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movies-digest         Saturday, March 3 2001         Volume 02 : Number 327



Re: [MV] Showgirls - So bad it's BAD!!
RE: [MV] Showgirls - So bad it's BAD!!
[MV] Spanking The Monkey
Re: [MV] Spanking The Monkey
RE: [MV] Castaway and Oscar nominations
RE: [MV] Castaway and Oscar nominations
RE: [MV] Castaway and Oscar nominations
[MV] X-Sender: [e-mail] (Unverified)
RE: [MV] X-Sender
[MV] Romantic Comedies
Re: [MV] Spanking The Monkey
RE: [MV] Spanking The Monkey
Re: [MV] Spanking The Monkey
RE: [MV] Hannibal : Too gory ??
[MV] Re: Blair Witch project!
Re: [MV] Re: Blair Witch project!
Re: [MV] Re: Blair Witch project!
RE: [MV] Re: Blair Witch project!
RE: [MV] Re: Blair Witch project!
Re: [MV] Spanking The Monkey
Re: [MV] Spanking The Monkey
Re: [MV] Spanking The Monkey
[MV] Gregory Hines' MASSIVE ERECTION
[MV] Gregory Hines' MASSIVE ERECTION
[MV] Famous movies you've never seen !
Re: [MV] Famous movies you've never seen !
[MV] Sequels - Hannibal, part.1
[MV] Karakter - 1997
[MV] The exorcist, part. 4
[MV] Austin Powers 3 !!!
[MV] Overrated directors !

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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:15:13 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [MV] Showgirls - So bad it's BAD!!

In a message dated 2/21/01 5:01:53 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> PS Next time you see Ms. Berkley I don't mind if you tell her this - as
>  long as you get me her phone number  : )

Trust me, she's heard it all before. She regularly has to deal with other
actors demanding that, if they're going to appear in a movies she's also
appearing in, that they don't have scenes with her and that their name
doesn't appear on the same opening credit card as hers.

Still, after she lobbed out the shirt potatoes so readily in Any Given Sunday
she can hardly complain that people aren't taking her seriously enough. Good
lord...

Did you want the LA or NY phone number? ;)

Chris Parry

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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:18:18 -0000
From: MARK DAINTY <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Showgirls - So bad it's BAD!!

Oh any will do, it's all long distance from the u.k.  :)

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    [e-mail] [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    21 February 2001 16:15
> To:    [e-mail]
> Subject:    Re: [MV] Showgirls - So bad it's BAD!!
>
> In a message dated 2/21/01 5:01:53 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> > PS Next time you see Ms. Berkley I don't mind if you tell her this -
> as
> >  long as you get me her phone number  : )
>
> Trust me, she's heard it all before. She regularly has to deal with
> other
> actors demanding that, if they're going to appear in a movies she's
> also
> appearing in, that they don't have scenes with her and that their name
>
> doesn't appear on the same opening credit card as hers.
>
> Still, after she lobbed out the shirt potatoes so readily in Any Given
> Sunday
> she can hardly complain that people aren't taking her seriously
> enough. Good
> lord...
>
> Did you want the LA or NY phone number? ;)
>
> Chris Parry
>
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:40:08 -0700 (MST)
From: A Kanizaj <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Spanking The Monkey

**SPOILERS ** (But only if you've never heard about the movie before)

I just finished re-watching this movie that Diane would NOT appreciate I'm
sure. I, however, thought it was brilliant. It was David O. Russel's
(Three Kings, Flirting With Disaster) first movie. It's about an 18 year
old who is coming home from his first semester at college. He is only
supposed to be home for a couple of days, but his suicidally depressed mom
needs to be taken care of, dad is going on a buisness trip, and they can't
afford a nurse. So our protagonist is shown being cut off from life, his
goals, being constantly angered with no outlet to express it, and,most
importantly, having absolutly no sexual outlet. Mom is experiencing all
the same things. So, about halfway through the movie, they fuck. It is by
no means an exploitation picture, there is nothing graphic in the film at
all (as someone recently said, you would have to use your Blair Witch
Imagination), but it is still very uncomfortable, most likely because most
of us would be able to relate. Has anybody else seen this?

- -ak


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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:12:01 -0600
From: Diane Christy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Spanking The Monkey

At 9:40 AM -0700 2/21/01, A Kanizaj wrote:
>**SPOILERS ** (But only if you've never heard about the movie before)
>
>I just finished re-watching this movie that Diane would NOT appreciate I'm
>sure. I, however, thought it was brilliant. It was David O. Russel's
>(Three Kings, Flirting With Disaster) first movie. It's about an 18 year
>old who is coming home from his first semester at college. He is only
>supposed to be home for a couple of days, but his suicidally depressed mom
>needs to be taken care of, dad is going on a buisness trip, and they can't
>afford a nurse. So our protagonist is shown being cut off from life, his
>goals, being constantly angered with no outlet to express it, and,most
>importantly, having absolutly no sexual outlet. Mom is experiencing all
>the same things. So, about halfway through the movie, they fuck. It is by
>no means an exploitation picture, there is nothing graphic in the film at
>all (as someone recently said, you would have to use your Blair Witch
>Imagination), but it is still very uncomfortable, most likely because most
>of us would be able to relate. Has anybody else seen this?

Hmmm, sounds different...  Could be interesting though.  Sounds like
Shakespeare.
- --
~~~~~
Diane Christy (Samantha and Joshua's Mom)
Jefferson, LA
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:56:07 -0500
From: tom ryder <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Castaway and Oscar nominations

Well, yes i realized my mistake right after I sent the e-mail.
Lynda

At 10:00 AM 2/21/01 +0000, you wrote:
>Err...you do know that Tom Hanks DIDN'T play Wilson don't you???  Wilson
>was the ball!!
>
>MARK
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:    tom ryder [SMTP:[e-mail]]
>> Sent:    21 February 2001 04:19
>> To:    [e-mail]
>> Subject:    RE: [MV] Castaway and Oscar nominations
>>=20
>> Yes, I agree.  Tom Hanks is a great actor and if he can carry this
>> film by
>> himself, that just proves he deserves the award.
>> Lynda
>>=20
>> At 04:52 PM 2/20/01 +0000, you wrote:
>> >no!
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From:    Enrique Bird [SMTP:[e-mail]]
>> >> Sent:    20 February 2001 16:08
>> >> To:    [e-mail]
>> >> Subject:    [MV] Castaway and Oscar nominations
>> >>=20
>> >> Friends,
>> >>=20
>> >> Does anyone here agree with a friend and I in thinking that the
>> >> charcater
>> >> Wilson in the movie "Castaway" should have received a best
>> supporting
>> >> actor
>> >> Oscar nomination?
>> >>=20
>> >> Enrique F. Bird Pic=F3
>> >> Email: Office =3D=3D=3D=3D> [e-mail]
>> >>           Personal =3D=3D> [e-mail]
>> >> Tel: Office [phone] ext. 348=20
>> >>        Home [phone]
>> >>=20
>> >>=20
>> >>=20
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>>=20
>> Lynda Ryder
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>> [e-mail]
>>=20
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:15:35 -0500
From: tom ryder <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Castaway and Oscar nominations

Well, I did realize my mistake, right after sending the email. =20
Lynda

At 10:00 AM 2/21/01 +0000, you wrote:
>Err...you do know that Tom Hanks DIDN'T play Wilson don't you???  Wilson
>was the ball!!
>
>MARK
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:    tom ryder [SMTP:[e-mail]]
>> Sent:    21 February 2001 04:19
>> To:    [e-mail]
>> Subject:    RE: [MV] Castaway and Oscar nominations
>>=20
>> Yes, I agree.  Tom Hanks is a great actor and if he can carry this
>> film by
>> himself, that just proves he deserves the award.
>> Lynda
>>=20
>> At 04:52 PM 2/20/01 +0000, you wrote:
>> >no!
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From:    Enrique Bird [SMTP:[e-mail]]
>> >> Sent:    20 February 2001 16:08
>> >> To:    [e-mail]
>> >> Subject:    [MV] Castaway and Oscar nominations
>> >>=20
>> >> Friends,
>> >>=20
>> >> Does anyone here agree with a friend and I in thinking that the
>> >> charcater
>> >> Wilson in the movie "Castaway" should have received a best
>> supporting
>> >> actor
>> >> Oscar nomination?
>> >>=20
>> >> Enrique F. Bird Pic=F3
>> >> Email: Office =3D=3D=3D=3D> [e-mail]
>> >>           Personal =3D=3D> [e-mail]
>> >> Tel: Office [phone] ext. 348=20
>> >>        Home [phone]
>> >>=20
>> >>=20
>> >>=20
>> >> [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ]
>> >> [ movies" (without the quotes) to [e-mail]          ]
>>=20
>> Lynda Ryder
>> 172/Intro to the Internet
>> [e-mail]
>>=20
>>=20
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>
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:42:44 -0500
From: tom ryder <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Castaway and Oscar nominations

Well, yes, i did realize my mistake, right after I had sent the e-mail.
Lynda


At 10:00 AM 2/21/01 +0000, you wrote:
>Err...you do know that Tom Hanks DIDN'T play Wilson don't you???  Wilson
>was the ball!!
>
>MARK
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:    tom ryder [SMTP:[e-mail]]
>> Sent:    21 February 2001 04:19
>> To:    [e-mail]
>> Subject:    RE: [MV] Castaway and Oscar nominations
>>=20
>> Yes, I agree.  Tom Hanks is a great actor and if he can carry this
>> film by
>> himself, that just proves he deserves the award.
>> Lynda
>>=20
>> At 04:52 PM 2/20/01 +0000, you wrote:
>> >no!
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From:    Enrique Bird [SMTP:[e-mail]]
>> >> Sent:    20 February 2001 16:08
>> >> To:    [e-mail]
>> >> Subject:    [MV] Castaway and Oscar nominations
>> >>=20
>> >> Friends,
>> >>=20
>> >> Does anyone here agree with a friend and I in thinking that the
>> >> charcater
>> >> Wilson in the movie "Castaway" should have received a best
>> supporting
>> >> actor
>> >> Oscar nomination?
>> >>=20
>> >> Enrique F. Bird Pic=F3
>> >> Email: Office =3D=3D=3D=3D> [e-mail]
>> >>           Personal =3D=3D> [e-mail]
>> >> Tel: Office [phone] ext. 348=20
>> >>        Home [phone]
>> >>=20
>> >>=20
>> >>=20
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>>=20
>> Lynda Ryder
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>> [e-mail]
>>=20
>>=20
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 20:01:20 -0500
From: tom ryder <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] X-Sender: [e-mail] (Unverified)

I don't have a lot of free time but would like to see a good movie this
week-end.  I especially like romantic comedys like While you were Sleeping
and Sleepless in Seattle.  Something on video would be fine or currently
playing at a theater.
thanks,
Lynda

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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:05:58 -0800
From: "Marc C. Desbiens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] X-Sender

I would suggest

- - Before sunrise
- - city of angels
- - Ever after
- - It could happen to you
- - Election
- - Welcome to the dollhouse
- - Being John Malkovich
- - Sliding doors ..

http://www.imdb.com/

etc.


>Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 20:01:20 -0500
>From: tom ryder <[e-mail]>
>Subject: [MV] X-Sender: [e-mail] (Unverified)
>To: [e-mail]
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>
>I don't have a lot of free time but would like to see a good movie this
>week-end.  I especially like romantic comedys like While you were Sleeping
>and Sleepless in Seattle.  Something on video would be fine or currently
>playing at a theater.
>thanks,
>Lynda
>
>Lynda Ryder
>172/Intro to the Internet
>[e-mail]
>
>
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 00:50:02 -0500
From: Mel Eperthener <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Romantic Comedies

At 08.01 PM 21/02/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>I don't have a lot of free time but would like to see a good movie this
>week-end.  I especially like romantic comedys like While you were Sleeping
>and Sleepless in Seattle.  Something on video would be fine or currently
>playing at a theater.

Who are you watching with, Lynda?? If it is by yourself, of with a group of
women, I will be the first to tell you not to take my advice, as I think my
interests would not match up very well.  However, if you are watching with
a husband/boyfriend/group of males or couples, I think I can recommend a
few films that everyone should enjoy.

First off, I really liked Keeping the Faith.  There were some good actors,
and it sounds like the old joke, "a priest and a rabbi walk into a bar...."
 Actually, I think they even use that line in the movie.  Small Time Crooks
is a good choice (tho light on the romance), as is The In Crowd (tho light
on comedy - or actually, not light, that is the problem).  The more daring
souls might want to try An Affair of Love (french with subtitles) or The
Five Senses, tho neither is really a comedy.  If you are just looking for a
good story, I would also highly recommend Frequency.  Also, I liked The
Replacements a lot, as a fun, mindless comedy.  Saw it twice, once on a
plane, and enjoyed it, even if I didn't take much from either viewing.

But, whatever you do, for god's sake, stay away from Autumn in New York.
Far, far away....:-)

As for what's in the theatres, well you might just want to stay home, get a
video camera, and make your own movie.  A quick glance at the movie
listings indicate that no matter how bad, it would still likely be better
than the dreck out there right now (assuming that you don't want to see
Hannibal, which, regardless of how you feel about it, you do have to admit
it is the only new film worth talking about).

Regards,

- --Mel




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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:38:19 -0700 (MST)
From: A Kanizaj <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Spanking The Monkey

Interesting..that's a word to describe it. How is it Shakespearian though?

- -ak

On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Diane Christy wrote:

> At 9:40 AM -0700 2/21/01, A Kanizaj wrote:
> >**SPOILERS ** (But only if you've never heard about the movie before)
> >
> >I just finished re-watching this movie that Diane would NOT appreciate I'm
> >sure. I, however, thought it was brilliant. It was David O. Russel's
> >(Three Kings, Flirting With Disaster) first movie. It's about an 18 year
> >old who is coming home from his first semester at college. He is only
> >supposed to be home for a couple of days, but his suicidally depressed mom
> >needs to be taken care of, dad is going on a buisness trip, and they can't
> >afford a nurse. So our protagonist is shown being cut off from life, his
> >goals, being constantly angered with no outlet to express it, and,most
> >importantly, having absolutly no sexual outlet. Mom is experiencing all
> >the same things. So, about halfway through the movie, they fuck. It is by
> >no means an exploitation picture, there is nothing graphic in the film at
> >all (as someone recently said, you would have to use your Blair Witch
> >Imagination), but it is still very uncomfortable, most likely because most
> >of us would be able to relate. Has anybody else seen this?
>
> Hmmm, sounds different...  Could be interesting though.  Sounds like
> Shakespeare.
> --
> ~~~~~
> Diane Christy (Samantha and Joshua's Mom)
> Jefferson, LA
> http://www.geocities.com/diane507/
> mailto:[e-mail]
> ICQ #12904700  <dchristy10> on Instant AOL Messenger
> ~~~~~
>
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:25:09 -0000
From: MARK DAINTY <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Spanking The Monkey

It's more Oedipean I would say

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    A Kanizaj [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    22 February 2001 14:38
> To:    [e-mail]
> Subject:    Re: [MV] Spanking The Monkey
>
> Interesting..that's a word to describe it. How is it Shakespearian
> though?
>
> -ak
>
> On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Diane Christy wrote:
>
> > At 9:40 AM -0700 2/21/01, A Kanizaj wrote:
> > >**SPOILERS ** (But only if you've never heard about the movie
> before)
> > >
> > >I just finished re-watching this movie that Diane would NOT
> appreciate I'm
> > >sure. I, however, thought it was brilliant. It was David O.
> Russel's
> > >(Three Kings, Flirting With Disaster) first movie. It's about an 18
> year
> > >old who is coming home from his first semester at college. He is
> only
> > >supposed to be home for a couple of days, but his suicidally
> depressed mom
> > >needs to be taken care of, dad is going on a buisness trip, and
> they can't
> > >afford a nurse. So our protagonist is shown being cut off from
> life, his
> > >goals, being constantly angered with no outlet to express it,
> and,most
> > >importantly, having absolutly no sexual outlet. Mom is experiencing
> all
> > >the same things. So, about halfway through the movie, they fuck. It
> is by
> > >no means an exploitation picture, there is nothing graphic in the
> film at
> > >all (as someone recently said, you would have to use your Blair
> Witch
> > >Imagination), but it is still very uncomfortable, most likely
> because most
> > >of us would be able to relate. Has anybody else seen this?
> >
> > Hmmm, sounds different...  Could be interesting though.  Sounds like
>
> > Shakespeare.
> > --
> > ~~~~~
> > Diane Christy (Samantha and Joshua's Mom)
> > Jefferson, LA
> > http://www.geocities.com/diane507/
> > mailto:[e-mail]
> > ICQ #12904700  <dchristy10> on Instant AOL Messenger
> > ~~~~~
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:54:20 -0600
From: Diane Christy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Spanking The Monkey

At 7:38 AM -0700 2/22/01, A Kanizaj wrote:
>How is it Shakespearian though?

It just sounds like it has the feel of a tragedy.  They were
uncomfortable to watch but seemed to be cathartic.  That's all I
meant.
- --
~~~~~
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Jefferson, LA
http://www.geocities.com/diane507/
mailto:[e-mail]
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:16:17 -0700
From: "MARK DAINTY <[e-mail]>" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Hannibal : Too gory ??

I wouldn't call the film over-violent, moreso, the violence is part of
the story.  If you want to see unnecessarily violent films check out a
Schwarzenegger movie, or somesuch.  Of course movies have an influence,
but the people that carry out acts of wanton violence don't do it
because of a moive that they have seen.  The movie is really the
catalyst, these people were already un-stable - if it wouldn't have been
the movie sparking them off it could have been anything, maybe someone
opening a packet of crisps next to them, maybe someone serving their
coffe without milk.

This movie is an "18" certificate, (or whatever the equivalent is in the
U.S.), therefore it goes someway to protecting "innocents" from seeing
it.  As for the body count, it must number around 10, with a large
portion of those killed being shot by the FBI in the raid at the
beginning.

MARK
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barb Kald [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 21 February 2001 05:12
> To:   [e-mail]
> Subject:      Re: [MV] Hannibal : Too gory ??
>
> Hi There,
>
> I read your discussions about "Hannibal" and found them very
> interesting.
> Some friends recommended mi that movie, so I went to see it.  I was
> shocked!!!!  I never expected so much violence!!!!  Some parts of the
> movie
> are still in my head.
>
> Now a days, scenes are way too explicit which influence people into
> even
> more violence.  Some of you may not agree with me here, but i strongly
>
> believe that movies/the media influence those that are weak of mind
> (such as
> kids, which you all might know, are involve in some kind of criminal
> behavior).
>
> I just think that "GOOD" movies are those which let you use your
> imagination!!!!!!
>
> =with all due respect=
> *Barb, (Chicago, IL)*
>
>
>
> >From: "Marc C. Desbiens" <[e-mail]>
> >Reply-To: [e-mail]
> >To: [e-mail]
> >Subject: [MV] Hannibal : Too gory ??
> >Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:18:11 -0800
> >
> >
> ><<<<< Elaine ranting about Hannibal >>>>>>
> >
> ><<<<<< Respectfully submitted  >>>>>>>>>>
> >
> >Ms. Diane your comments are creating quite a controversy !!
> >
> >Marc  ;-)
> >
> >==============================================================
> > >
> >Elaine wrote : ----------- Well, my thoughts were that this movie was
> about
> >a man who had
> > >cannibalistic tendencies and anyone going to see it should have
> known
> >that
> > >before stepping into the theater.  It wasn't as if this movie
> wasn't well
> > >anticipated or publicized.  Did she expect them not to show this?
> And if
> >she
> > >wasn't sure, why not wait and hear what others have to say and then
> make
> >a
> > >decision about whether there might be too much gore for her tastes?
> Why
> >go
> > >immediately upon it's opening?  Some people are like sheep and go
> see a
> >movie
> > >strictly because they don't want to be "left out."
> > >I don't agree with her at all that it was over the top.  I think
> they
> >used
> > >great restraint in how much they showed.  This is who, or what,
> Hannibal
> >is
> > >and there were parts that just couldn't be avoided.  Who would have
>
> >wanted to
> > >see a movie about him without showing this aspect?  It wasn't
> titled
> >"Looking
> > >for Dr. Lecter" it was titled "Hannibal!!!"   Grrrr!
> > >             Elaine  :)
> >
> >


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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:54:18 -0600
From: "Barb Kald" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Re: Blair Witch project!

"Blair Witch Project"  Very, very "GOOD" movie!!!


>From: Diane Christy <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: [MV] Hannibal : Too gory ??
>Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:07:51 -0600
>
>At 11:11 PM -0600 2/20/01, Barb Kald wrote:
>>I just think that "GOOD" movies are those which let you use your
>>imagination!!!!!!
>
>I so agree with you here!!  I thought "Blair Witch Project" was very
>good.  That's exactly what happened during that movie.  The entire
>movie took place in your own imagination.
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:15:05 -0500
From: Gene Ehrich <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Re: Blair Witch project!

At 07:54 PM 2/22/01 -0600, you wrote:
>"Blair Witch Project"  Very, very "GOOD" movie!!!

You are joking of course.

Worst movie of all time and I'm giving it the benefit
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:39:39 -0600
From: Diane Christy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Re: Blair Witch project!

At 9:15 PM -0500 2/22/01, Gene Ehrich wrote:
>You are joking of course.
>
>Worst movie of all time and I'm giving it the benefit
>of the doubt to even call it a movie.

Sorry, Gene.  I liked it.
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:26:07 -0000
From: MARK DAINTY <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Re: Blair Witch project!

I'm with you on this one Diane, I loved BWP!

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    Diane Christy [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    23 February 2001 04:40
> To:    [e-mail]
> Subject:    Re: [MV] Re: Blair Witch project!
>
> At 9:15 PM -0500 2/22/01, Gene Ehrich wrote:
> >You are joking of course.
> >
> >Worst movie of all time and I'm giving it the benefit
> >of the doubt to even call it a movie.
>
> Sorry, Gene.  I liked it.
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:28:29 -0600
From: "Barb Kald" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Re: Blair Witch project!

MARK, DIANE,

YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOOD!!
*Barb*


>From: MARK DAINTY <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: "'[e-mail]'" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: RE: [MV] Re: Blair Witch project!
>Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:26:07 -0000
>
>I'm with you on this one Diane, I loved BWP!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:    Diane Christy [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> > Sent:    23 February 2001 04:40
> > To:    [e-mail]
> > Subject:    Re: [MV] Re: Blair Witch project!
> >
> > At 9:15 PM -0500 2/22/01, Gene Ehrich wrote:
> > >You are joking of course.
> > >
> > >Worst movie of all time and I'm giving it the benefit
> > >of the doubt to even call it a movie.
> >
> > Sorry, Gene.  I liked it.
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:48:02 -0700 (MST)
From: A Kanizaj <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Spanking The Monkey

Wow. I wasn't jumping on you, just asking how. Your explanation makes
perfect sense; it describes the movie to a T.

- -ak

On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Diane Christy wrote:

> At 7:38 AM -0700 2/22/01, A Kanizaj wrote:
> >How is it Shakespearian though?
>
> It just sounds like it has the feel of a tragedy.  They were
> uncomfortable to watch but seemed to be cathartic.  That's all I
> meant.
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:03:14 -0600
From: Diane Christy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Spanking The Monkey

At 8:48 AM -0700 2/23/01, A Kanizaj wrote:
>Wow. I wasn't jumping on you, just asking how. Your explanation makes
>perfect sense; it describes the movie to a T.

I didn't think you were jumping on me at all!!  I was just explaining
my thought process.
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:27:48 -0700 (MST)
From: A Kanizaj <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Spanking The Monkey

Oh tay.

- -ak

On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Diane Christy wrote:

> At 8:48 AM -0700 2/23/01, A Kanizaj wrote:
> >Wow. I wasn't jumping on you, just asking how. Your explanation makes
> >perfect sense; it describes the movie to a T.
>
> I didn't think you were jumping on me at all!!  I was just explaining
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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 21:28:16 -0800
From: "Marc C. Desbiens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Gregory Hines' MASSIVE ERECTION

Alright, I am watching "The History of the world. Part. 1" (1981)
on Tv right about now ... It's on NBC, around midnight (Yes, I know I should be in bed !) and I just saw that one of my favorite scenes
has been "butchered" ... Those censors at work ??

I had not seen this film in 15 years at least but I remember the scene where Gregory Hines is "tempted" by the sexy dancer and despite his best efforts can't resist having an obviously  MASSIVE ERECTION ... well this scene is certainly not as funny in the version I just saw, we don't even get to see the huge feather raising, just a shot of Hines face has he makes a quick getaway after being "exposed" as a traitor or spy ... what is this ??

I was looking forward to that scene, Hines being "tempted" like that and the feather raising, so hilarious !! That was one of the funniest and most memorable scene in the movie so why not show it ?? Especially since the film is not presented at 7pm but very late
at night ...

What's the deal ??




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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 07:55:37 -0800
From: "Marc C. Desbiens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Gregory Hines' MASSIVE ERECTION

Ref.  The history of the world, Part. 1 (1981)

**** Marc ;-)

Elaine wrote : >Ah, Marc....
>You should have known better than to watch a movie on network televison.

**** Hehe !! Well, that movie was so-so ... 2/5, it was just frustrating that they cut that scene, yet later on in the movie during the "French revolution" segment, women are being treated like sex objects and it's supposed to be funny ??  I wasn't amused, I thought it was silly, the king grabbing the women's breasts repeatedly, get over it, boooooy !!  Is Brooks such a sexist ??  I didn't really like that french revolution part, treating women like dirt !!   The opening scenes in prehistoric times were also awful ... I liked the roman ones though ...

**** Also I realized you can't say "Piss" apparently ... they edited that word out in a very obvious way as Brook's is called the "P ---" boy ... there is a "silence" added so you can't hear the actual word ... lol !  Yet a few other nasty words are heard without any ""silences" added ... bizarre !!  ;-)

>lol!  I've seen what you described far too many times.  They cut scenes and
>bleep things that you hear on TV all the time.

**** Yes, it was silly because the movie was presented really late at night so I doubt anyone would have been offended by seeing a feather raising anyway !  Gregory Hines' funniest scene in the movie, except maybe for the one where he rolls a giant joint and lights it to get the roman pursuers stone !!  (No doubt this is Lisa's favorite scene too !!)

I realize some of it's done
>so they can "fit it in their allocated time slot" but it always irritates me.

**** Yes, I don't think they cut any scenes in this one though .. they just edited out some "bad words" and "explicit scenes" ... as ifffffff !!  It was quite offensive towards jewish people as well ... was there a big fuss over that when it was released ??

> I've given up watching anything I've seen and liked before (unless it's on
>cable) because I know I'll be disappointed.  I'll stick to videos for the
>good ones.

**** ;-)

>Calm down now and relax!  Get some sleep too!  :)
>Elaine  :)

**** Of course, mommy !
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:20:28 -0800
From: "Marc C. Desbiens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Famous movies you've never seen !

>Here are some famous movies I have never seen  :
>
>- Nixon
>- Mash
>- Malcolm X
>- Gandhi
>- Ishtar
>- Gone with the wind
>- Salvador
>- Lost in America
>- Dead ringers
>- Howard's end
>- The horse whisperer
>- Fried green tomatoes
>- Pretty in pink
>- Sixteen candles
>- Kansas city
>- The Russia house
>- Hannah and her sisters
>- Manhattan
>- Annie Hall
>- The sting
>- The unbearable lightness of being
>- Cry freedom
>- A night to remember
>
>and of course ...
>
>- ROBOT MONSTER !!

Any famous films you haven't watched yet ??
>
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:41:36 -0700
From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Famous movies you've never seen !

"Marc C. Desbiens" wrote:

> >- Nixon

S'okay, not worth bothering with.

> >- Malcolm X

Dry and long, not worth bothering with.

> >- Gandhi

Decent, but still on the dry side.

> >- Ishtar

Are you really worried about missing this stinker?

> >- Gone with the wind

Absolute must see, even 62 years later.

> >- Lost in America

Cute, but not necessarily worth searching out unless you are a big Albert Brooks fan.

> >- Dead ringers

Eerie, a cult hit.  Check out another great Cronenberg film, too:  "Naked Lunch"

> >- Howard's end

Dull period piece but still good.

> >- The horse whisperer

Why do all of Hollywood's "Great Romances" have to do with adultery (ie, "The Engish Patient")

> >- Fried green tomatoes

Overrated, but worth seeing.

> >- Pretty in pink

Don't bother.  Check out the better, similarly themed "Some Kind of Wonderful"

> >- Sixteen candles

Classic teen flick.  May not hold adults' interest.

> >- Hannah and her sisters

I still can't tell Woody Allen's comedies from his dramas.

> >- Annie Hall

See above.

> >- The sting

Good once.

> >- The unbearable lightness of being

Unbearably tedious.  You'll want the end to come sooner.  Better Day-Lewis flix:  "My Left Foot", "The Last
of the Mohicans"

> >- Cry freedom

Interesting but lackluster.

> >- A night to remember

The blueprint for screwball comedies.  Will seem quite dated to those who don't love classics.

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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:10:55 -0800
From: "Marc C. Desbiens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Sequels - Hannibal, part.1

Good article in the paper the other day about sequels and actors accepting to be the "replacement actors" when the original stars refuse to participate a-la Jodie Foster and "Hannibal" ... I'll send it in multiple parts since it is rather long ...

=================================================================

"It is always hard to replace an actor in a sequel, in "Hannibal", Julianne Moore replaces Jodie Foster who refused to play the part again.  Moore didn't want to do any interviews though because she didn't want to have to answer questions regarding Foster and why she refused to appear in "Hannibal", especially since she had won an Oscar for her performance in the 1991 film."

"Actors who act as replacements have a tough time because people identify their characters with the previous performer of course.  Jason Patric replaced Keanu Reeves in "Speed 2" and the film didn't make half the money the first one did.  Patric is not responsible for this because people were not really missing Reeves, they were missing a good script."

"This doesn't mean that Hollywood is not interested in producing sequels because they are and more than ever in the past few years.
"Hannibal" would probably not have been made though if Anthony Hopkins had also refused to appear in the sequel.  Ridley Scott who directed the new film says he wouldn't have done it if both Foster and Hopkins had been absent."

"Hopkins' part is even more crucial in "Hannibal" and it is hard to imagine anyone else playing the part.  The character has an image and a voice that is quite memorable."

"Luckily, Hopkins accepted for 10M$ but he wanted to read the script first which was reasonable.  He wanted to make sure the script was good before going forward."

...

Marc  ;-)

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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:44:45 -0800
From: "Marc C. Desbiens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Karakter - 1997

Hi !

I liked this film a lot and I think it is very good (even if it certainly was a bit too slow in the middle section !)  3.5/5 overall.

I have mixed feelings about this film because I think the first third is excellent ... then it slows down quite a bit in the middle third before becoming intriguing again in the final third ...

The break down would be :
4/5 for the first third
2.5/5 for the middle third
4/5 for the last third !

The story is simple enough ... we follow the life of a man who may or may not have killed his father ... We are led to believe in the opening scene that he did although we are not sure.  Then the movie is told in multiple flashbacks in a rather interesting way, learning what happened and why he would be so angry at his dad.

It is set in Rotterdam in the 1920's and 1930's.  The father is a mean bailiff who mistreats quite a few people.  Great acting there, you just want to sucker punch the guy and that is what was required too !  He has an affair with his maid who then becomes pregnant but she doesn't want to have anything to do with him ... refuses to marry him and moves away to have the baby on her own.

The bailiff wants to marry her and give her money to help her with the baby but she refuses.  It is this baby's life we are following from the moment he was born until he becomes a lawyer just to spite his father and show him that he succeeded without his help ...

Great acting, dialogues ... I wish I could be more generous but the middle part where the young man goes to school, studies, flirts
with a young lady he met in the law firm where he works, joins the communist party, is not as intriguing as the beginning and the ending ...

I was reminded of a few films while watching it ... "Angela's ashes", "Germinal" (in french !) and especially "Affliction" ... If you liked "Affliction" I have a feeling you might like this one as well !

It was the winner for the "Best foreign film" Oscar in 1998 ...

FYI :

Leonard Maltin : 3/4
Roger Ebert : 3.5/4
James Berardinelli : 3/4

I say : 3.5/5   ;-)


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Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:23:03 -0800
From: "Marc C. Desbiens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] The exorcist, part. 4

"The Exorcist" back for the fourth time.

"The devil is planning a comeback in Hollywood.
Filmmakers began casting 2 weeks ago for a prequel
to the Academy Award winning 1973 horror film, The
Exorcist, which chronicled an aging priest's fight
to save a possessed girl."

"In the original film, Max Von Sydow played Father Merrin,
who reveals that he encountered the same demon during his
time as a missionary in Africa. The prequel will follow
the early battle between the young missionary and the
evil spirit, according to Morgan Creek Productions.
It's unknown whethen Von Sydow, 71, will have a role."

Source : Associated Press

<<< Respectfully submitted >>>


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Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:28:54 -0800
From: "Marc C. Desbiens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Austin Powers 3 !!!

<<< For your information >>>

"Myers negotiating Austin Powers 3"

"Mike Myers has bounced back from the Dieter
debacle and is reportedly working on a deal
for Austin Powers 3 that will net him a 25M$
advance and a percentage of the gross profits.
Yeeeah baaaaby yeeeah !"

"Myers has all but sealed a deal with New Line
Cinema to return as Austin "Danger" Powers (and
his arch-nemesis, Dr. Evil) for the shagadelic
new film, reports the industry newspaper Daily
Variety."

"Myers is also in talks to star in a remake of
The pink panther, and is working on a script
for Universal Pictures as part of his settlement
deal for backing out of a movie based on his
Saturday Night Live character : Dieter."


Marc   ;-)

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Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 21:15:44 -0800
From: "Marc C. Desbiens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Overrated directors !

Alright, here is my list of overrated directors ...

The titles after the names are just "reminders" ...

Random order !!

- - Wim Wenders : End of violence, Wings of desire, Million dollar hotel.

- - Kevin Smith : Dogma, Clerks, Chasing Amy, Mallrats

- - Spike Lee : Girl 6, Bamboozled, He got game

- - Woody Allen : Celebrity, Scenes from a mall, Small time crooks

- - Roland Joffe : The mission, The killing fields, The Scarlet letter

- - Luc Besson : (One hit wonder : Nikita)   The fifth element, Joan of Ark, Subway

- - Orson Welles : Touch of evil

- - Harold Becker : (One hit wonder : The onion field)  City hall, Malice.

- - Robert Benton : Kramer vs Kramer, Nadine, Nobody's fool

- - Mike Figgis : (One hit wonder : Leaving LAs Vegas) One night stand, The loss of sexual innocence

- - Nora Ephron : Sleepless in Seattle, You've got mail, Michael

- - John Boorman : (One hit wonder : Deliverance)  Exorcist part. 2, Beyond Rangoon

- - Krzysztop Kieslowski : The decalog, Blue, White, Red

- - Rolland Emerich : Stargate, ID4, Godzilla

- - Constantin Costa-Gravas : Missing, Z, Music box, Mad city

- - Renny Harlin : Cutthroat island, Long kiss goodnight

- - Mike Nichols : Silkwood, Working girl, Heartburn, Wolf, Primary colors

- - Lawrence Kasdan : The big chill, The accidental tourist

- - Alan J. Pakula : The devil's own, The pelican brief, Presumed innocent

- - Sydney Pollack : The firm, Sabrina, Tootsie

- - John Woo : The killer, Hard boiled, A better tomorrow

Marc ;-)

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