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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:29:44 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orb) Vinyl ==> Mp3

I know a couple of people posted on this recently, but what is the best way
of getting Vinyl to mp3. I tried following the links, but it seemed to talk
about mp3 in general rather than getting Vinyl or another Audio source to
mp3.

I know mp3 loses something in the compression, but I don't really care. I
need to get several tracks onto CD for listening to elsewhere.

I have EasyCD v5, and it has Spin Doctor, which is supposed to do the job
via a sound card. Either I'm a spastic or the soundcard is pretty basic, cos
I couldn't get it to work [It's the default Soundmax one that comes with the
new Compaq Deskpro's].

I tried every which way to get it to work and I just ended up recording
silence.

I tried using my Technics SL1200 with both an Ortofon cart and a Stanton via
a lead that took phono to a single banana plug. Then I remembered that the
output from phono it very low, so took it through my mixer which has a
preamp. Still no difference.

Any ideas?


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Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 12:49:31 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orb) (non-orb) NWO crappage

In a message dated Fri, 1 Jun 2001  5:46:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Paul Ketley <[e-mail]> writes:

<<
Pity this but...

The Kyoto Agreement should've been sponsored by
Microsoft as the moment it came into existance it was
out of date.

George W. Bush will do for Alaska what the crew of the
Exxon Valdez could only dream about.

This list amazes me.  Somebody in the States actually
backing-up George W.  A bit like someone over here
actually liking Mrs. Th****** or visiting Prague and
eating at McD****** in Wensclas Square.>>

Hmmph. Every time I see Bush's irritating sneer it makes we want to throw up.

The only reason this doofus is President is because so many ignorant fools bought into his whole "clean up the White House" bullshit. While I'm not suggesting Clinton was an angel, the fact that so many people could be duped into voting for Bush just because Clinton got a blow job in the Oval Office is sickening. If any of these idiots would be willing to read a little history, they'd realize that Clinton wasn't the first Prez to screw around - he just had the "luck" of doing it in a time when we can find out anything about anyone, anytime of the day, because the press has a right to. But they all bought into it, or at least just enough of them did, since it was hardly a landslide victory, And don't even get me started about the Florida votes. No, I'm sure nothing crooked went on there, of course not..

I'm not suggesting what Clinton did was "OK", but I'll take his legacy over an underqualified ass who's strings are pulled by oil companies any day.

The good news is that with the change of power in the Senate, Bush will now become a carbon copy of the Prez his father was - frustrated and ultimately inconsequential. Senator Jeffords, you're my hero.

Sorry for the tangeant, I just had to unleash a bit....

Now to get back on topic - anyone from Chicago going to the Area 1 show? I'm still contemplating myself...



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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:59:31 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orb) Splitting up mp3's

Meant to ask this at the same. Apologies for the multiple posts.

Anyone know the best way [or software] for splitting up large mp3's into
halves or something? some of the live sets from the CD tree are over 80 mins
long and EasyCD won't let me write them to CD as they fall off the end.

I even tried using some other mp3 burning s/w I had and that was the same.

I'm talking about mp3 to audio, rather than just burning the mp3 to a
cd.............



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Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 13:03:51 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orb) Aw, c'mon folks!

> ===>I'm pretty sure that the earth is not going to fall to pieces.

    Good point! I love trying to explain this to people. HUMAN BEINGS
DO NOT (currently) HAVE THE ABILITY TO DESTROY ALL LIFE ON THE PLANET. The
only way we could do this is by either ruining the earth's orbit or
blocking out/destroying the sun. Even if we had nuclear war and we wiped
out everything except for some little bacteria and microbes in the south
pole, that's already like 50 steps from the beginning! Its already
self-replicating competing DNA-based fucking life! :)<<<

I agree with you both on one thing: I don't think that we have the ability to destroy the Earth. Why? I think that once we push the Earth enough, it'll push back and we won't stand a chance.

But does this mean we shouldn't be concerned about what we do to the environment? Doesn't it say a lot for a people who would disregard their environment, or view it as "something we can't ruin so it doesn't matter what we do? We don't have to go overboard with environmentalism but it has to be in the radar screen, folks. And anyone who spouts on about "scientific facts" - wake up, not everything can be justified by science. Science is a tool, not a rule book.






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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:08:22 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (orb) Splitting up mp3's

nope. I'm a PC boy. Sorry.



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Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 13:15:09 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orb) crappage/what GOD said to the environmentalists

<<
what GOD said to the environmentalists:

"when you've finished-up eliminating all the non-native plants, you can go
to work on the non-native peoples."

- --spearman (fed up with enviro/nonenviro crappage)>>

Ironically, many Christians mistook this as a message meant for them....



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Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 10:19:33 -0700
From: Chris Johnson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Splitting up mp3's

[e-mail] wrote:

> Anyone know the best way [or software] for splitting up large mp3's into
> halves or something? some of the live sets from the CD tree are over 80 mins
> long and EasyCD won't let me write them to CD as they fall off the end.
>
> I even tried using some other mp3 burning s/w I had and that was the same.
>
> I'm talking about mp3 to audio, rather than just burning the mp3 to a
> cd.............

Use a conversion utility to convert them into .wavs, then use a .wav
editor to slice, dice, etc. to your heart's content. Then burn the .wavs
to an audio CD.

The process I use is:

Convert the mp3 to wav using EAC.

Use SoundForge 4.5 to develop a tracklisting with timings and clean up
the file (get rid of tape-flips, silence, glitches, etc. Then cut the
file into CD-sized chunks (I prefer to use cue-sheets, rather than a
bunch of wav files.)

Generate a cue-sheet, and burn with CDRWin.

(For the Teatime shows I do much the same thing, except I use Streambox
Ripper to convert the original RA files, and I cut the discs into
10-minute chunks on the cue-sheet, rather than try to do track breaks.)

I've done close to half the the shows from the mp3 set, and I'm willing
to provide my tracklistings/timings...it takes a lot of time to do it;
no reason a bunch of us should be repeating the same effort. I'm also
willing to trade copies of the shows I've done...)

Chris

np: Underworld - Dark & Long


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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:31:36 -0400
From: "Andrew Cieszkowski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orb) Aw, c'mon folks!

Just to throw another log on the fire and because I'm enjoying this trip
away from orbness ;-)

Alexander Graham Bell was born on March 3, 1847, in Edinburgh, SCOTLAND.

GERMAN engineer Paul Nipkow designed the first true television mechanism.

In the 60's the Pentagon based their computer network on a computer network
system designed at a unversity in SWITZERLAND.

In 1989 ENGLISH computer scientist Timothy Berners-Lee introduced the World
Wide Web (lets face it, the internet as most people know it).

Shall I go on?

Andrew Cieszkowski

"It's like something from another planet."
Dr. LX Paterson



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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:26:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Benjamin L. May" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orb) Aw, c'mon folks!

> It might be poor, but everyone gets the same wage i.e. 30 dollars. I think
> Doctor's get marginally more, but then they should do. I'm afraid that's
> what communism does.

    Yeah but the natives are paid in pesos, which are illegal for
tourists to spend. Plus american money is legal tender there. Its pretty
funny, everything has two prices, the peso price and the dollar price.

> Ask yer average Cuban does he mind or does he care that a road sweeper gets
> the same - probably not, as he knows no different.

    True dat.

> Is it a bad thing? I don't know. I suspect that now the US embargo has gone
> [Jan this year] the US tourist dollar will start to make it a little more
> Capitalist.

    Oh man, thats gonna be the end of the cuban lobsters then. When
you go there, they have these guys who try and sell you live lobsters in a
little cardboard box right before you get on the plane. The lobsters are
endangered, plus they're considered a national resource by the government
so its illegal for individuals to eat them. What a strange place to
visit...




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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:32:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Benjamin L. May" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Splitting up mp3's

    I usually just do this with winamp. :) You can use the wav out
plugin and then just stop the track at 74 minutes, rename the file, and
start it up again at 74:01 and then you have two wav files. Works and is
really easy...

> Anyone know the best way [or software] for splitting up large mp3's into
> halves or something? some of the live sets from the CD tree are over 80 mins
> long and EasyCD won't let me write them to CD as they fall off the end.



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Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 17:34:11
From: "Spear man" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) crappage and more

>Who are you, Spear Man, and why are you spamming the Orb list?

a long time list member who usually lurks and occasionally plays the devil's
and other's advocate.


===>Well, what Brian and I are opposed to is becoming like
Cuba and China.  The U.S. finally voted out of office an
administration which was "buddy-buddy" with China

not so fast Bush fanboy

>--even
willing to sell our nuclear secrets and missiles to them.

Do I need to remind you that high US technology was delivered to the Chinese
under the current administration in the form of an $80 million aircraft?
Bush giving the crew  medals of honour was a joke--a typical political
trick.  The only way those people would be military heroes would have been
if that plane had ended up in the ocean--not in the hands of the Chinese.


>What is this new world order I've heard people speaking of?<

global totalitarianism even the Chinese envy.

>And is
being autonomous a virtue in its own right? I don't see how...<

Did I say it was?
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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:34:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Benjamin L. May" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Aw, c'mon folks!

> I agree with you both on one thing: I don't think that we have the
> ability to destroy the Earth. Why? I think that once we push the Earth
> enough, it'll push back and we won't stand a chance.

    Yeah word. The destructive force of nature is pretty big. :)

> But does this mean we shouldn't be concerned about what we do to the
> environment?

    I didn't say that! :) Of course we should be concerned, aware
even. The problem with the human race is that we don't see the way that we
are connected to every living thing on the planet.

> Doesn't it say a lot for a people who would disregard
> their environment, or view it as "something we can't ruin so it
> doesn't matter what we do?

    That isn't what I meant. I was just speaking to our hautiness as a
race, not using it as an excuse.

> We don't have to go overboard with
> environmentalism but it has to be in the radar screen, folks. And
> anyone who spouts on about "scientific facts" - wake up, not
> everything can be justified by science. Science is a tool, not a rule
> book.

    Plus, the answers we get from science are often (read: always)
inconclusive to a greater or lesser degree.




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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:35:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Benjamin L. May" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orb) Aw, c'mon folks!

> Just to throw another log on the fire and because I'm enjoying this trip
> away from orbness ;-)
>
> Alexander Graham Bell was born on March 3, 1847, in Edinburgh, SCOTLAND.

    <snip>

    I worship the ground you walk on andy. You're my new hero!!! :)



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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:57:09 -0500
From: "Vince Frank" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Phone and technology

> Alexander Graham Bell was born on March 3, 1847, in Edinburgh, SCOTLAND.
>
> GERMAN engineer Paul Nipkow designed the first true television mechanism.
>
> In the 60's the Pentagon based their computer network on a computer network
> system designed at a unversity in SWITZERLAND.
>
> In 1989 ENGLISH computer scientist Timothy Berners-Lee introduced the World
> Wide Web (lets face it, the internet as most people know it).
>
> Shall I go on?

===>First, I should point out that none of the above-mentioned
countries are communist.  I never said that they were invented
in the U.S.

Secondly, although Bell may have been born in Scotland,
he immigrated to the U.S.  The U.S., as you may know, is
made up almost entirely by immigrants.  That is our
strength.

Thirdly, although many of these products may not have
had their origins in the U.S., it was U.S. companies and
individuals who either perfected them or came up with ways
of mass marketing them.  (Incidentally, wasn't the
automobile a German invention, too?  But it was Henry
Ford who perfected the assembly line.)

Basically, what I'm trying to say is, ALL of the above-mentioned
nations (not just the U.S.) encourage innovation because of
the very nature of capitalism.

Vince



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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:59:19 -0500
From: "Vince Frank" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Huh?

> what GOD said to the environmentalists:
>
> "when you've finished-up eliminating all the non-native plants, you can go
> to work on the non-native peoples."
>
> --spearman (fed up with enviro/nonenviro crappage)>>
>
> Ironically, many Christians mistook this as a message meant for them....

===>Um...what?  Are you saying that Christians are the only
ones who



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Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 13:02:02 -0500
From: oobe <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Aw, c'mon folks!

: ===>Ok, perhaps I was wrong to lump everyone together.
: However, I used to be involved with environmental groups while
: in college, and eventually came to the realization that the
: majority of their arguments (to use a grand sweeping
: generalization) were based not on logic, but rather, emotion,
: and half-understood (and usually skewed) scientific evidence.


Vince, you're talking about college students.  COLLEGE STUDENTS.  You know,
college- the time of experimentation, opening up, learning....  College
students are just a couple of years older than high school students.  Of
course they are more passion than logic, duh.  Once again, you have decided
to conveniently wrap this whole problem up into a nice, tidy package that,
eventually, is a baseless, stinky piece of shit.


: ===>I'm pretty sure that the earth is not going to fall to pieces.
: Just let me ask this:  is the earth cleaner today than it was in
: the 1970s?

oh jeses christ. that's not what it's about, asshole.  I swear to god, an
evironmentalist suggests we should pick up some trash and Vince blows it up
into that they are screaming armeggeddon. Another typical childish strategy
to disarm their argument.  Let's not deal with their argument.  Let's just
pretend that they are raving maniacs who want to turn the USA into a bunch
of beatnick communists.  there's a term for that kind of strategy, Vince
It's called the politics of fear.  The republiKan party are experts at it,
as a whole.  I'm so fucking tired of that.  Every fascist nation in the
history of the world gained power this way.  Yet, you claim that
environmentalists are the ones closer to bringing this democracy down?
Pshhhh...  Let's talk about this again at a time when the issue of what I
can do and what I can't do in the privacy of my own home (republiKans want
laws against certain sexual acts, homosexuality, etc...) or what religious
faith my children have to inundated with in the classroom (republiKans want
the Ten Commandments hanging on the wall and daily school prayer over the
PA).  Then we can talk about abortion.  Yeah, the environmentalists are the
ones coming for your freedoms... Aww just fuck right off with that nonsense.

: ===>Well, what Brian and I are opposed to is becoming like
: Cuba and China.  The U.S. finally voted out of office an
: administration which was "buddy-buddy" with China--even
: willing to sell our nuclear secrets and missiles to them.

Oh really?  Since you claim to be SUCH a hero of documented evidence and
proof before you will alter your position on the environment,  let's see
proof that Clinton  sold nuclear secrets to the China.  C'mon dickless,
let's see the proof! Don't have it?  Didn't think so... now sit the fuck
right down and keep your piehole shut!

: China is a country which will massacre its own people
: when they want change.  (Granted, the U.S. Justice
: Department was really no better under the Clinton
: administration.)

Yeah, that's exactly my point, genius. China and Ameica are like night and
day.  So stop pretending that America is one step away from communism
everytime shit needs to get cleaned up.  Newsflash: The Constitution does
NOT grant you limitless freedoms!

: ===>Only when people are permitted to be selfish does
: true progress occur.  This is why capitalism is superior to
: socialism.

Man, you are just a fucken expert on everything, aren't ya?  Man... the
environment, ecology, finance, economics, the Constitution!  Wow!  Amazing!
Another newsflash for Vince: the powers of corporations and individual
persons alike have always been, and necessarily so, curbed to ensure
protection for various aspects of business, the economy, and the
environment.  This is fucken necessary gat'damnit.  A pure capitalist,
essentially what a corporation is since they are viewed as individuals under
law for some goddamned reason- cares only about one thing- the bottom line.
It does not care about health.  Safety.  The environment.  Future
generations.  It cares only about the $.  I'm all for capitalism, but only
under regulations that prevent the dangers that they also carry along with
them.  And capitalism isn't so fucken rosey, cheech.  It creates, and
perpetuates, a class-based society.  Which is funny, because a democracy is
diametrically opposed to that.

This is why the United States and other capitalist
: nations are so technologically advanced, and the standard of
: living for their citizens is so high, and countries.....

[snip: a long rant about absolutely nothing]

: ===>Actually, Brian, I believe, *does* know what he's talking
: about.  You just happen to disagree with what he is saying,
: which is fine.

Oh really?  What is he is trying to say?  I broke up his entire post.  What
did I miss?  What golden intellectual giblet did I not see?  I wasn't
disagreeing with him as much as insulting him- because he obviously needed
it.  He really made no points at all, but managed to expose himself as the
bloated, repugnant, and very likely, ugly person that he is.  Anyway, Vince,
you are clearly more interested in chest thumping yourself into intellectual
oblivion about being a "proud amerikan!" than anything else.  That long
tirade of yours about how ameriKa is the greatest place on earth and
everything else and everyone else sucks and every other country is just
jealous of our success is one of the dumbest pieces of fuck I've ever read
from someone who fancies himself as intelligent.  I'll repeat: fucken
pathetic.

- -=oobe



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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:13:11 -0400
From: Rob_King <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) Enough with the flaming/ranting

Please take your arguements on environmentalism, religion, politics and
other personal attacks off-list.  Jeez...!


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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:18:42 -0500
From: John Moxness <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orb) Enough with the flaming/ranting

Please take your arguements on environmentalism, religion, politics and
other personal attacks off-list.  Jeez...!

===>that goes for you too -=oobe before you make a true ass out of yourself.


    whoops too late.


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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:21:24 -0400
From: "Meredith, Justin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orb) Enough with the flaming/ranting

right - if you are going to insult someone at least have the common sense
not to do it in front of everyone else - for all i care you and Vince can
hack it out all you want PRIVATELY...

::Please take your arguements on environmentalism, religion,
::politics and
::other personal attacks off-list.  Jeez...!


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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:25:34 -0500
From: "Vince Frank" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orb) And more

> oh jeses christ. that's not what it's about, asshole.  I swear to god, an
> evironmentalist suggests we should pick up some trash and Vince blows it up
> into that they are screaming armeggeddon. Another typical childish strategy
> to disarm their argument.  Let's not deal with their argument.  Let's just
> pretend that they are raving maniacs who want to turn the USA into a bunch
> of beatnick communists.  there's a term for that kind of strategy, Vince
> It's called the politics of fear.  The republiKan party are experts at it,
> as a whole.  I'm so fucking tired of that.  Every fascist nation in the
> history of the world gained power this way.  Yet, you claim that
> environmentalists are the ones closer to bringing this democracy down?
> Pshhhh...  Let's talk about this again at a time when the issue of what I
> can do and what I can't do in the privacy of my own home (republiKans want
> laws against certain sexual acts, homosexuality, etc...) or what religious
> faith my children have to inundated with in the classroom (republiKans want
> the Ten Commandments hanging on the wall and daily school prayer over the
> PA).  Then we can talk about abortion.  Yeah, the environmentalists are the
> ones coming for your freedoms... Aww just fuck right off with that nonsense.

===>I never said I was a Republican.  And, for the record, I am
not.

> Man, you are just a fucken expert on everything, aren't ya?  Man... the
> environment, ecology, finance, economics, the Constitution!  Wow!  Amazing!

===>I think so, too (although my wife knows the truth).  ;-)

> bloated, repugnant, and very likely, ugly person that he is.  Anyway, Vince,
> you are clearly more interested in chest thumping yourself into intellectual
> oblivion about being a "proud amerikan!" than anything else.  That long
> tirade of yours about how ameriKa is the greatest place on earth and
> everything else and everyone else sucks and every other country is just
> jealous of our success is one of the dumbest pieces of fuck I've ever read
> from someone who fancies himself as intelligent.  I'll repeat: fucken
> pathetic.

===>Actually, I do not recall saying America is the greatest place
on earth.  I *do* recall, however, saying that capitalism is far
superior to Marxist philosophy.  The U.S. is *not* the only capitalist
nation in the world.

Am I the only one on this list who is getting a kick out of all
this?  I can't remember being verbally abused this much since
my senior year in college (almost ten years ago) when I
sent out an all-campus mailer to celebrate Earth Day, suggesting
that we should "help beach whales."  (Someone literally nailed
one to my door and wrote, "Stick this up your ass, Vince!!!"
Fuckin' hilarious!  :-)

I've gotta hand it to you, OOBE:  this is the first time I've
laughed today (and that's a good thing).

Have a great weekend!

Vince



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Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 13:28:47 -0500
From: oobe <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Enough with the flaming/ranting

aww.. did i hurt your wittle feewings, Johnny?  I'm sowwy...

:
: Please take your arguements on environmentalism, religion, politics and
: other personal attacks off-list.  Jeez...!
:
: ===>that goes for you too -=oobe before you make a true ass out of
yourself.
:
:
:     whoops too late.



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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:10:58 -0400
From: "</ x e n l a b >" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Ibiza

RE: (orb) Watch out, watch out, there's a FAKE Alex about!I wonder why
they all die? I mean you set up an island that has two things... tons
of clubs and "Stooper-Star DJ" condos... then encourage Hedonism and
Debauchery in such a way as to make Dionysus proud.

I can't wait to visit sometime... :-)

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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:06:54 -0400
From: "</ x e n l a b >" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Unidentified Frequencies of Orb?

These are Fan remixes. which upon further inspection you can tell that
they are the originals looped out and the samples from them played
over and over. There's some really good stuff on here, it's just not a
proper orb release (since they didn't the mixes or condone them to be
done)

Russian Intervention and Lunatics feel Love are my faves, personally
:)

i believe your track listing is correct, btw.

- -e

> >The Orb: Unidentified Frequencies of Orb
> >[1994] bootleg remix album
> >CD: 1994 UK (??; ??)
> >  8:47 Little Fluffy Clouds (out of ultraworld mix)
> >14:02 Out Of Body Experience (crack in the sky remix)
> >11:00 UFOrb (russian intervention mix)
> >15:21 Close Encounters (lunatics feel love mix)
> >14:01 Blue Room (universum mix)
> >  8:26 Towers of Dub (perpetual twighlight at dawn mix)




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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:32:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Benjamin L. May" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Aw, c'mon folks!

    Man, people on this list have honed their skills of argument and
insult better than I thought before!!! :)

> It's called the politics of fear.  The republiKan party are experts at it,
> as a whole.  I'm so fucking tired of that.  Every fascist nation in the
> history of the world gained power this way.  Yet, you claim that

    Wont somebody PLEASE think of the children! Selling drugs to our
children, corrupting the youth. I love it. :)

> can do and what I can't do in the privacy of my own home (republiKans want
> laws against certain sexual acts, homosexuality, etc...) or what religious

    Hey they already have laws dictating what kind of recreational
substances you can ingest. Why not other stuff? :P

> Oh really?  Since you claim to be SUCH a hero of documented evidence and
> proof before you will alter your position on the environment,  let's see
> proof that Clinton  sold nuclear secrets to the China.  C'mon dickless,
> let's see the proof! Don't have it?  Didn't think so... now sit the fuck
> right down and keep your piehole shut!

    O man, this paragraph is my favorite so far. BURN! :) How about
the perported 'damage' caused by Clinton et al to the whitehouse offices.
Didn't a committee a few days ago find that the spaces were basically what
you would expect to see when someone has to vacate office space quickly?
Heh heh.

> Another newsflash for Vince: the powers of corporations and individual

    I just thought I should add that with the mega-corporations we
have now the power that businesses wield is pretty scary. Lets not forget
that 95% of all news, print, and entertainment media come from the same 5
companies...

> oblivion about being a "proud amerikan!" than anything else.  That long
> tirade of yours about how ameriKa is the greatest place on earth and
> everything else and everyone else sucks and every other country is just
> jealous of our success is one of the dumbest pieces of fuck I've ever read
> from someone who fancies himself as intelligent.  I'll repeat: fucken
> pathetic.

    Sorry vince, but I have to agree here (except for the part where
he insults you). It is pretty silly to say that america is the best
country and whatnot.

    -Ben "Thinkin about the post-work off topic bitching posts he will
hear when people get home from work tonight and read all our posts" May




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Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 13:52:13 -0500
From: oobe <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Aw, c'mon folks!

: Man, people on this list have honed their skills of argument and
: insult better than I thought before!!! :)

You can too if you hang out in alt.bitterness for a couple of weeks. :)

: Wont somebody PLEASE think of the children! Selling drugs to our
: children, corrupting the youth. I love it. :)

???

:
: O man, this paragraph is my favorite so far. BURN! :) How about
: the perported 'damage' caused by Clinton et al to the whitehouse offices.
: Didn't a committee a few days ago find that the spaces were basically what
: you would expect to see when someone has to vacate office space quickly?
: Heh heh.

So?  Whart the fuck did you expect?  The guy was from fucking ARKANSAS!!!
We've traded one ridiculously horny redneck for one brazenly retarded
redneck.  I'll take the horny redneck everytime.

: I just thought I should add that with the mega-corporations we
: have now the power that businesses wield is pretty scary. Lets not forget
: that 95% of all news, print, and entertainment media come from the same 5
: companies...

Fuck, just take a look at the WTO.  Government by corporations.  Read 'Red
Mars' sometime.

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Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 13:56:39 -0500
From: oobe <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) And more

nice arguments Vince.

: ===>I never said I was a Republican.  And, for the record, I am
: not.

: ===>I think so, too (although my wife knows the truth).  ;-)

: ===>Actually, I do not recall saying America is the greatest place
: on earth.  I *do* recall, however, saying that capitalism is far
: superior to Marxist philosophy.  The U.S. is *not* the only capitalist
: nation in the world.



: Am I the only one on this list who is getting a kick out of all
: this?

no, i am too.  i haven't gotten to slam somebody for inane stupidity in a
while.


I can't remember being verbally abused this much since
: my senior year in college (almost ten years ago) when I
: sent out an all-campus mailer to celebrate Earth Day, suggesting
: that we should "help beach whales."  (Someone literally nailed
: one to my door and wrote, "Stick this up your ass, Vince!!!"
: Fuckin' hilarious!  :-)

I have plenty of unused things lying around that you can stick up your ass.
A toaster that my wife bought behind my back.  A salami roll.  My next door
neighbor's shitty yapping dog.  The unused external zip drive.  My copy of
the new Depeche Mode album...

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Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 19:02:20 -0000
From: "Lee Blanch" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [(orb) Something unrelated but vastly important to everyone!]

OK - did I hit a raw nerve here?

Unfortunately I cannot claim to have started this petition, I am merely just
passing it on but maybe I could enlighten some of you Americans it's just a
joke but all the other countries seem (including the UK) to have been quite
worried with regards to Bush getting presidency...with that brief-case with
the red button on it and everything...

Incidentally by my nature I am extremely Left wing so I have a notable
critcism for Bush and other politically Right people's ideologies, secondly
I am not a great fan of 'patriotism' as all it seems to do is promote
imperialism/capitalism both of which contribute to Third World debt, and
only further compounds the problems of the world as wealth is so unevenly
distrubuted.

I would go on but I am tired after having an exam on the paradoxes of
Liberty and Margaret Thatcher's impact on British Broadcasting - I hate
being a media student...

Lee.

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Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 12:17:30 -0700
From: Jason Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Splitting up mp3's

> Anyone know the best way [or software] for splitting up large mp3's into
> halves or something? some of the live sets from the CD tree are over 80 mins
> long and EasyCD won't let me write them to CD as they fall off the end.


You might have to convert it to a .wav first, but you can use Sound Forge 5
- - set markers where you want the tracks to start.   After that is finished,
choose convert markers to regions.  After that, choose export regions.  You
will end up with individual .wav tracks!   Burn at will...

:)

_jason_
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Apple Computer Inc.
iTunes team / Applications Engineering dept.
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Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 12:26:00 -0700
From: Tim C <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orb) Could be a helluva lot worse

> I envy the simplicity of your thought process.  It must be so much easier to
> go through life when you look at a huge portion of the population who share
> a common moral principle and lump them all into a group of nihlistic
> hypocrits using sophmoric stereotypes.  Yeah, I wish I wasn't plagued with
> accepting reality instead of someone else's cynical mantra like you and
> Vince have.  Fucking pathetic.

Well, actually, I use philosophy, rather than stereotypes, to perform my
value judgements.  It is a very powerful tool.  If it means that
recognizing incorrect philosophy as evil and destructive, and judging
the holders of said philosophy accordingly, well, so be it.  We are
living in an age where philosophically speaking, man has turned away
from reason - he still lives by it implicitly and out of necessity, but
without the concrete, explicit philosophical grounding required, he is
left defenseless intellectually - and we see the results in our
deteriorating world around us.  So, in this case, the "huge portion of
the population who share a common moral principle" (note the power of
philosophy is such that you actually recognized the essential and its
importance in this case) holds a moral principle that is fundamentally
anti-man, and therefore evil - and it must therefore be judged
accordingly.

T


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