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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:07:41 EDT
From: Insrtbrain@aol.com
Subject: (mobility) New track?
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I was perusing the tracklisting for the new DJ Spooky and track one is called
"Sound" by our boy Moby. Is this new? Old? Misprint?
ANyone?
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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:00:43 -0600
From: "Blanco, Ruben" <rablanco@utep.edu>
Subject: (mobility) P.N.K. = the anonymous Imbecile
To: P.N.K. <stationxxx@mail.ru>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Words can't explain...
Your letter to the Mobility Digest is not appreciated.
I am sorry but do yourself a favor and get off of this list.
You will not inject your hatred, and UNEDUCATED OPINION into this forum, how
dare you write lies and untruths into our music forum.
God bless the innocent who have lost their lives globally.
Terrorists are anonymous cowards that the world will not tollerate anymore.
P.N.K. consider yourself reported to the USA FBI wherever you are.
Who do you think you are? You are nobody and your ignorant and sterile words
are insignificant.
Ruben B.
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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:05:10 -0500
From: John Turpin <justified_type@mac.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) New track?
At 8:07 PM -0400 on 9/18/01, you wrote:
>I was perusing the tracklisting for the new DJ Spooky and track one
>is called "Sound" by our boy Moby. Is this new? Old? Misprint?
_Ambient_.
:)
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"Next after theology I give to music the highest
place and the greatest honor." -- Martin Luther
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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:16:26 -0700
From: "Matt Olson" <matt@hollowgen.net>
Subject: Re: (mobility) P.N.K. = the anonymous Imbecile
Sorry, but as much as I disagree with this PNK guy, I can't say that you=
are in the right at all either.
1. I don't think you should speak for the whole list
2. He's obviously an educated person, that letter was well written. Just=
not something that many will readily agree with (including myself).
3. Why do you feel the need to ridiculously claim to have "reported" him=
to the FBI? What in god's name are you talking about?
4. Slamming someone for having an opposing point of view is probably just=
as ignorant as you believe that point of view to be.
This guy wasn't trying to tear into or flame other people, and regardless=
of what his opinion was, he doesn't deserve this kind of hate from you, or=
anyone else.
Thanks.
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On 09/18/2001 at 9:00 PM Blanco, Ruben wrote:
>To: P.N.K. <stationxxx@mail.ru>
>Subject: Re: (mobility) Words can't explain...
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>Your letter to the Mobility Digest is not appreciated.
>I am sorry but do yourself a favor and get off of this list.
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>You will not inject your hatred, and UNEDUCATED OPINION into this forum,
>how
>dare you write lies and untruths into our music forum.
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>God bless the innocent who have lost their lives globally.
>Terrorists are anonymous cowards that the world will not tollerate=
anymore.
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>P.N.K. consider yourself reported to the USA FBI wherever you are.
>Who do you think you are? You are nobody and your ignorant and sterile
>words
>are insignificant.
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>Ruben B.
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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 00:09:28 EDT
From: Bijou75@aol.com
Subject: Re: (mobility) P.N.K. = the anonymous Imbecile
Very well-put, Matt; I agree totally. As strongly as I disagree with what PNK wrote, and as flawed as his "logic" may have been, he's still entitled to his opinion. (Isn't that supposed to have been one of the founding principles of this country, anyway?) Besides, I didn't interpret his letter as a threat, but as more of a misguided attempt at prophecy. Certainly not anything warranting a report to law enforcement.
I know it's at a time like this when it's the most difficult to keep your head, but this is also when it's most crucial to do so, because so much is at stake. We MUST remember to examine our thoughts and bear in mind the effects of our actions on others. To do otherwise is to risk another tragedy.
Don't mean to preach... just my $02.
- --Carrie
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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:48:55 +0200
From: "Bart van Eijck" <j.vaneyck@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: (mobility) P.N.K. = the anonymous Imbecile
>P.N.K. consider yourself reported to the USA FBI wherever you are.
>Who do you think you are? You are nobody and your ignorant and sterile
words
>are insignificant.
Hehe, hey PNK, next time pick a mailing list with not so many Americans,
they get upset easy if you critisize their so beloved country. Although I
don't agree with a lot PNK said, there is a little piece of truth in there
Americans don't want to see, they are not Gods little pet country, they are
not better than others, and they are also not the innocent people they want
everybody to believe.
I hope this hunting for terrorists in the US doesn't turn out like the fox
hunt for communists last century... Although we Europeans and the US don't
have too different a culture, still they often creep me out.
And since Americans usually get upset really easily, here's the disclaimer:
- - This rant was not aimed at anybody in particular
- - Not all the people in the US are so narrow minded as I picture them, I
know!
- - Nobody's perfect, not even I :)
- - Comments or suggestions? Speak now or hold your silence forever..
Bart
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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:11:34 +0200
From: Sandra@fcl.it (Sandra Casadei, FCL)
Subject: Re: (mobility) P.N.K. = the anonymous Imbecile
>I hope this hunting for terrorists in the US doesn't turn out like the fox
>hunt for communists last century... Although we Europeans and the US don't
>have too different a culture, still they often creep me out.
bart, you're lucky enuff to live in the netherlands and probably you have no clue on what terrorism means. i'm sure people from spain, italy, uk, ireland and RUSSIA agree that terrorism is creepier than the american culture.
but still, what ruben just posted... that was way creepy, and yes, that macho attitude is pretty american. i know you've been through a tragedy, and remember that's not only an american tragedy, but your reaction, dear ruben, just looks like the ones we see on tv from the "enemy" countries you're about to bomb.
payback, that's the only way out. boy, this world disgusts me...
sorry for being this rude, today i'm really pissed off.
sandra
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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:13:36 -0500
From: Christopher Michael Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu>
Subject: Re: (mobility) P.N.K. = the anonymous Imbecile
> Americans don't want to see, they are not Gods little pet country, they
are
> not better than others, and they are also not the innocent people they
want
> everybody to believe.
Comon, now Bart, we Americans know that we are the world's heroes, USA ALL
THE WAY!!!
Actually, to tell the truth, the average american doesn't give a shit about
world affairs, much less think of their country in the way that
Non-Americans do. Most of us are apathetic or ignorant to what those in
power do to actually effect other countries, not that this is a good thing,
but when when you talk about how "America" harms other countries be clear on
who you are refering to, corporate and federal America.
Chris.
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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:58:35 EDT
From: Caetano78@aol.com
Subject: Re: (mobility) P.N.K. = the anonymous Imbecile
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> 4. Slamming someone for having an opposing point of view is probably just
> as ignorant as you believe that point of view to be.
>
This brings up a good point and I want to support it with a little
story/incident that happened with me about a year ago..
I remember going out with a certain someone to grab a bite to eat and we
began a discussion about politics and religion, which soon led to the topic
of abortion..
And she asked me whether I agreed with abortion and whether I think it should
be legal..
I, PERSONALLY, do not agree with abortion and think it is wrong...
She then proceeded to get up and leave, telling me that she cannot be friends
with someone who does not agree with abortion...
I was in shock..this was someone who I had spent a great deal of time with
for the past few months and she is going to walk out on me because we
disagree on a point of view..
She told me I was not open minded, yet, I was completely open about accepting
her views and her beliefs..
So then my question to her was: Who is the one that is closing up all those
around her who don't share the same views? And if she only took a minute to
sit down and listen to me and where I am coming from with my belief, she then
may understand that I am not some right-wing conservative planting boms in
abortion clinics...
This was all to let all of you know out there that I whole-heartedly agree
with Matt's Fourth point..we're only doing more damage by slamming people,
epecially when they are serious...I have exchanged e-mails with PNK privately
and honestly believe that he is a good human being...and he also feels for
those who have died...but he also has a belief which ,ay seem uncommon to
many of us and we should respect it...love, elie
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<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">4. Slamming someone for having an opposing point of view is probably just as ignorant as you believe that point of view to be.
<BR>This brings up a good point and I want to support it with a little story/incident that happened with me about a year ago..
<BR>I remember going out with a certain someone to grab a bite to eat and we began a discussion about politics and religion, which soon led to the topic of abortion..
<BR>And she asked me whether I agreed with abortion and whether I think it should be legal..
<BR>I, PERSONALLY, do not agree with abortion and think it is wrong...
<BR>She then proceeded to get up and leave, telling me that she cannot be friends with someone who does not agree with abortion...
<BR>I was in shock..this was someone who I had spent a great deal of time with for the past few months and she is going to walk out on me because we disagree on a point of view..
<BR>She told me I was not open minded, yet, I was completely open about accepting her views and her beliefs..
<BR>So then my question to her was: Who is the one that is closing up all those around her who don't share the same views? And if she only took a minute to sit down and listen to me and where I am coming from with my belief, she then may understand that I am not some right-wing conservative planting boms in abortion clinics...
<BR>This was all to let all of you know out there that I whole-heartedly agree with Matt's Fourth point..we're only doing more damage by slamming people, epecially when they are serious...I have exchanged e-mails with PNK privately and honestly believe that he is a good human being...and he also feels for those who have died...but he also has a belief which ,ay seem uncommon to many of us and we should respect it...love, elie</FONT></HTML>
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