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movies-digest        Wednesday, August 23 2000        Volume 02 : Number 286



Re: [MV] 20 replies combined into one blamange.
Re: [MV] 20 replies combined into one blamange.
[MV] FESTEN - ( The Celebration)
[MV] The Simpsons go to Hollywood
[MV] RE: The Simpsons go to Hollywood
Re: [MV] Master and Apprentice (was In Memory of Sir AlecGuiness)
Re: [MV] Shakespeare
[MV] Apes
Re: [MV] Apes
[MV] X-Men and Soldier
[MV] Recommendations?
RE: [MV] X-Men and Soldier
Re: [MV] Recommendations?
RE: [MV] Recommendations?
[MV] THE CELL/BUT I'M A CHEERLEADER
[MV] Straight Story
[MV] Gattaca
[MV] Re: [film] Gattaca
Re: [MV] The Simpsons go to Hollywood
Re: [MV] FESTEN - ( The Celebration)
Re: [MV] Straight Story
Re: [MV] The Simpsons go to Hollywood
RE: [MV] FESTEN - ( The Celebration)
Re: [MV] FESTEN - ( The Celebration)
RE: [MV] FESTEN - ( The Celebration)
RE: [MV] The Simpsons go to Hollywood
Re: [MV] Apes
Re: [MV] Apes
Re: [MV] The Simpsons go to Hollywood
[MV] old movies on tape
[MV] Le SCANDALE  Claude Chabrol
[MV] Which movie for paper??
[MV] RE: Which movie for paper??
Re: [MV] RE: Which movie for paper??
Re: [MV] RE: Which movie for paper??
[MV] RE: Which movie for paper
Re: [MV] Which movie for paper??

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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 23:31:44 -0700
From: Dexter Sy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] 20 replies combined into one blamange.

> <snip>
> I just never have seen the sense in judging anything but a person's taste in
> movies by the movies they like or  don't like.

> My liking of PokΘmon stems from the
> videogame.  I originally thought the anime series was for the PokΘmon crowd
> that was under 6.  I don't know how I got into it so easily, but I thought it
> was surprisingly good.  All I can say is that it's for the fans of the game.
> As for your comments on "TV watchers," I know that movies work on different
> levels.  Believe me on that one.  I know there are differences between the
> kind of entertainment that is Forrest Gump to the kind that is Frasier.  I
> think TV shows that go to film are getting a rather bad rap because people
> assume that they don't know how to successfully translate something to the
> big screen.

Sorry Eric, had to snip 2/3 of your reply so that my reply isn't buried six feet
under yours.

I can't really speak on behalf of PokΘmon because it is my understanding that
even in Japan, the cartoons are created as tie-ins to the video games so the
story is going to sound really convulted, lame and outright cryptic to most
people who aren't into PokΘmon.

end transmission... :)
- --
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 23:36:34 -0700
From: Dexter Sy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] 20 replies combined into one blamange.

>
> We're all snobs for something. I'm a snob against crap. I hate,
> hate, hate crap.

Fair enough.  I deleted most of your post because I thought its best to make it
brief.  I think the positions are well drawn out now.

Very cool discussion.


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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 12:45:37 +0100
From: MARK <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] FESTEN - ( The Celebration)

    Saw "Festen" for the first time on Tuesday night, I absolutely
loved it.  I thought the whole Dogme 95 process created a wonderfully
vibrant vision, and the story was thoroughly original and entertaining.

    Lars Von Triers' "The Idiots" is on on Saturday, can't wait.

    MARK

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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 15:25:07 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [MV] The Simpsons go to Hollywood

In a recent news report from IMDb, it was stated that Matt Groening is
producing a Simpsons movie.  I know we've been having discussions on TV to
movie, so I thought this one would be good to ask about.  So, what's the
first impression on this one?  Excited or skeptical?
- -Eric-

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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 14:19:00 -0600
From: ("Paul D  Richardson") <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] RE: The Simpsons go to Hollywood

> In a recent news report from IMDb, it was stated that Matt Groening is
> producing a Simpsons movie.  I know we've been having discussions on TV to
> movie, so I thought this one would be good to ask about.  So, what's the
> first impression on this one?  Excited or skeptical?

Well, rumors about a "Simpsons" movie have been around for 10 years, so I'm
not expecting to see anything anytime soon.  I will say that any given 22
minute episode of "The Simpsons" is funnier than any given recent 90 minute
comedy.  However, I'm not sure that "The Simpsons" could substain a 90-minute
story.  They've only done one 44 minute story ("Who Shot Mister Burns") in the
entire run of the show.  If a movie ever is released, which I doubt, I'd go
see it...but I'd rather watch the show for free!

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 11:54:23 -0700
From: Blacknight <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Master and Apprentice (was In Memory of Sir AlecGuiness)

Dexter Sy wrote:

> >
> > Used to watch this anime. In English, it is called Samurai X.
>
> I never knew that.  But then again, I prefer to watch Japanese films and
> animation in its native language.
>

I might go into that, of course I want to compare the original and the
translation. I will buy some manga comics and try to read them when I go to
Japan this year. Speaking of anime, my favorite would be the Robotech series
when I was a kid, I had palpitations whenever I missed an episode. Never got
to see it in its entirety and there were the spinoffs and I guess I lost
interest after.

blacknight


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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 11:58:21 -0700
From: Blacknight <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Shakespeare

Dexter Sy wrote:

> That's what I've heard :) My experience with Shakespeare is pretty much only as deep as
> what I was taught in school. Mainly  4 plays....  Romeo and Juliet, Midsummer night's
> Dream, MacBeth, Taming of the Shrew.
>

I taught myself how to read Shakespeare after watching Baz Luhrmann's Romeo and Juliet.
Maybe because I have never seen a real Shakespeare play that is why I appreciate any movie
adaptations of the Bard.

blacknight


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Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 19:45:49 -0400
From: Gene Ehrich <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Apes

We received our new 6 DVD set of the Planet of The Apes series yesterday
and today we watched the first movie on our large screen TV. We were
delighted that the movie was shown is letterbox format. Great copy, great
movie, great science fiction. It makes all kinds of statements about our
current society. We greatly look forward to watching the other four movies
and then the sixth DVD with all of the tours, interviews and out-takes. The
cover of the first DVD gives away the surprise ending of the first film for
anyone who has not seen the movie before.

After watching the film and then a current political show we had an
interesting discussion. We thought it would be fun to see how you would
answer the same question if you like.

If you had to assign one of todays political parties to each of the species
in the movie which party would be assigned to each of the following?

Gorilla =
Orangutang =
Chimpanzee =
Human =



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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 01:53:06 -0400
From: Mel Eperthener <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Apes

At 07.45 PM 20/08/2000 -0400, Gene Ehrich wrote:
> The
>cover of the first DVD gives away the surprise ending of the first film for
>anyone who has not seen the movie before.

Well, if you are referring to what I THINK you are referring to (the
"discovery" that Heston makes at the end).... it was on the video cover,
too (released back in 1997 or 98)... at this point, it may very well no
longer be a spoiler.

Speaking of Spoilers, and the recent comments on how movies such as What
Lies Beneath have their plots ruined by the trailers, I have read at least
two recent op/ed type pieces in the paper that point out what CBS has done
with Survivour is just amazing.  The show has pretty much been done since
the first episode aired, winner was decided MONTHS ago, and try as they
might, no one has been able to conclusively ruin the surprise of who
won.... yet.  (Tho there are rumours, nothing concrete).  In today's
society, would the surprise of The Crying Game remain a surprise today??
How rare is it that a movie like The Sixth Sense can surprise anyone??  --
NB, someone RUINED the damn movie for me by telling the major plot
point!!!!!!)
>

>After watching the film and then a current political show we had an
>interesting discussion. We thought it would be fun to see how you would
>answer the same question if you like.
>
>If you had to assign one of todays political parties to each of the species
>in the movie which party would be assigned to each of the following?

NEVER discuss politics or religion.:-)  Having said that, I will not touch
the first two, except to say that the party you follow are the Orangutangs
(as they tend to be smarter:-) and the opposing party are teh Gorillas,
wanting to effect great changes (throwing their weight around like a 500lb
gorilla - groan!!)

>
>Gorilla =
>Orangutang =
>Chimpanzee =  They throw the faeces around and scream alot.  Yep, must be
the Reform party:-)

>Human =  Hopelessly out of date and left behind by changes - hmm, all I
can think of (that is safe:-) are the Whigs

Regards,

- --Mel


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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 11:19:29 +0100
From: MARK <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] X-Men and Soldier

    X-Men opened here in the U.K. on Friday, and I saw it yesterday
- - it was o.k., not groundbreaking, and I didn't get the feel with it
that I did when I watched the first Batman.  However, that's not to say
I didn't enjoy it, I did, and I will now await the next part of the
franchise to see how the story unfolds.

    The Kurt Russell film "Soldier" was on our digital movie channel
last night, now in my time I have watched some crap, (Wild, Wild West
anyone?), but after 45 minutes I did something that I haven't done in
god knows how long, I turned it off.  It dragged along at a snails pace
and I couldn't see where it was going.  I felt dirty after watching
those 45 minutes.  Kurt Russell's stupid "constipated" look just
compounded things for me.  Truly a waste of my time and of film that
could have been used for printing anything else on.

    My advice - Avoid like a bag lady covered in boils.

    MARK

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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 11:22:17 +0100
From: MARK <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Recommendations?

    Well, after 30 years of my life going by I finally fly out to
the States on Wednesday for 2 weeks swanning around california and then
a week in Maui.  I know I am going to definitely seek out The Hollow Man
whilst I am over there, does anyone have any suggestions on any other
films that haven't opened in the U.K. yet that I can see on my travels.

    MARK

    P.S. Eric - DON'T YOU DARE SUGGEST THE 2ND POKEMON FILM!!!  :-)

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Date: 21 Aug 00 11:21:28 +0100
From: "Source - Richard" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] X-Men and Soldier

I too saw X-Men at the weekend and was relieved to discover that at last
we have another comic book adaptation to stand alongside Batman (first
film) and Superman (one and two).

It is true to its heritage and for once let me inside the pain and
insecurity of the characters. OK, so maybe it concentrated a little too much on
setting up a sequel, but hey - bring it on!

As for Soldier - haven't seen it, don't want to see it, don't care!

MARK wrote:
>
>    X-Men opened here in the U.K. on Friday, and I saw it yesterday
>- it was o.k., not groundbreaking, and I didn't get the feel with it
>that I did when I watched the first Batman.  However, that's not to say
>I didn't enjoy it, I did, and I will now await the next part of the
>franchise to see how the story unfolds.
>
>    The Kurt Russell film "Soldier" was on our digital movie channel
>last night, now in my time I have watched some crap, (Wild, Wild West
>anyone?), but after 45 minutes I did something that I haven't done in
>god knows how long, I turned it off.  It dragged along at a snails pace
>and I couldn't see where it was going.  I felt dirty after watching
>those 45 minutes.  Kurt Russell's stupid "constipated" look just
>compounded things for me.  Truly a waste of my time and of film that
>could have been used for printing anything else on.
>
>    My advice - Avoid like a bag lady covered in boils.
>
>    MARK
>
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 08:35:01 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [MV] Recommendations?

In a message dated 08/21/2000 3:04:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time,=20
[e-mail] writes:

<<  Well, after 30 years of my life going by I finally fly out to
 the States on Wednesday for 2 weeks swanning around california and then
 a week in Maui.  I know I am going to definitely seek out The Hollow Man
 whilst I am over there, does anyone have any suggestions on any other
 films that haven't opened in the U.K. yet that I can see on my travels.
=20
    MARK
=20
    P.S. Eric - DON'T YOU DARE SUGGEST THE 2ND POKEMON FILM!!!  :-) >>

Well, Pok=E9mon is playing and... :-).  OK, seriously, I'd suggest going to=20=
see=20
Space Cowboys.  Not very historically accurate (not that it claims to be),=20
but very fun.  I'm not really sure if that one's opened in the UK or not yet=
,=20
but I assume it isn't.  How long does it usually take?
- -Eric-

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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 14:05:20 +0100
From: MARK <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Recommendations?

Not opened here yet, I think it opens end sep, early oct.

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> To:    [e-mail]
> Subject:    Re: [MV] Recommendations?
>=20
> In a message dated 08/21/2000 3:04:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time,=20
> [e-mail] writes:
>=20
> <<  Well, after 30 years of my life going by I finally fly out to
>  the States on Wednesday for 2 weeks swanning around california and
> then
>  a week in Maui.  I know I am going to definitely seek out The Hollow
> Man
>  whilst I am over there, does anyone have any suggestions on any =
other
>  films that haven't opened in the U.K. yet that I can see on my
> travels.
> =20
>     MARK
> =20
>     P.S. Eric - DON'T YOU DARE SUGGEST THE 2ND POKEMON FILM!!!  :-) =
>>
>=20
> Well, Pok=E9mon is playing and... :-).  OK, seriously, I'd suggest =
going
> to see=20
> Space Cowboys.  Not very historically accurate (not that it claims to
> be),=20
> but very fun.  I'm not really sure if that one's opened in the UK or
> not yet,=20
> but I assume it isn't.  How long does it usually take?
> -Eric-
>=20
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 10:01:00 -0600
From: ("Paul D  Richardson") <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] THE CELL/BUT I'M A CHEERLEADER

I managed to catch two theatrical releases over the weekend.  Here are some
brief thoughts:

THE CELL -- Remember your prom date?  You know, the one that looked pretty or
handsome but didn't have much going on upstairs?  Well, THE CELL is just like
that.  Outstanding visuals, but not much else.  I half expected the booming
voice of the director to say "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!"
 The visuals alone are reason enough for me to recommend the film...they are
that good.  Unfortunately, there aren't enough of them, and the film keeps
returning us to the "real world" where the acting and storyline are only so-so.

As a side note, poor Dylan Baker!  I had a very hard time shaking my image of
him from HAPPINESS, even though he plays a nice guy in this film.  It didn't
help that this film deals a bit with child molestation.

BUT I'M A CHEERLEADER -- This is a highly enjoyable comedy, but it's clearly
not for all tastes.  Not to be confused with the Kirsten Dunst vehicle BRING
IT ON, this film deals with a cheerleader who is sent to camp to cure her
"lesbian tenancies," even though she insists (even to herself) that she is
straight.  Hilarity ensues at the camp when she does in fact find her true
identity, but it's not what her parents had hoped for...

This film is preaching to the choir, and is not going to change any opinions
(in other words, homophobes stay away!)  The characters are two dimensional at
best, and some of the jokes fall flat.  However I still recommend it as a
funny, refreshing comedy.  Special note: seeing this film marks the first time
that I've ever been the only male in a theater.

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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 14:25:52 -0500
From: Diane Christy <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Straight Story

Anyone see "The Straight Story"?  I thought it was wonderful!!
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 15:11:53 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [MV] Gattaca

Gattaca was rented this weekend by mistake and I was pleasantly surprised
that I liked it.
Set in the "not too distant Future" starring Ethan Hawke, Uma Thurman and
Jude Law.
Ethan Hawke is Vincent who is conceived naturally in a world where parents
can choose only the best of their genes. Vincent is born with a weak heart.
His parents choose the other method for his younger brother.
Vincent dreams of a career in space but he is an In-Valid blood type so he
settles for a job as a janitor at the space center Gattaca.
Frustrated, he contacts a man who will help him switch identities with a
Valid blood type, Jerome. Jerome has everything it takes to be in the
Gattaca program but he is paralyzed. The methods these two use to become
each other are facinating and the moments I thought they would surely get
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 14:08:49 -0700
From: "jaybob" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Re: [film] Gattaca

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From: <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>; <[e-mail]>
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 1:11 PM
Subject: [film] Gattaca

   I am gald yu liked this lil gem of a sci fi flic. It sure was   a
pleasant suprise from the usual  special effect movies with skimpy stories.
Igave a  ***1/2  rating,

Thanks
'
Jay Harris





> Gattaca was rented this weekend by mistake and I was pleasantly surprised
> that I liked it.
> Set in the "not too distant Future" starring Ethan Hawke, Uma Thurman and
> Jude Law.
> Ethan Hawke is Vincent who is conceived naturally in a world where parents
> can choose only the best of their genes. Vincent is born with a weak
heart.
> His parents choose the other method for his younger brother.
> Vincent dreams of a career in space but he is an In-Valid blood type so he
> settles for a job as a janitor at the space center Gattaca.
> Frustrated, he contacts a man who will help him switch identities with a
> Valid blood type, Jerome. Jerome has everything it takes to be in the
> Gattaca program but he is paralyzed. The methods these two use to become
> each other are facinating and the moments I thought they would surely get
> caught kept me on edge.
>
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 22:58:53 +0100
From: Garrett Winters <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] The Simpsons go to Hollywood

on 17/8/2000 20:25, [e-mail] at [e-mail] wrote:

> In a recent news report from IMDb, it was stated that Matt Groening is
> producing a Simpsons movie.  I know we've been having discussions on TV to
> movie, so I thought this one would be good to ask about.  So, what's the
> first impression on this one?  Excited or skeptical?
> -Eric-

I'm hoping that this film will set the standard for animated feature films
to come but only if the story is up to the animation ( which I'm sure will
be fantastic on the big screen). I'm hoping for an epic story, a
rollercoaster adventure story like Indiana jones et al. judicious use of
time travel would be a great way to see future versions of the family and if
really clever they could go forward 1000 years and run into Fry and co. from
futurama. Homer should be the star of the film and every character from the
series should be used, maybe even a cameo from all the dear departed (
bleeding gums, dr. monroe, maude flanders).
I don't know how anyone can be skeptical about it as they have had over a
decade to hone their writing skills and now is the perfect time to come out
with it as can be seen by the success of several animated films in the last
few years.
and for those who even doubt it being made a recent interview with groening
made it clear that it is well under way.
Garrett


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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 22:58:52 +0100
From: Garrett Winters <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] FESTEN - ( The Celebration)

on 17/8/2000 12:45, MARK at [e-mail] wrote:

> Saw "Festen" for the first time on Tuesday night, I absolutely
> loved it.  I thought the whole Dogme 95 process created a wonderfully
> vibrant vision, and the story was thoroughly original and entertaining.
>
> Lars Von Triers' "The Idiots" is on on Saturday, can't wait.

I caught a bit of Festen the other night, strange film indeed but watchable.
( mostly to see where it was going) the woman who played the sister was also
in the Idiots as the woman who comes to look at the house. I thought the
whole plot for the Idiots was pathetic, I'm sure I could do better in my
sleep.
Garrett


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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 20:32:04 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [MV] Straight Story

In a message dated 08/21/2000 12:26:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Anyone see "The Straight Story"?  I thought it was wonderful!! >>

Had the chance when flying to Seatle on a choir trip (in flight movie), but,
at that time, found myself more interested in Zelda.  I might see it in the
future.
- -Eric-

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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 20:41:10 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [MV] The Simpsons go to Hollywood

In a message dated 08/21/2000 3:00:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I don't know how anyone can be skeptical about it as they have had over a
 decade to hone their writing skills and now is the perfect time to come out
 with it as can be seen by the success of several animated films in the last
 few years.
 And for those who even doubt it being made a recent interview with Groening
 made it clear that it is well under way.
 Garrett >>

Personally, I'm not too skeptical about it.  Cartoon sitcoms have not made
many movies.  The only other one I can think of is South Park, which was very
funny.  I wouldn't count The Flintstones, since they were made in real life
(pretty bad movies, too).  If The Simpsons sticks to animation (ha, is there
any doubt about that happening?), I think they could succeed very well.  As
for the Futurama tie in, I think they should stick to the Simpsons characters
and just make a separate Futurama movie.
- -Eric-

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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 09:15:30 +0100
From: MARK <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] FESTEN - ( The Celebration)

After enjoying Festen, I missed The Idiots on Saturday, will have to
wait now to see it.

MARK

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    Garrett Winters [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    21 August 2000 22:59
> To:    [e-mail]
> Subject:    Re: [MV] FESTEN - ( The Celebration)
>
> on 17/8/2000 12:45, MARK at [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > Saw "Festen" for the first time on Tuesday night, I absolutely
> > loved it.  I thought the whole Dogme 95 process created a
> wonderfully
> > vibrant vision, and the story was thoroughly original and
> entertaining.
> >
> > Lars Von Triers' "The Idiots" is on on Saturday, can't wait.
>
> I caught a bit of Festen the other night, strange film indeed but
> watchable.
> ( mostly to see where it was going) the woman who played the sister
> was also
> in the Idiots as the woman who comes to look at the house. I thought
> the
> whole plot for the Idiots was pathetic, I'm sure I could do better in
> my
> sleep.
> Garrett
>
>
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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 09:41:28 +0100
From: "geeg23" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] FESTEN - ( The Celebration)

Why don't you just rent the video!

Gerry T.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "MARK" <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: 22 August 2000 09:15
Subject: RE: [MV] FESTEN - ( The Celebration)


> After enjoying Festen, I missed The Idiots on Saturday, will have to
> wait now to see it.
>
> MARK
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Garrett Winters [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> > Sent: 21 August 2000 22:59
> > To: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: [MV] FESTEN - ( The Celebration)
> >
> > on 17/8/2000 12:45, MARK at [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> > > Saw "Festen" for the first time on Tuesday night, I absolutely
> > > loved it.  I thought the whole Dogme 95 process created a
> > wonderfully
> > > vibrant vision, and the story was thoroughly original and
> > entertaining.
> > >
> > > Lars Von Triers' "The Idiots" is on on Saturday, can't wait.
> >
> > I caught a bit of Festen the other night, strange film indeed but
> > watchable.
> > ( mostly to see where it was going) the woman who played the sister
> > was also
> > in the Idiots as the woman who comes to look at the house. I thought
> > the
> > whole plot for the Idiots was pathetic, I'm sure I could do better in
> > my
> > sleep.
> > Garrett
> >
> >
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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 10:21:14 +0100
From: MARK <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] FESTEN - ( The Celebration)

I will, but until I rent it I will HAVE TO WAIT :)

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    geeg23 [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    22 August 2000 09:41
> To:    [e-mail]
> Subject:    Re: [MV] FESTEN - ( The Celebration)
>
> Why don't you just rent the video!
>
> Gerry T.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "MARK" <[e-mail]>
> To: <[e-mail]>
> Sent: 22 August 2000 09:15
> Subject: RE: [MV] FESTEN - ( The Celebration)
>
>
> > After enjoying Festen, I missed The Idiots on Saturday, will have to
> > wait now to see it.
> >
> > MARK
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Garrett Winters [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> > > Sent: 21 August 2000 22:59
> > > To: [e-mail]
> > > Subject: Re: [MV] FESTEN - ( The Celebration)
> > >
> > > on 17/8/2000 12:45, MARK at [e-mail] wrote:
> > >
> > > > Saw "Festen" for the first time on Tuesday night, I absolutely
> > > > loved it.  I thought the whole Dogme 95 process created a
> > > wonderfully
> > > > vibrant vision, and the story was thoroughly original and
> > > entertaining.
> > > >
> > > > Lars Von Triers' "The Idiots" is on on Saturday, can't wait.
> > >
> > > I caught a bit of Festen the other night, strange film indeed but
> > > watchable.
> > > ( mostly to see where it was going) the woman who played the
> sister
> > > was also
> > > in the Idiots as the woman who comes to look at the house. I
> thought
> > > the
> > > whole plot for the Idiots was pathetic, I'm sure I could do better
> in
> > > my
> > > sleep.
> > > Garrett
> > >
> > >
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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 10:40:28 +0100
From: MARK <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] The Simpsons go to Hollywood

The Simpsons doesn't need to even make a nod to Futurama.  The Simpsons
is still consistently funny after 10 years and multiple viewings, so why
it should accede to Futurama is puzzling.  Homer and Co. manage to keep
the programme fresh and funnier than any sitcom there has ever been on
the t.v.  I live for "Homerisms" that man is a god.

Mark Dainty

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> -----Original Message-----
> From:    [e-mail] [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    22 August 2000 01:41
> To:    [e-mail]
> Subject:    Re: [MV] The Simpsons go to Hollywood
>
> In a message dated 08/21/2000 3:00:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> << I don't know how anyone can be skeptical about it as they have had
> over a
>  decade to hone their writing skills and now is the perfect time to
> come out
>  with it as can be seen by the success of several animated films in
> the last
>  few years.
>  And for those who even doubt it being made a recent interview with
> Groening
>  made it clear that it is well under way.
>  Garrett >>
>
> Personally, I'm not too skeptical about it.  Cartoon sitcoms have not
> made
> many movies.  The only other one I can think of is South Park, which
> was very
> funny.  I wouldn't count The Flintstones, since they were made in real
> life
> (pretty bad movies, too).  If The Simpsons sticks to animation (ha, is
> there
> any doubt about that happening?), I think they could succeed very
> well.  As
> for the Futurama tie in, I think they should stick to the Simpsons
> characters
> and just make a separate Futurama movie.
> -Eric-
>
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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 14:31:01 -0700
From: Chris Parry <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Apes

Gene Ehrich wrote:
>
> If you had to assign one of todays political parties to each of the species
> in the movie which party would be assigned to each of the following?

I prefer assigning individuals.

Gorilla = Hillary Clinton
Orangutang = George Bush Jr
Chimpanzee = Bill Clinton
Human = Bill Bradley (and that's why he didn't get the nomination)

OZ

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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:04:24 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [MV] Apes

In a message dated 08/22/2000 1:08:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I prefer assigning individuals.

 Gorilla = Hillary Clinton
 Orangutang = George Bush Jr
 Chimpanzee = Bill Clinton
 Human = Bill Bradley (and that's why he didn't get the nomination) >>

As another person said, please, no politics on this list.

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Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 00:17:57 +0100
From: Garrett Winters <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] The Simpsons go to Hollywood

on 22/8/2000 10:40, MARK at [e-mail] wrote:

> The Simpsons doesn't need to even make a nod to Futurama.  The Simpsons
> is still consistently funny after 10 years and multiple viewings, so why
> it should accede to Futurama is puzzling.  Homer and Co. manage to keep
> the programme fresh and funnier than any sitcom there has ever been on
> the t.v.  I live for "Homerisms" that man is a god.


well I only suggested it as a possiblility which would make a nice segue way
to a futurama movie ( which I would enjoy as well) but not really have them
make an impact on the simpsons movie. imagine the sort of thing where homer
pops in to the middle of one their meetings and just saying "huh" before
vanishing again and you see puzzled looks on the faces of the futurama team
before the professor just continues talking like nothing happened. it might
encompass 15 seconds and not otherwise affect the movie. of course I have no
idea what shape the move will take so it was just an idea I had.
Garrett


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Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:50:50 +0200
From: manuel morrens <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] old movies on tape

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Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:53:28 +0200
From: manuel morrens <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Le SCANDALE  Claude Chabrol

I'm looking for this movie. Does anyone have it, or does anyone know how
to get a copy?
It's a movie from 1966 known in the states as The Champagne murders.

thanks



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Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 21:19:57 +0800
From: "David Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Which movie for paper??

Dear all,

I've recently taken up a course in college/university called
Introduction to Filmic Narratives. As part of the course, we have a term
paper - choose any movie and talk about either (a) cinematography; (b)
mise-en-scene; (c) editing; (d) sound.

Was thinking of this German movie - which is like Sliding Doors, except
that there are four endings... can anybody recall the title?

Any other suggestions would be most appreciated.

Many thanks.

Regards,
David

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|I'm looking for this movie. Does anyone have it, or does anyone know
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|to get a copy?
|It's a movie from 1966 known in the states as The Champagne murders.
|
|thanks
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Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 08:40:00 -0600
From: ("Paul D  Richardson") <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] RE: Which movie for paper??

> Was thinking of this German movie - which is like Sliding Doors, except
> that there are four endings... can anybody recall the title?

The only German movie I can think of that is like SLIDING DOORS is RUN LOLA
RUN.  It doesn't have four endings, however, but three twenty minute segments.
 Hope this helps...

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Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 22:45:09 +0800
From: "David Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] RE: Which movie for paper??

Thanks, Paul! That was what I was looking for...

Any other films that you would recommend? I'm not sure if a
non-Hollywood movie (after all, it's just an 'introductory' course) will
go down well with the tutors...

Sigh..

Many thanks once again, for the quick response.

Regards
David

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|
|> Was thinking of this German movie - which is like Sliding Doors,
except
|> that there are four endings... can anybody recall the title?
|
|The only German movie I can think of that is like SLIDING DOORS is RUN
LOLA
|RUN.  It doesn't have four endings, however, but three twenty minute
segments.
| Hope this helps...
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Date: 23 Aug 00 15:52:54 +0100
From: "Source - Richard" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] RE: Which movie for paper??

How about Pokemon the Movie?

David Lee wrote:
>Thanks, Paul! That was what I was looking for...
>
>Any other films that you would recommend? I'm not sure if a
>non-Hollywood movie (after all, it's just an 'introductory' course) will

>go down well with the tutors...
>
>Sigh..
>
>Many thanks once again, for the quick response.
>
>Regards
>David
>
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>|
>|> Was thinking of this German movie - which is like Sliding Doors,
>except
>|> that there are four endings... can anybody recall the title?
>|
>|The only German movie I can think of that is like SLIDING DOORS is RUN
>LOLA
>|RUN.  It doesn't have four endings, however, but three twenty minute
>segments.
>| Hope this helps...
>|
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Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 08:59:00 -0600
From: ("Paul D  Richardson") <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] RE: Which movie for paper

> Any other films that you would recommend? I'm not sure if a
> non-Hollywood movie (after all, it's just an 'introductory' course) will
> go down well with the tutors...

While I'm not in your class and don't know your tutors, somehow I don't feel
RUN LOLA RUN would be a problem for them.  I'm sure they're going to get a ton
of papers talking about THE MATRIX, and your paper would be a breath of fresh
air.

When I was in film school and had to write papers on films I chose for myself,
I always chose films that I had already seen and enjoyed.  That way, when I
watched the movie to analyse it I wasn't caught up in the story and other
distracting elements.  Rather than recommend any one specific film, I would go
that route.

Paul

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Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:43:06 -0400
From: Mel Eperthener <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Which movie for paper??

At 09.19 PM 23/08/2000 +0800, David Lee wrote:
>I've recently taken up a course in college/university called
>Introduction to Filmic Narratives. As part of the course, we have a term
>paper - choose any movie and talk about either (a) cinematography; (b)
>mise-en-scene; (c) editing; (d) sound.
>
>Was thinking of this German movie - which is like Sliding Doors, except
>that there are four endings... can anybody recall the title?
>

That was Run Lola Run (Lola Rennt was the original German title) - I am
sure that you have gotten a tonne of replies about that, tho.

>Any other suggestions would be most appreciated.
>

Funny you should ask.  I have a friend that just graduated from SDSU film
school (he loved that film), as well as a friend who had to do this exact
same paper last semister at her University.  (Against our protests, she
went with Blair Witch Project).

If you are looking for a powerful movie, that will almost write the paper
for you, might I suggest one of the classics??  Casablanca and Vertigo
(amongst many others) highlight all of these facets.

Really, there are simply so many movies to choose from, it is hard to tell
which to use.  My gut feeling is if you pick a movie the prof hasn't seen
done to death, it could be good for your grade.

Regards,

- --Mel


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