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From: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com (movies-digest) To: movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: movies-digest V2 #47 Reply-To: movies-digest Sender: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk movies-digest Thursday, July 2 1998 Volume 02 : Number 047 Re: [MV] Armageddon, * 1/2 (out of 4) Re: [MV] Armageddon, * 1/2 (out of 4) Re: [MV] Armageddon, * 1/2 (out of 4) Re: [MV] Rap artist Russel Jones wounded during robbery yesterday RE: [MV] Armageddon, * 1/2 (out of 4) [MV] Buzzy's ARMAGEDDON Review Re: [MV] films that worthing seeing Re: [MV] films that worthing seeing (The Abyss) Re: [MV] films that worthing seeing (The Abyss) [MV] The Movie Report#149, 7/1/98 Re: [MV] films that worthing seeing [MV] Deep Impact vs Armageddon Re: [MV] films that worthing seeing (The Abyss) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:08:12 EDT From: <BzRvueNews@aol.com> Subject: Re: [MV] Armageddon, * 1/2 (out of 4) [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:08:20 EDT From: <BzRvueNews@aol.com> Subject: Re: [MV] Armageddon, * 1/2 (out of 4) [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:10:26 EDT From: <BzRvueNews@aol.com> Subject: Re: [MV] Armageddon, * 1/2 (out of 4) What? Are y'all talking about the same movie? This movie is going to blow every other summer movie away. I'm writing my review and then see this. Baloney! Buzzy highly recommwnds this. official Buzzy review coming soon. Buzzy [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:09:30 cet From: "greuel" <greuel@eifel-net.net> Subject: Re: [MV] Rap artist Russel Jones wounded during robbery yesterday >=20 > I got this news just now.But I wonder what is a Rap artist? Rap (aka Hip Hop) is a form of black music that started in the late 70s. = It's not=20 really singing but rather a fast rhythmic speech to music with a heavy ba= ss=20 line. It springs form the black ghettos and thus there still is a link to= crime -=20 especially drugs. I never heard of Russel Jones but the life expectancy o= f rap=20 artists is in general not very high. The Notorious B.I.G. was shot last y= ear (or=20 something) and whats-his-name-again before. Rap used to be highly innovat= ive=20 and sometimes political (Grandmaster Flash, Run DMC, Public Enemy,=20 Salt'N'Peppa, Arrested Development, De La Soul, Ice-T) but lately it's la= rgely=20 more about stealing from other songs (sampling), using offensive language= and=20 making videos that are really soft-porns. It is a bit more divers than I = portrayed=20 it, but you get the idea. But it is certainly worth checking the music ou= t as it is=20 highly popular and there are still some good bands around. I'd say to=20 understand popular western culture it is quite essential to know about it= - it has=20 founded a whole new type of music and white folks have taken it up. And m= any=20 non-English speaking countries have their own rap-scene in their native=20 language. So you have the one in a lifetime chance to become the first ar= tist=20 rapping in Cantonese. If you have a soundcard on your computer - I am sur= e=20 there are rap-sites with tons of audiofiles. I guess it is a kind of musi= c that is=20 not yet known in China. But since our void and mindless western culture i= s=20 penetrating even the most resistant and remotest parts of the world, I am= sure=20 it will come to China eventually. If you are familiar with our films, the= n you will=20 certainly have come across some rap music. Before any of you other people in western countries flame me for being an= =20 ignorant *#!=A7@!'* I know that I know nothing about rap - I'm just tryin= g to explain=20 to someone who is not familiar with the music. Send all flames to=20 Idon'tcare@inexistent.com . > Thank Ryan for answering my question.I have just seen the movie 'star > troopers',very cool! I also love the film 'Robo Cop'directed by the sam= e > director ,Do you know other films directed by him? Michael Verhoeven also did Basic Instinct and Show Girls (a really bad on= e -=20 that is not quite bad enough to be cool) - they are completely different = from=20 Robocop and ST. There are more that slip my mind at this point. If you wa= nt to=20 know anything about films you can find it at the internet movie database = - -=20 http://www.imdb.com . They got more than you need to know and you can=20 search for whatever you like.=20 hope this helps thomas http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/8911/ - abomiNation [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:06:02 -0600 From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" <greg_swarthout@autosoft.com> Subject: RE: [MV] Armageddon, * 1/2 (out of 4) On Wednesday, July 01, 1998 1:18 PM, Mel Eperthener [SMTP:bcassidy@usaor.net] wrote: > So in other words, this is Die Hard On An Asteroid?? If only... [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:35:50 EDT From: <BzRvueNews@aol.com> Subject: [MV] Buzzy's ARMAGEDDON Review ARMAGEDDON approx: 2 hours and 20 minutes running time This is THE movie to see! Forget everything I've said about any other movie. While the movies that I liked were good, ARMAGEDDON is going to hit them like the end of their world. Baby! This movie is hotter than hot and slicker than crude oil! By the end of this picture, you are going to love every cast member like you love your best friend. These actors, every single damn one of them, play their roles as if born to them. Afraid that this is another Bruce Willis, floppo stinko? Hoping that if you are lucky, it might, might, be at least as good as, say, Die Hard? The only smell coming from this picture is that of success and it reeks of it! Now Die Hard, I liked, ARMAGEDDON, I do believe, gave me heart palpitations. True love, The music and sound fx alone, played magnificently by the Kerasotes, http://www.kerasotes.com , SHOWPLACE 16 sound system, are reason enough to see this one, If you can see it in one of these amazing theaters , do it and do it now. These theaters are brilliantly designed, high-tech, but with at home comfort that helps to place you right smack in the movie as an unseen extra, The folks running the one in South Bend should be proud. They were extremely helpful and friendly. The general plot itself seems to be the buzz plot of the season. Total annihilation of Earth and all who live upon her. Basically, we're going to get hit with a damn big rock, One the size of Texas. While everyone is rushing about, madly trying to save the world, we are treated to scenes of mass destruction wrought by meteor showers. We also get treated to the comedy of a group of rough and ready oil roughnecks with a heart of gold. Turns out that these raw, masculine guys just happened to help their boss raise his little girl and she has turned into a strong hearted woman. Amazingly enough, the US government eventually happen to come upon a plan to save us all that needs guys who know drilling and therein begins the rest of the story. This movie never lets up. Hurled from scene to scene, you do not even get to draw a breath without first being pummeled with action, humor, or pathos. You seem there. An actual participant in events. ARMAGEDDON is the STAR WARS of the Summer of 98. Buzzy [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:00:05 EDT From: <KenKnows@aol.com> Subject: Re: [MV] films that worthing seeing In a message dated 98-07-01 06:35:26 EDT, you write: << I want to buy some video movies,but find it's difficult to choose which one I should buy.Could you give me the list the films that you would never regret buying? >> from the 1990s: Tomorrow Never Dies - action/adventure from the 1980s: Streets of Fire - musical/action/adventure from the 1970s: Saturday Night Fever - musical from the 1960s: West Side Story - musical from the 1950s: High Noon - western from the 1940s: Casablanca - action/adventure Even those films on my list that are not identified as musicals have significant music. [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 20:14:24 -0400 From: Chris Culligan <culligan@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [MV] films that worthing seeing (The Abyss) I remember seeing the Abyss at the movie theater. All though I liked it, I thought the ending ruined the whole movie (so corny it was almost laughable). It wasn't until I saw the uncut edition on TV that I understood what Camaron was trying to accomplish with his ending. Why they decided to chop the wonderful ending of this movie up is beyond me. The whole movie made so much more sense with the uncut version. I would love to see this movie re-released to theaters with the uncut ending. A beautiful film in every other way, this would allow me to view it they way it should have been viewed in the first place! CHRIS >*All of the following are Special Editions* >Alien, Aliens, The Abyss (must have the special edition, regular edition is >horrible), The Rock, Terminator 2, and Star Wars [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:34:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Anita Watts <wk136@victoria.tc.ca> Subject: Re: [MV] films that worthing seeing (The Abyss) How about telling us how it *really* is supposed to end. I thought the ending was corny too, until I gave it deeper thought, because no one in their right mind would have chosen its surface meaning. We are talking about what he says, right? On Wed, 1 Jul 1998, Chris Culligan wrote: > I remember seeing the Abyss at the movie theater. All though I liked it, I > thought the ending ruined the whole movie (so corny it was almost > laughable). It wasn't until I saw the uncut edition on TV that I > understood what Camaron was trying to accomplish with his ending. Why they > decided to chop the wonderful ending of this movie up is beyond me. The > whole movie made so much more sense with the uncut version. I would love > to see this movie re-released to theaters with the uncut ending. A > beautiful film in every other way, this would allow me to view it they way > it should have been viewed in the first place! > > CHRIS > > >*All of the following are Special Editions* > >Alien, Aliens, The Abyss (must have the special edition, regular edition is > >horrible), The Rock, Terminator 2, and Star Wars > > > > > [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] > [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 18:19:11 -0700 From: Michael Dequina <michael_jordan@geocities.com> Subject: [MV] The Movie Report#149, 7/1/98 T H E M O V I E R E P O R T #149 JULY 1, 1998 If your site was linked on Movie Site Links, please e-mail me your site name and URL so I don't forget to include it on the new list. Thank you. =>T H I S W E E K<= M O V I E S - -Armageddon - -Out of Sight V I D E O - -Amistad - -Half Baked - -No Looking Back - -Police Story - -The Replacement Killers - -Wag the Dog Select reviews are available at CompuServe Hollywood Hotline: http://www.HollywoodHotline.com ...and the Eyepiece Network at: http://www.eyepiece.com For links to the official websites of all the current films, past reviews, exclusive Hollywood event photos, movie discussion board, movie theme MIDI files, and more, visit Mr. Brown's Movie Site at: http://welcome.to/mrbrown or http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown Please don't forget to sign the guestbook... all movies graded out of four stars (****) ~~~ =>M O V I E S<= N E W R E L E A S E S Armageddon (PG-13) *** For all the talk about their shared "the sky is falling" theme, _Armageddon_, about an asteroid on a collision course with Earth, can best be described as the opposite side of a coin shared by its counterpart, the serious falling comet tale _Deep_Impact_. That said, on its own, unique terms, the slam-bang _Armageddon_ is a reasonably satisfying summer blockbuster, with all the flaws and virtues that come with that label. In addition to the "end of the world" theme, _Armageddon_ and _Deep_Impact_ do have another thing in common: successfully overcoming a setup that borders on the ridiculous. After a group of top government and scientific advisors determine that the only way to possibly prevent (yes) armageddon is to detonate a nuclear bomb inside the asteroid, NASA executive director Truman (Billy Bob Thornton) recruits expert deep-core driller Harry Stamper (Bruce Willis, inexplicably speaking in a wildly inconsistent drawl) and his crew to do the job. Of course, these drillers aren't astronauts, which means a slow-going hour-long passage in which the roughnecks undergo extensive training and evaluation for their outer space mission. A lot of what goes on, including psychological and physical exams and a side trip to a strip club, is supposed to be funny. But with the exception of a couple of one-liners dryly delivered by the always-entertaining Steve Buscemi (as horny geologist Rockhound), the comedy is merely tedious--just as tedious, in fact, as the setup of _Deep_Impact_, but in a different way, ineptly aiming for cheap laughs as opposed to earnestly setting up hokey, all-too-familiar disaster epic plot threads. _Armageddon_'s light touch is just one in its long line of differences from its more grave counterpart. While _Deep_Impact_ was a dramatic treatment of a doomsday scenario, _Armageddon_ takes a gung-ho, action-oriented approach. Director Michael Bay (who appears fleetingly as a NASA technician) wastes no time putting the special effects dollars to work; before he hits the basic training lull, Bay treats the audience to a curtain-raising space shuttle explosion and a spectacular meteor shower in New York City. With this different angle comes a pivotal change of perspective, focusing on the outer space rescue mission as opposed to _Impact_'s cross-section of Earth dwellers. So, in essence, it can be said that _Armageddon_, with its scrappy crew doing their best to "fight the future," is a film about living, not dying, the ominous inevitability of which was the Earth-centered _Impact_'s main issue. Ultimately, the difference between _Armageddon_ and _Deep_Impact_ can be boiled down to a fundamental one: male and female. As _Entertainment_Weekly_'s Lisa Schwarzbaum observed in her review, the touchy-feely _Deep_Impact_ was a "woman's action movie"; _Armageddon_, from notoriously testosterone-heavy producer Jerry Bruckheimer, is clearly one for the guys. In addition to all the full-throttle spectacle, _Armageddon_, like all Bruckheimer films, barely has enough time for the onscreen females. Liv Tyler is prominently featured in the marketing campaign, but her slim role is merely an amalgam of two cardboard female stereotypes: rebellious daughter (to Harry) and devoted girlfriend (to driller A.J. Frost, played by Ben Affleck). There is one female on the space crew, ballbusting co-pilot Watts (Jessica Steen), but, in typical Bruckheimer fashion, she's literally shoved out of the way at a critical moment. So when _Armageddon_ picks up steam with the shuttle launch at about the one-hour mark, it is momentum of the hard-driving, Hollywood action sort that takes over, not the subtle, surprising poignance that _Deep_Impact_ eventually took on. Bay, as shown in his previous two films (also Bruckheimer productions), _Bad_Boys_ and _The_Rock_, is a crack action director, and he successfully generates tension and excitement from otherwise been-there, done-that situations such as the last-second disarming of a ticking bomb (complete with, as Roger Ebert terms them, an "RDR"--red digital display) and a narrow escape from an exploding complex. All of the mayhem comes bathed in Bay's trademark, music-video-honed visual razzle dazzle, heavy on the quick cuts and slow-mo moments, which keeps the proceedings interesting. _Armageddon_ is a sturdy popcorn extravaganza; if only Bay and the writing crew of Jonathan Hensleigh, J.J. Abrams, Robert Roy Pool, Jonathan Hensleigh, Tony Gilroy, and Shane Salerno were content to keep it that way. But, seeing they were telling a larger-than-life story (and perhaps swayed by the estrogen of producer Gale Anne Hurd), they decided to go for emotional content to match, with smaller-than-life results. While there is nothing here nearly as embarrassing as the laughably dreary "How Do I Live?"-scored reunion between Nicolas Cage and family in _Con_Air_, the general lack of subtlety in _Armageddon_ (and, for that matter, other Bruckheimer productions) prevent the conclusion, which is to supposed to be a profoundly moving, from completely convincing; the "human drama" comes off every bit as calculated as the effects. Although two films are quite different, in the end the question will always be "Is _Armageddon_ better than _Deep_Impact_?" For me, it's pretty much a draw, but one that can be decided depending on what it is one wants to see. If it's drama, _Deep_Impact_; if it's action, _Armageddon_. I'd venture to guess that it's the latter quality most moviegoers would go for, and, consequently, the box office answer to the question would be an emphatic yes. IN BRIEF Out of Sight (R) *** 1/2 Chemistry between romantic leads can make or break a film, and never in recent memory has it more "made" a film than in Steven Soderbergh's witty, slick, sexy adaptation of Elmore Leonard's novel. _Out_of_Sight_ jumps back and forth in time to tell the twisting tale of suave bank robber Jack Foley (George Clooney, rebounding well after his disastrous turn as the Caped Crusader), out to make one big score after escaping from prison; hot on his trail--and hot _for_ him--is tough U.S. Marshal Karen Sisco (the ever-sultry Jennifer Lopez), who falls hard for Jack's charms after being briefly locked in a trunk with him during his prison break. Although _Out_of_Sight_'s intricately structured plot requires the audience's undivided attention, Soderbergh and screenwriter Scott Frank (who also adapted Leonard's _Get_Shorty_) are less concerned with story than they are dialogue and the quirky characters that deliver it, and the film offers a wide array of memorable personalities, such as Jack's collaborators in the planned big heist: stoner Glenn (Steve Zahn); the menacing Maurice, a.k.a. Snoopy (Don Cheadle); his clumsy bodyguard White Boy Bob (Keith Loneker); and Jack's partner Buddy (Ving Rhames). Most memorable of all, though, is the central duo of Jack and Karen, who are both acutely aware of the danger of their mutual attraction yet are completely powerless to resist the thrill. The impossibly glamorous and charismatic pair of Clooney and Lopez absolutely sizzle from their first moment together; the soulful, smoldering gazes they lay upon each other are sexier than any explicit scene could ever be. It is their effortless rapport that carries the film and jumpstarts its sometimes-flagging energy. IN CURRENT RELEASE (full reviews of the following in past MRs and at the listed URLs) - -Bulworth (R) *** <MR#144, 5/29/98> http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt34.html#bulworth - -Can't Hardly Wait (PG-13) ** <MR#146, 6/11/98> http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt35.html#wait - -Deep Impact (PG-13) *** <MR#141, 5/14/98> http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt33.html#impact - -Dirty Work (PG-13) * <MR#147, 6/17/98> http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt35.html#dirty - -Doctor Dolittle (PG-13) ** <MR#148, 6/16/98> http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt36.html#dolittle - -Godzilla (PG-13) ** <MR#143, 5/19/98> http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt34.html#godzilla - -Gone with the Wind (G) **** <MR#147, 6/17/98> http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt35.html#gwtw - -Hav Plenty (R) ** 1/2 <MR#148, 6/26/98> http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt36.html#hav - -Hope Floats (PG-13) ** <MR#145, 6/4/98> http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt35.html#hope - -The Horse Whisperer (PG-13) * 1/2 <MR#142, 5/14/98> http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt34.html#horse - -The Last Days of Disco (R) *** <MR#145, 6/4/98> http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt35.html#disco - -Mulan (G) **** <MR#147, 6/17/98> http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt35.html#mulan - -The Opposite of Sex (R) *** 1/2 <MR#144, 5/29/98> http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt34.html#sex - -A Perfect Murder (R) ** 1/2 <MR#145, 6/4/98> http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt35.html#murder - -Six Days, Seven Nights (PG-13) *** <MR#146, 6/11/98> http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt35.html#67 - -The Spanish Prisoner (R) *** 1/2 <MR#137, 4/10/98> http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt31.html#prisoner - -Titanic (PG-13) **** <MR#121, 12/10/97> http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt26.html#titanic - -The Truman Show (PG) *** 1/2 <MR#145, 6/4/98> http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt35.html#truman - -The X-Files (PG-13) *** 1/2 <MR#147, 6/17/98> http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt35.html#x FUTURE FILMS - -Billy's Hollywood Screen Kiss (R) *** <MR#148, 6/26/98> http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt36.html#billy (July 24) O N T H E H O R I Z O N WEDNESDAY Armageddon (PG-13) *** <see above review> The second of this summer's "the sky is falling" movies is this reasonably exciting yarn about an asteroid on a collision course with Earth. Bruce Willis, Billy Bob Thornton, Ben Affleck, and Liv Tyler head the ensemble for director Michael Bay and producer Jerry Bruckheimer. ~~~ =>V I D E O<= N E W T H I S W E E K Amistad (R) ** <full review in MR#120, 12/5/97; and at http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt26.html#amistad> A number of critics went inexplicably gaga over Steven Spielberg's overblown, underdrawn docudrama about the legendary 1839 slave ship revolt. A terrific, unjustly Oscar-snubbed performance by Djimon Hounsou as the leader of the revolt--not Sir Anthony Hopkins's Academy nominated, over-the-top-and-in-the-parking-lot turn as John Quincy Adams--that carries the well-meaning but distant film. (DreamWorks) Half Baked (R) no stars <full review in MR#127, 1/22/98; and at http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt28.html#halfbaked> Tiresome, unfunny lowbrow comedy in which a group of potheads try to raise bail money for one of their "buds." Dave Chappelle stars. (Universal Studios Home Video) No Looking Back (R) ** <full review in MR#133, 3/5/98; and at http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt29.html#nolooking> Indie comedy writer-director-star Edward Burns took a wrongheaded turn to drama in this slow, predictable, thoroughly uninvolving tale of a small-town waitress (Lauren Holly) torn between her fiance (Jon Bon Jovi, whose surprisingly strong performance is the film's best asset) and the recently returned love of her life (Burns), who left town years before. (PolyGram Video) Police Story (PG-13) **** <full review in MR#52, 8/1/96; and at http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt9.html#policestory> The Jackie Chan reissue parade continues with the first, and best, installment of his popular action comedy series, the third (_Supercop_) and fourth (_First_Strike_) of which saw stateside theatrical release. In this fast, funny, exciting lark, Chan's intrepid cop must protect a gangster's moll (Brigitte Lin), which creates trouble in his relationship with his girlfriend (Maggie Cheung). (New Line Home Video) The Replacement Killers (R) *** <full review in MR#129, 2/5/98; and at http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt28.html#replacement> Hong Kong action legend Chow Yun-Fat made a disappointing American debut in Antoine Fuqua's stylish, fairly entertaining, if by-the-numbers shoot-'em-up in which he plays a hitman who teams with an expert forger (Mira Sorvino, looking very comfortable in as an action heroine) to take on some baddies. (Columbia TriStar Home Video) Wag the Dog (R) **** <full review in MR#124, 1/5/98; and at http://www.godamongdirectors.com/mrbrown/movierpt27.html#wag> Barry Levinson directed this smart, often hilarious satire in which a Washington spin doctor (Robert DeNiro) and a Hollywood producer (Dustin Hoffman) stage a mock war with Albania as a public diversion from a presidential sex scandal. (New Line Home Video) A L S O N E W T H I S W E E K Ma Vie en Rose (R) The winner of this year's Golden Globe for Best Foreign Language film is a Belgian drama about a young boy who is convinced that he is a girl trapped in a male body. (Columbia TriStar Home Video) This World, Then the Fireworks (R) Billy Zane and Gina Gershon play incestuous siblings in this noir thriller based on the Jim Thompson novel. Sheryl Lee co-stars. (Orion Home Video) ~~~ =>N E X T W E E K<= The 150th issue (has it really been _that_ long?), with more reviews, including: - -Lethal Weapon 4 - -Small Soldiers 'til then... __________________________________________________________ Michael Dequina Chat Forum Host, The Official Michael Jordan Web Site http://jordan.sportsline.com mj23@michaeljordanfan.com michael_jordan@geocities.com | mrbrown@ucla.edu >My personal WWW sites< Mr. Brown's Movie Site: http://welcome.to/mrbrown Michael Jordan Beyond the Court: http://fly.to/michaeljordan A Michael Jordan Fan's Heartbreak: http://fly.to/mj23 Personal Page: http://welcome.to/w3md >Other WWW sites I work on< CompuServe Hollywood Hotline: http://www.HollywoodHotline.com Albany Online: http://www.AlbanyOnline.com Eyepiece Network: http://www.eyepiece.com "Oliver Stone doesn't know shit about basketball." - --Michael Jordan, on why he refused to work with the director on a hoops-themed Nike commercial CONGRATULATIONS MICHAEL & THE BULLS! __________________________________________________________ [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:21:26 -0500 From: "Tonya " <scoobygirl@bedford.heartland.net> Subject: Re: [MV] films that worthing seeing There are so many good movies out there to pick from and everyone is going to have a different opinion. I know most people won't agree with me about my FAVORITE movie pick, because a lot of people hated it. My pick is Romeo and Juliet (the newest version). I loved it, the words are so beautiful, and romantic. The actors were picked so well. Claire Danes was such a good Juliet. The way she can use her talent to bring out all the emotions to do the role justice was so brilliant and impressive. Leonardo DiCaprio captured to stero-type Romeo. Gorgeous, sincere, and poetically correct. He fit the part well too. There are many actors that would have made a good Romeo, but he made a great one. The soundtracks were brillant too. The music was so beautiful, it was hip and current, it fit the movie very well by not being old-age-type, since the new version was made to be an update to the original classic. I could go on and on about this wonderful, beautiful movie, but I shall now suggest a couple other movies on a more low-key manner. Other suggests: Set It Off Fear Gattaca Mallrats ( I know this on is bizarre to like, but it is a total laugh-fest!) Psycho (hey it's a all-time classic) What's Eating Gilbert Grape Inventing the Abbotts (I'll think of more later) - -Tonya scoobygirl@bedford.heartland.net [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:17:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Vi L On {64539} <vlo@slpyjs.msd.ray.com> Subject: [MV] Deep Impact vs Armageddon Which is better? I saw DeepI. and I think I'm about to see Arm. this weekend. These 2 movies seems have the same story line. rock coming to earth. send some people up to the rock, and drill a bomb. try to blow it up but fails. some part of the rock hits the earth. ....end. can someone explain the difference in these 2 movies? - -Vi [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 08:28:45 -0400 From: ryana@allensysgroup.com (Ryan Allen) Subject: Re: [MV] films that worthing seeing (The Abyss) At 05:34 PM 7/1/98 -0700, you wrote: >How about telling us how it *really* is supposed to end. I thought the >ending was corny too, until I gave it deeper thought, because no one in >their right mind would have chosen its surface meaning. We are talking >about what he says, right? First to Chris: I'm glad you got to see the uncut version (albeit interrupted by commercials). It makes for a totally different film. When Cameron released it, he wasn't given the go-ahead for a three hour movie (in fact it wasn't until Titanic that he got THAT green light) so in order to cut back on the length of the movie, Fox forced the cut to under 2.5 hours. The result was the cutting of the whole sub-plot of the being on the ocean floor, and how we exist because they like us and they had "a one way trip." In addition, much of the friendship plot was cut too. In the uncut version there is more interaction between the characters (when they begin towing the rig, the group beings singing) that makes them more personable. Thankfully I bought the special edition, but it would be great to see it rereleased in theaters, with Dolby Surround or SDDS!! Now to Anita: The plot: **CAUTION SPOLIERS** It's not only how the movie ends that makes it special, it is the addition throughout the entire film that makes it special. During the movie, there are small editions of interactions between the crew as they watch the SUB-PLOT that is not even in the film. As the U.S. and Russia near blow about nuclear threats, there are a number of newscasts that detail buildup of nuclear weapons off the coast of Florida, wrecks between US and Russia cruisers, news interviews with americans about the coming of the end, and more! As the movie progresses, background information is learned about all their relationships that help us understand the characters better. When Bud saves the day and is rescued by the NTI, the conversation between takes on a whole other meaning. When they are showing him scenes from TV he begins to understand that they have been here a while and they are beginning to get tired and scared that we are an increasingly violent society. There are a number of "timeless" horror images (like nuclear explosions, the point blank killing in Nam) to convey this image. At this point, the NTIs being to raise HUGE tidal waves all over the globe!!! The special effects (for 1989) are incredible and are still great today. Think of the tidal waves from Deep Impact EXCEPT they stop before crushing the land all over the globe. So the entire populace (who have been trying to escape nuclear destruction and water death for a while) are watching these 2 mile high waves just look at them. Then Bud converses with the NTIs and realizes that they are here for good and they don't want us to kill each other. (The "I love you Wife" and "Knew this was a one way trip" mean more here) Right before he returns to the surface, he sends a message to the rig crew. As we watch the waves fall back into the ocean, we realize the NTIs power, but also their kindness for not wiping our sorry asses off the planet! Then Bud sends a message back to the crew on the rig, not contained in the normal edition, and that was "They sent you a message, hope you got it." This sub crashing was a great backstory to the message of potential destruction and the world coming together to save itself. Trouble is, Fox focused on the sub plot (no pun intended) and removed the message - which I think - was the movie! It predated this whole "world save itself" plot line (seen in ID4, Deep Impact, Armaggedon, and numerous other films) by years. So I hope that helps answer your questions. Cheers, Ryan Allen Internet Specialist Allen Systems Group http://www.asg.com ## Hurricane Season is Here! ## ## Please visit my Personal Page ## ## http://www.gate.net/~airwolf ## [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ End of movies-digest V2 #47 *************************** [ To quit the movies-digest mailing list (big mistake), send the message ] [ "unsubscribe movies-digest" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ]