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Re: (mobility) OT: New Order
Re: (mobility) OT: New Order
Re: (mobility) OT: New Order
(mobility) i need some songs please look into this :}
Re: (mobility) i need some songs please look into this :}
Re: (mobility) OT: New Order
Re: (mobility) i need some songs please look into this :}
(mobility) new order question
Re: (mobility) new order question

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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 20:16:05 +0100
From: "Mark" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) OT: New Order

The Bobby Gillespie/Prml Scrm collaboration on the new New Order album is
not the same one from the Prml Scrm LP (i.e. not "Shoot Speed Kill Light".

New Order have played lots of Joy Division osngs - they used to play about 5
or 6 of them instrumentally at soundchecks as early back as 1981. in 1983
they debuted their version of Love Will Tear Us Apart in Birmingham on the
anniversary of Ian's Death. in 1984 they also played Decades on the
anniversary of Ian's birthday. In 1985 they played She's Lost Control and
Atmosphere as a special Christmas Present for Rob Gretton, their manager.
In 1986-1987 they tended to played a JD song once every few months.

Then, on 16th July 1998, at the Manchester Apollo they unveiled their
versions of Isolation. Atmosphere, Heart And Soul, Love WIll tear Us Apart,
In A Lonely Place, and Ceremony, which have seemed fairly constant in the
sets since then. Which, incidentally, was the best gig I have EVER seen.

Boy I should go out more,

Mark



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From: "martinjames" <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:39 PM
Subject: (mobility) OT: New Order


> oh the mighty, mighty New Order. How jealous I am that they're playing in
> the US and not in the UK (apart from one secret gig in Liverpool). Their
new
> album is a work of genius. The collaboration with Bobby Gillespie could
have
> come from Primal Scream's Xtrmntr (if any of you don't own this album I
urge
> you to get one now) but with New Order's trademark beats, bass and
melodies.
>
> When Joy Division came to an end New Order did indeed say that they would
> never play JD material ever again. I was at a few of their earliest gigs
> (most notably the much bootlegged Reading Uni) and they played In a Lonely
> Place and Ceremony at this point. However I'm sure didn't play any JD
stuff
> until the tour immediately prior to the Manchester Arena and Alexander
> Palace shows a couple of years back. That tour was, I think, around
1994/5.
> Since then their drum'n'bass and techno versions of old JD tracks have
> become highlights of their sets.
>
> I may be wrong about this, but having seen them on at least one date of
> every UK tour since they started, I can only go on my own memory. And as
an
> old git, my memory ain't what it used to be! :-)
>
> Did any of you see Moby taking notes when New Order were on?
>
> Martin
>
>
>
>
>
>
> on 1/8/01 19:47, Mark at [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > Yeah, I don't know what peopel are moaning about... at least New Order
are
> > playing live and making records again.
> >
> > They have played somewhat erratically Joy Division songs throughout
their
> > entire career. I know they played Decades, She's lost Control
Atmosphere
> > and Love Will tear Us Apart in the 80's, and in the 90's they added
> > Isolation and Heart And Soul. They've also been playing Ceremony and In
A
> > Lonely Place for most of their lives.
> >
> > M
> >
>
>
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Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 11:53:43 +0100
From: martinjames <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) OT: New Order

Mark,
I bow to your superior knowledge. I hadn't realised that they'd played so
much JD material over the years. Somehow I missed it all when I saw them :(
Did you go to the Manchester gig with Underworld?

No, the Primal's collaboration is different. In fact its a lot better.

Do New Order/ Joy Division mean as much to other Mobility subscribers? The
Moby links are obvious, going much deeper than New Dawn Fades (I don't like
Moby's version at all - its too clumsy).

I'm off to listen to Perfect Kiss - total perfection.

Martin



on 2/8/01 20:16, Mark at [e-mail] wrote:

> The Bobby Gillespie/Prml Scrm collaboration on the new New Order album is
> not the same one from the Prml Scrm LP (i.e. not "Shoot Speed Kill Light".
>
> New Order have played lots of Joy Division osngs - they used to play about 5
> or 6 of them instrumentally at soundchecks as early back as 1981. in 1983
> they debuted their version of Love Will Tear Us Apart in Birmingham on the
> anniversary of Ian's Death. in 1984 they also played Decades on the
> anniversary of Ian's birthday. In 1985 they played She's Lost Control and
> Atmosphere as a special Christmas Present for Rob Gretton, their manager.
> In 1986-1987 they tended to played a JD song once every few months.
>
> Then, on 16th July 1998, at the Manchester Apollo they unveiled their
> versions of Isolation. Atmosphere, Heart And Soul, Love WIll tear Us Apart,
> In A Lonely Place, and Ceremony, which have seemed fairly constant in the
> sets since then. Which, incidentally, was the best gig I have EVER seen.
>
> Boy I should go out more,
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "martinjames" <[e-mail]>
> To: <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:39 PM
> Subject: (mobility) OT: New Order
>
>
>> oh the mighty, mighty New Order. How jealous I am that they're playing in
>> the US and not in the UK (apart from one secret gig in Liverpool). Their
> new
>> album is a work of genius. The collaboration with Bobby Gillespie could
> have
>> come from Primal Scream's Xtrmntr (if any of you don't own this album I
> urge
>> you to get one now) but with New Order's trademark beats, bass and
> melodies.
>>
>> When Joy Division came to an end New Order did indeed say that they would
>> never play JD material ever again. I was at a few of their earliest gigs
>> (most notably the much bootlegged Reading Uni) and they played In a Lonely
>> Place and Ceremony at this point. However I'm sure didn't play any JD
> stuff
>> until the tour immediately prior to the Manchester Arena and Alexander
>> Palace shows a couple of years back. That tour was, I think, around
> 1994/5.
>> Since then their drum'n'bass and techno versions of old JD tracks have
>> become highlights of their sets.
>>
>> I may be wrong about this, but having seen them on at least one date of
>> every UK tour since they started, I can only go on my own memory. And as
> an
>> old git, my memory ain't what it used to be! :-)
>>
>> Did any of you see Moby taking notes when New Order were on?
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> on 1/8/01 19:47, Mark at [e-mail] wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, I don't know what peopel are moaning about... at least New Order
> are
>>> playing live and making records again.
>>>
>>> They have played somewhat erratically Joy Division songs throughout
> their
>>> entire career. I know they played Decades, She's lost Control
> Atmosphere
>>> and Love Will tear Us Apart in the 80's, and in the 90's they added
>>> Isolation and Heart And Soul. They've also been playing Ceremony and In
> A
>>> Lonely Place for most of their lives.
>>>
>>> M
>>>
>>
>>
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Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 18:09:11 +0100
From: "Mark" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) OT: New Order

Superior? Nah, I'm just a bit of  a trainspotter. If I was ever asked to
name my top three bands I'm fairly sure New Order would be No.1 or 2. It
depends if I'm listening to them when I'm asked. The problem was they played
a JD song perhaps every few months, and in the strangest places (Wembley,
Amsterdam, New York, Birmingham, for example) because theya re quite
contrary buggers at best.

I saw the two gigs they did with Underworld. Amazing both bands. But then
again, I've seen a few (hundred) gigs and no.1 and no.2 will always be New
Order at Manchester in July 98, and at Reading the month after. (reading is
now out on DVD, so go buy!)

Mark


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "martinjames" <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: (mobility) OT: New Order


> Mark,
> I bow to your superior knowledge. I hadn't realised that they'd played so
> much JD material over the years. Somehow I missed it all when I saw them
:(
> Did you go to the Manchester gig with Underworld?
>
> No, the Primal's collaboration is different. In fact its a lot better.
>
> Do New Order/ Joy Division mean as much to other Mobility subscribers? The
> Moby links are obvious, going much deeper than New Dawn Fades (I don't
like
> Moby's version at all - its too clumsy).
>
> I'm off to listen to Perfect Kiss - total perfection.
>
> Martin
>
>
>
> on 2/8/01 20:16, Mark at [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > The Bobby Gillespie/Prml Scrm collaboration on the new New Order album
is
> > not the same one from the Prml Scrm LP (i.e. not "Shoot Speed Kill
Light".
> >
> > New Order have played lots of Joy Division osngs - they used to play
about 5
> > or 6 of them instrumentally at soundchecks as early back as 1981. in
1983
> > they debuted their version of Love Will Tear Us Apart in Birmingham on
the
> > anniversary of Ian's Death. in 1984 they also played Decades on the
> > anniversary of Ian's birthday. In 1985 they played She's Lost Control
and
> > Atmosphere as a special Christmas Present for Rob Gretton, their
manager.
> > In 1986-1987 they tended to played a JD song once every few months.
> >
> > Then, on 16th July 1998, at the Manchester Apollo they unveiled their
> > versions of Isolation. Atmosphere, Heart And Soul, Love WIll tear Us
Apart,
> > In A Lonely Place, and Ceremony, which have seemed fairly constant in
the
> > sets since then. Which, incidentally, was the best gig I have EVER seen.
> >
> > Boy I should go out more,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "martinjames" <[e-mail]>
> > To: <[e-mail]>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:39 PM
> > Subject: (mobility) OT: New Order
> >
> >
> >> oh the mighty, mighty New Order. How jealous I am that they're playing
in
> >> the US and not in the UK (apart from one secret gig in Liverpool).
Their
> > new
> >> album is a work of genius. The collaboration with Bobby Gillespie could
> > have
> >> come from Primal Scream's Xtrmntr (if any of you don't own this album I
> > urge
> >> you to get one now) but with New Order's trademark beats, bass and
> > melodies.
> >>
> >> When Joy Division came to an end New Order did indeed say that they
would
> >> never play JD material ever again. I was at a few of their earliest
gigs
> >> (most notably the much bootlegged Reading Uni) and they played In a
Lonely
> >> Place and Ceremony at this point. However I'm sure didn't play any JD
> > stuff
> >> until the tour immediately prior to the Manchester Arena and Alexander
> >> Palace shows a couple of years back. That tour was, I think, around
> > 1994/5.
> >> Since then their drum'n'bass and techno versions of old JD tracks have
> >> become highlights of their sets.
> >>
> >> I may be wrong about this, but having seen them on at least one date of
> >> every UK tour since they started, I can only go on my own memory. And
as
> > an
> >> old git, my memory ain't what it used to be! :-)
> >>
> >> Did any of you see Moby taking notes when New Order were on?
> >>
> >> Martin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> on 1/8/01 19:47, Mark at [e-mail] wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yeah, I don't know what peopel are moaning about... at least New Order
> > are
> >>> playing live and making records again.
> >>>
> >>> They have played somewhat erratically Joy Division songs throughout
> > their
> >>> entire career. I know they played Decades, She's lost Control
> > Atmosphere
> >>> and Love Will tear Us Apart in the 80's, and in the 90's they added
> >>> Isolation and Heart And Soul. They've also been playing Ceremony and
In
> > A
> >>> Lonely Place for most of their lives.
> >>>
> >>> M
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 23:32:00 +0200
From: "maMLUka" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) i need some songs please look into this :}

i need those songs in mp3 please
it's too rare i can't find them anywhere
i don't promote mp3s but i wanna hear em :}
Moby Walnut
Moby Every One Of My Problems
Moby In My Life
Dog Heaven
Reject

thx maMLUka moby fan!!



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Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:38:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: mark <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) i need some songs please look into this :}

okay, in my life can prolly be gotten from the normal us release of bring
back my happiness, lots of online stores still sell it, many of whome ship
worldwide. walnut's on the mute 2cd of animal rights, as is reject. every
one of my problems is on revolver remix 2. dog heaven's on end of
everything, or you can get the single for it. all of those are still
available from mute's online ordering system (also ships worldwide) last i
checked.
cheers,
    -mark

On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, maMLUka wrote:
> i need those songs in mp3 please
> it's too rare i can't find them anywhere
> i don't promote mp3s but i wanna hear em :}
> Moby Walnut
> Moby Every One Of My Problems
> Moby In My Life
> Dog Heaven
> Reject
>
> thx maMLUka moby fan!!
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:16:33 -0400
From: "Mike A7" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) OT: New Order

martinjames <[e-mail]> wrote:
> oh the mighty, mighty New Order. How jealous I am that they're playing in
> the US and not in the UK (apart from one secret gig in Liverpool). Their
new
> album is a work of genius.

Question for anyone who may know, maybe you Martin? Did Rollo from
Faithless produce anything on their new CD? He did the one track with them
on "The Beach" soundtrack and there were reports at the time he was going
to produce more tracks on their full length CD. As a Faithless/Rollo
collector just curious if I should track this down.

Thanks,
MikeA

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Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 17:00:03 +0200
From: "maMLUka" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) i need some songs please look into this :}

i don't have money to buy all those cds
- ----- Original Message -----
From: mark <[e-mail]>
To: _Mobility <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: (mobility) i need some songs please look into this :}


> okay, in my life can prolly be gotten from the normal us release of bring
> back my happiness, lots of online stores still sell it, many of whome ship
> worldwide. walnut's on the mute 2cd of animal rights, as is reject. every
> one of my problems is on revolver remix 2. dog heaven's on end of
> everything, or you can get the single for it. all of those are still
> available from mute's online ordering system (also ships worldwide) last i
> checked.
> cheers,
> -mark
>
> On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, maMLUka wrote:
> > i need those songs in mp3 please
> > it's too rare i can't find them anywhere
> > i don't promote mp3s but i wanna hear em :}
> > Moby Walnut
> > Moby Every One Of My Problems
> > Moby In My Life
> > Dog Heaven
> > Reject
> >
> > thx maMLUka moby fan!!
> >
> >
> >
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Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 17:00:58 +0200
From: "maMLUka" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) new order question

i wanna become a fan cuz i heard so much good stuff obut this group
can so0me1 recomand what are there best songs


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Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 15:02:19 +0100
From: "Mark" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) new order question

Head towards amazon.com or one of the napster alternatives and look for

Regret
Blue Monday
True Faith
Vanishing Point

they are fairly good places to start off at anyway.

Mark

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Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 4:00 PM
Subject: (mobility) new order question


> i wanna become a fan cuz i heard so much good stuff obut this group
> can so0me1 recomand what are there best songs
>
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