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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 21:47:50 -0700
From: Chris Parry <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Brains vs. Brawn

Dexter Sy wrote:
>
> I thought Armageddon raised the level of watching our civilization
> disintigrated to a whole new level.

Great. Slap it in an Imax theatre and save the rest of us the
embarassment of that awful 'story' filler.

> Martin Laurence isn't a big star.  The real upset this year is how his movie
> outperformed the Jim Carrey's comedy.

Let me fill you in... Jim Carrey talking out of his ass is
considered funny by the morons. Jim Carrey telling a story that
makes people think isn't. So what does MArtin Lawrence do with BMH?
Fat jokes. Fart jokes. The result? Big box office.

Yeah, the people are geniuses.

> If that offends you, if black comedy offends you then its your problem, not mine.

No problem with black comedy at all. Big problem with garbage.

> I thought the laughs in Shanghai noon was tamed.  It was funny more on a slapstick
> level. Its more physical comedy than anything.   I was laughed more while watching
> Big Momma's house than I did Shanghai Noon and the former is the better comedy.

Dude, give me one joke from Big Momma's House that was what you'd
call "better comedy". Perhaps the Shakespearian line "is that
another flashlight?" Perhaps Lawrence being stuck in the shower
while a fat woman does a noisy poop? Maybe Paul Giamatti being
kicked in the nuts? Rushmore is comedy. Bottle Rocket was genius
comedy. Owen Wilson wrote both, and contributed comedy to Shanghai
Noon on screen and off. If you're seriously saying a noisy fart
beats Owen Wilson, I think my point is proved.

> > To me, an "it was alright" is a fail. If a
> > filmmaker can't make something original, or rework an original idea
> > so it's better, then they shouldn't make the damn film in the first
> > place.
>
> That's an awfully high expectation.  This is where I think we part.  To me, films
> have to entertain above all else because people go to see movies as an escape.
> And if the movie happens to provoke more than just entertainment, then its a real
> credit to the men and women behind it.

I guess we do part here, because I believe that even escapist
entertainment should have a script behind it, or not be made until a
script is ready. The script is the story, man. It's why you're
there. It's essential, yet it's being phased out and replaced with
ooh aah effects. "The story was dumb, but it took wiping out
civilisation to a whole new level"... to me, that's a fail. It's an
Imax movie. "Come look a the pretty colours..."

> And what entertains people varies.  I
> can't stand westerns, I think they are stupid.  I can't stand the Older men finds
> younger women chick-flicks out in the market.  That is my personal bias, but I am
> sure there are people out there who will defend these genres for what it is worth
> to them, and I respect that. And so should you.

Can't. Won't. What other people like is of no interest to me. People
like to watch Lacrosse, do I care? No, but I would if suddenly I
couldn't get a baseball game on TV for all the damn lacrosse that
was on. And when I tell friends to go see something awesome but
small as Ghost Dog and they can't because all the local screens are
showing Pokemon or Double Jeopardy or The Mummy, I think it's
criminal.

> If someone tells me that they look down on people based on the movies they watch,
> then I shall walk out of this room in a mad rage.

Don't let the door hit ya...

> What insults me above all else are people, intellectuals, who walk around with
> this utter desdain for popular entertainment.

Why do you assume that people who want more than Brendan Fraser
swinging into a tree are intellectuals? Enemy Of The State was a
great movie, great story, great entertainment. What sets that apart
from Wild Wild West? Intellect. Doesn't mean it takes an
intellectual to enjoy Enemy Of The State. Just means it takes an
idiot to enjoy Wild Wild West.

> Sometimes, I see why the Bolshevik revolutionaries disliked intellectuals. They
> are the enemy of the people indeed.

Don't fear the thinkers. We only seek to help you.

OZ

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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 08:25:50 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [MV] (movies that you) Grew up with....

In a message dated 08/12/2000 9:36:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Speaking of movies you grew up with, what are some other people's picks? >>

One movie I watched repeatedly at age 4, believe it or not, was National
Lampoon's European Vacation.  I hardly got any of the jokes, but, at that
age, I watched mainly for the slapstick.  Following my love of slapstick
brought me to movies like Home Alone 1 and 2 and National Lampoon's Christmas
Vacation (still my favorite of the series).  I also grew up during some of
the better Disney movies.  I remember seeing Beauty and the Beast in theaters
at 10.  I saw Aladdin the year after, but never saw The Lion King.  Well, I
guess that's about all I can think of now.
- -Eric-

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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 08:41:21 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [MV] Brains vs. Brawn

In a message dated 08/13/2000 4:24:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< By all means, enjoy awful, unoriginal, marketing driven, celeb
 heavy, studio films. Enjoy them blissfully.  But don't complain next
 time a really good film doesn't actually make it to your area. It's
 your fault.

 OZ >>

Did I say that I go to every movie that comes out?  No.  I go to movies that
I think might interest me.  I think that's what others do as well.  Did it
ever occur to you that some people just may not have the exact same tastes as
the critics.  Let's see, the critics are paid to give their opinions of
movies, so it automatically makes them the all mighty overlords of knowing
what is good or bad, right?  By no means.  If I agreed with every review
Roger Ebert gives a movie, then I could assess that we have similar tastes,
and I would pay more attention to his reviews based on deciding whether or
not to go.  And even if people pile in to the theaters to see a movie, if
they truly like it, I don't see a problem with it.  I do, however, see a
problem with people that hate something so much that they can't except that
there are people out there that actually like it.
- -Eric-

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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 10:11:58 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [MV] Brains vs. Brawn

In a message dated 08/13/2000 4:37:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,=20
[e-mail] writes:

> Can't. Won't. What other people like is of no interest to me. People
>  like to watch Lacrosse, do I care? No, but I would if suddenly I
>  couldn't get a baseball game on TV for all the damn lacrosse that
>  was on. And when I tell friends to go see something awesome but
>  small as Ghost Dog and they can't because all the local screens are
>  showing Pokemon or Double Jeopardy or The Mummy, I think it's
>  criminal.
>  =20

What interests people is their own business.  Now you sound like you're=20
telling people what they should like.  As I said, let them decide for=20
themselves what's good and what's not.  And, for the record, the English=20
version of Pok=E9mon: The First Movie is a horrible travesty to the original=
. =20
However, you've probably never seen it (the Japanese version), so I don't=20
think you have any right to look down on me for liking it.

> =20
>  Why do you assume that people who want more than Brendan Fraser
>  swinging into a tree are intellectuals? Enemy Of The State was a
>  great movie, great story, great entertainment. What sets that apart
>  from Wild Wild West? Intellect. Doesn't mean it takes an
>  intellectual to enjoy Enemy Of The State. Just means it takes an
>  idiot to enjoy Wild Wild West.
> =20

I've never seen Wild Wild West, so I can't comment on that.  However, I can=20
relate it to another movie.  Remember Pauly Shore's piece of crap movie=20
Biodome?  I thought it was terrible, dumb, and a waste of time.  However, I=20
know of some people at my school who liked it.  Why?  I don't know, but they=
=20
happened to find it funny.  Not idiots.  In fact, there are some I consider=20
to be pretty d*mn intelligent.  I don't understand their point of view, but=20=
I=20
can at least accept it.  Like I said, there is no such thing as a movie so=20
bad that everyone hates it or a movie so good everyone likes it.  Some peopl=
e=20
love House Arrest.  Some people hate Forrest Gump.  Apparently they don't=20
share my taste in movies, but I don't think they're morons because they=20
happen to have different opinions than mine.

> =20
>  Don't fear the thinkers. We only seek to help you.
>=20

If you're a "thinker," you don't appear to be helping anyone.
- -Eric-

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 00:46:22 -0700
From: Chris Parry <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Brains vs. Brawn

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> >  Don't fear the thinkers. We only seek to help you.
>
> If you're a "thinker," you don't appear to be helping anyone.

One can only help those who seek to help themselves.

But you should know that, honor role boy, you're smarter n'heck.

OZ

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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 12:59:26 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [MV] Brains vs. Brawn

In a message dated 08/13/2000 7:39:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time,=20
[e-mail] writes:

<< One can only help those who seek to help themselves.
=20
 But you should know that, honor role boy, you're smarter n'heck.
=20
 OZ >>

Never claimed to be "smarter 'n heck," but I did say I'm not a retard.  You=20
apparently think I am since I like Pok=E9mon, but I'm older than 13.  As for=
=20
help... well, I don't see anyone on this list that needs help.  Drug addicts=
=20
and the homeless need help.  People that see movies need to have a good time=
.=20
 If their taste is rather detestable, I suppose you think they need help, eh=
?=20
 In that case, why don't you get help?  Let people like what they want to=20
like and don't call them "retarded."
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 16:07:26 -0700
From: Dexter Sy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Brains vs. Brawn

Chris,
I'm better than you because I don't think I'm better than anyone.
I'm better than you because I don't look down on people.  Yes,  there are movies I don't
like. I don't like the Mummy, but what I don't like is my business. I'm not going to
tell everybody I'm better than someone else just to get an ego trip.

Your full of yourself.

Dexter

Chris Parry wrote:

> Dexter Sy wrote:
> >
> > I thought Armageddon raised the level of watching our civilization
> > disintigrated to a whole new level.
>
> Great. Slap it in an Imax theatre and save the rest of us the
> embarassment of that awful 'story' filler.
>
> > Martin Laurence isn't a big star.  The real upset this year is how his movie
> > outperformed the Jim Carrey's comedy.
>
> Let me fill you in... Jim Carrey talking out of his ass is
> considered funny by the morons. Jim Carrey telling a story that
> makes people think isn't. So what does MArtin Lawrence do with BMH?
> Fat jokes. Fart jokes. The result? Big box office.
>
> Yeah, the people are geniuses.
>
> > If that offends you, if black comedy offends you then its your problem, not mine.
>
> No problem with black comedy at all. Big problem with garbage.
>
> > I thought the laughs in Shanghai noon was tamed.  It was funny more on a slapstick
> > level. Its more physical comedy than anything.   I was laughed more while watching
> > Big Momma's house than I did Shanghai Noon and the former is the better comedy.
>
> Dude, give me one joke from Big Momma's House that was what you'd
> call "better comedy". Perhaps the Shakespearian line "is that
> another flashlight?" Perhaps Lawrence being stuck in the shower
> while a fat woman does a noisy poop? Maybe Paul Giamatti being
> kicked in the nuts? Rushmore is comedy. Bottle Rocket was genius
> comedy. Owen Wilson wrote both, and contributed comedy to Shanghai
> Noon on screen and off. If you're seriously saying a noisy fart
> beats Owen Wilson, I think my point is proved.
>
> > > To me, an "it was alright" is a fail. If a
> > > filmmaker can't make something original, or rework an original idea
> > > so it's better, then they shouldn't make the damn film in the first
> > > place.
> >
> > That's an awfully high expectation.  This is where I think we part.  To me, films
> > have to entertain above all else because people go to see movies as an escape.
> > And if the movie happens to provoke more than just entertainment, then its a real
> > credit to the men and women behind it.
>
> I guess we do part here, because I believe that even escapist
> entertainment should have a script behind it, or not be made until a
> script is ready. The script is the story, man. It's why you're
> there. It's essential, yet it's being phased out and replaced with
> ooh aah effects. "The story was dumb, but it took wiping out
> civilisation to a whole new level"... to me, that's a fail. It's an
> Imax movie. "Come look a the pretty colours..."
>
> > And what entertains people varies.  I
> > can't stand westerns, I think they are stupid.  I can't stand the Older men finds
> > younger women chick-flicks out in the market.  That is my personal bias, but I am
> > sure there are people out there who will defend these genres for what it is worth
> > to them, and I respect that. And so should you.
>
> Can't. Won't. What other people like is of no interest to me. People
> like to watch Lacrosse, do I care? No, but I would if suddenly I
> couldn't get a baseball game on TV for all the damn lacrosse that
> was on. And when I tell friends to go see something awesome but
> small as Ghost Dog and they can't because all the local screens are
> showing Pokemon or Double Jeopardy or The Mummy, I think it's
> criminal.
>
> > If someone tells me that they look down on people based on the movies they watch,
> > then I shall walk out of this room in a mad rage.
>
> Don't let the door hit ya...
>
> > What insults me above all else are people, intellectuals, who walk around with
> > this utter desdain for popular entertainment.
>
> Why do you assume that people who want more than Brendan Fraser
> swinging into a tree are intellectuals? Enemy Of The State was a
> great movie, great story, great entertainment. What sets that apart
> from Wild Wild West? Intellect. Doesn't mean it takes an
> intellectual to enjoy Enemy Of The State. Just means it takes an
> idiot to enjoy Wild Wild West.
>
> > Sometimes, I see why the Bolshevik revolutionaries disliked intellectuals. They
> > are the enemy of the people indeed.
>
> Don't fear the thinkers. We only seek to help you.
>
> OZ
>
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> http://www.mymovies.com.au
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>
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 16:11:01 -0700
From: Dexter Sy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Brains vs. Brawn

Eric, Its really pointless arguing with this Chris dude :)

If he choose to act like this, he'll get what he dishes out in kind when the time
comes.

Dexter

[e-mail] wrote:

> In a message dated 08/13/2000 4:37:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> > Can't. Won't. What other people like is of no interest to me. People
> >  like to watch Lacrosse, do I care? No, but I would if suddenly I
> >  couldn't get a baseball game on TV for all the damn lacrosse that
> >  was on. And when I tell friends to go see something awesome but
> >  small as Ghost Dog and they can't because all the local screens are
> >  showing Pokemon or Double Jeopardy or The Mummy, I think it's
> >  criminal.
> >
>
> What interests people is their own business.  Now you sound like you're
> telling people what they should like.  As I said, let them decide for
> themselves what's good and what's not.  And, for the record, the English
> version of PokΘmon: The First Movie is a horrible travesty to the original.
> However, you've probably never seen it (the Japanese version), so I don't
> think you have any right to look down on me for liking it.
>
> >
> >  Why do you assume that people who want more than Brendan Fraser
> >  swinging into a tree are intellectuals? Enemy Of The State was a
> >  great movie, great story, great entertainment. What sets that apart
> >  from Wild Wild West? Intellect. Doesn't mean it takes an
> >  intellectual to enjoy Enemy Of The State. Just means it takes an
> >  idiot to enjoy Wild Wild West.
> >
>
> I've never seen Wild Wild West, so I can't comment on that.  However, I can
> relate it to another movie.  Remember Pauly Shore's piece of crap movie
> Biodome?  I thought it was terrible, dumb, and a waste of time.  However, I
> know of some people at my school who liked it.  Why?  I don't know, but they
> happened to find it funny.  Not idiots.  In fact, there are some I consider
> to be pretty d*mn intelligent.  I don't understand their point of view, but I
> can at least accept it.  Like I said, there is no such thing as a movie so
> bad that everyone hates it or a movie so good everyone likes it.  Some people
> love House Arrest.  Some people hate Forrest Gump.  Apparently they don't
> share my taste in movies, but I don't think they're morons because they
> happen to have different opinions than mine.
>
> >
> >  Don't fear the thinkers. We only seek to help you.
> >
>
> If you're a "thinker," you don't appear to be helping anyone.
> -Eric-
>
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 02:07:06 GMT
From: "Danielle Conkle" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] (movies that you) Grew up with....

>Goonies
>Terminator 2
>Back To The Future Trilogy
>Home Alone
>Star Wars Trilogy (video and tv)


ahh, all good!  I could add Major League, Karate Kid to my list ;)

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 00:29:27 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [MV] (movies that you) Grew up with....

In a message dated 08/13/2000 7:07:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< >Goonies
 >Terminator 2
 >Back To The Future Trilogy
 >Home Alone
 >Star Wars Trilogy (video and tv)


 ahh, all good!  I could add Major League, Karate Kid to my list ;) >>

I probably should've mentioned Star Wars.  I think I was about 11 or 12 when
I saw them.  I don't remember many times when I had more fun watching a
movie.  Also, RotJ introduced me to my favorite movie monster.  Namely, the
Sarlac.  I need to know, was anyone else extremely disappointed with its
appearance in the special edition?  I know I was.
- -Eric-

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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 22:16:47 -0700
From: Dexter Sy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] (movies that you) Grew up with....

> I probably should've mentioned Star Wars.  I think I was about 11 or 12 when
> I saw them.  I don't remember many times when I had more fun watching a
> movie.  Also, RotJ introduced me to my favorite movie monster.  Namely, the
> Sarlac.  I need to know, was anyone else extremely disappointed with its
> appearance in the special edition?  I know I was.
> -Eric-

Lucas got what he was looking for with the Sarlaac pit in the Special Edition.
I first saw Return of the Jedi about the same age you did, and I remember that
little voice in my head saying "that mouth ain't right" when the Sarlaac made
the burping noise and you could see the walls of the mouth wiggle like rubber or
a peice of cloth.  The tentacles also looked really inanimate to me.  It didn't
bother me, sure, as the movie itself was gorgeous to take in for the first time.
To me, the special Edition version of the Sarlaac was a good fix.

I remember watching Jedi for the first time.  It was hyped up by the TV station
and they had spots on the TV airing like weeks in advance so i was kinda
pumped.  The only Star Wars movie I've seen before Jedi was Empire, so I had a
good grasp on the characters and all.  I enjoyed Jedi till about 13 or 14, then
I realized Empire Strikes Back was the superior movie.
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:36:42 -0700
From: Chris Parry <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Brains vs. Brawn

Dexter Sy wrote:
>
> I'm better than you because I don't think I'm better than anyone.

You're not better than anyone? Nobody at all? Man, you could at
least aspire to be better than Jeffrey Dahmer or George Bush Jr.
Reach for the stars, champ!

> I'm better than you because I don't look down on people.

Nobody? Nobody at all? Crack dealers are on your level? Dude, a
little confidence. If you don't love yourself, who's gonna love you?

> Yes,  there are movies I don't
> like. I don't like the Mummy, but what I don't like is my business. I'm not going to
> tell everybody I'm better than someone else just to get an ego trip.

Clearly you haven't read my excellent reasoning, previously posted.
I object to people who go in great numbers to see ordinary movies
out of nothing more than apathy or the cult of celebrity. It means
good movies, like Boys Don't Cry for example, don't make it out to
the people who want to see them. And it breeds more awful movies. Do
you think the studios are thinking to themselves right now "hey, we
ought to make better movies with good stories and good actors,
because Boys Don't Cry won an Oscar" or are they thinking "Nobody
saw Boys Don't Cry but, gee, Martin Lawrence seems able to bring in
a $20m opening weekend no matter what he's in. Better get him into
more movies."

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

> Your full of yourself.

Absolutely. I rule.

OZ

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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 22:36:12 -0700
From: Dexter Sy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Brains vs. Brawn

>
> Clearly you haven't read my excellent reasoning, previously posted.
> I object to people who go in great numbers to see ordinary movies
> out of nothing more than apathy or the cult of celebrity. It means
> good movies, like Boys Don't Cry for example, don't make it out to
> the people who want to see them. And it breeds more awful movies. Do
> you think the studios are thinking to themselves right now "hey, we
> ought to make better movies with good stories and good actors,
> because Boys Don't Cry won an Oscar" or are they thinking "Nobody
> saw Boys Don't Cry but, gee, Martin Lawrence seems able to bring in
> a $20m opening weekend no matter what he's in. Better get him into
> more movies."

Your point of view.  But you leave no room for disagreement :)




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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 09:49:12 +0100
From: MARK <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] (movies that you) Grew up with....

Well, I was born in 1970, so my list goes something like

Ferris Buellers Day Off
About Last Night - (I will defend it to the death)
Goonies
Ghostbusters
Superman
First Blood
An American Werewolf in London
Beverly Hills Cop



These are just a few, I could go on.

MARK

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> In a message dated 08/13/2000 7:07:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> << >Goonies
>  >Terminator 2
>  >Back To The Future Trilogy
>  >Home Alone
>  >Star Wars Trilogy (video and tv)
>
>
>  ahh, all good!  I could add Major League, Karate Kid to my list ;) >>
>
> I probably should've mentioned Star Wars.  I think I was about 11 or
> 12 when
> I saw them.  I don't remember many times when I had more fun watching
> a
> movie.  Also, RotJ introduced me to my favorite movie monster.
> Namely, the
> Sarlac.  I need to know, was anyone else extremely disappointed with
> its
> appearance in the special edition?  I know I was.
> -Eric-
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Date: 14 Aug 00 10:19:38 +0100
From: "Source - Richard" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] (movies that you) Grew up with....

I am of similar age and as well as all the movies on your list i would
also add:

Sure Thing (and most other John Cusack teen movies)
Back to the Future
Breakfast Club
Rocky 4
Golden Child (don't hurt me!)

etc.

MARK wrote:
>Well, I was born in 1970, so my list goes something like
>
>Ferris Buellers Day Off
>About Last Night - (I will defend it to the death)
>Goonies
>Ghostbusters
>Superman
>First Blood
>An American Werewolf in London
>Beverly Hills Cop
>
>
>
>These are just a few, I could go on.
>
>MARK
>
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>>
>> In a message dated 08/13/2000 7:07:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>> [e-mail] writes:
>>
>> << >Goonies
>>  >Terminator 2
>>  >Back To The Future Trilogy
>>  >Home Alone
>>  >Star Wars Trilogy (video and tv)
>>
>>
>>  ahh, all good!  I could add Major League, Karate Kid to my list ;) >>
>>
>> I probably should've mentioned Star Wars.  I think I was about 11 or
>> 12 when
>> I saw them.  I don't remember many times when I had more fun watching
>> a
>> movie.  Also, RotJ introduced me to my favorite movie monster.
>> Namely, the
>> Sarlac.  I need to know, was anyone else extremely disappointed with
>> its
>> appearance in the special edition?  I know I was.
>> -Eric-
>>
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 10:47:36 +0100
From: MARK <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] (movies that you) Grew up with....

Yeah, but you also liked:

Soul Man
An American Tail
Beatstreet
Breakdance I & II
The Last Dragon
Footloose

So There!!

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    Source - Richard [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    14 August 2000 10:20
> To:    movies
> Subject:    RE: [MV] (movies that you) Grew up with....
>
> I am of similar age and as well as all the movies on your list i would
> also add:
>
> Sure Thing (and most other John Cusack teen movies)
> Back to the Future
> Breakfast Club
> Rocky 4
> Golden Child (don't hurt me!)
>
> etc.
>
> MARK wrote:
> >Well, I was born in 1970, so my list goes something like
> >
> >Ferris Buellers Day Off
> >About Last Night - (I will defend it to the death)
> >Goonies
> >Ghostbusters
> >Superman
> >First Blood
> >An American Werewolf in London
> >Beverly Hills Cop
> >
> >
> >
> >These are just a few, I could go on.
> >
> >MARK
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
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> >> Sent:    14 August 2000 05:29
> >> To:    [e-mail]
> >> Subject:    Re: [MV] (movies that you) Grew up with....
> >>
> >> In a message dated 08/13/2000 7:07:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> >> [e-mail] writes:
> >>
> >> << >Goonies
> >>  >Terminator 2
> >>  >Back To The Future Trilogy
> >>  >Home Alone
> >>  >Star Wars Trilogy (video and tv)
> >>
> >>
> >>  ahh, all good!  I could add Major League, Karate Kid to my list ;)
> >>
> >>
> >> I probably should've mentioned Star Wars.  I think I was about 11
> or
> >> 12 when
> >> I saw them.  I don't remember many times when I had more fun
> watching
> >> a
> >> movie.  Also, RotJ introduced me to my favorite movie monster.
> >> Namely, the
> >> Sarlac.  I need to know, was anyone else extremely disappointed
> with
> >> its
> >> appearance in the special edition?  I know I was.
> >> -Eric-
> >>
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Date: 14 Aug 00 10:27:57 +0100
From: "Source - Richard" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] (movies that you) Grew up with....

You're darn reet.

MARK wrote:
>Yeah, but you also liked:
>
>Soul Man
>An American Tail
>Beatstreet
>Breakdance I & II
>The Last Dragon
>Footloose
>
>So There!!
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:    Source - Richard [SMTP:[e-mail]]
>> Sent:    14 August 2000 10:20
>> To:    movies
>> Subject:    RE: [MV] (movies that you) Grew up with....
>>
>> I am of similar age and as well as all the movies on your list i would
>> also add:
>>
>> Sure Thing (and most other John Cusack teen movies)
>> Back to the Future
>> Breakfast Club
>> Rocky 4
>> Golden Child (don't hurt me!)
>>
>> etc.
>>
>> MARK wrote:
>> >Well, I was born in 1970, so my list goes something like
>> >
>> >Ferris Buellers Day Off
>> >About Last Night - (I will defend it to the death)
>> >Goonies
>> >Ghostbusters
>> >Superman
>> >First Blood
>> >An American Werewolf in London
>> >Beverly Hills Cop
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >These are just a few, I could go on.
>> >
>> >MARK
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From:    [e-mail] [SMTP:[e-mail]]
>> >> Sent:    14 August 2000 05:29
>> >> To:    [e-mail]
>> >> Subject:    Re: [MV] (movies that you) Grew up with....
>> >>
>> >> In a message dated 08/13/2000 7:07:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>> >> [e-mail] writes:
>> >>
>> >> << >Goonies
>> >>  >Terminator 2
>> >>  >Back To The Future Trilogy
>> >>  >Home Alone
>> >>  >Star Wars Trilogy (video and tv)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  ahh, all good!  I could add Major League, Karate Kid to my list ;)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I probably should've mentioned Star Wars.  I think I was about 11
>> or
>> >> 12 when
>> >> I saw them.  I don't remember many times when I had more fun
>> watching
>> >> a
>> >> movie.  Also, RotJ introduced me to my favorite movie monster.
>> >> Namely, the
>> >> Sarlac.  I need to know, was anyone else extremely disappointed
>> with
>> >> its
>> >> appearance in the special edition?  I know I was.
>> >> -Eric-
>> >>
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 09:09:25 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [MV] (movies that you) Grew up with....

In a message dated 08/13/2000 10:08:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I remember watching Jedi for the first time.  It was hyped up by the TV
station
 and they had spots on the TV airing like weeks in advance so i was kinda
 pumped.  The only Star Wars movie I've seen before Jedi was Empire, so I had
a
 good grasp on the characters and all.  I enjoyed Jedi till about 13 or 14,
then
 I realized Empire Strikes Back was the superior movie. >>

Same here.  I saw A New Hope when my Star Wars crazy uncle gave it to me for
my birthday.  A little later, I saw RotJ on TV (the last half, actually).
Later, my uncle bought me the last two for Christmas, and I decided the last
was the best.  After a while, I realized Empire was better.  However, the
Sarlaac was still a favorite of mine.  On that one, I did like the original
better.  Why?  Well, it's more mysterious.  Think about it, aside from the
mouth, we have no idea how the thing looks (unless you base it on the Super
Star Wars game for SNES).  What we do see is this gaping mouth, and we all
know what goes on inside it, right?  The more disgusting it looked, the
better.  So, I liked the original more.
- -Eric-

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 09:10:47 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [MV] (movies that you) Grew up with....

In a message dated 08/13/2000 10:08:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I remember watching Jedi for the first time.  It was hyped up by the TV
station
 and they had spots on the TV airing like weeks in advance so i was kinda
 pumped.  The only Star Wars movie I've seen before Jedi was Empire, so I had
a
 good grasp on the characters and all.  I enjoyed Jedi till about 13 or 14,
then
 I realized Empire Strikes Back was the superior movie. >>

Same here.  I saw A New Hope when my Star Wars crazy uncle gave it to me for
my birthday.  A little later, I saw RotJ on TV (the last half, actually).
Later, my uncle bought me the last two for Christmas, and I decided the last
was the best.  After a while, I realized Empire was better.  However, the
Sarlaac was still a favorite of mine.  On that one, I did like the original
better.  Why?  Well, it's more mysterious.  Think about it, aside from the
mouth, we have no idea how the thing looks (unless you base it on the Super
Star Wars game for SNES).  What we do see is this gaping mouth, and we all
know what goes on inside it, right?  The more disgusting it looked, the
better.  So, I liked the original more.
- -Eric-

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 09:20:07 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [MV] Brains vs. Brawn

In a message dated 08/13/2000 10:26:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Clearly you haven't read my excellent reasoning, previously posted.
 I object to people who go in great numbers to see ordinary movies
 out of nothing more than apathy or the cult of celebrity. It means
 good movies, like Boys Don't Cry for example, don't make it out to
 the people who want to see them. And it breeds more awful movies. Do
 you think the studios are thinking to themselves right now "hey, we
 ought to make better movies with good stories and good actors,
 because Boys Don't Cry won an Oscar" or are they thinking "Nobody
 saw Boys Don't Cry but, gee, Martin Lawrence seems able to bring in
 a $20m opening weekend no matter what he's in. Better get him into
 more movies." >>

As much as you can't stand it, movies with good advertising are going to make
money.  Plain and simple.  I respect the fact that your taste in movies is
based on high expectations, and I understand that you must be very annoyed.
All I'm saying is that you shouldn't look down on people for going to these
movies.  You may think they're unoriginal, and they may very well be, but if
those people that went were entertained, then I guess they got what they
wanted.  It all comes down to taste.  Some people have different tastes, but
don't look down on them for it.  If the people want to see movies like M:I2
and you want to see Boys Don't Cry, very well then.  Whatever it is that
suits your taste.
- -Eric-

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 09:32:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: Nathan Lemrick <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] (movies that you) Grew up with....

The movies I grew up with:

The Goonies
Ghostbusters
Sound of Music
The Man from Snowy River
All the James Bond movies
Also all of the Star Trek movies

These are all I can think of at this moment.

Nathan

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Date: 14 Aug 00 17:53:24 +0100
From: "Source - Richard" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] (movies that you) Grew up with....

The Man from Bloody Snowy River!!

Nathan Lemrick wrote:
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>
>The Goonies
>Ghostbusters
>Sound of Music
>The Man from Snowy River
>All the James Bond movies
>Also all of the Star Trek movies
>
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