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mobility-digest        Thursday, June 22 2000        Volume 03 : Number 230



(mobility) OT:Male Fantasy
(mobility) OT: Childhood Memories/Male Fantasies
Re: (mobility) Japanese music lovers
Re: (mobility) Manson Quote
Re: (mobility)  - Metallica Remix
(mobility) early moby/touring moby questions
Re: (mobility) 800 songs?
(mobility) muzik mag
(mobility) New Voodoo Child rmx
Re: (mobility) New Voodoo Child rmx
(mobility) Fwd: Moby turns down Madonna
(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #229
(mobility) RE: mobility-digest V3 #224
Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #229
(mobility) moby turns down madonna!

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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:39:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brad Caviness <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) OT:Male Fantasy




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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:40:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brad Caviness <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) OT: Childhood Memories/Male Fantasies

Sorry for the bad paste a moment ago.

This has absolutely nothing to do with Moby in
any way shape or fashion, but it is so
unbelievably cool, I couldn't pass up sharing it
with you all.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=362127435&r=0&t=0

Now, does anyone have about $700,000 I can borrow?

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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 18:55:45 -0400
From: AJ Miyagi Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Japanese music lovers

Dragon Ash's song Grateful Days is really good. Unfortunetly, it is
their ONLY good song as the rest of their stuff ssucks. Their new single
is the biggest Beastie Boys rip off I have ever heard. Everyone should
check out Globe. If somoene can get me a good FTP program for MAC, I can
upload some MP3s to my site. Any recomendations?

Brotha Man, I am going to a bunch of places in Tokyo, but I wille be
hanging out constantly in Shibuya. It is my second home. And yea, there
is no other place in the world better than Shibuya for used CD shopping
(probably). Hopefuly I will get there before you... And I am climbing
Mt. Fuji again too, plus giong to Hong Kong (free plane tickets
everywhere! and business class too!) but anyway, I will be in Shibuya. I
lived in Nakameguro though, two stops away from Shibuya on the Toyoko
line.

Oh, and Xaq, to your Happy squeky Jpop question, try anyone basically,
but especially Morning Musume or Pucchi Moni or Any of those groups that
TSUNKU produces, but especially Morning Musume. Another new group,
Folder 5 might fit in too, as well as others. You'll love Morning Musme
- - Love Machine and Pucchi Moni - Chokotto Love. Check them out. Andm,
yea, I sent you the Underworld CD. Later.
AJ

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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 17:36:41 MDT
From: "Sml Mammal" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Manson Quote

Shirley Manson is awesome.  Good for her. I've always wanted the chance to
tell someone that.  :)

- -Tina
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 00:39:08 +0100 (BST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ross=20Hardy?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility)  - Metallica Remix

- --- [e-mail] wrote: > Thanx Ross for the
help.  I was able to get one of
> my friends to burn it for
> me off the computer, but i think i just may go out
> and buy the album anyway,
> as the end was cut off.  Thanx again!
> Erin


No problem Erin.

How do you mean cut off? Becuase it is intended to be
cut off.
The ending goes
"It hates you.
It hates you
it hates"
And then ends suddenly.
Just Moby having a laugh I think!
Chances are you probably have the full version!!!

See ya!
Ross

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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 18:03:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) early moby/touring moby questions

- --- mobility-digest
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> mobility-digest        Wednesday, June 21 2000
>  Volume 03 : Number 229
>
>
> Hi i'm Sarah, and i'm new to the list.

welcome!!!

  Now I'd
> like to get some of his earlier music, but I can't
> decide which to get,
> and i was wondering if some of you Moby-savvy guys
> would help me out and
> point out some of his better CD's.  I know they've
> all got to be awsome,
> but right now I can't afford to buy them all, and I
> don't want to get
> that new "best of" CD, cause that doesn't sound like
> a good
> representation of Moby, just commercialization.

WOW. see, even a recent convert to Moby can tell that
this stupid 'best of' thing is a dang sham!!! who the
hell does Elektra think they're kidding?!?!

As for a good Moby primer, well of course Everything
Is Wrong and Animal Rights are totally absolutely and
indubitably essential, so waste no time in getting
those (and if at all possible, try and find the 2cd
British versions of each, on Mute, altho they are
rare, especially the 2 cd EIW, but the Animal Rights
2cd is way better than the American version i think,
so try n get it....)

but anyway as for Moby's early techno stuff on
Instinct, i think the best way to go is Early
Underground. most others here will say the self titled
Moby or Rare: B-Sides (which comes with an hour of Go
remixes!) but i think EU is way better than those.
First time i got into Moby (i love dragging this story
to the list!) was actually browsing around the
Goodwill store (same way i got into PE, ATCQ, Pixies,
New Order, etc.) when i found a dub tape that said
"Moby: Everything Is Wrong"  on it, and i've heard of
him and heard some of his rock stuff (AR was coming
out then i think, and i was still listening to Radio
104, just weaning on to college radio) and i was also
getting into techno, so i got that and i was totally
blown away, and as an added bonus whoever dubbed EIW
to side 1 of that put the first 10 trax of EU on it,
which instantly turned me on to his early stuff. using
old magazine photos of the man (from the defunct CD
Review if anyone cares, which named EIW one of the
best albums of 95), i made a nifty looking tape case
holder thing for it. oh, i also got ILTS the week it
came out (i was going to get it the day it came out,
but i accidentally stuck some mustard packets in my
pockets at lunch, one of the first days i went to
Hamden High actually, and so my money had all mustard
all over it, so i had to wait til the weekend to get
it! ;)

> Hope you can help me,
> Thanx!

hey no problem! its nice seeing some new blood here!
;) BTW, please dont get mad at us if we go off
topic!!! we always do so, and most of the time, it is
in fun spirit, like that rock band list thing i just
posted yestrday. please have a sense of humor people!

> Hey y'all
> I just went to the site of KTCL some radio station
> and it said Moby is gonna
> perform on 9/8/00  at the Red Rocks <---- where the
> hell is that?  with
> Rabbit in the Moon. do y'all know if they're gonna
> tour 2 gethere???

Red Rocks is a legendary venue in colorado i believe.
everyone from Dave Matthews to The Chemical Brothers
have played there. at least i think they have, those
are the only two names i can remember of people that
played there ;) but Dave Matthews has always said that
Red Rocks is one of the best places to play live, so
it sounds pretty cool. as for touring with RITM,
probly not but who knows. i hope Moby goes on tour
with some techno group next time, not to stereotype
him, but he got lots of bad vibes with people waiting
to see Bush n junk, so there would be no point of him
doing that again. the vibes would be way better with
him and somebody like Juno Reactor like before. when i
saw him it was with some noisy rap group that nobody
was there to see. i though they were cool but its jsut
not the vibe for a Moby show. somebody techno-ey would
make a lot better bill w/Moby, i think.

also, when Moby toured for AR, who was his band? who
were some of his opening acts too? was that the first
time he performed with a band (besides early punk
stuff of course), the rest was solo?


> In 20 acts, there were only 2 women on stage: Moby's
> bass player, Greta Brinkman, and Snake River
> Conspiracy's singer, Tobey.

hooray for Moby doing that! yay! as for SRC, anybody
have any opinions on them? i'm curious...

 Hint: Looking for hardcore
> female bands next year?  Try Nashville Pussy,

ahem, Nashville Pussy? arent they some horny Ted
Nugent wannabes with some big boobed chicks dancing
around or something?

 L7,
> Drain STH, Veruca Salt, Sleater-Kinney."

theyre looking at L7 as some new band? i found an old
L7 record from 1988 or so at WPKN the other day.
and hell yes, listen to Sleater Kinney!!!

> Hey yo girl
> you can stop by in Cali and Pick me up ! Road trip
> right?
> Brotha Man G

aw crap! you guys are on the wrong side of the
continent! i'd love to meet you over there :)

> Has anybody heard the extra animal rights bonus cd?
> what's it like? thanks...

oh, probly the best album i've ever heard. if you like
that kinda thing.

> I read somewhere that play was a track selection of
> over 800 songs he made, or some other unbelievable
> number. Did moby actually make that many songs? If
> so
> where are all of them?

he said a lot of em were just garbage, just noise
junk. i'm sure he has tons and tons of demos and junk
around his studio. i want to hear it all tho, im sure
his stupidest
moaning-in-the-shower-naked-fondling-a-guitar track is
better than anything i could ever cough up......


> Shirly not Marilyn.  In the June issue of Q, I think
> we get it a bit late in the states.
>
> "...certain rock stars who believe that it's in
> their interests to maintain the illusion of grandeur
> and power.  Just as an example: I was at the Grammys
> a couple of weeks ago, presenting an award with
> Moby, and we were backstage and everything was cool
> and normal and down to earth and then suddenly that
> ludicrous Jennifer Lopez comes swanning around like
> she's the Queen of Sheba.  Well, I'm sorry Jennifer,
> but Moby has sold as many records as you have.  I've
> sold as many records as you have.  Get off your
> fucking high horse and eat shit with the rest of us.
>  A beautiful face but I want to punch it
> nevertheless."
>
> I thought that was interesting.
> - -Sara

well, definitely interesting.... i kinda agree with
her tho. thank god that Moby is still kinda down to
earth right? most of the time anyway...


ok i might as well go bye bye. i think im going to do
the Monday 12-3am shift on WPKN in a few days again,
if anyone cares. also, in case ANYONE cares, the Sifl
& Olly tribute album that i have 3 trax on  is
complete, totally, theres even advance copies and MP3s
floatin around, we just have to get the artwerk ready
for official release. well, sort of official release,
it's free to anyone that wants it, just have to pay a
blank cd and postage.

but anyway, ROCK! bye! DJ PAUL
"and its ok, cause Cindy's the hostess, SHE'S DOA! And
she's the mostess...."

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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 21:40:08 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) 800 songs?

HEY EVERYONE MY EMAIL IS BEING CHANGED TO SPEEDKLLS@HOTMAIL SO FORWARD
EVERYTHING TO THAT

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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 03:35:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Elissa Brown <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) muzik mag

moby's on the cover of uk's muzik mag, july 2000.  the interview is set around
his fresno date and basically all of it hinges on sex. <yawn>

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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:38:09 +0300
From: Sampsa Heinonen <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) New Voodoo Child rmx

Dj Cam/ Afu-Ra= Voodoo Child rmx= 12" FR

Does someone know something of that release?

      -Sampsa "Samu" Heinonen-
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 06:44:36 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) New Voodoo Child rmx

Dans un courrier dat=E9 du 22/06/00 12:39:55 Heure d'=E9t=E9 Paris Madrid,=20
[e-mail] a =E9crit :

> Dj Cam/ Afu-Ra=3D Voodoo Child rmx=3D 12" FR

This is not a new mix of Voodoo Child. Just a french hip hop guy that likes=20
voodoo in general so called himself voodoo child.

matthieu

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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:31:55 EDT
From: "courtney colonna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Fwd: Moby turns down Madonna

>Moby turns down Madonna
>The in-demand star has not ruled out a future collaboration...
>http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/20000622141210.html
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 11:45:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: scott stoddard <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #229

i was wondering if some of you Moby-savvy guys
> would help me out and
> point out some of his better CD's.  I know they've
> all got to be awsome,
> but right now I can't afford to buy them all, and I
> don't want to get
> that new "best of" CD, cause that doesn't sound like
> a good
> representation of Moby, just commercialization.
> Hope you can help me,
> Thanx!

I have most of his cd's that I'm aware of- about 35.
The first cd I would go with is "everything is wrong"
it has a wide variety of music on it, And it was the
first one I ever got. "Animal rights" has some really
beautiful stuff on it, but it also has a lot of really
heavy loud guitar screaming stuff that I don't care
for, and is my least favorite of moby's styles. "I
Like to Score" has a good variety of classical and
upbeat stuff. The older stuff like ambient and moby
rare etc... are alright, but don't expect anything
like play. All the play singles that I have bought
have been beautiful, I highly recomend them all. A lot
of the everything is wrong singles are pretty nice
too, but If you have to choose one, I think you would
be most pleased with everything is wrong. If you
really want to be sure, check out the track listings
and then go sample the songs off napster, or amazon.
that's what I do. peez out,

rubbersharkman

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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 15:00:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: Cassandra <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) RE: mobility-digest V3 #224

Hey Elissa
I'd have to say my favorite song at the moment would be Porcelain.  It's a really pretty song.

cassandra



>>Hiya Cassandra, welcome to the list.  I'm from Texas too, near Houston, but at
the moment I'm studying in England.  What's your favorite Moby song so far?

Elissa>>

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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:37:22 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #229

I ahve to agree with rubbersharkman.  Play is awesome, EIW ist great, but AR
is just too loud and heavy metal for me.


CCH

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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 16:20:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby turns down madonna!

you all know this by now since i have the digest, but
from the NME:


MOBY has revealed that he said ænoÆ to MADONNA when
she asked to work with him.

But he has not ruled out a future collaboration with
the queen of pop when he begins work on his next
album.

Speaking to www.mtv.com, he explained: "Madonna
expressed some interest in possibly working
together and I would love to, because I think she has
a very beautiful voice and sheÆs obviously very
talented.

"But IÆm on tour forever, and maybe when it comes time
to make my own record, if she wants to help
out, IÆd love to have her involved."

He also commented that he is fed up remixing other
peopleÆs work and plans to focus on his own
records. "In the past IÆve done so many remixes...
Metallica, Aerosmith, David Bowie, The
Prodigy and Michael Jackson. Now I just want to focus
on making my own music. So, much as
IÆd like to do a Madonna remix, I wouldnÆt want to be
tempted by that."

Moby appears on The Other Stage at Glastonbury
Festival tomorrow (June 23). He is also
scheduled to play T In The Park on July 8 and V2000 at
Chelmsford and Leeds on August 19
and 20.

ROCK!
DJ PAUL

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