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movies-digest          Thursday, May 28 1998          Volume 02 : Number 021



Re: [MV] Leo Dicaprio
Re: [MV] English Patient
[MV] Question
Re: [MV] Question
RE: [MV] Question
Re: [MV] English Patient
Re: [MV] English Patient
Re: [MV] Question
Re: [MV] Question
Re: [MV] English Patient -Reply
RE: [MV] Leo Dicaprio
Re: [MV] Titanic
Re: [MV] Question
Re: [MV] the new "Godzilla" -Reply
Re: [MV] English Patient -Reply
RE: [MV] Leo Dicaprio
[MV] The Fifth Element
Re: [MV] Question
[MV] Bulworth review

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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 11:28:15 -0500
From: Diane Christy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Leo Dicaprio

On 5/26/98, 9:49 PM -0500, GARY ZEIG said so nicely:
>Word is, Leo will earn 21 million to play a rapist/serial killer in his
>next movie "American Psycho." While this may be a great movie, I think this
>move is career suicide for him. This movie undoubtedly will show he is a
>great actor, however, it will tarnish his teen idol image beyond repair.
>And let's face it: Leo's biggest fans are teen girls.
>So it's gonna be real interesting to see how the public reacts  to this
>film, and whether Leo's popularity increases or wanes.

The movie's got a great director though (if I'm not mistaken).  Gus Van
Sant is wonderful.  I think DiCaprio could stand to be away from the
teenage girls for a while.  I think his best performance (which no teenage
girl would fawn over) was Arnie is WHAT'S EATING GILBERT GRAPE?.  I also
think he should have gotten the Academy Award for this role.  I think he is
really gifted.  Please, please, get him away from the teenage roles and let
him be an actor!!  I'm not saying that AMERICAN PSYCHO will do this for
him, but with Van Sant as the director, I'm looking foward to seeing this
film!
~~~~~
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 11:30:02 -0500
From: Diane Christy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] English Patient

On 5/27/98, 7:54 AM -0500, ABYRNE.IE.ORACLE.COM said so nicely:
>Speaking of which, I have been looking for the Soundtrack
>for
>fear of a black hat for a few years, with no success.Can anyone help me out.
>If so I will be deeply indebtted to you for life!

Look for it at CD Now.

Go to http://www.cdnow.com/
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 20:46:01 +0200
From: "Branimir Piskor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Question

Hi guys
I subscribed recently on this list. I have one question. Why are you talking
only about English patient and Titanic? those movies are not so hot new.
Can someone tell me something about  movie The game?

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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 14:18:21 -0500
From: Diane Christy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Question

On 5/27/98, 1:46 PM -0500, Branimir Piskor said so nicely:
>Hi guys
>I subscribed recently on this list. I have one question. Why are you talking
>only about English patient and Titanic? those movies are not so hot new.
>Can someone tell me something about  movie The game?

It was entertaining.  A very interesting concept.  A bit much to believe,
but fun to watch and figure out.

What I understood about the list was that it was a "movie" list.  Any movie
can be discussed.  Even BIRTH OF A NATION (made in 1915) if that's what I
wanted to talk about.  Isn't that right?
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 13:24:21 -0600
From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Question

On Wednesday, May 27, 1998 1:18 PM, Diane Christy [SMTP:[e-mail]] wrote:
> What I understood about the list was that it was a "movie" list.  Any movie
> can be discussed.  Even BIRTH OF A NATION (made in 1915) if that's what I
> wanted to talk about.  Isn't that right?

Bingo!

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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 13:01:24 PDT
From: "Chris Culligan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] English Patient

The movie UNFORGIVEN seemed to be a controversial choice for best
picture from the very beginning.  I absolutly loved it the first time I
saw it and I still do.

Who knows Westerns better then Clint Eastwood and who better to do a
re-write of the traditional western then (a great director, IMHO) Clint
Eastwood.  The scene were the dying cowboy that Clint has just shot is
begging his friends to bring him water was masterful.  Not just the
typical bang-shoot-your dead western violence, but a realistic look at
what happens when you shoot someone. The message (and one that I think
should be stressed in more of todays movies) is that killing is not
pretty, or glamourous, and it doesn't make a hero out of the killer, no
matter what the reason for the killing.  It also had one of the best
lines in all of movie history when the young killer-for-hire wanaby says
of the cowboys that Clints character has just killed, "They had it
comming", and Clint replys, "We all got it comming, son".  Also, notice
the blurred lines between the Good and Bad guys in this western, also a
huge departure from the traditional western.  Many critics changed thier
minds on Unforgiven upon watching it a second time.  I believe it
deserved best picture and all the rest of the praise it was given and
then some!

Just a differing opinion (I have to stick up for one of my personal
favorite movies!)

>
>UNFORGIVEN has got to be up there also as one of the most boring and
overly
>praised films of the decade.
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 16:40:14 -0400
From: GARY ZEIG <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] English Patient

>I must admit that I watched Trainspotting three times in four days.  I was
>captivated by the whole movie.  It has certainly become a cult classic.
>Did it deserve the praise and awards that it received?  It really depends
>on the viewer.  It was not a movie that transcended all age groups.  I am a
>23 year-old open-minded male.  My friend (of the same age) who is used to
>the Starship Troopers and Face Off (Both movies I liked as well) hated it.
>
>You get the same feelings from Trainspotting as you do from The Fifth
>Element.  The plot and the character builds are weak... but you are so
>fascinated by everything else in the movie... none of that really matters.
>
>On that note.... what did everyone think of The Fifth Element.
>
>Tom O'Neil
>
>I for one loved it, but only because Milla Jovovich as LeeLoo was super.
As I said before, I felt she gave one of the best acting performances of
the year.
I thought the rest of the movie was fairly mediocre. Although the special
effects
and the soundtrack were good as well. But that's just my opinion.

Gary
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>I disagree with you on this one. I thought Unforgiven and The English
>Patient were extremely well done and well deserving of their Oscar praise.
>One of the most overpraised movies I have seen has got to be Trainspotting.
>I heard nothing but positive reviews from the critics about this movie, but
>after watching it I can honestly say I think it is one of the worst movies
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 17:55:57 -0500
From: "Tom J. O'Neil"<[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Question

To be perfectly honest.  I cannot tell you much about The Game with Michael
Douglas.  All I can say is that is was a great movie.  Anything (Plot,
Characters,...) I say about the movie would give parts of it away.  It is a
movie you can only watch once but it is worth it.  I would recommend this
movie to anyone.  There aren't many movies where I walk out sweating.






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Hi guys
I subscribed recently on this list. I have one question. Why are you
talking
only about English patient and Titanic? those movies are not so hot new.
Can someone tell me something about  movie The game?
Branimir Piskor
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 21:59:58 cet
From: "greuel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Question

> Hi guys
> I subscribed recently on this list. I have one question. Why are you talking
> only about English patient and Titanic? those movies are not so hot new.
> Can someone tell me something about  movie The game?

You mean there have been other films than Titanic and English
Patient?

The Game. I thought it was a pretty good one, a bit predictable in
its inpredictability and yes, a bit hard to believe at times but
that's nothing unusual for Hwood. It was fast and gripping and you
have to be quick to keep up with the plot.

It's a interesting deal with the devil plot, so definetely worth
watching

And now back to Titanic.

thomas



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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 18:50:35 -0500
From: "Tonya!!!  =)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] English Patient -Reply

I really liked your message, Diane. Finally someone that says something
that isn't totally one-sided!

- -Tonya

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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 18:59:31 -0500
From: "Richard J. Doyle" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Leo Dicaprio

While I am a fan of almost all of Van Sant's work, I must say "Even Cowgirls
Get the Blues".  This was his last book adaptation.  My hatred of this movie
knows no bounds.

Richard J. Doyle
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To:    [e-mail]
Subject:    Re: [MV] Leo Dicaprio

On 5/26/98, 9:49 PM -0500, GARY ZEIG said so nicely:
>Word is, Leo will earn 21 million to play a rapist/serial killer in his
>next movie "American Psycho." While this may be a great movie, I think this
>move is career suicide for him. This movie undoubtedly will show he is a
>great actor, however, it will tarnish his teen idol image beyond repair.
>And let's face it: Leo's biggest fans are teen girls.
>So it's gonna be real interesting to see how the public reacts  to this
>film, and whether Leo's popularity increases or wanes.

The movie's got a great director though (if I'm not mistaken).  Gus Van
Sant is wonderful.  I think DiCaprio could stand to be away from the
teenage girls for a while.  I think his best performance (which no teenage
girl would fawn over) was Arnie is WHAT'S EATING GILBERT GRAPE?.  I also
think he should have gotten the Academy Award for this role.  I think he is
really gifted.  Please, please, get him away from the teenage roles and let
him be an actor!!  I'm not saying that AMERICAN PSYCHO will do this for
him, but with Van Sant as the director, I'm looking foward to seeing this
film!
~~~~~
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Jefferson, LA
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 19:11:26 -0500
From: "Tonya!!!  =)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Titanic

Although I believe you have a right to your own opinion, I disagree  with
you completely!  Titanic was clearly NOT a "made for McDonalds" movie.  You
can tell that simply by how much money it has made.

Leonardo DiCaprio was absolutely brilliant in this film. He delivered an
excellent performance. He presented comedy, romance, and drama.   I think
he should have gotten an Oscar nomination, and he should have won it.
Kate Wilslet did a good job too, but she didn't have to do some of the
emotional thrusts that Leo had too. I'm not saying that she was
un-emotional in the movie, because she was, but hey she survived the
'unsinkable ship'.

This was a "true romance", in the sense that Jack (Leo) made
life-threatening sacrifices.  So did Rose (Kate) ,like the part where she
jumps back on the ship. That showed true love.

Titanic had its faults, but those faults were very few.  I think it is one
of the best movies ever made!

- -Tonya

If you want a really romantic film, check out Romeo & Juliet (the newer
version).  The words are beautiful by themselves! Although this movie
didn't get appraised as much as other romantic films, it certainly is a
solid and timeless  story line with TRUE and ABSOLUTE love.

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> From: Tom J. O'Neil <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: [MV] Titanic
> Date: Tuesday, May 26, 1998 8:00 PM
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> Am I the only person who did not like Titanic?  I could not stand
watching
> the acting of the "Brad Pitt wanna-be" and the young "Gillian Anderson"
> during the suicide sequence.  "If you jump, I jump because I'm involved
> now."  Leonardo was not convincing during that part (a key sequence in
the
> movie) and he never convinced me of being anything other than a rich
brat.
> He even seemed more prissy than Kate.  I guess when I look for a romantic
> flick... I either look for sappy (True Romance) or drama (English
Patient)
> not a made for McDonalds movie.
>
> Of course... who am I to shoot down a kazillion dollar film.
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> Thomas O'Neil
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> >> L.A. Confidential was the best of last year.
> >
> >I know I'll get a lot of responses for this: but how about Titanic?
>   Loved Titanic, thought it was a great movie but LA Confidential was
> better.
>   Both were great, just one better.
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 19:16:19 -0500
From: "Tonya!!!  =)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Question

The Game is a really good movie.  I rented it with a friend and we both
loved it. I only watched it once, because it was so 'roller coaster-ish'.
It isn't a film where you can watch it again right after you've watched it
for the first time. It really is a fast movie, it takes your breathe away.
It is a little hard to believe, but interesting in the sense that you can
think that what happends MIGHT or COULD happen in real life.  I give this
movie 4 stars (out of 4)!

- -Tonya

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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 18:32:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: grasshopper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] the new "Godzilla" -Reply

one comment I want to make about Godzilla as a character: it seemed to me
that he/she/it was shown as an animal- neither good nor bad, but an animal
that just happened to be too large for the human race to deal with.

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On Tue, 26 May 1998, Bruce Bridges wrote:

> I have a feeling that Godzilla is going to have a lot of wildly
> varying opinions.  Let me just say that I think that it is one of the
> worst movies I have ever seen.
>
> I'm not using hyperbole to make a point but honestly felt that it was
> a godawful, crummy and pointless movie.  As someone mentioned earlier,
> Godzilla had no personality.  Were we supposed to root for Godzilla or
> sypathize with it?  You couldn't tell from the film.
>
> I have to say that I have not enjoyed a single Emerich directed film
> yet (why do I keep going?  Even I don't know.)  but Godzilla is by
> far his worst yet.  And who is that woman who evidently has not
> completed her intro to acting classes?  There are so many things to
> complain about but the bottom line is that it was void of camp or
> humor but at the same time did not make any effort to follow any
> logic.  If you want to make an intense monster movie you can't have
> characters making idiotic oneliners while being eaten by the lizard.
> I have a feeling that this film was put into production before a
> script was ready and they simply pieced it together as they went
> along.  Thier reasoning was probably that this is an event movie and
> it didn't really matter as long as Godzilla looked good.  And you
> know what?  They failed on that as well!  Even the design of Godzilla
> was a huge mistake.  It looked like a lizard crossed with one of the
> Alien monsters.  I was going to list a series of logical points but I
> don't have the energy in these tired old fingers.
>
> The weekend boxoffice is about half of what Sony was hoping for.
> Sure they will put on a good face but I think this movie is going to
> tank ultimately.  OK when I say tank I mean in the case of such a
> blockbuster I think it will be lucky to break $200 million.  6 months
> ago people had reason to believe that it would be second only to
> Titantic.
>
> What was the point of even using the name except to cash in on the
> existing franchise?  If there is a sequel they should just give $100
> million to TOHO and allow them to make a big budget version of the
> campy and lovable Godzilla that has succeeded for so many years.
>
> BTW, I wasn't impressed by ANYTHING in the film.  I've seen F/X that
> are far more impressive already.  The bar has been raised and these
> guys didn't reach it.
>
> This weekend I also saw what I thought was a great film.  "The
> Opposite of Sex" stars a growing Christina Ricci as one of the most
> dispicable lead characters I've ever seen in a film and is absolutely
> hilarious.  It is a very black comedy and gets its humor from a lot of
> touchy subjects but it is ultimately quite intelligent and will
> probably appeal to those she attacks the most. Its playing at the art
> houses here so I don't know how available it will be elsewhere but
> make sure you catch it on video.
>
> bye,
> bb
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 22:59:57 -0500
From: Diane Christy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] English Patient -Reply

On 5/27/98, 6:50 PM -0500, Tonya!!!  =) said so nicely:
>I really liked your message, Diane. Finally someone that says something
>that isn't totally one-sided!

Thanks.  Your message made me laugh.  Probably because I know EXACTLY what
you're talking about.  It just seems to be in our culture that if one thing
is right, the other is totally wrong and I think that's a mistake.  Just an
observation!
~~~~~
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 23:02:21 -0500
From: Diane Christy <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [MV] Leo Dicaprio

On 5/27/98, 6:59 PM -0500, Richard J. Doyle said so nicely:
>While I am a fan of almost all of Van Sant's work, I must say "Even Cowgirls
>Get the Blues".  This was his last book adaptation.  My hatred of this movie
>knows no bounds.

I must say that I think I was mistaken.  I had heard that they were making
a re-make of PSYCHO.  I thought AMERICAN PSYCHO was the re-make.  I know
that Van Sant is directing the re-make of PSYCHO.  My husband told me
tonight that AMERICAN PSYCHO is not the same thing.  He said it's based on
a novel written in 1991.  In that case, I don't know who is directing or
anything else about the film.
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 01:35:37 -0400
From: Mel Eperthener <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] The Fifth Element

At 07.19 AM 27/05/98 -0500, Tom J. O'Neil wrote:
>On that note.... what did everyone think of The Fifth Element.
>

Fascinating.  I thought it was one of the best movies to be made, that did
not win any awards.  (Another recent one was Cop Land).

Then again, I am a huge Luc Besson fan.  I could watch La Femme Nikita
anytime.  (and because of this, cannot stand Point of No Return).  The
Professional (released outside of North America as Leon) was another classic.

Good question for the list.  What do you think about Hollywood ripping off
other countries movies??  (You can tell my thoughts by the way that I
worded that.  Don't let that colour your opinion.  I'd like to see someone
that can defend this practice)>  I mean, To Wong Foo was such a blatent
rip-off of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert.  Waterworld was almost scene for
scene The Road Warrior.  (Replace sand for water, and you have the kid, the
fort, the plane, the fight for fuel, just about everything).  Those are my
Big Three, although I have come across others.

Any comments??

Regards,

- --Mel


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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 07:18:41 -0500
From: "Tom J. O'Neil"<[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [MV] Question

The Game with Michael Douglas was one of the best movies I have watched in
a long time.  Unfortunately, the plot is so mysterious and intense that if
I told you anything about it... I might give something away.  But believe
me... I walked out of that movie with a sweat.

Tom O'Neil




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Hi guys
I subscribed recently on this list. I have one question. Why are you
talking
only about English patient and Titanic? those movies are not so hot new.
Can someone tell me something about  movie The game?
Branimir Piskor
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 20:19:29 -0700
From: Jason Cormier <[e-mail]>
Subject: [MV] Bulworth review

Not too bad of a movie actually.  Kinda slow in the middle but was fairly
entertaining and also slightly thought provoking.  Basically a senator
wants himself dead by the end of the weekend so he has hired himself a
hitman to do the job - he just doesn't know when.  This weekend also
happens to be the election weekend and he is always on the go to different
functions and events.  With his new found dislike for life - he tires of
the speeches and starts telling it like it is - which is offensive at first
- - but then people begin to understand the truths that he speaks.  I enjoyed
it - but there were a lot of racial stereotypes in it - but that was
something of the point that they were going for...I geuss I'd give 'er a
72%.  See it if you like politics or Warren Beatty (I geuss!)

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