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movies-digest        Wednesday, August 25 1999        Volume 02 : Number 223



Re: [MV]Deep Blue Sea
RE: [MV] Deep Blue Sea
Re: [MV] The Blair Witch - YIPES! (spoils)
RE: [MV] The Blair Witch - YIPES! (spoils)
Re: [MV]Deep Blue Sea
RE: [MV] Deep Blue Sea
RE: [MV] Deep Blue Sea
RE: [MV] Deep Blue Sea
Re: [MV]Deep Blue Sea
[MV] My List
RE: [MV] Deep Blue Sea
RE: [MV] Deep Blue Sea
Re: [MV]Deep Blue Sea
RE: [MV] Deep Blue Sea
[MV] Re: Blowing movie secrets  (with EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, GONE WITH THE WIND & SIXTH SENSE spoilers - minor)
[MV] Re: Spoilers
RE: [MV] Re: Blowing movie secrets  (with EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, GONE WITH THE WIND & SIXTH SENSE spoilers - minor)
RE: [MV] Films and Movies
RE: [MV] Deep Blue Sea
RE: [MV] Deep Blue Sea
Re: [MV]Deep Blue Sea...discussing the previous spoiler...
Re: [MV] The Blair Witch - YIPES! (spoils)
RE: [MV] Lists and movies
Re: [MV]Deep Blue Sea
[MV] [Mv]:The 13th Warrior
Re: [MV] Sixth Sense did u know!
Re: [MV] Sixth Sense did u know!
Re: [MV] Sixth Sense did u know!
RE: [MV] [Mv]:The 13th Warrior
RE: [MV] OFF TOPIC: Pop Quiz (SPOILER)

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:36:25 -0700
From: Jackie Martin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV]Deep Blue Sea

The problem with the spoiler is:


S
P
O
I
L
E
R



That you told everyone that the person whose name is being used to basically sell
the movie, will die a horrible death in the film. I was pissed when I saw it. I
was expecting Jules!!! And if I had read your spoiler, I would have been just as
pissed as they were.
Jackie
"Look, it's like they say, if you're not a rebel by the age of 20, you got no
heart. But if you haven't turned establishment by 30, you got no brains."
                            Buddy Ackerman - Swimming With Sharks


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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:39:08 -0700
From: "Jim Sweeney" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Deep Blue Sea

> I find it hard to believe that you didn't see "Titanic"
> because you knew the
> ship was gonna sink.Come on,
> grow up!!!

In the spirit of your ridiculous Titanic comparison, I must say that your
premise (that fictional plot points are comparible to the outcome of a
historical drama) doesn't hold water.

BTW, how old are *you*?

Jim


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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:57:26 -0700
From: tro s lee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] The Blair Witch - YIPES! (spoils)

BWP is being sued for using The Leeds Devils (screenplay) and not paying
the author for the script.

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:22:25 -0700
From: "Jim Sweeney" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] The Blair Witch - YIPES! (spoils)

> BWP is being sued for using The Leeds Devils (screenplay) and
> not paying
> the author for the script.

Where did you hear about this?

Jim


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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:24:00 -0700
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Subject: Re: [MV]Deep Blue Sea

Ok Jackie,point well taken.Like I said,"I am sorry,"and it won't happen
again.I'm just sayin that it's a
very enjoyable film,and spoiling one scene isn't gonna make the movie any less
enjoyable now will it?Keep
in mind I didn't give much detail as to the circumstances that lead up to the
demise of the character that
becomes fish food.

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Subject: Re: [MV]Deep Blue Sea

The problem with the spoiler is:


S
P
O
I
L
E
R



That you told everyone that the person whose name is being used to basically sell
the movie, will die a horrible death in the film. I was pissed when I saw it. I
was expecting Jules!!! And if I had read your spoiler, I would have been just as
pissed as they were.
Jackie
"Look, it's like they say, if you're not a rebel by the age of 20, you got no
heart. But if you haven't turned establishment by 30, you got no brains."
                            Buddy Ackerman - Swimming With Sharks


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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:30:00 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: [MV] Deep Blue Sea

I know that the Titanic comparison isn't the same thing,but close
enough.People who read the spoiler will
still enjoy the movie,and if they don't,it's not because of one spoiled
scene,and just in case you didn't
read my other response,I said I was sorry and it would't happen again.I like
this list,and I wanna stay on
it.Let's put this baby to sleep shal we?And Jim,as far as my age,THAT'S NONE
OF YER BEEZWAX!!!

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> I find it hard to believe that you didn't see "Titanic"
> because you knew the
> ship was gonna sink.Come on,
> grow up!!!

In the spirit of your ridiculous Titanic comparison, I must say that your
premise (that fictional plot points are comparible to the outcome of a
historical drama) doesn't hold water.

BTW, how old are *you*?

Jim


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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:41:19 -0700
From: "Jim Sweeney" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Deep Blue Sea

> I like
> this list,and I wanna stay on
> it.

By all means, stay and learn.

> And Jim,as far as my
> age,THAT'S NONE
> OF YER BEEZWAX!!!

16 ?



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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:03:00 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: [MV] Deep Blue Sea

If you must know Jimbo,I'm 30 years old. Why do you ask? Are you implying that
I'm somehow immature?Well,
you're entitled to your opinion.

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> I like
> this list,and I wanna stay on
> it.

By all means, stay and learn.

> And Jim,as far as my
> age,THAT'S NONE
> OF YER BEEZWAX!!!

16 ?



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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:12:07 CDT
From: "Wade Snider" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV]Deep Blue Sea

Well, as good as a film may be, spoiling something like that will do nothing
but take away from the film. I know I won't be able to see it without
thinking about that now. Hey, i don't want to beat the issue to death
either. I made my comment, (halfway jokingly as i don't care too much about
seeing that movie), but i know david wouldn't have said that if he had
thought about it. i think we know that it wasn't intentional, so i can
forgive... :-)

i do have a pet peeve about that kind of thing, though. So, any time someone
even breaths something spoilerish, i get irate. I emailed a nasty complaint
to a reporter who spoiled a big joke in Austin Powers 2 a few months ago,
and it wasn't even a huge deal. it stems back from sitting at a table a few
years ago in a dorm cafeteria when these nearby girls ask each other "Did
you see No Way Out?" "Oh, is that one where Kevin Costner is a _________?"
COMPLETELY REVEALING THE ENDING IN ONE SMALL SENTENCE! And that ending is
completely unexpected and interesting. Then, a few weeks later after I had
forgotten this, my roomate proceeds to remind me by discussing the incident,
thereby doing the same thing that the girls did in the first place. Ever
since then, I have little patience for that.

I'm just thankful I managed to get through 21 years of life before watching
Citizen Kane and not having Rosebud spoiled for me. yes, I was a junior
before I ever watched that movie.

So, as far as i'm concerned, a spoiler like that is uncool, but after a
moment's bitching, I can forgive it since it was just an oops.. lol

Let's move on..

Wade


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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:20:00 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [MV] My List

Here's the list of my favorite movies(In no particular order):\

1. Logan's Run
2. Star Wars
3. Breakfast Club
4. Annie Hall
5. Good Fellas
6. Fast Times At Ridgemont High
7. Grease
8. Saturday Night Fever
9. Hair
10.Taxi Driver
11.Heavan Can Wait
12.Halloween
13.Eaiders Of The Lost Ark

- ----Grateful Dave

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Hey, those aren't entirely black mood films. They are all excellent movies
though. Some of the best one-line comments for each i have seen, too.


>From: "Jacqueline Martin" <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: [MV] Lists and movies
>Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:12:47 -0700
>
>I think I was in a black mood because I wrote the list while at work. Makes
>sense.
>My honorable mention:
>
>Swimming With Sharks
>
>Jackie
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Jim Sweeney
>   To: [e-mail]
>   Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 1:39 PM
>   Subject: RE: [MV] Lists and movies
>
>
>   Were you in a "black" mood, Jackie?  I enjoyed all your favorite movies.
>
>   Jim
>
>   ====LIVE IN SAN DIEGO? ==LOVE GOOD FILM?==FEEL LIKE YOU'RE MISSING
>OUT?====
>   As much as we salivate over all the screenings we hear about to the
>north, some of us can't afford to commute to LA to get our film culture and
>would appreciate local news and discussion from other film-lovers in the
>area. Join "sd-film", a discussion list for film lovers in San Diego geared
>toward rooting out the quality film-going experience in America's finest
>city. To subscribe, head over to
>http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/sd-film.
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: [e-mail]
>[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Jacqueline Martin
>     Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 1:32 PM
>     To: [e-mail]
>     Subject: [MV] Lists and movies
>
>
>     Well, I have never really posted to this list, so here is my top 10:
>
>
>     1. LA Confidential:
>     One of the finest cast performances I have ever seen. Kevin Spacey
>just takes that movie.
>     2. The Shinning:
>     My favorite Kubrick movie, hands down.
>     3. The Silence of The Lambs:
>     One of the few book based movies that are better than the book.
>     4. Schindler's List:
>     A once in a lifetime achievement for any director, unless you're
>Steven Spielberg
>     5. The Usual Suspects:
>     what can I say, I am a sucker for a good Spacey flick
>     6. The Manchurian Candidate
>     I don't know what it is about this film I like, but I like it, so
>there!!!
>     7. Trainspotting
>     Daring film! Good performances all around. Lock Stock is also great.
>     8. Pulp Fiction:
>     Samuel L Jackson deserved the attention that Travolta got!
>     9. The Full Monty:
>     A little film with more heart than a thousand Titanics
>     10. This is Spinal Tap
>     Need I say more? This one goes to 11
>
>
>     Jackie


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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:23:15 -0700
From: "Jim Sweeney" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Deep Blue Sea

> If you must know Jimbo,I'm 30 years old. Why do you ask? Are
> you implying that
> I'm somehow immature?Well,
> you're entitled to your opinion.

Hmmm, no, not implying anything.  Just curious.  Carry on.

Jim


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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:41:56 -0600
From: jkrudy <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Deep Blue Sea

16 tops, I'm leaning towards 14 though.

James




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Subject: RE: [MV] Deep Blue Sea


> I like
> this list,and I wanna stay on
> it.

By all means, stay and learn.

> And Jim,as far as my
> age,THAT'S NONE
> OF YER BEEZWAX!!!

16 ?



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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:45:00 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [MV]Deep Blue Sea

Yeah,Wade it was just an "Ooops," and like I said it won't happen again.I
guess I'm just the type that is
not bothered by spoilers.There are always still some surprises when you see
the film.I practically knew
the entire story of Star Wars:Episode I  6 months B4 it's release just by
reading stuff off the internet.


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Well, as good as a film may be, spoiling something like that will do nothing
but take away from the film. I know I won't be able to see it without
thinking about that now. Hey, i don't want to beat the issue to death
either. I made my comment, (halfway jokingly as i don't care too much about
seeing that movie), but i know david wouldn't have said that if he had
thought about it. i think we know that it wasn't intentional, so i can
forgive... :-)

i do have a pet peeve about that kind of thing, though. So, any time someone
even breaths something spoilerish, i get irate. I emailed a nasty complaint
to a reporter who spoiled a big joke in Austin Powers 2 a few months ago,
and it wasn't even a huge deal. it stems back from sitting at a table a few
years ago in a dorm cafeteria when these nearby girls ask each other "Did
you see No Way Out?" "Oh, is that one where Kevin Costner is a _________?"
COMPLETELY REVEALING THE ENDING IN ONE SMALL SENTENCE! And that ending is
completely unexpected and interesting. Then, a few weeks later after I had
forgotten this, my roomate proceeds to remind me by discussing the incident,
thereby doing the same thing that the girls did in the first place. Ever
since then, I have little patience for that.

I'm just thankful I managed to get through 21 years of life before watching
Citizen Kane and not having Rosebud spoiled for me. yes, I was a junior
before I ever watched that movie.

So, as far as i'm concerned, a spoiler like that is uncool, but after a
moment's bitching, I can forgive it since it was just an oops.. lol

Let's move on..

Wade


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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:47:00 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: [MV] Deep Blue Sea

Ok,the we can still be friends!!!

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> If you must know Jimbo,I'm 30 years old. Why do you ask? Are
> you implying that
> I'm somehow immature?Well,
> you're entitled to your opinion.

Hmmm, no, not implying anything.  Just curious.  Carry on.

Jim


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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:51:11 -0400
From: Josh Pritchard <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Re: Blowing movie secrets  (with EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, GONE WITH THE WIND & SIXTH SENSE spoilers - minor)

>i do have a pet peeve about that kind of thing, though. So, any time someone
>even breaths something spoilerish, i get irate. I emailed a nasty complaint
>to a reporter who spoiled a big joke in Austin Powers 2 a few months ago,
>and it wasn't even a huge deal. it stems back from sitting at a table a few
>years ago in a dorm cafeteria when these nearby girls ask each other "Did
>you see No Way Out?" "Oh, is that one where Kevin Costner is a _________?"
>COMPLETELY REVEALING THE ENDING IN ONE SMALL SENTENCE! And that ending is
>completely unexpected and interesting. Then, a few weeks later after I had
>forgotten this, my roomate proceeds to remind me by discussing the incident,
>thereby doing the same thing that the girls did in the first place. Ever
>since then, I have little patience for that.
>
>I'm just thankful I managed to get through 21 years of life before watching
>Citizen Kane and not having Rosebud spoiled for me. yes, I was a junior
>before I ever watched that movie.


I know that this started as an issue on spoilers, but I think Wade's post
also brings up another issue ... general information about movies.

A prime example would be the recent movie - THE SIXTH SENSE.  I have seen
it, and I liked it.  I thought the performances were solid, especially
Haley Joel Osmet who gave a brilliant performance, regardless of age.

My main problem is the ad campaign ... and here come the spoilers.  They
are minor, but as Ward pointed out ... what I some may think is common
knowledge may be nuggets of treasure to others.  So, with that in mind .....

S

P

O

I
        for EMPIRE STRIKES BACK
L
        and GONE WITH THE WIND
E
        and THE SIXTH SENSE
R

S

The movie was set up to begin with the uncertainty of young Cole's
visions/actions.   To know, definitely, from the previews and press that he
truly CAN see spirits .... it weakens the tension.  It doesn't destroy it
completely, but it definitely lessens it in a way.  And, made the final
moment of Dr. Crowe's realization something I saw coming FAR FAR in
advance.

I know now that Darth Vader is Luke's father ... but god help anyone if
they had told me before the first time I saw EMPIRE.
I know now that poor Bonnie Blue Butler dies, but I still want to kill the
person that ruined that for me.

I imagine what the first viewing of BLAIR WITCH must have been like without
anyone knowing anything about it ... the mystery of  "is it real, is it
staged" floating through their minds.  I envy them ... and pity them at the
same time.

I personally enjoy getting as much advance info as I can, but I seek it
out.  And I dislike people that spring it on me without my permission, even
if they are giving me information that I would have been searching for
myself.  (I don't say that in reference to the, in my opinion, simple
"OOPS" around DEEP BLUE SEA that started all of this, by the way.)

Sometime movies are just movies, and sometimes they are mysterious things
to be discovered as you go along.
I like them both ways, but I don't like it when people make the choice for
me.  That is all.


Thank you all for your time and patience.

*steps down from soapbox*
*wanders off to find another showing of PLAN 9 FROM OUTER SPACE to go mock
and enjoy*




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food."
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 99 15:54:46 -0700
From: "David F. Nolan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Re: Spoilers

I just saw THE SIXTH SENSE, and while I knew what it was about in a
general sense, I did not know the "surprise" ending in advance.  I
figured out what was going on about a half-hour into the movie, but this
did not spoil it for me, because the movie is about a process, a
relationship, and not just a buildup to a punchline.  Would I have
enjoyed the movie less if someone had told me what is revealed at the
end?  Yes, because part of the fun is trying to figure out where things
are going.

Obviously, one person's spoiler is another's "so what?"  I think we all
knew, going into TITANIC, that the ship sinks. And because we see Rose as
a hundred-year-old woman, there's no suspense over whether she'll
survive.  As for Jack ... well, I don't want to give anything away. <g>
Likewise, I doubt that very many people really thought that humanity was
going to be wiped out in either ARMAGEDDON or DEEP IMPACT, so revealing
"the ending" doesn't spoil either movie. (Not that either is very good to
begin with!)

Revealing who gets eaten in a shark movie is a bit dicier.  It takes the
edge off, but it doesn't invalidate the whole movie experience, at least
in my opinion.  I mean, hey, it's a "sharks on the rampage" movie. You
know _someone's_ gonna get  chewed up!

Other movies like VERTIGO, or THE USUAL SUSPECTS, really lose a lot if
you know the ending going in, and anyone who gives it away on purpose is
a jerk.

So, in my opinion, the best practice is not to reveal anything that isn't
common knowledge (the Titanic sank; the Hindenburg blew up; the South
lost the Civil War).  Talk about the acting, the directing, the
production, the dialog, etc. but don't discuss storyline details.

That's not too tough, is it?

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:17:31 -0700
From: "Movieman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Re: Blowing movie secrets  (with EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, GONE WITH THE WIND & SIXTH SENSE spoilers - minor)

Good points Josh - and I whole heartily agree.  Imagine knowing things about
Usual Suspects or Resevoir Dogs or The Spanish Prisoner or The Game or
Presumed Innocent etc...  I enjoy when I get to see the movie unfold as the
director intended it to - not by getting pieces of information about the
movie before it even opens.

As far as the Deep Blue Sea goes - a great action flick - I saw it opening
night (as I often do to avoid spoilers) and when the aforementioned scene
occured the audience was floored!!  It was a great time!  If I had known
that earlier I would have just said - Oh yeah - this scene.

Well that's my two cents - or more like eight cents really.

let's keep spoilers out and good times in...!

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To: [e-mail]
Subject: [MV] Re: Blowing movie secrets (with EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, GONE
WITH THE WIND & SIXTH SENSE spoilers - minor)


>i do have a pet peeve about that kind of thing, though. So, any time
someone
>even breaths something spoilerish, i get irate. I emailed a nasty complaint
>to a reporter who spoiled a big joke in Austin Powers 2 a few months ago,
>and it wasn't even a huge deal. it stems back from sitting at a table a few
>years ago in a dorm cafeteria when these nearby girls ask each other "Did
>you see No Way Out?" "Oh, is that one where Kevin Costner is a _________?"
>COMPLETELY REVEALING THE ENDING IN ONE SMALL SENTENCE! And that ending is
>completely unexpected and interesting. Then, a few weeks later after I had
>forgotten this, my roomate proceeds to remind me by discussing the
incident,
>thereby doing the same thing that the girls did in the first place. Ever
>since then, I have little patience for that.
>
>I'm just thankful I managed to get through 21 years of life before watching
>Citizen Kane and not having Rosebud spoiled for me. yes, I was a junior
>before I ever watched that movie.


I know that this started as an issue on spoilers, but I think Wade's post
also brings up another issue ... general information about movies.

A prime example would be the recent movie - THE SIXTH SENSE.  I have seen
it, and I liked it.  I thought the performances were solid, especially
Haley Joel Osmet who gave a brilliant performance, regardless of age.

My main problem is the ad campaign ... and here come the spoilers.  They
are minor, but as Ward pointed out ... what I some may think is common
knowledge may be nuggets of treasure to others.  So, with that in mind .....

S

P

O

I
        for EMPIRE STRIKES BACK
L
        and GONE WITH THE WIND
E
        and THE SIXTH SENSE
R

S

The movie was set up to begin with the uncertainty of young Cole's
visions/actions.   To know, definitely, from the previews and press that he
truly CAN see spirits .... it weakens the tension.  It doesn't destroy it
completely, but it definitely lessens it in a way.  And, made the final
moment of Dr. Crowe's realization something I saw coming FAR FAR in
advance.

I know now that Darth Vader is Luke's father ... but god help anyone if
they had told me before the first time I saw EMPIRE.
I know now that poor Bonnie Blue Butler dies, but I still want to kill the
person that ruined that for me.

I imagine what the first viewing of BLAIR WITCH must have been like without
anyone knowing anything about it ... the mystery of  "is it real, is it
staged" floating through their minds.  I envy them ... and pity them at the
same time.

I personally enjoy getting as much advance info as I can, but I seek it
out.  And I dislike people that spring it on me without my permission, even
if they are giving me information that I would have been searching for
myself.  (I don't say that in reference to the, in my opinion, simple
"OOPS" around DEEP BLUE SEA that started all of this, by the way.)

Sometime movies are just movies, and sometimes they are mysterious things
to be discovered as you go along.
I like them both ways, but I don't like it when people make the choice for
me.  That is all.


Thank you all for your time and patience.

*steps down from soapbox*
*wanders off to find another showing of PLAN 9 FROM OUTER SPACE to go mock
and enjoy*




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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:39:34 -0700
From: "Romero, Leticia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Films and Movies

Are you kidding?

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    Eric Mayer [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    Sunday, August 22, 1999 8:54 PM
> To:    [e-mail]
> Subject:    Re: [MV] Films and Movies
>
>
>
> > [e-mail] wrote:
> > >
> > > This has got to be the worst top ten list of movies ever. You, Mr.
> Mayer, are
> > > a complete moron. What kind of idiot puts an Ed Wood movie as one of
> the
> > > best? I swear, if I ever see this Eric Mayer on the street I'll break
> both
> > > his legs.
>
> Yeah, and I bet youd like that too you little pervert.  Why don't you go
> play
> Logjammin' with Ernest Borgnine you sick lil' S.O.B.  This person tried to
> sell me
> kiddie porn shortly thereafter his email.  With sick people like Bastion
> here on
> the streets, its no wonder we have Columbine and all that jazz.  Everyone!
> Flame
> Bastion will all your might!  I bet this socialist pig worships satan.
> ROT IN
> HELL BASTION!  ROT IN HELL!! TASTE BLOOD!  DRINK THE LIVING!  AAAAAH!!! MY
> BRAIN!!! MAKE THE PAIN STOP MASTER!!! AAAAAAAAHH!!! NO DONT TAKE MY ARMS
> OFF!!!
> AAAAA!!!  I AM NOW SATAN!!!!! ILL SEE YOU IN HELL BASTION!!!!
> GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! Gee, golly, whiz what was that.  Anyway,
> Bastion,
> you are a sick little pedofile and I am reporting you to the FBI!!  Yeah
> how do
> you like that!  And now for the kicker:
>
> BASTION007 IS A PRIEST!
>
> A PRIEST!! DEAR GOD WHAT HAS THIS SICK SICK WORLD COME TO WHEN A PRIEST
> PUSHING
> CHILD PORNOGRAPHY CAN HAVE SUCH A FORUM OF DISCUSSION!  THE IDEA OF
> BASTION, ALONE
> WITH HIS PHOTOGRAPHY, PUTTING BUTANE LIGHTERS ON HIS GENITALIA IS ENOUGH
> TO MAKE
> ME WANT TO VOMIT ALL OVER THIS DESK.  IN FACT I WILL! BBBBllajaJADHWEFG.
> I feel
> better.
>
> Bastion007, I would like to apoligize about the previous comments.  They
> were
> uncalled for and despicable.  I admit that I am an utter moron and my
> taste in
> films is pointless.  Goodbye.
>
> eric mayer
>
>
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:52:08 -0700
From: "Romero, Leticia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Deep Blue Sea

I have to agree - just because we (real film lovers) like to have the story
unfold before us, doesn't make it childish to be a little upset if something
pivotal is revealed... I mean, $8 is lot of money to spend on a movie that's
been ruined for you already...

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    Jim Sweeney [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    Tuesday, August 24, 1999 12:39 PM
> To:    [e-mail]
> Subject:    RE: [MV] Deep Blue Sea
>
> > I find it hard to believe that you didn't see "Titanic"
> > because you knew the
> > ship was gonna sink.Come on,
> > grow up!!!
>
> In the spirit of your ridiculous Titanic comparison, I must say that your
> premise (that fictional plot points are comparible to the outcome of a
> historical drama) doesn't hold water.
>
> BTW, how old are *you*?
>
> Jim
>
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:33:00 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: [MV] Deep Blue Sea

Sorry bud!I guess "childish" was just a poor choice of words.Hope you will
forgive me.I'm just trying to
say that spoiling one scene doesn't ruin the whole movie.


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Sender: [e-mail]
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Subject: RE: [MV] Deep Blue Sea

I have to agree - just because we (real film lovers) like to have the story
unfold before us, doesn't make it childish to be a little upset if something
pivotal is revealed... I mean, $8 is lot of money to spend on a movie that's
been ruined for you already...

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    Jim Sweeney [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    Tuesday, August 24, 1999 12:39 PM
> To:    [e-mail]
> Subject:    RE: [MV] Deep Blue Sea
>
> > I find it hard to believe that you didn't see "Titanic"
> > because you knew the
> > ship was gonna sink.Come on,
> > grow up!!!
>
> In the spirit of your ridiculous Titanic comparison, I must say that your
> premise (that fictional plot points are comparible to the outcome of a
> historical drama) doesn't hold water.
>
> BTW, how old are *you*?
>
> Jim
>
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:48:36 PDT
From: "Danielle Conkle" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV]Deep Blue Sea...discussing the previous spoiler...

>That you told everyone that the person whose name is being used to
> >basically sell
>the movie, will die a horrible death in the film. I was pissed when >I saw
>it. I

If it helps at all for those who saw that


SPOILER!....





Jackson dies... the way it happened was totally cheesy and you really knew
it was coming anyway.  I still don't understand how people liked this movie.
  I think it goes up on the list to "make fun of" than to sit around and
actually enjoy the flick for what it is.  But that's just my opinion, and it
looks as if I'm the only one!


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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:25:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kate Gradnitzer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] The Blair Witch - YIPES! (spoils)

Who is the screen play author, and how much is he/she
sueing for?

- --- tro s lee <[e-mail]> wrote:
> BWP is being sued for using The Leeds Devils
> (screenplay) and not paying
> the author for the script.
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:38:32 -0400
From: Mel Eperthener <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Lists and movies

At 10.24 AM 24/08/1999 -0700, Jim Sweeney wrote:
>Actually, I was commenting on the fact that Jackie's message arrived with a
>black background (black on black).  I had to highlight the text in order to
>read it.

Just another argument for staying with the old standard, Eudora or any
other text-based client, and not get involved in HTML or RTF:-)

"Whenever I press one of these black buttons labled in black on a black
background, a small black light lights up black to let me know I've done it."

from The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy (soon to be a major motion
picture, we can only hope)

Regards,

- --Mel


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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 22:08:09 -0400
From: Mel Eperthener <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV]Deep Blue Sea

At 04.12 PM 24/08/1999 CDT, Wade Snider wrote:
>i do have a pet peeve about that kind of thing, though. So, any time someone
>even breaths something spoilerish, i get irate. I emailed a nasty complaint
>to a reporter who spoiled a big joke in Austin Powers 2 a few months ago,
>and it wasn't even a huge deal. it stems back from sitting at a table a few
>years ago in a dorm cafeteria when these nearby girls ask each other "Did
>you see No Way Out?" "Oh, is that one where Kevin Costner is a _________?"
>COMPLETELY REVEALING THE ENDING IN ONE SMALL SENTENCE!

Oh, man I think the phrase "justifible homocide" best describes the situation.

And I thought these things only happened to me.  For those that don't know,
I own a video shop.  One day, I had two customers discussing if they had
seen this movie, Before and After.  The wife says to the husband, "Of
course, that's where they find (SPOILER deleted) at the end".

Now, I had no desire to see this movie before that, and now it is not
necessary to watch it.  Still, whenever anyone asks my opinion on that
movie, I tell them about how some idiot ruined the movie for me, and that I
cannot tell them, as there is absolutely NO REASON for me to watch this
movie.  And we only hope thru this action to remind people to watch what
they say, and where they say it.

Regards,

- --Mel


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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:45:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: shelley bornholdt <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] [Mv]:The 13th Warrior

So is anyone going to see "The 13th Warrior" this
opening weekend?

I can't waiting for Silence of the Lambs 2!!  And did
you hear the power's that be are finalizing "the"
script for it!?  Word is Anthony Hopkins and Jody
Foster both must sign, or forget it. Anyone got some
"scoop"?

Maybe we'll find out yet which friend he "had" for dinner!!
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:01:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: shelley bornholdt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Sixth Sense did u know!

Do you know Haley Joel Osment_"Cole" (6th sense) would
hurl himself repeatedly against the wall before his
shoots so he could achieve that "scared stiff" look?
Not bad for a little human!

- --- [e-mail] wrote:
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> Sender: [e-mail]
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> Subject: Re: [MV] Sixth Sense
>
> On 8/17/99, 7:56 PM -0700, shelley bornholdt said so
> nicely:
> >  The
> >"boy's" character-name slips my mind too.  In real
> >life his name is Haley Joel Osment.
>
> His name was Cole.  Oscar caliber if you ask me!!
>
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:44:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kate Gradnitzer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Sixth Sense did u know!

No I didn't know that he would hurl himself
repeatedly against a wall. How old is this child? Very
talented I hear; will see the movie this weekend and
see for myself the brilliant youthful actor.

- --- shelley bornholdt <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Do you know Haley Joel Osment_"Cole" (6th sense)
> would
> hurl himself repeatedly against the wall before his
> shoots so he could achieve that "scared stiff" look?
> Not bad for a little human!
>
> --- [e-mail] wrote:
> > YEAH,THAT LITTLE KID WAS IN FOREST GUMP AS HIS
> SON.
> > ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows
> > )--------------------
> > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:06:49 -0500
> > To: [e-mail]
> > From: [e-mail]
> > Sender: [e-mail]
> > Reply-To: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: [MV] Sixth Sense
> >
> > On 8/17/99, 7:56 PM -0700, shelley bornholdt said
> so
> > nicely:
> > >  The
> > >"boy's" character-name slips my mind too.  In
> real
> > >life his name is Haley Joel Osment.
> >
> > His name was Cole.  Oscar caliber if you ask me!!
> >
> > ~~~~~
> > Diane Christy (Samantha and Joshua's Mom)
> > Jefferson, LA
> > http://www.geocities.com/~dchristy10/
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:45:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kate Gradnitzer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Sixth Sense did u know!

No I didn't know that he would hurl himself
repeatedly against a wall. How old is this child? Very
talented I hear; will see the movie this weekend and
see for myself the brilliant youthful actor.

- --- shelley bornholdt <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Do you know Haley Joel Osment_"Cole" (6th sense)
> would
> hurl himself repeatedly against the wall before his
> shoots so he could achieve that "scared stiff" look?
> Not bad for a little human!
>
> --- [e-mail] wrote:
> > YEAH,THAT LITTLE KID WAS IN FOREST GUMP AS HIS
> SON.
> > ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows
> > )--------------------
> > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:06:49 -0500
> > To: [e-mail]
> > From: [e-mail]
> > Sender: [e-mail]
> > Reply-To: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: [MV] Sixth Sense
> >
> > On 8/17/99, 7:56 PM -0700, shelley bornholdt said
> so
> > nicely:
> > >  The
> > >"boy's" character-name slips my mind too.  In
> real
> > >life his name is Haley Joel Osment.
> >
> > His name was Cole.  Oscar caliber if you ask me!!
> >
> > ~~~~~
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> > Jefferson, LA
> > http://www.geocities.com/~dchristy10/
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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:46:37 +0100
From: MARK <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] [Mv]:The 13th Warrior

Anthony Hopkins and Jodie Foster have both signed for it.  James Woods
is to play victim/killer Mason Verger.  Sarah Michelle Gellar is to play
Vergers lesbian sister, and it is to be directed by Ridley Scott.

Is that enough for ya!

Mark Dainty

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> Sent:    25 August 1999 04:45
> To:    [e-mail]
> Subject:    [MV] [Mv]:The 13th Warrior
>
>
> So is anyone going to see "The 13th Warrior" this
> opening weekend?
>
> I can't waiting for Silence of the Lambs 2!!  And did
> you hear the power's that be are finalizing "the"
> script for it!?  Word is Anthony Hopkins and Jody
> Foster both must sign, or forget it. Anyone got some
> "scoop"?
>
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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:49:08 +0100
From: MARK <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] OFF TOPIC: Pop Quiz (SPOILER)

lighten up buddy!  If ya don't like it, delete it!

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent:    24 August 1999 16:59
> To:    [e-mail]
> Subject:    RE: [MV] OFF TOPIC: Pop Quiz (SPOILER)
>
> Please stop sendin this crap...It has nothing to do w/movies.
>
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> To: [e-mail]
> From: [e-mail]
> Sender: [e-mail]
> Reply-To: [e-mail]
> Subject: RE: [MV] OFF TOPIC: Pop Quiz (SPOILER)
>
>     This took me 17 minutes
>
>     If anyone has the answers to 13;18;28;29 and 33  let me know
> please
>
>     Mark Dainty
>
>
> > 1. 26 = L in the A
>     >Letters in the alphabet
> > 2. 7 = D of the W
>     >Days of the Week
> > 3. 1001 = AN
>     >Arabian Nights
> > 4. 12 = S of the Z
>     >Signs of the Zodiac
> > 5. 54 = C in a D (with J)
>     >Cards in a deck (with Jokers)
> > 6. 9 = P in the SS
>     >Planets in the Solar System
> > 7. 88 = PK
>     >Piano Keys
> > 8. 13 = S on the AF
>     >Stripes on the American Flag
> > 9. 32 = D F at which W F
>     >Degrees farenheith at which water freezes
> > 10. 18 = H on a G C
>     >Holes on a Golf Course
> > 11. 90 = D in a R A
>     >Degrees in a right angle
> > 12. 200 = D for P G in M
>     >Dollars for passing GO in Monopoly
> > 13. 8 = S on SS
> >
> > 14. 3 = B M (S H T R)
>     >Blind Mice (see how they run)
> > 15. 4 = Q in a G
>     >Quarts in a gallon
> > 16. 24 = H in a D
>     >Hours in a day
> > 17. 1 = W on a U
>     >Wheel on a Unicycle
> > 18. 5 = D in a ZC
> >
> > 19. 57 = H V
>     >57 Heinz Varieties
> > 20. 11 = P on a F T
>     >Players on a football team
> > 21. 1000 = W that a P is W
>     >Words that a picture is worth
> > 22. 29 = D in F in a L Y
>     >Days in February in a leap year
> > 23. 64 = S on a C B
>     >Squares on a chess board
> > 24. 40 = D and N of the G F
>     >days and nights of the great flood
> > 25. 50 = W to L Y L
>     >Ways to leave your lover
> > 26. 99 = B of B on the W
>     >Bottles of beer on the wall
> > 27. 60 = S in a M
>     >seconds in a minute
> > 28. 1 = H on a U
> > 29. 9 = J on the S C
> > 30. 7 = B for S B
>     >Brides for seven brothers
> > 31. 21 = D on a D
>     >dots on a dice
> > 32. 7 = W of the A W
>     >Wonders of the Ancient World
> > 33. 1 = B B for E of U
> >
> >
> >
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