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mobility-digest       Friday, November 10 2000       Volume 03 : Number 382



(mobility) Moby for President 2004
(mobility) moby won some silly internet awards
(mobility) moby on phone on mtv
Re: (mobility) moby on phone on mtv
Re: (mobility) Fwd: Moby blasts Pearl Jam
Re: (mobility) moby on phone on mtv
Re: (mobility) What happened?
Re: (mobility) moby on phone on mtv
Re: (mobility) music-mag

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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 21:56:57 GMT
From: "Mr. Flewin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby for President 2004

Yes people, You read that right. I've decided to throw myself into the fray
and get Bizet with it and announce a solution.

If you're ready Moby, how about it?! Run for President! Voila! The problem
of a crappy president is eradicated, I'm pretty sure a good portion of your
fans will follow behind you, the country would become a better place...
Promotions? Play your array of utterly mindblowingly fantastic music during
a few of them. That'd get all the kids who just turned 18 into the voting
booths as well. You're the kind of person who would be able to reach to the
youth of today and tomorrow and still be able to connect on an adult level
as well without being branded as fake.

I must admit though, I am for Gore... oh eyah.. I'm a Canadian to boot!
Maybe Moby should run for Prime Minister of Canada? :) Hehehe

I think Moby as President would be cool... I mean sure... live shows would
unfortunately be few... but i am sure he'd attempt a few to keep it real
with the fans. After being sworn in, suddenly Bodyrock starts playing and
Parliament Hill gets on down with the groove :)

Okay... too much of an imagination :) It could happen though... anything is
possible...


                            Sincerely,
                                      K. Flewin
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:00:00 -0800 (PST)
From: _bjorkdoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby won some silly internet awards

http://adomatest.artistdirect.com/cgi-bin/index.html

in the electronic category, natch.  see?
best official site (which they have as mobyonline, not moby-online)
most talked about artist
favourite male artist

although some of their results are bogus.  :P
(bjork should have gotten sexiest female.  dj rap sucks.)

: sarah :
: i like this resonance :
: http://myheadphones.org :
: it elevates me :


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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:31:10 -0800
From: "chris" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby on phone on mtv

This choose or loose thing on tv today had a live call with moby on his
opinions about Nader
He said that Nader being in the elections was irresponsible, and that his
claims about the parties not being different are not true.  That basically
Nader screwed Gore and the Democrats.

If a vote for Nader was a vote for Bush, then how do you vote for Nader?
Moby wouldn't want such a choice I guess.

chris





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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:39:08 -0800
From: "Matt Olson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on phone on mtv

Oh boy, Moby does feel strongly on this issue.  I believe he's probably=
 just as pissed as all the other Gore supporters out there... and very well=
 may be saying some things that he doesn't exactly mean.  However, his=
 point could very well likely be that Nader should've known damn well he=
 wouldn't win, therefore, it was irresponsible to push so hard, especially=
 since he didn't even get the 5% to qualify his party.

Now, I don't really want to argue with anyone, I'm just saying that could=
 be a possibility, or a way it could be interpreted.

Thanks,

]V[ATTTT

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On 12/21/2000 at 7:31 PM chris wrote:

>This choose or loose thing on tv today had a live call with moby on his
>opinions about Nader
>He said that Nader being in the elections was irresponsible, and that his
>claims about the parties not being different are not true.  That basically
>Nader screwed Gore and the Democrats.
>
>If a vote for Nader was a vote for Bush, then how do you vote for Nader?
>Moby wouldn't want such a choice I guess.
>
>chris
>
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 21:52:22 -0800
From: "crowes3" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Fwd: Moby blasts Pearl Jam

Wow.  Your post is really informative.  I've thought for years that the 2
parties were not very different at all and lately, that corporations hold
all the power anyway.  Matt had plenty to say too.  Thanks guys.  About
getting into Moby-Online.  I have been trying to get the password as well
for about 4 times now.  They keep saying they will e-mail it but so far
nothing.  Help out there?  I'll try to find out too.  Anne
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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: (mobility) Fwd: Moby blasts Pearl Jam


>
> First of all, I tried to register for the forum at moby-online twice, but
> neither time did I receive my password, so I'm responding here in the
hopes
> that Moby will read this.
>
> >From: Elissa Brown <[e-mail]>
> >Wow, the media does really twist things... Moby never specifically
> >mentioned
> >Pearl Jam, or any other Nader supports by name, in his updates at
> >moby-online.com.
>
> They quote an interview in the article, not just moby-online postings. He
> said all the stars that endorsed Nader should "hang their heads in shame."
>
> "If Bush wins, I will follow Ralph Nader to the ends of the earth just to
> scream at him and pelt him with rotten tomatoes. If Nader had withdrawn
from
> the race, then Al Gore would be our president-elect."
>
> -Moby
>
> "If Bush is our next president, I hope Nader and his supporters will be
> happy as women start dying of back-alley abortions, and I hope that Nader
> and his supporters will jump for joy as our national parks become oil
> fields, and as we return to the 'good old days' of Reagan-style national
> debt, and as our public schools crumble, and as the working poor watch any
> dreams of prosperity just disappear as our inner cities become the burnt
out
> sh-t holes that they were under Reagan and poppa Bush. And I hope that the
> Green Party celebrates as, under Bush, any notion of corporate
environmental
> responsibility flies out the window."
>
> Wow. I think this calls for a list.
>
> 1. Abortion. Gore voted in favor of Anton Scalia and Clarence Thomas, the
> two most conservative justices on the Supreme Court.
>
> 2. Environment. The Clinton-Gore Administration failed to fulfill a
promise
> to shut down the WTI incinerator in East Liverpool, Ohio. It burns
hazardous
> waste and spews toxins into the neighboring communities. Also, Gore has
> permitted old-growth logging without any effort to alter the standing
> policies, and he also has pushed to have nuclear energy included as a
> renewable energy source which gives it Clean Fuel credits, instead of
> pursuing solar, waster, and wind forms of energy that are actually
renewable
> and do not create radioactive waste. He also backed off on the pesticide
and
> dioxin standards that he gave so much lip service to. They have allowed
> genetically modified food products to be sold without any form of labeling
> to the public.
>
> 3. Education. Both Bush and Gore have different plans for education
reform.
> Why do you think Gore's is good, and Bush's bad? Your crumbling schools
> comment sounds an awful lot like political catchphrase used to gain
support
> without actually examining the facts and figures of the actual problem.
>
> 4. Labor/working poor. Moby, The Clinton-Gore administration passed NAFTA
> and launched the WTO. They took minimal action to raise the minimum wage.
> They did not lift a finger to help organized labor and unions, which are
at
> their lowest membership in 40 years. They did nothing to repeal the
> Taft-Hartley Act, which restricts the formation of new unions. (which
> employees of corps like Wal-Mart and McDonald's sorely need) They
abolished
> welfare and called it "Reform".
>
> Joe Lieberman has spent his career fighting to limit corporate liability,
> when it should be expanded. It's because of Senators like him that
taxpayer
> pay for pollution cleanups instead of the perpetrating companies. It's
> because of Senators like him that it is so hard for citizens to sue
> insurance companies that bail out on them on technicalities and blatantly
> false "preexisting condition" clauses.
>
> So yes, Moby, you're right when you say if Bush gets elected that any
notion
> of corporate environmental responsibility will go out the window. But
that's
> all that will go, the notion, because that's all Gore and Lieberman have.
> After getting our vote they'll be back to the business as usual.
>
> They cannot run campaigns without huge bankrolls, mainly because their
> competition will also have big bucks. The cannot call the corporations to
> heel because they will lose their funding and hence their power. The
> two-party system funded by the same corporations has locked them both into
a
> symbiotic relationship, and so all they can offer us are pretty promises.
>
> Moby, you've been touring for two years. I think you've gotten all the
> pretty words and few of the realities. Do some research. The Democrats are
> morphing into Republicans, and they both pay heed to their backers in
order
> of contribution. Since funding has to come before votes, voters come in
> second to funders. Albert Gore Jr. and his party are not the voice of
> liberal America. They will do naught but toss us a crumb periodically.
>
> Steve
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 22:03:59 -0800
From: "crowes3" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on phone on mtv

Actually, the Nader factor had less impact on this election than all the
crazy screw-ups with the election process itself.  Electoral College has
always bothered me and anyone should be able to run for president if they
want to, even Richard Melville Hall!  Groovin.  Anne
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From: "Matt Olson" <[e-mail]>
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Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on phone on mtv


Oh boy, Moby does feel strongly on this issue.  I believe he's probably just
as pissed as all the other Gore supporters out there... and very well may be
saying some things that he doesn't exactly mean.  However, his point could
very well likely be that Nader should've known damn well he wouldn't win,
therefore, it was irresponsible to push so hard, especially since he didn't
even get the 5% to qualify his party.

Now, I don't really want to argue with anyone, I'm just saying that could be
a possibility, or a way it could be interpreted.

Thanks,

]V[ATTTT

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On 12/21/2000 at 7:31 PM chris wrote:

>This choose or loose thing on tv today had a live call with moby on his
>opinions about Nader
>He said that Nader being in the elections was irresponsible, and that his
>claims about the parties not being different are not true.  That basically
>Nader screwed Gore and the Democrats.
>
>If a vote for Nader was a vote for Bush, then how do you vote for Nader?
>Moby wouldn't want such a choice I guess.
>
>chris
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 22:13:51 -0800
From: "crowes3" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) What happened?

Its the concept of the blues:  when you are feeling bad, listen to the blues
("Why Does My Heart..." qualifies in this category, as do some others).
When your mood changes, change your Moby song!  I don't know how Moby feels
but I expect he experiences the full range of emotions and his music
reflects these.  Anne
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Subject: Re: (mobility) What happened?


> Yeah, that song  Why does my heart feel so bad is really sad, especially
> when it is raining out. Hope Moby really isn't so sad anymore.
>
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:09:40 -0800
From: "Matt Olson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on phone on mtv

Ahh, yes, however, for anyone who's in support of Gore, the Nader factor=
 did have a huge impact.  Just think... if those 96,000 votes in Florida=
 had not been for Nader, well, we know who would be very much ahead of that=
 boil-faced GWB.

- -Matt

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On 11/10/2000 at 10:03 PM crowes3 wrote:

>Actually, the Nader factor had less impact on this election than all the
>crazy screw-ups with the election process itself.  Electoral College has
>always bothered me and anyone should be able to run for president if they
>want to, even Richard Melville Hall!  Groovin.  Anne
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Matt Olson" <[e-mail]>
>To: <[e-mail]>
>Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 4:39 PM
>Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on phone on mtv
>
>
>Oh boy, Moby does feel strongly on this issue.  I believe he's probably=
 just
>as pissed as all the other Gore supporters out there... and very well may=
 be
>saying some things that he doesn't exactly mean.  However, his point could
>very well likely be that Nader should've known damn well he wouldn't win,
>therefore, it was irresponsible to push so hard, especially since he=
 didn't
>even get the 5% to qualify his party.
>
>Now, I don't really want to argue with anyone, I'm just saying that could=
 be
>a possibility, or a way it could be interpreted.
>
>Thanks,
>
>]V[ATTTT
>
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>On 12/21/2000 at 7:31 PM chris wrote:
>
>>This choose or loose thing on tv today had a live call with moby on his
>>opinions about Nader
>>He said that Nader being in the elections was irresponsible, and that his
>>claims about the parties not being different are not true.  That=
 basically
>>Nader screwed Gore and the Democrats.
>>
>>If a vote for Nader was a vote for Bush, then how do you vote for Nader?
>>Moby wouldn't want such a choice I guess.
>>
>>chris
>>
>>
>>
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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 23:34:52 -0800
From: "crowes3" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) music-mag

Emily:  I just tried-it's not your computeer, it's the site (at least I got
nothing from it).  Anne
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Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 2:41 PM
Subject: (mobility) music-mag


> http://music-mag.com/News/october/moby.htm
>
> My computer's doing funny things, and I've been trying
> to fix it, but it's being stubborn. I didn't get to
> read the article because the whole thing ran together.
> I read the first line, so I can't tell you anything I
> think about it.
>
>
> Emily
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