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From: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com (movies-digest)
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Subject: movies-digest V2 #84
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movies-digest Wednesday, September 9 1998 Volume 02 : Number 084
Re: [MV] Gerald Taylor
Re: [MV] Gerald Taylor -Reply
RE: [MV] Mamet!!!
RE: [MV] Gerald Taylor
RE: [MV] Gerald Taylor -Reply
RE: [MV] Knock off
[MV] Private Ryan
RE: [MV] Private Ryan
[MV] Movie News - Tuesday,
[MV] Reply from the "Hipster"
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Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 15:30:45 -0700
From: Jason Cormier <movieman@netcom.ca>
Subject: Re: [MV] Gerald Taylor
In Geralds defense, he has seen a slew of flicks. I mean he's seen movies
from every decade and a good variety of them too! Someone who has seen
this many movies must know what they are talking about....their opinion
must be rooted in something. The fact that he didn't like Jeunet's films
does not make him a "hipster of film". Now I did enjoy them a lot but I
don't like any of Scorses films - what does that make me? It's too bad
that some people don't like everything you do...now I don't mean to be
harsh here - but I think that you were pretty harsh in some of your
assumptions although there are some truths in there as well. Criticism is
fine - but remember what movies are - they're entertainment - not the end
of the world! My philosophy is that if someone has a different opinion
than me - fine. I'm not going to waste my energy trying to convert
them...just enjoy the movie!
At 06:02 AM 9/8/1998 -0600, you wrote:
>Whilst, I have to agree that I saw some promise amidst Gerald Taylors
>"Likes". I was also, simply offended to have that much in common with
>the guy. I think that his views of the Jeunet et Caro films
>(Delicatessen and City of Lost Children), the Terry Gilliam Films, and
>the Coen Brothers films ( Hudsucker Proxy and Raising Arizona), are
>extremely disjointed, unrealized, and sad. These are some of the most
>amazing filmmakers around and it is truly traumatic to hear of someone
>with apparently, a little taste in film (outside of the pretentious
>hollywood division) pick apart and pick and choose the choices of
>fantastic directors. I am skeptical and have the overwhelming intuition
>that "Gerald" fancies himself some type of hipster of film and gives
>little to no thought as to the actual genius behind a filmmakers work of
>art. The way I see it, all directosrs make mistakes in the careers, but
>there are some that you have to grow with. I really believe that the
>directors attacked in his essay have no reason at all to be picked
>apart. I don't think this guy sees the bigger picture. He likes some of
>the Danny Boyle films (Trainspotting and Shallow Grave), but, I really
>would hate to hear his opinion of all the Danny Boyle films, as that
>truly would be the straw to break the Camels back.I will go one bigger
>and say outloud, "Scream, I know What You Did Last Summer, and all
>subsequential sequals Sucked and is the type of Hollywood filth that is
>better sent back to the writers, with the attachment-'Grow Up, Get a
>Clue, and find a better day job!'". But, opinions are like Kittens,
>everyone is giving them away. Here is my freebie.
>
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>
Jay the Movieman
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Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 09:14:27 -0700
From: Bruce Bridges <Bruce@SABAN.COM>
Subject: Re: [MV] Gerald Taylor -Reply
I opened my email this morning to find the following excerpt.
>Whilst, I have to agree that I saw some promise amidst Gerald
Taylors
>"Likes". I was also, simply offended to have that much in common
with
>the guy. I think that his views of the Jeunet et Caro films
>(Delicatessen and City of Lost Children), the Terry Gilliam Films,
and
>the Coen Brothers films ( Hudsucker Proxy and Raising Arizona), are
>extremely disjointed, unrealized, and sad. These are some of the
most
>amazing filmmakers around and it is truly traumatic to hear of
someone
>with apparently, a little taste in film (outside of the pretentious
>hollywood division) pick apart and pick and choose the choices of
>fantastic directors. I am skeptical and have the overwhelming
intuition
>that "Gerald" fancies himself some type of hipster of film and gives
>little to no thought as to the actual genius behind a filmmakers
work of
>art.
I thought we all fancied ourselves as some types of hipsters of film.
Hey some movies suck no matter what genius made it.
Speaking of sucking, I saw Knock Off this weekend after it recieved a
good review in the LA Times. What a disaster! It appears that Tsui
Hark convinced Van Damme that he should star in a Hong Kong film for
the international audience. It has all of the weaknesses of Chinese
films without any of the elements that make films from that part of
the world so exciting. It is completely incomprehensible from the
opening shot and only continues to dig itself into a deeper and more
confusing hole. Technically it is a disaster and seems to have been
shot MOS as is common with Hong Kong films. This should be another
nail in Van Damme's career coffin.
Has anybody heard of "Six String Samurai"? It is starting this month
in LA and has been getting a lot of good advance press. The trailer
looks great.
bb
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:05:10 -0700
From: "Romero, Leticia" <lromero@saonet.ucla.edu>
Subject: RE: [MV] Mamet!!!
And just what was wrong with The Edge? Besides the fact that it seems
ludicrious (sp?) that an OLD book worm would not only know how to survive in
the wild, but manages to catch a young nubile and dumb wife?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Cormier [SMTP:movieman@netcom.ca]
> Sent: Monday, September 07, 1998 2:59 AM
> To: movies@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: [MV] Mamet!!!
>
> Ah - another Mamet fan! I felt exactly the same way about Oleanna as
> well! I love William H. Macy (and he totally deserved the Oscar for Fargo
> - but i won't get into that right now!) Hip hip hooray for Mamet! (minus
> The Edge of course...)
>
> At 10:32 AM 8/28/1998 +0100, you wrote:
> >>>>
>
>
>
>
>
> >Yes!! We have so much fun in the supermarket, people staring at us
> as if we
> >were having an actual conversation.... evil I know, but I'm working
> on it...
> My God!! It was'nt the "Brass balls" speech was it! :-)
> Incidentally, have you seen "Oleanna" ? It's one of those films
> that starts poorly but then sucks you in totally. Very stagey but the
> plot evolves into a real "Shout at the screen" experience.
> You really should write longer posts, you are quite amusing. What
> are some of your favourite movies?~
> Gerry T
> ~~~~~
> I think I could turn and live with animals, they are so placid and
> self contained,
> I stand and look at them long and long.
> They do not sweat and whine about their condition,
> They do not lie awake and weep for their sins,
> they do not make me sick discussing their duty to God,
> not one is dissatisfied, not one demented with the mania of owning
> things,
> Not one kneels to another nor to his own kind that lived thousands
> of years ago,
> not one is respectable or unhappy over the whole earth.
> Walt
> Whitman.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
>
>
> <<<<
>
>
>
> Jay the Movieman
> movieman@netcom.ca
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:09:32 -0700
From: "Romero, Leticia" <lromero@saonet.ucla.edu>
Subject: RE: [MV] Gerald Taylor
well Travis, as long as we agree about the "kittens"....
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Travis [SMTP:modestme@micron.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 1998 5:03 AM
> To: movies@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: [MV] Gerald Taylor
>
> Whilst, I have to agree that I saw some promise amidst Gerald Taylors
> "Likes". I was also, simply offended to have that much in common with
> the guy. I think that his views of the Jeunet et Caro films
> (Delicatessen and City of Lost Children), the Terry Gilliam Films, and
> the Coen Brothers films ( Hudsucker Proxy and Raising Arizona), are
> extremely disjointed, unrealized, and sad. These are some of the most
> amazing filmmakers around and it is truly traumatic to hear of someone
> with apparently, a little taste in film (outside of the pretentious
> hollywood division) pick apart and pick and choose the choices of
> fantastic directors. I am skeptical and have the overwhelming intuition
> that "Gerald" fancies himself some type of hipster of film and gives
> little to no thought as to the actual genius behind a filmmakers work of
> art. The way I see it, all directosrs make mistakes in the careers, but
> there are some that you have to grow with. I really believe that the
> directors attacked in his essay have no reason at all to be picked
> apart. I don't think this guy sees the bigger picture. He likes some of
> the Danny Boyle films (Trainspotting and Shallow Grave), but, I really
> would hate to hear his opinion of all the Danny Boyle films, as that
> truly would be the straw to break the Camels back.I will go one bigger
> and say outloud, "Scream, I know What You Did Last Summer, and all
> subsequential sequals Sucked and is the type of Hollywood filth that is
> better sent back to the writers, with the attachment-'Grow Up, Get a
> Clue, and find a better day job!'". But, opinions are like Kittens,
> everyone is giving them away. Here is my freebie.
>
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:14:24 -0700
From: "Romero, Leticia" <lromero@saonet.ucla.edu>
Subject: RE: [MV] Gerald Taylor -Reply
> Speaking of sucking, I saw Knock Off this weekend after it recieved a
> good review in the LA Times. What a disaster! It appears that Tsui
> Hark convinced Van Damme that he should star in a Hong Kong film for
> the international audience. It has all of the weaknesses of Chinese
> films without any of the elements that make films from that part of
> the world so exciting. It is completely incomprehensible from the
> opening shot and only continues to dig itself into a deeper and more
> confusing hole. Technically it is a disaster and seems to have been
> shot MOS as is common with Hong Kong films. This should be another
> nail in Van Damme's career coffin.
[Romero, Leticia] Although I will always agree with anything
anti-Van Damme, I thought Knock Off was a hoot!! Once you realize that it
CAN'T be taken seriously, I really enjoyed it! I swear the dialogue was
dubbed, it looked so Hong Kong! It was a fun dumb movie! Has anyone seen
"54"? THAT was a waste of time....
> Has anybody heard of "Six String Samurai"? It is starting this month
> in LA and has been getting a lot of good advance press. The trailer
> looks great. [Romero, Leticia] Saw the trailer, it does look
> awsome...
>
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Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 09:34:55 -0700
From: Bruce Bridges <Bruce@SABAN.COM>
Subject: RE: [MV] Knock off
I will agree that Knock Off was dumb but fun, No way. I did get a
few chuckles out of it and if you were in the theatre with me you
would have heard me almost guffaw a couple of times. My laughter
wasn't the happy kind that we all love and enjoy but was instead my
desperate way of trying to find something to keep me occupied (find
the next idiotic sequence!) while I endured the flick. The action
scenes weren't even enjoyable as you would expect but rather were so
disjointed and filled with groovy camera angles/moves that they made
no sense.
Of course that's just my opinion.
bb
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Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 17:32:22 -0400
From: Gene Ehrich <g@ehrich.com>
Subject: [MV] Private Ryan
My wife and I went to see Saving Private Ryan last night and came away
agreeing on some basic points.
1. Brilliantly made movie.
2. Excellent acting and characterizations.
3. Most realistic war movie we have ever seen
4. Total waste of our time.
5. We hated it even more than Armageddon.
Gene & Yolanda
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 15:44:30 -0600
From: jkrudy <jkrudy@micron.com>
Subject: RE: [MV] Private Ryan
I'm just curious what it was about the movie that made you feel it was a
waste of your time? What were you expecting from the movie? I'm sorry but
I'm of the opinion that if a movie meets or exceeds my expectations then it
was well worth my time. I would really be interested in your critique of
this movie, because your first 3 points don't seem to jive with your last 2.
This is the first time I've replied to a posting so If I'm totally out of
line, I'm sure you will all let me know.
JAMES K. RUDY
- -----Original Message-----
From: Gene Ehrich [SMTP:g@ehrich.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 1998 3:32 PM
To: movies@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [MV] Private Ryan
My wife and I went to see Saving Private Ryan last night and came away
agreeing on some basic points.
1. Brilliantly made movie.
2. Excellent acting and characterizations.
3. Most realistic war movie we have ever seen
4. Total waste of our time.
5. We hated it even more than Armageddon.
Gene & Yolanda
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:49:22 -0600 (MDT)
From: The Reporter <gregorys@xmission.com>
Subject: [MV] Movie News - Tuesday,
Japan's most acclaimed director, Akira Kurosawa, dubbed the
emperor of Japanese cinema for films such as "The Seven
Samurai" and "Rashomon," died on Sunday at the age of 88. He
suffered a stroke in his Tokyo home. Kurosawa's powerful,
poetic movies put Japanese cinema on the international map
and inspired such U.S. filmmakers as Steven Spielberg and
George Lucas. The only director to have won two Oscars for
best foreign film, Kurosawa received a lifetime achievement
Academy Award in 1990 but modestly said he had not yet
earned it.
-=> * <=-
"There's Something About Mary" ended the summer box office
season on a high note and finished No. 1 at the Labor Day
weekend box office, earning about $11.6 million. Only one
new wide-release entered the fray this past weekend: "Knock
Off," a martial arts movie starring Jean-Claude Van Damme,
which opened in fourth place with a humble $5.6 million.
"Blade," which had spent the previous two weeks at No. 1,
slipped to second place with $10.4 million. "Saving Private
Ryan" held steady in third with $8.6 million. "Ever After,"
starring Drew Barrymore in the Cinderella story, rose a
notch to fifth with $4.4 million.
-=> * <=-
Overall summer business finished 12% stronger than last
year's, with $2.5 billion and nine films making more than
$100 million: "Armageddon," "Saving Private Ryan," "Deep
Impact," "Dr. Dolittle," "Godzilla," "There's Something
About Mary," "Lethal Weapon 4," "The Truman Show" and
"Mulan."
-=> * <=-
John Travolta reveals in a new biography that his mother had
one sure-fire way to get him to do chores: Pin any request
on actor Jimmy Cagney. "He was the only one outside my
family who was a main source of inspiration," Travolta says
in "Travolta: The Life," written by Nigel Andrews, the film
critic for Britain's Financial Times. Travolta says in the
book that he would sit in front of the TV whenever Cagney's
"Yankee Doodle Dandy" came on and would tap along with the
star. Travolta's mother would pretend the actor was on the
phone and say to John: "Mr. Cagney is calling. He wants you
to brush your teeth and tidy your room."
-=> * <=-
VENICE, Italy (Reuters) - Remember Grace Kelly in the Hitchcock
thriller "Dial M for Murder?" Now think again. Fast-forward four
decades. Shift the action to New York. Enter smart, urban heroine - a
true 1990s girl. Add a love triangle, old money and a Wall Street
whiz. You have "A Perfect Murder" - Hitchcock updated and, its makers
say, improved. "Alfred Hitchcock's movie 'Dial M For Murder' was
based on a play ... that was more successful in the theater," star
Michael Douglas said Saturday at the Venice film festival, where "A
Perfect Murder" is showing out of competition. "It's not that good.
With all due respect, Alfred Hitchcock is one of my favorite
directors but we all have made movies in our lives that are not very
good."
-=> * <=-
STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - Royalty and Hollywood movie stars are lining up
to buy bottles of Titanic-era champagne raised this summer from a
ship sunk off the west coast of Finland in the Baltic Sea in Nov.
1916. Claes Bergvall, leader of a Swedish-Danish diving team that
recovered the liquid treasure from the Swedish ketch Jonkoping, said
the interest in the champagne had been overwhelming - even at a price
of $3,000 a bottle. The 2,400 bottles of 1907 Heidsieck & Co.
champagne was recovered from the Jonkoping, sunk by a German
submarine during World War I while en route from Gavle, Sweden to
Rauma in Finland.
-=> * <=-
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The lowbrow comedy "There's Something About
Mary" ended the summer box office season on a high note when it
reached the top of the rankings in its eighth weekend of release. The
film, starring Cameron Diaz as the love interest of both Ben Stiller
and Matt Dillon, earned about $11.6 million for the four-day Labor
Day holiday weekend, according to studio estimates issued Monday.
"Blade," which had spent the previous two weeks at No. 1, slipped to
second with $10.4 million. "Saving Private Ryan" held steady in third
with $8.6 million. "Knock Off," a martial arts movie starring
Jean-Claude Van Damme, opened in fourth with $5.6 million."Ever
After" starring Drew Barrymore in the Cinderella story, rose a notch
to fifth with $4.4 million.
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 15:37:17 +0100
From: "Gerald Taylor" <geeg@vossnet.co.uk>
Subject: [MV] Reply from the "Hipster"
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What can I say Travis? Your post in turns amused and bemused me. I =
have kept some of your original dialogue to comment on but have trouble =
trying to work out what you are getting at. Is there a chance that you =
have misread it? As some of Jay's original dialogue was still in there. =
I have placed a @ at the beginning of my new comments.
>Whilst, I have to agree that I saw some promise amidst Gerald Taylors
>"Likes". I was also, simply offended to have that much in common with
>the guy.
@@@ What do we have in common? Perhaps a love of film? I'd say that's =
all...........I disagreed with some of Jay's choices but do not find =
myself offended that some of the films on his list were ones I enjoyed. =
I have a lot of respect for the guy and just because some of the films =
are not favourites of mine does not mean I am rating them alongside such =
dreck as "Boxing helena" or other bad movies. A lot of films on his =
list are enjoyable......and well made.....just are not favourites of =
MINE. Anyone that shows they have seen a lot of films has my respect =
even if I do not agree with their choices.......it's all to do with =
PERSONAL taste.
I think that his views of the Jeunet et Caro films
>(Delicatessen and City of Lost Children), the Terry Gilliam Films, and
>the Coen Brothers films ( Hudsucker Proxy and Raising Arizona), are
>extremely disjointed, unrealized, and sad.
@@@@ So I am sad just because I did not enjoy those two as much as =
their others? So every film a favourite director of yours makes is =
perfect in every detail? If you hold this belief then I'd rank you as =
the sad one.......
These are some of the most
>amazing filmmakers around and it is truly traumatic to hear of someone
>with apparently, a little taste in film (outside of the pretentious=20
>hollywood division) pick apart and pick and choose the choices of
>fantastic directors. I am skeptical and have the overwhelming intuition
>that "Gerald" fancies himself some type of hipster of film and gives
>little to no thought as to the actual genius behind a filmmakers work =
of
>art. The way I see it, all directosrs make mistakes in the careers, but
>there are some that you have to grow with.
@@@Excuse me? I judge a film by it's contents, I do not give a poor =
film a sympathy vote just because the dierector usually turns out better =
movies. On the subject of growing with directors......what is that all =
about. A lot of Director's get worse with age rather than better. =
Should we look at "Alien 4" and regard it as better than "City" and =
"Delicatessan"? I think not. Alfred Hitchcock was a great director but =
I defy anybody to claim that "Family plot" (especially the last half =
hour!) is great film. Edward D. Wood would have blushed at some of the =
silliness near the end of that film. I have a lot of respect for De =
Palma but that does not stop "Raising Caine" being a travesty. I refuse =
to feel obligated to praise a great director no matter what they =
release.....and does criticising (not rubbishing) two films of the Coen =
brothers count as regarding all their work as crap? Or make them poor =
craftsmen? Get real!!! =20
I really believe that the
>directors attacked in his essay
@@@ Essay???!!! It was just a reply to a post!
have no reason at all to be picked
>apart. I don't think this guy sees the bigger picture. He likes some of
>the Danny Boyle films (Trainspotting and Shallow Grave), but, I really
>would hate to hear his opinion of all the Danny Boyle films
@@@What, all three of them!!!!!
as that
>truly would be the straw to break the Camels back.I will go one bigger
>and say outloud, "Scream, I know What You Did Last Summer, and all
>subsequential sequals Sucked and is the type of Hollywood filth that is
>better sent back to the writers, with the attachment-'Grow Up, Get a
>Clue, and find a better day job!'". But, opinions are like Kittens,
>everyone is giving them away. Here is my freebie.
I dont recall hailing "Scream" as a great horror film......I said it was =
O.K. It is a step back in the right direction for horror films compared =
to the last 8 years. Anyway........why not inform the mailing list of =
some of your favourites? Who knows someone may think your just =
elitist.............I await with baited breath!~
Gerry T
~~~~~
I think I could turn and live with animals, they are so placid and self =
contained,
I stand and look at them long and long.
They do not sweat and whine about their condition,
They do not lie awake and weep for their sins,
they do not make me sick discussing their duty to God,
not one is dissatisfied, not one demented with the mania of owning =
things,
Not one kneels to another nor to his own kind that lived thousands of =
years ago,
not one is respectable or unhappy over the whole earth.
Walt =
Whitman.
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<DIV></FONT>>Whilst, I have to agree that I saw some promise amidst =
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that much=20
in common with<BR>>the guy.</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D4>@@@ What do we have in common? =
Perhaps a=20
love of film? I'd say that's all...........I disagreed with some =
of Jay's=20
choices but do not find myself offended that some of the films on his =
list were=20
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because some=20
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alongside=20
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of=20
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favourites=20
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respect=20
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PERSONAL=20
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D4>@@@@ So I am sad just because I did =
not enjoy=20
those two as much as their others? So every film a favourite =
director of=20
yours makes is perfect in every detail? If you hold this belief =
then I'd=20
rank you as the sad one.......</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV> These are some of the most<BR>>amazing filmmakers around =
and it is=20
truly traumatic to hear of someone<BR>>with apparently, a little =
taste in=20
film (outside of the pretentious <BR>>hollywood division) pick apart =
and pick=20
and choose the choices of<BR>>fantastic directors. I am skeptical and =
have=20
the overwhelming intuition<BR>>that "Gerald" fancies =
himself some=20
type of hipster of film and gives<BR>>little to no thought as to the =
actual=20
genius behind a filmmakers work of<BR>>art. The way I see it, all =
directosrs=20
make mistakes in the careers, but<BR>>there are some that you have to =
grow=20
with.</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D4>@@@Excuse me? I judge a film by it's =
contents, I=20
do not give a poor film a sympathy vote just because the dierector =
usually turns=20
out better movies. On the subject of growing with =
directors......what is=20
that all about. A lot of Director's get worse with age rather than =
better. Should we look at "Alien 4" and regard it as =
better than=20
"City" and "Delicatessan"? I think not. =
Alfred=20
Hitchcock was a great director but I defy anybody to claim that =
"Family=20
plot" (especially the last half hour!) is great film. Edward =
D. Wood=20
would have blushed at some of the silliness near the end of that =
film. I=20
have a lot of respect for De Palma but that does not stop "Raising=20
Caine" being a travesty. I refuse to feel obligated to praise =
a great=20
director no matter what they release.....and does criticising (not =
rubbishing)=20
two films of the Coen brothers count as regarding all their work as =
crap? Or=20
make them poor craftsmen? Get real!!! </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I really believe that the<BR>>directors attacked in his =
essay</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D4>@@@ Essay???!!! It was just a =
reply to a=20
post!</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV> have no reason at all to be picked<BR>>apart. I don't =
think this=20
guy sees the bigger picture. He likes some of<BR>>the Danny Boyle =
films=20
(Trainspotting and Shallow Grave), but, I really<BR>>would hate to =
hear his=20
opinion of all the Danny Boyle films</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D4>@@@What, all three of=20
them!!!!!<BR><BR></FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV> as that<BR>>truly would be the straw to break the Camels =
back.I=20
will go one bigger<BR>>and say outloud, "Scream, I know What You =
Did=20
Last Summer, and all<BR>>subsequential sequals Sucked and is the type =
of=20
Hollywood filth that is<BR>>better sent back to the writers, with the =
attachment-'Grow Up, Get a<BR>>Clue, and find a better day =
job!'". But,=20
opinions are like Kittens,<BR>>everyone is giving them away. Here is =
my=20
freebie.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D4>I dont recall hailing "Scream" as =
a great=20
horror film......I said it was O.K. It is a step back in the right =
direction for horror films compared to the last 8 years. =
Anyway........why=20
not inform the mailing list of some of your favourites? Who knows =
someone=20
may think your just elitist.............I await with baited =
breath!~<BR>Gerry=20
T<BR>~~~~~<BR>I think I could turn and live with animals, they are so =
placid and=20
self contained,<BR>I stand and look at them long and long.<BR>They do =
not sweat=20
and whine about their condition,<BR>They do not lie awake and weep for =
their=20
sins,<BR>they do not make me sick discussing their duty to God,<BR>not =
one is=20
dissatisfied, not one demented with the mania of owning things,<BR>Not =
one=20
kneels to another nor to his own kind that lived thousands of years =
ago,<BR>not=20
one is respectable or unhappy over the whole=20
earth.<BR> &nb=
sp; &nbs=
p;  =
; =
&=
nbsp; =20
Walt=20
Whitman.<BR>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</FONT></STRONG><BR>]<=
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