it, it was an
acoustic with a molded back.
_________________
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (police) Sting in a Wonderbra Commercial!
Date: 20 Apr 1999 14:04:13 EDT

Last night I was watching a show called "Inside Edition" and they played a
little clip on Sting when he was in a Wonderbra commercial from 1978.  He's
only in the commercial for just a split second.  The camera pans by him
playing a pinball machine, then quickly goes on to the women in their
'skivies'!  :-)  I got it all on tape, definitely one to hold on to!

Later guys
Amy
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From: "Hilary L. Justh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Sting in a Wonderbra Commercial!
Date: 20 Apr 1999 12:10:27 -0600 (MDT)

Hello,

I saw that also, but it was on "Before they were stars" this weekend on
VH1.  I had never seen that clip before.  They also showed a clip of him
as Ace Face and some of the DSSCTM video while he was discussing being a
teacher.

Bye!
Hilary





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From: "antoni" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Newcastle Jazz Band
Date: 18 Mar 1999 06:05:12 +0100

Hi,

  I'm coming from a trip to Switzerland and I was last Saturday afternoon
in Basel and I'm very surprised to see a promo poster of a Jazz Festival
with a band called Newcastle Jazz Band!!!.They play live in a special ven=
ue
on the street on Saturday morning  but  I don't have oportunity to ask
anybody about that.

   I don't know, but , maybe is a band fromed with members of the old
Newcastle Big Band.I saw a few minutes the last band who played on this
Festival and their music are very simeilar to the one who makes  the
Newcastle Big Band.

   Thanks

Toni Carb=F3

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From: your sequin baby! <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) RE: Sting in a Wonderbra Commercial!
Date: 20 Apr 1999 21:06:48 -0800

Amy wrote:
>Last night I was watching a show called "Inside Edition" and they played a
>little clip on Sting when he was in a Wonderbra commercial from 1978.


Hilary followed:
>I saw that also, but it was on "Before they were stars" this weekend on
>VH1.


In the old book THE POLICE:  A VISUAL DOCUMENTARY, Sting comments on this
commercial.  It was the very early part of 1978 and the commercial was for
Triumph bras:

    "I had to grope Joanna Lumley's tits."

Granted, VH-1 didn't show the entire commercial, but *I* certainly didn't
see any "groping."  I should have remembered *that*!

Sting was also in a Brutus Jeans ad around the same time:

    "Remember, with all the pinball machines?
    There was this really randy chick flashing
    her tits at me for six hours of filming.
    It nearly drove me mad!"


Hmmmm....I'm beginning to detect a theme here!  Rather than milk it for all
it's worth, I think it might be wiser to move on.  Actually, it sounds
suspiciously like these two are the same commercial.  Perhaps someone who
actually saw both of them waaaaaaaaay back when can verify this.


Mitch
______________________________________________________
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        She dressed like Texas/wide open spaces...
            She was atomic/Without a doubt
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From: Dave & Wendy <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Article about "The Lovers"
Date: 21 Apr 1999 08:13:29 +0100

Today's Heat magazine in the UK carries the following article:

"Sting is set to return with his first album since 1996's "Mercury
Falling". It has the working title of "The Lovers" and will be
released in October. Sting has been recording for most of the year in
his Tuscan villa, on the home studio he transported from his Wiltshire
mansion. Five tracks are fully mixed, among them two ballads. The
album, which Sting is producing himself, features the same musicians
who played on "Mercury Falling" and contributions from guests
including Talvin Singh, who remixed Madonna last year, and Algerian
rai singer Cheb Mami.

Insiders say the album marries a predominantly eastern flavour to
dance beats and hooky pop tunes. "The music's quite intricate but
there's no posing involved," said one. "It's not world music. It's
quite modern and diverse, he's definitely broadened his horizons."

Several of the songs took shape while Sting was demoing at the old A&M
in-house studio in Los Angeles at the start of this year. He plans to
tour the new album in November."

Cheers
Wendy & Dave



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From: [e-mail] (Nick Dixon)
Subject: (police) "Andy plays pizza place"
Date: 21 Apr 1999 08:14:00 GMT

The UK newspaper "The Mirror" ran a stupid story on Monday suggesting
that Andy Summers was so desperate and down on his luck that he was
now doing gigs at Pizza Parlours in London. The writer did eventually
say that Pizza Express was actually a jazz venue specially chosen by
Andy for the intimate surroundings, but by then he had already done
the damage.

Nick
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From: "Winca" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) address
Date: 21 Apr 1999 13:24:12 +0200

Hi all!

I'm sorry I just try connection because of changing my address.

Thanks
Winca

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From: Malav Trivedi <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) show on Bravo
Date: 21 Apr 1999 11:19:14 -0400 (EDT)


Hey Jeff,

Are you sure that it is on Bravo in the US, because I checked the Bravo
web site and it said nothing about the Bridges Over Troubled Water thing?

Take Care, Malav

On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, Jeff Smith wrote:

> A note for my fellow Canucks (or those who get Bravo in the US).
>
> Arts & Minds will be featuring Music Bridges over Troubled Waters (from a
> few weeks ago).  They did not specifically mention Andy or Stew, but I
> thought that it would be worth a look.
>
> The show will air April 24 at 6pm and April 25 at 7pm EST.
>
> Anne
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Subject: Re: (police) show on Bravo/Dance Music
Date: 21 Apr 1999 11:34:40 -0400

Malav Trivedi wrote:

> Are you sure that it is on Bravo in the US, because I checked the Bravo
> web site and it said nothing about the Bridges Over Troubled Water thing?

I believe the Canadian Bravo channel and the US Bravo channel are not the same.

I just read the article that Dave and Wendy posted. "dance music"???? (no more
Sister moon remixes *scratch* no more Sister Moon remixes *scratch* no more
Sister Moon remixes *scratch*)

Oh well, at the very worst, Sting will produce music that will make people
think (the lyrics) while they dance--unless he writes something like "You Still
Touch Me" again.

Regards,
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From: "antoni" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Newcastle Jazz Band
Date: 18 Mar 1999 06:05:12 +0100

Hi,

  I'm coming from a trip to Switzerland and I was last Saturday afternoon
in Basel and I'm very surprised to see a promo poster of a Jazz Festival
with a band called Newcastle Jazz Band!!!.They play live in a special ven=
ue
on the street on Saturday morning  but  I don't have oportunity to ask
anybody about that.

   I don't know, but , maybe is a band fromed with members of the old
Newcastle Big Band.I saw a few minutes the last band who played on this
Festival and their music are very simeilar to the one who makes  the
Newcastle Big Band.

   Thanks

Toni Carb=F3

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Subject: Re: (police) show on Bravo/Dance Music
Date: 21 Apr 1999 11:34:40 -0400

Malav Trivedi wrote:

> Are you sure that it is on Bravo in the US, because I checked the Bravo
> web site and it said nothing about the Bridges Over Troubled Water thing?

I believe the Canadian Bravo channel and the US Bravo channel are not the same.

I just read the article that Dave and Wendy posted. "dance music"???? (no more
Sister moon remixes *scratch* no more Sister Moon remixes *scratch* no more
Sister Moon remixes *scratch*)

Oh well, at the very worst, Sting will produce music that will make people
think (the lyrics) while they dance--unless he writes something like "You Still
Touch Me" again.

Regards,
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From: Malav Trivedi <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) show on Bravo
Date: 21 Apr 1999 11:19:14 -0400 (EDT)


Hey Jeff,

Are you sure that it is on Bravo in the US, because I checked the Bravo
web site and it said nothing about the Bridges Over Troubled Water thing?

Take Care, Malav

On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, Jeff Smith wrote:

> A note for my fellow Canucks (or those who get Bravo in the US).
>
> Arts & Minds will be featuring Music Bridges over Troubled Waters (from a
> few weeks ago).  They did not specifically mention Andy or Stew, but I
> thought that it would be worth a look.
>
> The show will air April 24 at 6pm and April 25 at 7pm EST.
>
> Anne
>
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From: "Winca" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) address
Date: 21 Apr 1999 13:24:12 +0200

Hi all!

I'm sorry I just try connection because of changing my address.

Thanks
Winca

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From: [e-mail] (Nick Dixon)
Subject: (police) "Andy plays pizza place"
Date: 21 Apr 1999 08:14:00 GMT

The UK newspaper "The Mirror" ran a stupid story on Monday suggesting
that Andy Summers was so desperate and down on his luck that he was
now doing gigs at Pizza Parlours in London. The writer did eventually
say that Pizza Express was actually a jazz venue specially chosen by
Andy for the intimate surroundings, but by then he had already done
the damage.

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From: [e-mail] (Nick Dixon)
Subject: (police) "Andy plays pizza place"
Date: 21 Apr 1999 08:14:00 GMT

The UK newspaper "The Mirror" ran a stupid story on Monday suggesting
that Andy Summers was so desperate and down on his luck that he was
now doing gigs at Pizza Parlours in London. The writer did eventually
say that Pizza Express was actually a jazz venue specially chosen by
Andy for the intimate surroundings, but by then he had already done
the damage.

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From: "Winca" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) address
Date: 21 Apr 1999 13:24:12 +0200

Hi all!

I'm sorry I just try connection because of changing my address.

Thanks
Winca

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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) show on Bravo/Dance Music
Date: 21 Apr 1999 11:34:40 -0400

Malav Trivedi wrote:

> Are you sure that it is on Bravo in the US, because I checked the Bravo
> web site and it said nothing about the Bridges Over Troubled Water thing?

I believe the Canadian Bravo channel and the US Bravo channel are not the same.

I just read the article that Dave and Wendy posted. "dance music"???? (no more
Sister moon remixes *scratch* no more Sister Moon remixes *scratch* no more
Sister Moon remixes *scratch*)

Oh well, at the very worst, Sting will produce music that will make people
think (the lyrics) while they dance--unless he writes something like "You Still
Touch Me" again.

Regards,
--
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From: Malav Trivedi <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) show on Bravo
Date: 21 Apr 1999 11:19:14 -0400 (EDT)


Hey Jeff,

Are you sure that it is on Bravo in the US, because I checked the Bravo
web site and it said nothing about the Bridges Over Troubled Water thing?

Take Care, Malav

On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, Jeff Smith wrote:

> A note for my fellow Canucks (or those who get Bravo in the US).
>
> Arts & Minds will be featuring Music Bridges over Troubled Waters (from a
> few weeks ago).  They did not specifically mention Andy or Stew, but I
> thought that it would be worth a look.
>
> The show will air April 24 at 6pm and April 25 at 7pm EST.
>
> Anne
>
>
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From: "M.J. Vlasveld" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Rainforest reviews
Date: 21 Apr 1999 20:58:03 +0200

Hi Wendy and Dave, Hi All,

Thanks for your nice news about the new Sting album. Looking forward to
that one!!

I found some Rainforest reviews i like to tell you all about.
You can find one on the site of the Los Angelas Times. You can easily
find the link on the home page of the James Taylor site:

http://www.james-taylor.com

There also is an eyewittnes review (including tracklist) on the Elton
John website (in the news selection):

http://www.eltonfan.com

The USA VH-1 TV Channel will be re-broadcasting 'before they were stars'
this friday at 12.00 pm.
For more information check:

http://www.rockontv.com



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From: Richard Ryder <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Branford in Boston TONIGHT
Date: 21 Apr 1999 15:01:01 -0700 (PDT)

Hi just found out today from one of my coworkers that Branford Marsalis
will be playing at the Charles Hotel in Cambridge tonight at the
Regatta Bar.  Showtime is 7PM.

He's going to be playing there now thru Sunday according to my friend,
I haven't been able to double check this and don't have any other info
at this time though.

Rich

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From: "juan galie" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) The Mighty
Date: 21 Apr 1999 19:08:45 -0600

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Anyone know where to find an mp3 of this song. In Argentina we haven't =
gotten the movie nor the CD yet. Thanks.

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this song.=20
In Argentina we haven't gotten the movie nor the CD yet.=20
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From: "juan galie" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (police) Article about "The Lovers"
Date: 21 Apr 1999 20:14:14 -0600

The article is short but has a lot of information packed into it. What
caught my eye is that it says that he's producing it himself. That's a
change! Also, it says that he's into eastern music now, pretty unexpected.
And finally, that it has the same musicians as Mercury Falling; my question
would be, who is replacing Kenny Kirkland?
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Dave & Wendy <[e-mail]>
Para: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Fecha: MiΘrcoles, 21 de Abril de 1999 01:33
Asunto: (police) Article about "The Lovers"


>Today's Heat magazine in the UK carries the following article:
>
>"Sting is set to return with his first album since 1996's "Mercury
>Falling". It has the working title of "The Lovers" and will be
>released in October. Sting has been recording for most of the year in
>his Tuscan villa, on the home studio he transported from his Wiltshire
>mansion. Five tracks are fully mixed, among them two ballads. The
>album, which Sting is producing himself, features the same musicians
>who played on "Mercury Falling" and contributions from guests
>including Talvin Singh, who remixed Madonna last year, and Algerian
>rai singer Cheb Mami.
>
>Insiders say the album marries a predominantly eastern flavour to
>dance beats and hooky pop tunes. "The music's quite intricate but
>there's no posing involved," said one. "It's not world music. It's
>quite modern and diverse, he's definitely broadened his horizons."
>
>Several of the songs took shape while Sting was demoing at the old A&M
>in-house studio in Los Angeles at the start of this year. He plans to
>tour the new album in November."
>
>Cheers
>Wendy & Dave
>
>
>
>Stingchronicity <http://www.stingchronicity.co.uk/>
>
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From: Holly Murdock <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) SOTW: "One World (Not Three)"
Date: 22 Apr 1999 00:31:04 -0600

The Song of the Week is "One World (Not Three)" from GHOST IN THE MACHINE.

"On the album GHOST IN THE MACHINE the track entitled 'One World' was
particularly significant because it marked Sting's first attempt at
looking at the world outside his own emotional experiences. 'The sooner
we think in terms of one world as opposed to the three that we have
artificially created, the better we are going to solve our problems.'"
-Wensley Clarkson, _Sting: The Secret Life of Gordon Sumner_, p. 138.

"One World (not three)"

One world is enough
For all of us
One world is enough
For all of us

It's a subject we rarely mention
But when we do we have this little invention
By pretending they're a different world from me
I shed my responsibility

One world is enough
For all of us
One world is enough
For all of us

The third world breathes our air tomorrow
We live on the time we borrow
In our world there's no time for sorrow
In their world there is no tomorrow

One world is enough
For all of us
One world is enough
For all of us

Lines are drawn upon the world
Before we get our flags unfurled
Whichever one we pick
It's just a self deluding trick

One world is enough
For all of us
One world is enough
For all of us

I don't want to bring a sour note
Remember this before you vote
We can all sink or we all float
'Cos we're all in the same big boat

One world is enough
For all of us
One world is enough
For all of us

One world is enough
For all of us
One world is enough
For all of us

One world is enough
For all of us

It may seem a million miles away
But it gets a little closer everyday
It may seem a million miles away
But it gets a little closer everyday
It may seem a million miles away
But it gets a little closer everyday

One world...
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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (police) Article about "The Lovers"
Date: 22 Apr 1999 08:17:25 -0500


>change! Also, it says that he's into eastern music now, pretty unexpected.

Well, he is into yoga and various things like that... so the eastern music
bit doesn't surprise me at all.  And a lot of it *is* fascinating.  And
some of it is *very* soothing.  Although I'm starting to think that he
means "The Lovers" in an Eastern kind of way.  Very Kama Sutric or Zen or
even in a Japanese or Chinese way.  Perhaps a little of all of it.  He's
worked with South American and Caribbean influences among MANY others, time
to try something new and different, right?
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From: [e-mail] (Martin Nickel)
Subject: (police) Kenny Kirkland Tribute Tickets on sale May 2nd
Date: 22 Apr 1999 16:25:53 +0200

Hi all,

I'm just back from the Rainforest Concert. At Carnegie
Hall I picked up a JVC flyer with some details about
the upcoming Kenny Kirkland Tribute:

KENNY KIRKLAND: A MUSICAL CELEBRATION
Beacon Theatre, $50; $40; $20
Branford Marsalis, Jeff Watts, STING, Harry Cornick Jr. and other

For festival information call 212/501-1390 or write to
JVC Festival New York
P.O. Box 1169
Ansonia Station
New York, NY 10023

The Beacon Theatre is located on
2124 Broadway (between 74th and 75th street)
Phone [phone]
Tickets: At Beacon Box Office
Ticketmaster outlets and phone charge 212/307-7171

!!!!!! Tickets on sale May 2nd !!!!!!!

JVC offers 2-for-1 club shows. That means JVC 2-for-1
offers two tickets for the price of one when a ticket
stub from a JVC Jazz Festival main hall concert is
presented at the door of selected clubs. For example:
If you have a ticket for a main hall concert (i.e.
Carnegie Hall), you and a friend can go to one of the
participating clubs, present the ticket stub at the
door and pay for the cost of only one admittance.
JVC 2-for-1 applies to the 2nd show on weeknights
and the 3rd show on weekends. There are a limited
number of 2-for-1 admissions for each club and only
for the certain dates. Admittance is on a first-come,
first-serve basis and sibject to space available.


Thought that might be interesting for the people who
are planning to go.

Cheers,
Martin

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From: [e-mail] (Martin Nickel)
Subject: (police) JVC Jazz Festival again
Date: 22 Apr 1999 16:29:50 +0200

forgot the URL of their website. here we go ...

http://festivalproductions.net/jvc/ny/events/761768046.shtml

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From: freaks <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) 20% vinyl discount sale
Date: 22 Apr 1999 18:59:41 +0200 (MET DST)


only for a period of 1 week from today, postage is not included.



7" singles 7" singles 7" singles 7" singles 7" singles 7" singles
(this is vinyl)

                         THE POLICE

Cant stand losing you
   /Dead end Job           - Holland AMS 6642 $5.00
Don't stand so close to me
   /Friends                - Holland AMS 9001 $2.00
   /Friends                - Holland AMS 9001 poster sleeve $8.00
   /A Sermon               - USA AM 2301 $9.00
De dododo de dadada
   /Friends                - USA AM 2275 yellow label $5.00
   /A Sermon               - Holland AMS 9110 $4.00
   /A Sermon               - UK AMS 7578 $5.00
Spirits in the material world
   /Flexible strategies    - USA AM 2390 $5.00
   /Low life               - Holland  AMS 9186 $3.00
Wrapped around your finger
   /Tea in the sahara      - USA AM 2614 $6.00
   /Someone to talk to     - Holland AMS 9299 $2.00
   /Someone to talk to     - UK AMP 127 Stewart picture disc $30.00
   /Someone to talk to     - UK AMP 127 Sting picture disc $25.00
   /Someone to talk to     - UK AMP 127 Andy picture disc $30.00

King of pain
   /Someone to talk to     - USA AM 2569 $3.00

POLICE SIX PACK - all first 6 singles on blue vinyl in special plastic
wallet with 6 full colour cards and lyrics. Unique collectors item with
all original picture sleeves. UK AMP001 $45.00

                          STING

Spread a little happiness
   /only you               - Holland AMS 9222 $5.00
If you love somebody
   /Another Day            - Brasil A&M 47090 $8.00
   /Another day            - Germany A&M 3900187 $5.00
                           - Krugazor from Russia, magazine with blue flexi
                             inside $8.00
Fortress around your heart
   /Consider me gone       - Japan AMP 233 $18.00
We'll be together
   /Conversation with a dog- Germany A&M 3902547 with promo inlay $10.00
Fragile
   /Fragil                 - Spain AM 887445 promo $8.00
All this time
   /I miss you kate        - Germany AM 390614-7 $3.00


                        STING WITH OTHERS
Dire Straits
   /Money for nothing      - USA Warner Brothers $3.00
Eric Clapton
   /Its probably me        - Germany $4.00

                        STEWART COPELAND

Too Kool to Kalypso
   /Kinetic Ritual         - UK KMS 7390 green vinyl $7.00

                          ANDY SUMMERS
Love is the strangest way
   /XYZ                    - WEA 2583197 $4.00


12" Singles  12" Singles  12" Singles  12" Singles  12" Singles

                           THE POLICE

Every breath you take     /Every breath you take rare French promo in unique
                           sleeve, try to get thisone !! SDC 11021 $60.00
Wrapped around your..     /Someone to talk to/Message (live)/I
                           burn for you Holland AMS 129701 $9.00
                          /Someone to talk to/message ..live/I burn for you
                           UK amx 127 $7.00
Foreplay #47              /USA promo SP17174 with every little thing she does
                           is magic / September 1981 $6.00
Foreplay #26              /USA promo SP17102 with Message in a bottle and Its
                           allright for you / from 1979 $6.00
Foreplay #45              /USA promo SP17162 with selections from the music
                           soundtrack Urgh a music war $6.00

                           STING

Russians                  /Gabriels Message/burn for you UK AMY 292 $8.00
All this time             /Miss you kate/King of pain (live) UK AMY 713 $8.00
Demolition Man            /The Underground mixes USA with 6 different
                           remixes A&M 314580465 $18.00
When we dance             /plus 3 remixes of If you love somebody, rare
                           French promo in unique "More Vinyl" sleeve $30.00

                          DIRE STRAITS

Money for nothing         /Full length version (8.24) Germany $5.00

                          ANIMAL LOGIC
There is a spy .....      /someone to come home to/night owls UK ALT10 $8.00



LP Album  LP Albums  LP Albums  LP Albums  LP Albums  LP Albums

                          THE POLICE

Brimstone and treacle     / soundtrack Holland AMLH 64915 $5.00
Synchronicity             / first top stripe is blue, first left hand picture
                            is Stewart looking in a mirror, 1LP USA $5.00
Strontium 90 / Regatta    / Rare 2LP USA promo album in unique fold open
Mondatta                    sleeve ARK 618683002114 $35.00
Urgh a music war          / 2lp with live version of Driven to tears , German
                            pressing A&M 8277141 $6.00

                           STING

Dream of the blue turtles / Australia on BLUE vinyl $25.00
Nada como el sol          / Germany 12"A&M 3932951 $5.00
                          / USA A&M SP 3295 12" $5.00
                          / Germany A&M 393295 10" $5.00
Soul Cages/Nothing like   / rare Russian compilation album with unique
the sun                     picture cover, 9 tracks BRS 1990  $20.00
Arcadia                   / So red the rose with Sting on vocals 1LP $5.00
Various Artists           / Breakthrough rare Russian compilation 2LP with
                            Sting/U-2 etc. etc., original one $10.00
                          / Earthrise Sting doing Fragile UK 5154191 $5.00
                          / Conspiracy of Hope Sting doing Strange Fruit
                            Canada 8306171 $5.00
The Bride                 / Original soundtrack German pressing wonderfull
                            cover CST 8007 $12.00
Phil Collins              / No jacket required, with Sting on 2 tracks $4.00


                           STEWART COPELAND

Klark Kent                / Stewart's 10" record amle 68511 $6.00
Talk radio/wall street    / soundtrack score by Stewart Varese Sarabande
                            VS 5215 $8.00
Rumblefish                / filmscore 1lp Holland pressing $8.00
9 1/2 weeks               / by Stewart plus other artists Holland $5.00
Curved Air                / Midnight wire with Stewart on all tracks
                            UK pressing BTM 1005 $5.00


                           ANDY SUMMERS
Mysterious Barricades     / private Music 2039 $8.00
Bewitched                 / album with Robert Fripp German pressing $6.00
I advanced masked         / Germany EG 2311182 with Robert Fripp $6.00
Kevin Coyne               / Matching head and feet, 1LP with Andy on all
                            tracks, UK Virgin V2033 $6.00
David Bedford             / The Odyssey UK V2070 Andy on Circles Island $4.00
John Lord                 / Sarabande German pressing $5.00






Mail me if interested, Erwin


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (police) Hallo
Date: 22 Apr 1999 18:41:56 +0100 (CDT)


Hallo,
Wat zijn jullie een stelletje befhoeren zeg, vuile schaambal.
Kuttekoppen, Kankerleiers, Joden, Hitler Rules.

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From: "Y. de Bruin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) The Lovers
Date: 22 Apr 1999 20:38:56 +-200

Hi all,

Today a friend sent me a picture of the Tarot card called The Lovers.
I realized this might very well be what Sting is thinking about for his =
new album!

As far as I could find out, the card has something to do with Yin and =
Yang,=20
but it is also about having to choose between two different paths and =
for that choice it is best to follow your intuition.
I think it is also referring to the path of spiritual growth.

Anyone on the list who can tell us more about this card?

If this is indeed what the title of the new albus is referring to, I =
think no one has to be afraid that it will be an album with 'just' =
lovesongs. They all sound like quite familiar themes to, don't they?

What do you all think?

Yvonne


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From: "Karel Van Isacker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) ATTENTION FALSE EMAIL USER
Date: 22 Apr 1999 20:22:08 +0200

Hello Folks,

my mail address at freemail.nl has been "hacked" ... a dutch-speaking person
is using it for sex-, anti-Jewish and Neonazi-stuff... under the name
[e-mail] .

THIS IS NOT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't enter anymore as that person changed my e-mail password.

Sorry for this, is it possible for the list-administrator to kick him out??

Regards
Karel
http://listen.to/qualitybootlegs


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From: "Ross Viner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) ATTENTION FALSE EMAIL USER
Date: 22 Apr 1999 12:41:17 -0700

>THIS IS NOT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>I can't enter anymore as that person changed my e-mail password.
>
>Sorry for this, is it possible for the list-administrator to kick him out??


Uhm, this is frightening.  Can we get this investigated somehow by the
proper authorities?


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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) ATTENTION FALSE EMAIL USER
Date: 22 Apr 1999 14:53:00 -0500

>>I can't enter anymore as that person changed my e-mail password.
>>
>>Sorry for this, is it possible for the list-administrator to kick him out??
>
>
>Uhm, this is frightening.  Can we get this investigated somehow by the
>proper authorities?

It's even more disgusting when you know what he's saying.
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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) ATTENTION FALSE EMAIL USER
Date: 22 Apr 1999 15:50:26 -0400

Ross Viner wrote:

> Uhm, this is frightening.  Can we get this investigated somehow by the
> proper authorities?

Although I have no idea, really, I suspect (the real) Karel would have to call
the Police ;-) locally. I've already emailed Pete Ashdown, the Police email list
admin, about Mr. Nazi lover (forwarded the email with full headings).

Regards,
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From: Dave & Wendy <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Public Speaking the Sting way
Date: 22 Apr 1999 20:54:04 +0100

From the Newcastle Journal

Sting's mentor offers a lesson on how to let the words flow:
=20
Mitch Murray's Handbook for the Terrified Speaker (Foulsham, =A38.99)

There's big money in after-dinner speaking but that's no comfort if you find
your legs turning to jelly at the prospect of having to open your mouth in
public. It is something most of us have to do at some time or another,=
 whether
giving a speech at a wedding, proposing a toast or simply making a point at=
 a
meeting. How much easier it is if you know that you won't blush, stammer or
literally be rendered speechless. Mitch Murray can lend a hand. He's=
 something
of a self-help guru who can justifiably claim to have given Sting a leg up=
 to
stardom.

The Tyneside-born singer provides an enthusiastic foreword to Mr Murray's=
 new
book, which follows three volumes of useful one-liners. Sting says he based
his
entire songwriting career on Murray's "first masterpiece", How To Write A=
 Hit
Song, which he read in 1965 at the age of 14. Mitch, you may be aware, was=
 an
ace songwriter in the 1960s and '70s, a hit-maker for Gerry and the=
 Pacemakers
and others. Sting wondered, on being handed the synopsis of this book, if
Mitch
could turn him into an after-dinner speaker. "I know from bitter experience
that singers, like footballers, should never speak," he writes. "The magic=
 and
illusion that music and skill with a football can create is instantly and
cruelly dispelled as soon as one of us opens our mouths."=20

Expressing something of the disillusionment that set in after he started
speaking out against rainforest destruction, Sting says more trees have been
burned in the last 10 years than ever before. "I will still warble on at
length
on the subject when prompted, but no one seems to take a blind bit of=
 notice."

Murray's advice is delivered in avuncular fashion (he even refers to
himself as
Uncle Mitch) which you won't find too irritating if you are best man in a
fortnight's time.  His main argument is that the fear of speaking is, in=
 fact,
a whole bunch of fears. In the book he strives to break them down into
manageable segments but won't eradicate fear totally since some butterflies
are
needed to provide adrenalin for "that extra bit of magic". He concludes,
inevitably, with one-liners from his "very large database". Some are decent
and
some, frankly, should remain mouldering on the floppy disk. But with these
books you take and discard according to whim. There's a lot of advice worth
taking."

Cheers
Dave & Wendy

Stingchronicity <http://www.stingchronicity.co.uk/>

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (police) Hallo
Date: 22 Apr 1999 17:57:11 EDT

Blow me you german piece of shit.....come on over and let me put a bullet in
yer head. love,me

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From: "Josh Corwin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) karel's mixup
Date: 22 Apr 1999 18:32:52 -0400

I think I can speak for just about everyone when I say that we can simply
ignore this whole thing. Anyone who knows Karel even in the slightest (just
by email as I do) could surely tell without even having him explain that the
message did not come from him. Still pathetically sad that some idiot has
nothing better to do than break into people's accounts and send harassing
messages. I could think of doing much better things such as sleeping, or
eating, activities which are apparently above the level of resoning of our
ignorant violator. I think this should be the last email sent to the group
about this entire issue, so that we assure we do not give this putz anymore
dignity or concern than he or she is worth.
-Josh

[e-mail]
http://gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~muppet

"Work like you don't need money, Love like you've never been hurt, And dance
like no one's watching."


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Subject: Re: (police) ATTENTION FALSE EMAIL USER
Date: 22 Apr 1999 20:58:58 EDT

I'm with you guys. This is kinda scary. I hope someone can figure out who is
doing this.

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From: David Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Bye for now
Date: 23 Apr 1999 10:44:15 +0100

Logging off for a couple of weeks while I move to Ireland. If the Police
happen to reform in the next two weeks and do a one-off show in London which
I miss, then can someone please send me a rope so I can hang myself.

E-speak to you all soon.


Cheers

Dave


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From: Ruediger Hoeckel <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) details about Andy's London gigs
Date: 23 Apr 1999 04:17:03 -0700 (PDT)

Hi folks,
after calling the Pizza Express
I can tell you more details about the planned concerts:

Monday - Thursday
one show at 21:00
doors open at 19:45
price: 15 UK-pounds (remember, you have to reserve a table!)

Friday + Saturday
two(!) shows: 19:30 + 22:30
doors open approx. 18:15
price: 20 UK-pounds

I will attend the shows on Thursday + Saturday - see you there!

Rⁿdiger
_________________________________________________________
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From: Mat Planet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) SOTW: One World!!
Date: 23 Apr 1999 09:15:11 -0400

Ou! This is a big one!
VERY cool song. It has always been a BIG favorite!
And, yeah, as a drummer, this one always blew my mind.
At the time Stewart said that this was his best drumming ever on record.

I concur.
He said they all talked it through and then just jumped in the studio
and hit it on the first take, so it had this great energy and
spontinaety.
Fun fun song! Great reggae rhythm.
That and Roxanne are about the only songs I'd rather listen to from the
albums rather than live. Oh, I like the live versions of One World, but
I just love the one from Ghost SO much.

-MatPlanet



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From: Malav Trivedi <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) SOTW: One World
Date: 23 Apr 1999 13:07:52 -0400 (EDT)


I love this song, one of my favorites off of "Ghost..". This really shows
the Police's skills as musicians, because they got this on the first take!
Sting's bass is absolutely amazing and that bass line he put together is
so clever. Stewart's drums are fantastic as usual and I love his bass drum
work, and his neat hi-hat stuff.

I never really liked live versions of this song, because I think the
backup singers on the Synchronicity Tour ruined everything.  The version
Sting did with Ziggy Marley was okay, but nothing beats the original. This
song absolutley rocks!

Take Care, Malav


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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) fairly amusing
Date: 23 Apr 1999 13:40:38 -0400

http://www.theonion.com/onion3515/i_used_to_be_cool.html

--
Aaron Cole
http://www.catalog.com/bartmon/comments/JamesSatoshi.htm
"When he walked into the clubhouse, the lights flickered."
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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) fairly amusing
Date: 23 Apr 1999 13:06:35 -0500

>http://www.theonion.com/onion3515/i_used_to_be_cool.html

OhmiGOD!  That is SOOOOO funny!  Thanks for sharing, Spidey!
_________________
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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) fairly amusing/"german"
Date: 23 Apr 1999 14:13:14 -0400

Kimberly Hansing wrote:

> >http://www.theonion.com/onion3515/i_used_to_be_cool.html
>
> OhmiGOD!  That is SOOOOO funny!  Thanks for sharing, Spidey!

No problem. (I think I might have read this before before off this very
list; I can't remember). Anyway, my posting of this link doesn't imply
that I agree with the intention of the (fake) author. I suppose Puff
Daddy's remixes hadn't surfaced before that was written (or the author,
I'm sure, would have brought that up as well).

Before I forget, someone on this list made some comment about "german
scum". Let's just leave it at "scum", eh (next time)? Nasty people can be
found all over the world, regardless of nationality or culutural
background. Besides, the real Karel is very polite over email.

Regards,
--
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From: "Ross Viner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) fairly amusing
Date: 23 Apr 1999 12:42:54 -0700

Thanks Aaron,
But has Sting's new album tile been changed to "The Tepid Heart"


He writes at one point "I was sitting at one of my pianos, working out some
chords for my forthcoming album The Tepid Heart,"

Ross

-----Original Message-----


>http://www.theonion.com/onion3515/i_used_to_be_cool.html
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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) fairly amusing
Date: 23 Apr 1999 16:39:38 -0400

Ross Viner wrote:

> Thanks Aaron,
> But has Sting's new album tile been changed to "The Tepid Heart"

Just to let everyone know, the author is NOT Sting. The author is someone who
obviously dislikes Sting as a solo artist and prefers The Police. The onion
tends to be a joke site (and so the article is meant to point fun at Sting, in
my opinion).

(I happen to like The Police and Sting as a solo artist--with perhaps the
exception of Mercury Falling and the odd song here and there. However, I
understand and appreciate the author's criticism.)

Regards,
--
Aaron Cole
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From: "Martin Vauchel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) New MP3 files at "the hounds of winter"
Date: 23 Apr 1999 23:00:01 +0200

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Hi everyone,

Two new songs to download at "the hounds of winter" downloads section:
- a live version of "twenty five to midnight", recorded in 1997 in Later =
with Jools
Holland show. VERY VERY GOOD!!!!!
- January Stars

Enjoy!!! And don't forget to complete the form when downloading...

Cheers=20
Martin
_________________________________________________
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Hi everyone,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Two new songs to download at "the hounds of =
winter"=20
downloads section:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>- a live version of "twenty five to =
midnight",=20
recorded in 1997 in Later with Jools</FONT></DIV>
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downloading...</FONT></DIV>
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Subject: (police) Two new MP3 files to download
Date: 23 Apr 1999 23:24:10 +0200

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Hi

Download 2 new songs at the hounds of winter:
Twenty Five to Midnight - Live 97
January Stars

Cheers
Martin
_________________________________________________
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winter:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Twenty Five to Midnight - Live 97</FONT></DIV>
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From: "Giovanni Pollastri" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) lovers - tarot card
Date: 24 Apr 1999 00:18:58 +0200

Hi everybody from Giovanni in Milan, Italy.
The tarot card 'the lovers' has lots of different meanings, like each tarot
card; when you read tarots you have to combine the meaning
of different cards together, so the meaning of each card depends also on
the other cards on the table; it's not very easy to understand, or even
explain, but, as a tarot reader, there is something I feel when I see the
cards on the table, while reading for someone, something unexplicable,
coming from the cards themselves; and also everything depends on which
subject you are 'reading' about.
Of course the lovers has different faces of a sentimental meaning.
In Sting case, I guess the tarot card 'the lovers' could be considered as a
subject for a song, not the subject for the whole album, but who knows...
Maybe one day I'll read tarots to Sting, so I can see if the Police are
coming back together.....
........'one day two guys will come to your door...and you will join again
the perfect triangle'
but in this case I don't think I'll need to read tarots to myself to see
how my finances will fall down!!!
Ciao ciao
        Giovanni

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From: "Yordan Zhechev" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) 25 to Midnight...
Date: 24 Apr 1999 14:08:53 +0200

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I've completely changed my oppinion about the song 25 to Midnight after =
downloading it from "The Hounds of Winter". It's GREAT, GREAT, GREAT! =
This one defenitely becomes one of my favouite songs...(2 hours ago I =
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Yordan

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From: Timo Saajoranta <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) ***THE LEMON TREE*** HOPEFULLY THE FINAL WORD
Date: 24 Apr 1999 14:06:05 +0300

Hello there!

Well, here's my "final word" for this thing. Just listened the "Stings"
version, and in my opinion it is definitely NOT Sting.
It sounds like Sting in the beginning, but the rest of the song doesn't.
And the biggest thing that hits to my ear is the way this singer uses
his/hers vibrato.(I'm also a singer myself) It's very different than
Stings, much "bigger" and vider. Sting has a very "small" vibrato and he
doesn't even use it in most of his (older) songs.
And when I listened the clip few times more, it didn't even sound like
Sting anymore to me...
But it would be nice to hear the whole song, even though I'm pretty
positive that it hasn't anything to do with Sting... :)

Hear you!

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Subject: (police) 25 to Midnight...
Date: 24 Apr 1999 14:08:53 +0200

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I've completely changed my oppinion about the song 25 to Midnight after =
downloading it from "The Hounds of Winter". It's GREAT, GREAT, GREAT! =
This one defenitely becomes one of my favouite songs...(2 hours ago I =
used to skip it while playing the Mercury Falling...)

Yordan

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From: Dave & Wendy <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) More Sting news...
Date: 24 Apr 1999 13:00:40 +0100

From Rolling Stone's site...

Never let war get in the way of a good soccer match. In fact, let it be an
excuse. In order to help raise money for Kosovar refugees, Britain's
high-profile stars are donning their tube socks and lining up on the field. On
May 19, Sting, Noel Gallagher, the Spice Girls, All Saints and Dave Stewart
will
assemble at Tottenham Hotspur's stadium to play an all-star match for Kosovo.
Not only will the luminaries kick about a football, fans will be treated to a
half-time event featuring an acoustic set by Sting, Stewart and his erstwhile
partner in the Eurythmics (and in marriage), Annie Lennox. Promoters hope to
raise at least $1.6 million for the refugees. Speaking of Sting, he just
summoned veteran producer-engineer Hugh Padgham, who's currently working on
the
new 311 record, to do some knob turning on his latest project...

Cheers
Wendy & Dave

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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) lovers - tarot card
Date: 24 Apr 1999 07:18:22

Hmmm... I study tarot a bit too.  I think I can explain a little here about
the tarot, too.  A tarot deck has 78 cards in it.  22 are called "Major
Arcana" and are individuals (such as the Fool the Magician) or embodiments
(such as the Sun or the Moon).  The Lovers is one of these.  Then there are
56 "Minor" arcana which are organized like a regular deck of cards into
four suits.  They contain the numbers, one through ten, and four face cards
(King, Queen, Knight and Page).

Different tarot readers use the cards in many different ways, but the idea
is that the person who is having the reading done is in control of the
cards.  That person is supposed to think of his or her question while
shuffling the deck and then the reader lays the cards down in a pattern and
reads them.  It is usually considered significant even when a card is
right-side-up or upside-down to the readee.  Anyway, the cards are like
aspects of the question, so they change in relation to the person asking
the question and the nature of the question itself.  Hence multiple meanings.

Although different tarot decks have different pictures on the cards, there
are some elements that are constant.  The card "The Lovers" usually depicts
a naked man and a naked woman overlooked by an angel who is usually
blindfolded or has his eyes closed.  Behind the angel is a sun.  There will
be trees, and often the various parts of the picture are intended to make
the couple appear to be Adam and Eve.  The RIder Tarot deck, for example (a
popular set) has a tree of fruit with a serpent wound around it.

Again, though no description of a single card can be absolute, the ideals
of the card "The Lovers" is love, attraction, beauty. When the card is
reversed (upside down) it is more like unrequited love:  failure, foolishness.

Hope this helps everyone see how nebulous this is... and kudos to Giovanni
for his excellent description of just how nebulous the cards can be!


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From: "Karel Van Isacker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Dune VQF + new recordings
Date: 24 Apr 1999 15:23:01 +0200

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after some absence, a new VQF is available.  This time no song, but a =
short phrase from Sting in Dune ..... only 3 seconds, but really live! =
;-)  I haven't had the time to make a bigger file, but nevertheless, a =
nice tiny item.

The phrase can be downloaded at my site =
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For download go to the link "VQF" which will bring you to a page where =
you can download the file (only 13kb) (+ the required software to play =
it -also on Winamp players-).

If you have any requests, feel free to send them to me!

Some Sting and The Police boots were added too, so check it out!

Cheers and enjoy it!
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (police) 25 to mid
Date: 24 Apr 1999 12:30:02 EDT

well since its not on merc falling...yes u probably did skip it a lot

the non-live version is actually much better....it has the energy and pace
that the song deserves.

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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) 25 to mid
Date: 24 Apr 1999 12:34:23 -0400

[e-mail] wrote:

> well since its not on merc falling...yes u probably did skip it a lot

Actually, the (studio version) song appears on all non-North American releases
of Mercury Falling.

Regards,
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From: Gerard Marks <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) More Sting news.../Production
Date: 24 Apr 1999 11:20:20 -0700 (PDT)

Well folks, I was excited that Sting alone was producing the album but
here comes in Hugh Padgham to eliminate all the rough edges on the
album.  I hope he and Sting don't repeat their MF style and over
produce the album by washing away the life and energy in the songs.

To me the best production on a Sting song was Fragile on NLTS which was
produced by Neil Dorfsman and Sting. Best production by Hugh was
definitely TST.

BTW, what exactly is production?  The reason I like the way Fragile is
put together is really the mix in the song but isn't the mix the job of
the sound engineer?  My feeling of production is the overall feel or
mix of the instruments/vocals in a song but then again, I thought this
was the job of the engineer or maybe the producer is the engineer's
boss?  I dunno.

Who knows, maybe the blame lies solely on Sting for creating the washed
down sound on some of the albums.  This is why as someone else posted,
I mainly listen to the live stuff as soon as one becomes available, the
album begins to collect cobwebs.  Obviously there are also improved
arrangements in the live versions.

Gerard

--- Dave & Wendy <[e-mail]> wrote:
> From Rolling Stone's site...
> Speaking of Sting, he just
> summoned veteran producer-engineer Hugh Padgham,
> who's currently working on
> the
> new 311 record, to do some knob turning on his
> latest project...
>
> Cheers
> Wendy & Dave
>
> Stingchronicity <http://www.stingchronicity.co.uk/>
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From: "Quinn Tisdell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:06:08 PDT
Date: 24 Apr 1999 13:06:41 -0600

 Greetings,
       Does anyone know where Sting got into yoga and the like? If I
remember correctly, he was in India for one of those benefits to save
the rainforests.  One line I found amusing while reading on the
Stingchronicity web site about Sting's time in India was Sting's
reply to a reporter's question about a kind of clothing they wear
over there, a sheet-like thing that one wraps around oneself. The
reporter asked Sting how he could answer the call of nature while
wearing such a garmet. Sting replied something like "Which call of
nature? As for the first one, I simply pull it aside and go. As for
the other...well, I don't really know. I haven't tried it with my
wife while wearing this thing yet."
                                                  "Big Mac"Quinn

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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Driven to Tears (Pearl Jam)
Date: 25 Apr 1999 11:25:52 -0400

Hi,

If anyone knows on what official release or boot of Pearl Jam's this
cover appears on, could they please let me know. I used to have the
information, but lost it; and I've got too many things to do, to be
searching all over the internet for the answer.

Thanks in advance,
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From: Wino Emmanuel <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) MP3z !!!!
Date: 25 Apr 1999 17:39:14 +0200

Hi !

Does anybody know where i can find Police bootlegs in mp3 ?
Thanx in advance.

Manu

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From: freaks <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) cd's 4 sale
Date: 26 Apr 1999 15:21:19 +0200 (MET DST)

These are the latest items. prices are without
postage costs, mail me if interested.


-the soul cages mega rare Canadian interview promo with unique sleeve $50.00
-the soul cages rare US promo in unique linnen cloth sleeve, great to frame
 this piece and hang it at home $50.00
-japan 3inch(all this time+miss you kate)$20.00
-japan 3inch(demolition man+love is stronger than justice)$20.00
-acoustic live  in newcastl(5tracks live from newcastle) uk only cd. $30.00
 this is the cd only no box or book
-ten summoners tales-interview disc(u.s promo only cd)$25.00
-ten summoners tales-(japan full cd lp w/5 live cd included in box) $30.00
-nuggets from fields of gold-(u.s promo only cd sampler from greatest
hits)$25.00
-police-message in a box (us promo only sampler cd)$20.00
-police-dont stand so close....86.(u.s promo only cd single)$20.00
-police-live (us promo only sampler cd)$20.00
-why should i cry for you?-(us promo only 3 mixes cd)$25.00
-why should i cry for you?-(1track us promo)$15.00
-all this time-(us promo only 2mixes)$10.00
-mad about you+2(uk limited edition numbered cd in tri-fold sleeve)$15.00
-mad about you-(us promo only 2mixes)$15.00
-demolition man-(phive phat mixes us promo only pic.disc.cd single)$20.00
-demolition man-(spain only 1 track promo)$15.00


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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Joe Theissman
Date: 26 Apr 1999 09:38:01 -0500

Hi all,

A little off-topic, sorry, but I've lost the email of the girl who wanted
the Joe Theissman name-pronunciation story... if you were expecting to
receive this story from me and have not, please mail me privately... thanks
again...


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From: Fred Berthelot <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) final recording touches
Date: 26 Apr 1999 14:28:56 -0400

Here's a piece of inside info on Sting's new album: He is going to Paris to
finish recording, or to mix the album, I'm not sure. Wasn't The soul Cages
mixed in France? Le Studio Guillaume Tell I believe? I think this sounds
promising. Plus the fact that he recorded out of the comfort of Lake House
(although I'm sure his place in Tuscany must be pretty nice) and
collaborated with an Algerian singer. Change is good. Someone posted an
article that said that he used the same musicians as Mercury Falling. But
that can't be true. The keyboard player would have to be different and
didn't the drummer from NLTS record with him this time (his name completely
escapes me right now.) Anyway, this change of pace is good (although I'm
disappointed to hear that Hugh P is going from 311 to Sting.

I'm definitely going to the Kenny Kirkland tribute. Is anyone else going and
does anyone know what the best way is to get tickets. Should I show up at
the box office or call?

Fred.

P.S. I went to my friend's wedding over the weekend, and their first dance
was Fields of Gold. It was a beautiful moment. It was also my sister's first
wedding dance. One day I hope to play it at my wedding, whenever that may
be. That song will always symbolize marriage to me from now on...

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From: The Invisible Warrior <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) how the voting is going!!
Date: 26 Apr 1999 22:14:45 +0200


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Hi there,

A little update about how the voting is going...

Do you prefer The Lovers as a title for Sting's upcoming album?
58  votes since March 12th 1999

48 % says YES
52 % says NO

Really close here, but I also need to see that afterwards I think it is
a dumb question!
Most of the people who donot vote don't care at all!!!!!
I should have created another option after all!

The best album now...

57 votes since March 12, 1999

22 votes............. The Dream Of The Blue Turtles
21 votes............. The Soul Cages
6  votes...............Ten Summoner's Tales
4  votes.............. Nothing Like The Sun
3  votes.............. Mercury Falling
1  vote................ Accoustic Live In Newcastle
-  votes............... Bring On The Night
-  votes............... Nada Como El Sol

And now it's all up to you...

Visit  http://www.thelakehouse.com/vote.html

Greetings,

Sjoerd

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Hi there,
<p>A little update about how the voting is going...
<p>Do you prefer The Lovers as a title for Sting's upcoming album?
<br><u>58  votes since March 12th 1999</u>
<p><i>48</i> % says YES
<br><i>52</i> % says NO
<p>Really close here, but I also need to see that afterwards I think it
is a dumb question!
<br>Most of the people who donot vote don't care at all!!!!!
<br>I should have created another option after all!
<p>The best album now...
<p><u>57 votes since March 12, 1999</u>
<p>22 votes............. The Dream Of The Blue Turtles
<br>21 votes............. The Soul Cages
<br>6  votes...............Ten Summoner's Tales
<br>4  votes.............. Nothing Like The Sun
<br>3  votes.............. Mercury Falling
<br>1  vote................ Accoustic Live In Newcastle
<br>-  votes............... Bring On The Night
<br>-  votes............... Nada Como El Sol
<p>And now it's all up to you...
<p>Visit  <a href="http://www.thelakehouse.com">http://www.thelakehouse.com/vote.html</a>
<p>Greetings,
<p>Sjoerd
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From: "Giovanni Pollastri" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) andy summers italian tour
Date: 26 Apr 1999 22:45:36 +0200

Hi everybody from Giovanni!
We're getting crazy around here!!!!!!!
Andy tour seems something like an impossible thing; I mean it is confirmed
but news changes every minute and that's because of the very bad
organisation of the italian promoter; Andy don't deserve this kind of
treatment, but, really, it's a complete mess!!!
Me and a couple of friends are trying to make it possible (Andy knows
that), but, believe me you should live the situation to understand the
chaos around it; just consider that the concert should be on 7th May, and
nobody knows it, as there are no posters around or any kind of promotion
(apart our only and one activity promoting as fans).
Just needed someone to talk to!!!
Ciao ciao
        Giovanni

PS.: Full report will follow next week!

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From: Brian P Kurtz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) andy summers italian tour
Date: 26 Apr 1999 16:13:31 -0500 (CDT)

> Just needed someone to talk to!!!
> Ciao ciao

Hee hee... ^_^ That's funny... I like the Andy Summers pun.

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From: mlane <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) hey,I'm back
Date: 26 Apr 1999 17:14:10 -0500

Hey,there! I had a good time in Cincinnati.It was especially neat for me
because at almost every place I went,there was something that had to do with
Sting or the Police.When I went to the Reds game on Saturday,they played
"Spirits In The Material World" and a few other songs over the loudspeaker
before the game.I thought that was cool.And when I went to a mall,they were
playing "When We Dance" on the radio.I finally got Nada Como El Sol and
Fortress.Well,I thought I'd just share this with you all.See ya!

                                                       ~Mollie~
                                                       ~Syn^Chronicity_II~
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~It may seem a million miles away
but it gets a little closer everyday~


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From: "Beth Meetsma" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Kenny Kirland Tribute
Date: 26 Apr 1999 21:54:15 -0400

Hi everyone --

An article on Kenny Kirkland with links to the JVC Festival tribute
concert on June 25 can be found at:

http://articles.citysearch.com/New_York/music/rjp/990419/

Cheers,
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From: Dave & Wendy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) how the voting is going!!
Date: 26 Apr 1999 22:53:53 +0100

<html>
At 22:14 26/04/99 +0200, Sjoerd wrote: <br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite cite>The best album now... <br>
<u>57 votes since March 12, 1999</u> <br>
22 votes............. The Dream Of The Blue Turtles </blockquote><br>
We've just added a less than ecstatic review from The Boston Globe of
this album to our site today for anyone interested.<br>
<br>
Also, here in the UK, Annie Nightingale's autobiography has just been
published and includes a chapter on her adventures on the Police world
tour in 1980 when she was away filming the BBC documentary "Police
In The East".<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
Wendy & Dave<br>
<br>
<br>
<BR>
Stingchronicity
<<a href="http://www.stingchronicity.co.uk/" EUDORA=AUTOURL>http://www.stingchronicity.co.uk/</a>>
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From: "M. van Santen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) andy summers italian tour
Date: 27 Apr 1999 08:17:48 +0200

Hi Giovanni

what you write sounds familiar to me

Last time Andy Played a small venue in Amsterdam:
No posters; and hardly any publicity
Only some dozens of 'listies' even some from Germany;

Andy played for an almost empty hall.

But anyhow, have a good time'

magda

Giovanni Pollastri wrote:
> chaos around it; just consider that the concert should be on 7th May, and
> nobody knows it, as there are no posters around or any kind of promotion
> (apart our only and one activity promoting as fans).


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From: "W. Burkhart" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) For Sale: Sting Bootleg 'The Seas Of Silence'
Date: 27 Apr 1999 12:12:20 +0200

Hi all,

I have for sale one copy of the 2-CD-set by Sting called 'The Seas Of
Silence' (Kiss The Stone KTS 046/047).
It includes the complete concert in London from November 30, 1991.
The source is a Radio 1 broadcast and the sound is excellent stereo.

The track list goes:

Disc #1

All This Time
Jeremiah Blues (Part One)
Mad About You
Driven To Tears
Ain't No Sunshine (B. Withers)
Why Should I Cry For You?
Be Still My Beating Heart
Roxanne
Bring On The Night
When The World Is Running Down...

Disc #2

Fortress Around Your Heart
The Wild, Wild Sea
The Soul Cages
Purple Haze (Jimi Hendrix)
If You Love Somebody Set Them Free
Walking On The Moon
Every Breath You Take
Message In A Bottle
Fragile (dedicated to Freddie Mercury)

For a cover scan you can take a look at the Stingchronicity site:
http://www.stingchronicity.co.uk/images/seasofsi.jpg

I ask $45 for the 2-CD-set + postage.

Please mail me privately.

Thanks,

   Werner

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Subject: Re: (police) andy summers italian tour
Date: 27 Apr 1999 08:25:34 EDT

All the trouble and expense of travelling,scheduling,and arrangements and no
posters or promotion.That sucks!
Thank you for getting the word out.To still come out and play in spite of
others dropping the ball must be pure dedication and frustration.You deserve
a great show,maybe a party afterwards.
Andrea

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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) For Sale: Sting Bootleg 'The Seas Of Silence'
Date: 27 Apr 1999 08:42:10 -0400

"W. Burkhart" wrote:

> I ask $45 for the 2-CD-set + postage.

This is truly pathetic. While I hate professional bootleggers, even KTS
(www.kissthestone.com), itself, is selling this set for $34 +$4.50 for
shipping.
--
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From: "winca" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fw: (police) For Sale: Sting Bootleg 'The Seas Of Silence'
Date: 27 Apr 1999 14:45:47 +0200

Time is bad - children need to eat
winca

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>"W. Burkhart" wrote:
>
>> I ask $45 for the 2-CD-set + postage.
>
>This is truly pathetic. While I hate professional bootleggers, even KTS
>(www.kissthestone.com), itself, is selling this set for $34 +$4.50 for
>shipping.
>--
>Aaron Cole
>http://www.catalog.com/bartmon/comments/JamesSatoshi.htm
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> - former Yankees clubhouse man Pete Sheehy on Joe DiMaggio
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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: (off-topic) Re: Fw: (police) For Sale: Sting Bootleg 'The Seas Of
Date: 27 Apr 1999 09:08:07 -0400

winca wrote:

> Time is bad - children need to eat

Oh . . .

I'm very sorry to hear that. I hope things get better,

My apologies,
--
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From: "winca" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fw: (off-topic) Re: Fw: (police) For Sale: Sting Bootleg 'The Seas Of Silence'
Date: 27 Apr 1999 15:12:17 +0200

Aaron wrote:



>Oh . . .
>
>I'm very sorry to hear that. I hope things get better,
>
>My apologies,
>--
>Aaron Cole


you're right - things get better ............after several "good" trades
!!??

winca



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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) andy summers italian tour
Date: 27 Apr 1999 08:33:53 -0500

>Last time Andy Played a small venue in Amsterdam:
>No posters; and hardly any publicity
>Only some dozens of 'listies' even some from Germany;
>
>Andy played for an almost empty hall.
Same thing happened here in Nashville in 1991... you know, I think he likes
that.
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From: Dave & Wendy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Kenny Kirland Tribute
Date: 27 Apr 1999 16:16:05 +0100

At 21:54 26/04/99 -0400, Beth wrote:

>An article on Kenny Kirkland with links to the JVC Festival tribute
>concert on June 25 can be found at:
<http://articles.citysearch.com/New_York/music/rjp/990419>http://articles.c
itysearch.com/New_York/music/rjp/990419/

Thanks Beth. It was interesting to go to the site, and see the first thing
that
appears is our photograph of Kenny from the Royal Albert Hall! We were
surprised to say the least... shame about no credit ;-) Ain't the web a
wonderful thing!

Cheers
Dave & Wendy
Stingchronicity <http://www.stingchronicity.co.uk/>

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From: "M. van Santen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) NET Aid -October 9.
Date: 27 Apr 1999 19:01:08 +0200

Hi All

Just read this on BBC text :

"Stars line up for world's biggest gig

Some of the world's biggest music stars are to team up for a massive,
global three-venue, Live Aid-style concert - expected to be the biggest
yet.
Among those approached to perform at "Net Aid" -taking place in London,
New York and Geneva- are Celine Dion, Sting and Lauren Hill.

The Event will take place on October 9 and take cash pledges on the
Internet.
The concert is part of the UN's drive to eradicate world poverty by
2006. "

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From: Dave & Wendy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) NET Aid -October 9.
Date: 27 Apr 1999 19:06:34 +0100

At 19:01 27/04/99 +0200, Magda wrote:

>Just read this on BBC text :
>"Stars line up for world's biggest gig...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/newsid_329000/329806.stm

It's also on the Beeb's excellent web-site. There could be a problem though
- isn't Wembley Stadium being pulled down and rebuilt after the FA Cup
Final at the end of the month? Nice pic of Sting though...

Cheers
Dave & Wendy
Stingchronicity <http://www.stingchronicity.co.uk/>

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From: "Stefano Cavoretto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) OFF TOPIC! TV system in Russia
Date: 27 Apr 1999 21:06:16 +0200

Sorry to use the list for this, folks, but I have a question for anyone from
Russia: what's the TV system over there, PAL, NTSC or what? We're giving
hospitality to a kid from Bielorussia (the area where the Tchernobyl
accident occoured years ago), and he wants to bring some VHS back home when
he leaves, but I'd like to know if he'll be able to actually watch it, and
save him a disappontment.
Thanx a lot 4 your patience!

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From: "Karel Van Isacker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) andy summers italian tour
Date: 27 Apr 1999 19:21:59 +0200

>All the trouble and expense of travelling,scheduling,and arrangements and
no
>posters or promotion.That sucks!
>Thank you for getting the word out.To still come out and play in spite of
>others dropping the ball must be pure dedication and frustration.You
deserve
>a great show,maybe a party afterwards.
>Andrea
Well, it does seem that Andy indeed likes those small gigs ... unfortunately
I was never able to attend one ... any idea when he will play a gig in
Belgium?????????

Cheers,
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From: Javier Olaizola <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) OFF TOPIC! TV system in Russia
Date: 27 Apr 1999 17:36:13 -0300

Stefano Cavoretto wrote:

> Sorry to use the list for this, folks, but I have a question for anyone from
> Russia: what's the TV system over there, PAL, NTSC or what? We're giving
> hospitality to a kid from Bielorussia (the area where the Tchernobyl
> accident occoured years ago), and he wants to bring some VHS back home when
> he leaves, but I'd like to know if he'll be able to actually watch it, and
> save him a disappontment.
> Thanx a lot 4 your patience!
>
> Stefano

They use SECAM.
VHS tapes recorded in Russia will play in black and white on yout
standard italian vcr.


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From: Holly Murdock <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) SOTW: "Jeremiah Blues (Part 1)"
Date: 28 Apr 1999 00:41:16 -0600

The Song of the Week is "Jeremiah Blues (Part 1)" from THE SOUL CAGES.

"_The Soul Cages_ is rife with biblical and specifically Catholic =
imagery, from "The Jeremiah Blues (Part 1 )," with its =
tongue-in-cheek nod to the Old Testament prophet of doom and its =
allusions to crucifixion...

"I was brought up in a very strong Catholic community," Sting says. =
"My parents were Catholic, and in the Fifties and Sixties, =
Catholicism was very strong. You know, they say, 'Once a Catholic, =
always a Catholic.' In a way I'm grateful for that background. =
There's a very rich imagery in Catholicism: blood, guilt, death, all =
that stuff." He laughs. "I'm not sure it goes far enough to explain =
our situation. At my age, I feel some of it is inadequate to explain =
a lot of things. So the album, although it has this religious =
element, is about a deeper religion."
-Anthony DeCurtis, Rolling Stone, Feb. 1991

       "Jeremiah Blues (Part 1)"

       It was midnight, midnight at noon
       Everyone talked in rhyme
       Everyone saw the big clock tick-in',
       Nobody knew, nobody knew the time
       Elegant d=E9butantes smiled
       Everyone fought for dimes
       Newspapers screamed for blood
       It was the best of times

       Every place around the world, it seemed the same
       Can't hear the rhythm for the drums
       Everybody wants to look the other way
       When something wicked this way comes

       Sometimes they tie a thief to the tree
       Sometimes I stare, sometimes it's me

       Everyone told the truth
       All that we heard were lies
       A Pope claimed that he'd been wrong in the past
       This was a big surprise
       Nobody knew the time
       Everyone fell in love
       A Cardinal's wife was jailed
       The government saved a dying planet
       When popular icons failed

       Every place around the world it seemed the same
       Can't hear the rhythm for the drums
       Everybody wants to look the other way
       When something wicked this way comes

       Sometimes they tie a thief to the tree
       Sometimes I stare, sometimes it's me
       Sometimes I stare, sometimes it's me

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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: "Jeremiah Blues (Part 1)"
Date: 28 Apr 1999 08:20:07 -0500

There certainly is some interesting biblical symbolism here.  I was raised
in the American South, another place where religion is a key part of the
lifestyle, albeit a Fundamentalist Protestant religion.  To this day, I
feel guilty when I don't go to Church on Sunday.  So I can relate to how
Sting feels this pull throughout his life in spite of the fact that, with a
divorce under his belt, he's probably not Catholic any more.

>       It was midnight, midnight at noon
This seems to refer to the day on which Christ was crucified and the sky
went black in the middle of the day.  Atheistic scholars say that there was
a solar eclipse on that day.

>       Nobody knew, nobody knew the time
>       Elegant d=E9butantes smiled
>       Everyone fought for dimes
>       Newspapers screamed for blood
>       It was the best of times
Very indicative of the times then, too, as much as any other.  "nobody knew
the time" could easily mean that no one realized that the Old Testament
prophecies were happening.  Very few did, after all.

>       Sometimes they tie a thief to the tree
Crucifixion, of course, was not always done with nails.  They'd usually tie
you up there and leave you several days to suffocate very, very slowly.  If
you don't know how this happens, get two friends, one on either side of
you, to each stnad on one foot and hold your arms to the sides and slightly
above your head in the style of crucifixion.  Then hang.  See how hard it
is to breathe?  Then, if you were taking too long to die, they would break
your legs so you couldn't push up on them to breathe anymore without
excruciating pain.  Eventually, in the event of a holiday coming up, they'd
stab you.  Traditional Christian pictures of Calvary/Golgotha show only
three crosses, but it is likely that there were rows and rows of them, as
in The Life of Brian.  It happened that there were thieves on either side
of Christ that day.  So again, very allusive of the day of Crucifixion.

_________________
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From: "Julie Poliquin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) SOTW: "Jeremiah Blues (Part 1)"
Date: 28 Apr 1999 20:02:57 -0400

This song has always been a favorite of mine. Is it because I'm catholic and
very critical of my religion? I don't know.... It's a clever song.

I particularly like this passage:
       "The government saved a dying planet
       When popular icons failed."

Does this mean that Sting feels his efforts to save the rainforest were a
failure so far and that he's placing his hope in governments. I doubt it ...
but that part always makes me smile.

I kinda like this popular icon of ours!

Salut!

Jules


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Subject: Re: (police) SOTW:
Date: 28 Apr 1999 21:36:44 PST


>"_The Soul Cages_ is rife with biblical and specifically Catholic =
>imagery, from "The Jeremiah Blues (Part 1 )," with its =
>tongue-in-cheek nod to the Old Testament prophet of doom and its =
>allusions to crucifixion...


That's funny...I always thought it was about the French Revolution...perhaps too swayed by the Dickens reference. But I guess in a way it is a universal song about EVERY era. Also, about the (Part 1) thing...was there/is there a (part 2)?

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From: Teri Kronberg <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Edge Of Seventeen/BOTN
Date: 29 Apr 1999 01:20:16 EDT

-- "Ken" [e-mail] writes:
>Not sure if this has been brought up, but has anyone noticed the
>similarities between the original version of "Bring on the Night" and
>"Edge of Seventeen" by Stevie Nicks?  The sound is waaaaaaaay to
>similar to be a coincidence:  same guitar riff, same riding of the
hi-hat,
>the bass drum on the upbeat, the cymbal crashes on the upbeat, even
>the same chord progression in the guitar line.  It's not as
"atmospheric",
>or desolate-sounding as the Police track, but it's very, very similar
>musically and arrangement-wise.

I know this was mentioned a while ago, but I only just listened to both
songs together.  Hmmm, I only noticed the similiarity in the very
beginning of BOTN.  When the tone of the music changes (when the
lyrics begin), the link is lost for me.

Perhaps, it's those few flat-sounding notes from Sting which throw off
the similarity for me? ;)

"Good-byyyyyyeee!"

Teri

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (police) Hate to . . .
Date: 29 Apr 1999 12:57:11 +0200


---------------------- Forwarded by Gergely A Nagy/BUD/Pharms/SB_PLC on
04/29/99 01:00 PM ---------------------------


cc:    (bcc: Gergely A Nagy/BUD/Pharms/SB_PLC)


disappoint you, but I just discovered something very disturbing this
morning.  A good friend of mine in NYC told me that Gordon Matthew
Sumner is nothing short of a crude womanizer whenever he is in New
York.  Every time he is there, the man hosts nothing short of three-four
prostitutes in his hotel room.  And to think I once revered him . . .



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Subject: Re: (police) Hate to . . .
Date: 29 Apr 1999 08:25:53 -0500

>Subject:  Hate to . . .
>
>
>disappoint you, but I just discovered something very disturbing this
>morning.  A good friend of mine in NYC told me that Gordon Matthew
>Sumner is nothing short of a crude womanizer whenever he is in New
>York.  Every time he is there, the man hosts nothing short of three-four
>prostitutes in his hotel room.  And to think I once revered him . . .

Unless someone knows this for a fact (i.e., is one of the prostitutes, or a
hotel employee who has delivered room service, etc.) then to me, it's
hearsay and subject to suspicion.  And even if the person from whom this
came *were* one of the above-mentioned persons, I would still view their
stories with suspicion just because they aren't people I personally know
and trust.

Just my opinion...

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From: Betheny Gamache <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Hate to . . .
Date: 29 Apr 1999 09:21:03 -0400 (EDT)

I love these posts that always refer to 'friends' and never give any
names.  I know for a fact that Sting isn't a saint, but this sounds a
little over the top even for him.  I know for a fact that the guy is
paranoid about catching AIDS or something.  I don't see him hiring a four
or five prostistutes and running that kind of risk.  However, even if he
does, (and I'm neither defending or condoning this kind of behavior) I
admire the man for his music not his morals.  He's in my prayers and I
hope that one day God will really mean something to him.

This will be my final post for a while as I'm going to be heading to
Kansas for the summer.  I'll be back again in the fall.  Many thanks for
all you guys for keeping me up to date, esspecially to Dave and Wendy.
Karal, I hope you get the guy who tried to do a smear job on your good
name.  Anyway, I must get going.  See you in the fall.

Sincerely,

Betheny

On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 [e-mail] wrote:

>
> ---------------------- Forwarded by Gergely A Nagy/BUD/Pharms/SB_PLC on
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> Subject:  Hate to . . .
>
>
> disappoint you, but I just discovered something very disturbing this
> morning.  A good friend of mine in NYC told me that Gordon Matthew
> Sumner is nothing short of a crude womanizer whenever he is in New
> York.  Every time he is there, the man hosts nothing short of three-four
> prostitutes in his hotel room.  And to think I once revered him . . .
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From: "Gray, James" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Question
Date: 29 Apr 1999 08:32:00 -0500

I received the following trivia question in a Spinner.com newsletter.
Of course the
answer is Sting, but what does the rest of it refer to?  Kwisatz
Haderach?
Harkonnen?  They gave a link to the answer, but it did not mention
anything about
these things.

Question 3: He was born Gordon Sumner, made a bee-line to musical
success,
then shockingly tried to kill the Kwisatz Haderach in a failed attempt
to control
the spice melange. Who is this one-time Harkonnen?

Answer: <http://www.launch.com/gateway/dj/fs_start.asp?artistid=589>

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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_Temmeyer?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Re: Hate to...
Date: 29 Apr 1999 15:39:26 +0200

>Subject:  Hate to . . .
>
>
>disappoint you, but I just discovered something very disturbing this
>morning.  A good friend of mine in NYC told me that Gordon Matthew
>Sumner is nothing short of a crude womanizer whenever he is in New
>York.  Every time he is there, the man hosts nothing short of three-four
>prostitutes in his hotel room.  And to think I once revered him . . .

>Unless someone knows this for a fact (i.e., is one of the prostitutes, or a
>hotel employee who has delivered room service, etc.) then to me, it's
>hearsay and subject to suspicion.  And even if the person from whom this
>came *were* one of the above-mentioned persons, I would still view their
>stories with suspicion just because they aren't people I personally know
>and trust.
>Just my opinion...

I think you're right Kim.

By the way, Sting is the owner of an apartment in NYC, where he used to stay
while he's in the city.
So: No hotel, no hotel employee and  - that's what I think - no story...

Joerg




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From: "Julie Poliquin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Hate to . . .
Date: 29 Apr 1999 09:23:19 -0400

And so what if it was true?

So what if Sting did get "professionnal services"? I think trudie would care
but as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't take away any of the pleasure I get
from his music.

It's not as if he was corrupting teenage girls or chasing kids in a park!

It does make me think about my life though.
Maybe I should change carrer and move to NY. ;-)

Salut!

Jules

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Date : jeudi, avril 29, 1999 09:28
Objet : Re: (police) Hate to . . .


>>Subject:  Hate to . . .
>>
>>
>>disappoint you, but I just discovered something very disturbing this
>>morning.  A good friend of mine in NYC told me that Gordon Matthew
>>Sumner is nothing short of a crude womanizer whenever he is in New
>>York.  Every time he is there, the man hosts nothing short of three-four
>>prostitutes in his hotel room.  And to think I once revered him . . .
>
>Unless someone knows this for a fact (i.e., is one of the prostitutes, or a
>hotel employee who has delivered room service, etc.) then to me, it's
>hearsay and subject to suspicion.  And even if the person from whom this
>came *were* one of the above-mentioned persons, I would still view their
>stories with suspicion just because they aren't people I personally know
>and trust.
>
>Just my opinion...
>
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From: "Cornwell, Nina" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (police) Question
Date: 29 Apr 1999 09:47:54 -0400

To further clarify, these are all references to the movie "Dune"

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    Gray, James [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    Thursday, April 29, 1999 9:32 AM
> To:    'Sting / Police Send Here'
> Subject:    (police) Question
>
> I received the following trivia question in a Spinner.com newsletter.
> Of course the
> answer is Sting, but what does the rest of it refer to?  Kwisatz
> Haderach?
> Harkonnen?  They gave a link to the answer, but it did not mention
> anything about
> these things.
>
> Question 3: He was born Gordon Sumner, made a bee-line to musical
> success,
> then shockingly tried to kill the Kwisatz Haderach in a failed attempt
> to control
> the spice melange. Who is this one-time Harkonnen?
>
> Answer: <http://www.launch.com/gateway/dj/fs_start.asp?artistid=589>
>
> James
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (police) Question
Date: 29 Apr 1999 15:44:46 +0200


It's about the "Dune" Sci-Fi saga. Sting played a character in the
"Dune" David Lynch movie based on the novels of Frank Herbert.
He was playing the nephew of the Harkonen Baron who tried to kill
the hero of the saga, "the Kwisatz Haderach" as far as I can
remember. The spice melange gave the eternal life... OK, I read
that when I was 15 (but you can read it at any age !),
there is perhaps 2000 pages in the books and my english is too
poor to put them in a mail (-: !

But unfortunately, the movie isn't good.

Vince





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I received the following trivia question in a Spinner.com newsletter.
Of course the
answer is Sting, but what does the rest of it refer to?  Kwisatz
Haderach?
Harkonnen?  They gave a link to the answer, but it did not mention
anything about
these things.

Question 3: He was born Gordon Sumner, made a bee-line to musical
success,
then shockingly tried to kill the Kwisatz Haderach in a failed attempt
to control
the spice melange. Who is this one-time Harkonnen?

Answer: <http://www.launch.com/gateway/dj/fs_start.asp?artistid=589>

James


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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Re: Hate to...
Date: 29 Apr 1999 08:57:53 -0500

>I think you're right Kim.
>
>By the way, Sting is the owner of an apartment in NYC, where he used to stay
>while he's in the city.
>So: No hotel, no hotel employee and  - that's what I think - no story...

I agree.  In my experience, whenever someone says "I hate to
disappoint/bother/shock/etc. you,"  they don't really.  They're usually
saying it *specifically* to disappoint/bother/shock/etc. you.  To me,
whether it's true or not, the only ones it affects are Trudie, Sting, and
possibly their children.  It's no one else's business and as such is
malicious in nature and shameful to have spoken aloud.

A further opinion...
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From: Kimberly Hansing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Question
Date: 29 Apr 1999 09:02:06 -0500

>It's about the "Dune" Sci-Fi saga. Sting played a character in the
>"Dune" David Lynch movie based on the novels of Frank Herbert.
>
>But unfortunately, the movie isn't good.

Speak for yourself.  The whole movie was worth it just to see Sting
strutting around in space bikinis.  *grin*
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From: Fred Berthelot <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (police) Hate to . . .
Date: 29 Apr 1999 09:54:07 -0400


  This is complete bull shit. First of all, Sting has his own
  apartment in New York. He doesn't stay in a hotel. And
  whenever he's here, Trudie is usually here too.
  And is it something about New York that suddenly turns him
  into a womanizer? I know he goes to strip clubs, and I don't
  really understand why, but prostitutes? I don't think
  there's any doubt that he and Trudie love each other.
  They've been together for quite some time now.
  And you know what, I'm tired of all the criticism. You can
  say whatever you want about Sting. Hell, I don't care if he
  does it with his goats at Lakehouse. The man is brilliant,
  and other people are jalous and will make up stories to
  tarnish his name.
  I know for a FACT that this prostitute story is completely
  untrue. I'm not saying that because I'm a fan and don't want
  to believe it. I KNOW it isn't true. So if you once revered
  him, you can safely go back to revering him...

  Fred.
>
>  >  ---------------------- Forwarded by Gergely A
>  >  Nagy/BUD/Pharms/SB_PLC on
>  >  04/29/99 01:00 PM ---------------------------
>  >
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>  >
>  >
>  >  disappoint you, but I just discovered something very
>  disturbing this
>  >  morning.  A good friend of mine in NYC told me that Gordon Matthew
>  >  Sumner is nothing short of a crude womanizer whenever he is in New
>  >  York.  Every time he is there, the man hosts nothing short
>  >  of three-four
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Subject: Re: (police) Question
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My apologies ^_^, I understand... well, your point of view on the movie.






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>It's about the "Dune" Sci-Fi saga. Sting played a character in the
>"Dune" David Lynch movie based on the novels of Frank Herbert.
>
>But unfortunately, the movie isn't good.

Speak for yourself.  The whole movie was worth it just to see Sting
strutting around in space bikinis.  *grin*
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Subject: Re: (police) Question
Date: 29 Apr 1999 07:28:04 -0700

The answer, of course, is FEYD - the character Sting played in the somewhat overblown movie 'Dune'

Outlando

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From: Liz Belmont <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (police) Hate to . . .
Date: 29 Apr 1999 10:37:00 -0400 (EDT)

On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Fred Berthelot wrote:

>
>   This is complete bull shit. First of all, Sting has his own
>   apartment in New York. He doesn't stay in a hotel. And
>   whenever he's here, Trudie is usually here too.

Yes, why on earth would he stay in a hotel? That's bizarre, considering
that he's got an apartment.

>   And is it something about New York that suddenly turns him
>   into a womanizer? I know he goes to strip clubs, and I don't
>   really understand why, but prostitutes?

Sting AND Trudie have gone to strip clubs together. (Sting likes going to
Scores when in NYC...just in case you ever want to check the place out.)

Lots of men--not just Sting--like to frequent strip clubs, but that
certainly doesn't turn them into womanizers.

And I have lived in or around NYC my entire life, and believe me,
categorizing NYC as a sort of "heathen town" is ridiculous.

Take a walk down 42nd Street nowadays. It's all been Disney-fied!

>I don't think
>   there's any doubt that he and Trudie love each other.
>   They've been together for quite some time now.

And what they do or don't do in their private life is none of our
business, just as it is none of Sting's business what I do in my
life (although, you know, if he asked me, I'd probably tell him. Hee hee!)

>   And you know what, I'm tired of all the criticism. You can
>   say whatever you want about Sting. Hell, I don't care if he
>   does it with his goats at Lakehouse. The man is brilliant,
>   and other people are jalous and will make up stories to
>   tarnish his name.

I hear you, and I agree.

I remember on another music list I belong to that people were "up in
arms" because our hero was smoking cigarettes and marijuana. Wow! A
musician who smokes! Unheard of! It's such a nasty habit--let's just
bombard him with email and letters and tell him to stop! Let's just simply
forget all of the marvelous music he has written....

Argh.

Crazy world we live in.

Liz


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From: "Sofφa Casta±o" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Hate to . . .
Date: 29 Apr 1999 07:47:30 PDT

>And so what if it was true?
>
>So what if Sting did get "professionnal services"? I think trudie
would care
>but as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't take away any of the
pleasure I get
>from his music.
>
>It's not as if he was corrupting teenage girls or chasing kids in a
park!
>
>It does make me think about my life though.
>Maybe I should change carrer and move to NY. ;-)
>
>Salut!
>
>Jules
I absolutely agree. Besides, how do you know it's true?
C ya
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Subject: Re: (police) Hate to . . .
Date: 29 Apr 1999 08:02:33 -0700


> I know he goes to strip clubs, and I don't
>  really understand why,

It's because there are naked women there.

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Subject: Re: (police) Hate to . . .
Date: 29 Apr 1999 08:15:34 -0700


> I know he goes to strip clubs, and I don't
>  really understand why,

It's because there are naked women there.

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From: "terrence sheehan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Hate to . . .
Date: 29 Apr 1999 12:33:27 -0400


Even if this was true, It is behavior that is practiced by many important
men. The President of the US for example. Well close but no cigar!! Anyway,I
was never a big Sting fan because of who he was sleeping with! I am a fan of
Sting because of the great music he writes! His integrity in that area is
all that concerns me. As for his personal life, thats personal!! and none of
my business. Keep up the Good Work!! Sting is a Champion!!

Take Care,
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From: Dave & Wendy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Hate to . . .
Date: 29 Apr 1999 17:43:27 +0100

Greg wrote:

Forwarded by Gergely A Nagy/BUD/Pharms/SB_PLC on
04/29/99 01:00 PM -----------
>Subject:  Hate to . . .
>
>
>disappoint you, but I just discovered something very disturbing this
>morning.  A good friend of mine in NYC told me that Gordon Matthew
>Sumner is nothing short of a crude womanizer whenever he is in New
>York.  Every time he is there, the man hosts nothing short of three-four
>prostitutes in his hotel room.  And to think I once revered him . . .

We also got this note in our mail box this morning. How many other fan
sites has this person contacted ? Since we started running our web site
we've had a few notes like this. Some people just love to spread gossip.
Our copy of this note went straight into the trash !

Cheers
Wendy & Dave
Stingchronicity <http://www.stingchronicity.co.uk/>

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From: "beesting" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) On the subject of Sting's personal life
Date: 29 Apr 1999 12:50:55 -0400

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From: Thom & Holly Mollo <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Hijackers, the new album, and world peace
Date: 29 Apr 1999 13:24:31 -0400

Hi everyone,
I haven't really had a chance to post much lately, so here goes:

Re; Karel's hijacked account: Shortly after I joined this list, the same
thing happened to me. A member of this list hijacked my account to post a
stupid rumor about a reunion. At the time,I didn't reveal who it was, since
it was a (relatively) harmless prank, although I did receive enough Spam
about the post to feed a small nation. I don't view Karel's situation as
harmless, however, and I hope steps are being taken to insure that this
doesn't happen again.

Also, here's my two cents about the upcoming Sting album: To each their
own! Just because we're all fans doesn't mean we have to like everything he
does. I don't! And I personally hope the new album is ALL gooey love songs!

In light of all the unhappiness in the world today, let's strive for peace,
a little bit at a time. Let's start with our list, and then try to spread
it around the world.
"Let there be peace, and let it begin with me."

All my best wishes to everyone,

Holly Mollo

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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Hate to . . .
Date: 29 Apr 1999 13:25:50 -0400

Ross Viner wrote:

> > I know he goes to strip clubs, and I don't
> >  really understand why,
>
> It's because there are naked women there.

Good one.

By the way, Sting has said in interviews that he's never met a prostitute
he didn't like (and he does believe in legalized prosititution). He then
followed that up by saying he's not "buysexual" (I'd take that comment at
face value). (and the greatest amount of women he's slept with in one
week was 5, as I recall; it's been awhile since I read that article)

Much as I criticize Sting from time to time, I too, have serious problems
believing that hotel story.

Regards,
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (police) Sting 2CD Radio Show 1991 Timothy White Sessions
Date: 29 Apr 1999 15:02:32 EDT

For auction at eBay.
Follow this link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=95940502

Good luck

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From: "Karel Van Isacker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Hate to . . .
Date: 29 Apr 1999 23:00:58 +0200

>> I know he goes to strip clubs, and I don't
>>  really understand why,
>It's because there are naked women there.
Yeah, and really beautiful ones too! ;-)
For those who didn't get it: I find this all quite funny and at the same
times useless, whatever he does, his music is the only thing that really
interests me ... so I agree with what Terrence, Dave & Wendy, Aaron, Betheny
.... and all the others told; his music is what counts, nothing else ...
Cheers and you all have a fine weekend, maybe in a strip bar, who knows ;-)
Bye for now,
Karel


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From: Jason Sheldon <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Sting 2CD Radio Show 1991 Timothy White Sessions
Date: 29 Apr 1999 23:39:44 +0100

$77??? =20

I'm always intrigued as to how people sell stuff for the exhorbitant
amounts that they do.
$77 for a 'bootleg' that you can pick up for =A320-30 ($30-40?) at any
regular record fair?

Still, if anyone's daft enough to bid, I've got one of those USA Promo
copies of "Soul Cages" in the hessian cloth...

Bidding starts at =A3100....   via private email only...  and bids will be
taken until next Friday, 7th May, Midnight (GMT).
I reserve the right to refuse sale for any reason, without cashing monies,
can't take credit cards, only cash or cheque payable in sterling.....

See if that generates the interest I think it will...  <runs and ducks for
cover>...

Jason



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>For auction at eBay.
>Follow this link:
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D95940502
>
>Good luck
>
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (police) sting and strippers
Date: 29 Apr 1999 19:47:17 EDT

I live down here in south florida..where  there are a lot of strip clubs...i
have dated two different girls who have been dancers...and both have danced
for Sting in clubs..one down here and one in NYC. Who the hell cares if he
goes...i doubt he uses prostitutes...but my guess is that he and Trudie have
an kinky sex life..and probably have 3-somes ( my guess is that she is
bi)..hey its every guys damn dream!!! so be it...but thats just my opinion
and who the fuck cares as long as his music rox..(just as long as he never
works with elton,rod,or bryan again)....ok folks...gotta go..going to see the
b52's in west palm tonight!

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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Live Aid Part II
Date: 29 Apr 1999 21:57:33 -0400

This was a post from another music list I'm on (my apologies to at least
a couple of people who are reading this for the second time):

>From Canoe Online, U2 [and Sting] content near the bottom:

http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusic/apr29_netaid.html

                Live Aid follow up concert set
                for October

             By RICHARD JOHN -- JAM! Showbiz

             One of the biggest charity events of the 1980s
           is going to have a sequel.

           Live Aid, an all day charity concert which took
           place in London and Philadelphia on July 13,
           1985 is reportedly to be followed up this fall by
           Net Aid. The 1985 concert raised $100 million
           for starving Africans.

           Net Aid is set to take place October 9, 1999 at
           venues in three cities - Wembley Arena,
           London, Giants Stadium, New York and the
           Opera House, Geneva. Like Live Aid before it,
           Net Aid is being arranged to fight global
           poverty.

           The event is being organized by the United
           Nations Development Fund and Cisco
           Systems, a technical company, with Sir Harvey
           Goldsmith - who promoted Live Aid -
           producing.

           Goldsmith told the BBC, "It's a shift from just
           doing a knee-jerk concert to raise money,
           because this is an on-going. The concert itself
           is just a catalyst to get people to understand, to
           promote the opportunity to people to get
           involved and get involved in this internet site".

           He added: "A call to action is what we're trying
           to get to".

           This being the information age, Net Aid will
           take full advantage of the Internet with a
           special web site set up to broadcast all three
           concerts. Viewers will also be able to make
           cash pledges through the internet site.

           As with Live Aid, the concerts will also be
           broadcast through convential methods (ie.
           television) as well. There will also be
           conventional telephone lines set up for pledges.


           As far as the lineup goes, no one has been
           confirmed, but a number of names have been
           bandied about by various media outlets. Those
           names include Lauryn Hill, Celine Dion, Sting
           and U2. Bono, U2's vocalist, is founder of
           Jubilee 2000, which is set up to eradicate third
           world debt by 2000, so there's a good chance
           they will perform.

           The most curious name mentioned is being
           reported out of Australia. Online e-zine
           Undercover is reporting that 'organizers' has
           suggested George Michael to reform Wham!
           for the event.

           Tickets for the London show at Wembley
           Arena go on sale mid-June. No word on
           whether Live Aid/Band Aid founder Bob
           Geldof will be approached to take part.


So Georgie is reforming Wham???? Good fertilizer to sprout Police
rumours, no doubt.

Regards,
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Aaron Cole
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From: mlane <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (police) Question
Date: 29 Apr 1999 22:45:26 -0500

At 09:02 AM 4/29/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>It's about the "Dune" Sci-Fi saga. Sting played a character in the
>>"Dune" David Lynch movie based on the novels of Frank Herbert.
>>
>>But unfortunately, the movie isn't good.
>
>Speak for yourself.  The whole movie was worth it just to see Sting
>strutting around in space bikinis.  *grin*

>______________________
>wee kimberleen
>"Love which is madness is not love"




I agree,Kim! It was so weird when I first saw Dune...I had just been at
Jen's I Burn For You site and had seen those pics of Sting as Feyd,not
knowing that yet.My dad was watching Dune on the Sci-Fi channel..and it came
to the last scene and there he was,in that groovy costume.I nearly passed
out.SO weird!
Maybe it has something to do with synchronicity....*grins*



                                                      ~Mollie~
                                                      ~Syn^Chronicity_II~
                                                      ICQ:14952490


~It may seem a million miles away
but it gets a little closer everyday~


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From: Dave & Wendy <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Great picture of Sting
Date: 30 Apr 1999 12:22:30 +0100

Thanks to Martin Nickel, we've just added a terrific photo of Sting that he
took outside Carnegie Hall at the Rainforest Show. Martin, the sooner you
turn pro the better!! There's a thumbnail on the news page, and an
enlragement can be accessed by clicking the thumbnail.

Cheers and thanks Martin!
Dave & Wendy
Stingchronicity <http://www.stingchronicity.co.uk/>

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From: "Karel Van Isacker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) Someone to watch over me .... LIVE in VQF-format
Date: 30 Apr 1999 18:29:02 +0200

Hello Folks,

the brilliant song "Someone to watch over me" live at the Wiltern Theater,
Los Angeles, California, USA on July the 27th 1988.

The song can be downloaded at my site
(http://users.skynet.be/sky82115/bootlegs).
For download go to the link "VQF" which will bring you to a page where you
can download the song (+ the required software to play it -also on Winamp
players-).
If you have any new requests, feel free to send them to me!

Cheers and enjoy it!
Karel
http://users.skynet.be/sky82115/bootlegs


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From: The Webslinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: (police) MuchMoreMusic
Date: 30 Apr 1999 21:32:25 -0400

For Canadians, tune in to MuchMoreMusic on May 22nd at 10 a.m. (I
believe this is Eastern Standard Time) and May 30th at 8 p.m. (EST).
Supposedly there will be a segment on Sting's music during these time
slots.

(Brief mention of U2 on May 10th at 8pm. EST)

Check out www.muchmoremusic.com

Regards,
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