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mobility-digest        Thursday, June 15 2000        Volume 03 : Number 221



(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #219
Re: (mobility) age?
(mobility) Age
(mobility) Apolo - G
(mobility) er, how
Re: (mobility) er, how
(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #219
(mobility) brotha man
(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #220
Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #220
(mobility) re:mobytrl
(mobility) Re: the chicago article
(mobility) moby is intergenerational

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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:34:29 +0100
From: TOMB <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #219

 it is also available on limited
> 10" Red Vinyl. The mix is the same as the cd, but I
> thought I would mention it for all you collectors out
> there!
Sigh, saw the red vinal in August for =A38, but was in cornwall on holida=
y
4 the eclipse. u c if I bought it the thing would have got smashed in
the post, so couldn't buy the thing, as I'm a Metallica fan + Moby fan,
found it upsetting.=20

> P.S. When this came out back in 1996, it was amazing
> to see how many Metallica fans wanted to kill Moby! I was
> about the only Metallica fan that was happy that Moby
> remixed on of their songs (and it really was a good
> version too!)
> Yeh, reading websites was funny, few ppl  really like the remix



> Can anyone point me in the direction of keyboard
> notation (or whatever it is I need to play a song) for
> That's When I Reach For My Revolver. I managed to get
> the guitar tabulature, but my colleague in the band
> would like his part.
Argh, Argh, U HAVE MOBY GUITAR TAB??????????????????????????? How,
where, when, please tell me, post it to my personal address please
because have to read digests fast therefore skip bits

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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 11:51:36 -0700
From: "kiwi_kiwi" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) age?

I'm sayin Sista,
Well forget I said ne thang coz this is fillin brothas and sistaz mail boxes
Brotha Man G

>--- Elissa Brown <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> yo dawg I know what you mean but it ain't like dat
>> everywhere man.  in
>> california moby is music of my crew cuz they down
>> wit the beats.  (and i just
>> turn 21 yesterday yo).  and here in england it's the
>> same dealie man, moby is
>> hype on college campuses and a lot of his fans are
>> that age.  yo but for 15
>> year olds i don't know, cuz i ain't 15 and i don't
>> know no 15 y.o.s but i do
>> know that at least in LA moby is played on and on on
>> KROQ which is the station
>> that any "cool" 15 y.o. listens to, so they prolly
>> like it in LA too.  but as
>> for old people man ain't nuthin wrong with older
>> folk rockin to moby, it just
>> means his shit is hype and everyone can kick it.  if
>> yo friends dont listen to
>> it cuz they parents do then they iz stoopid and need
>> to grow up cuz yo, good
>> music is good music and if they don't recognize they
>> whacked!
>>
>> peace out
>> sistah brown
>>
>> --- kiwi_kiwi <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> > aiight one mo' time
>> > It seem like Moby ain't made for kids.
>> > Although I love Earth Wind and Fire. Peers of my
>> Age( 15, 16) don't seem to
>> > respect it coz it's "OLD PEOPLE MUSIC" I know that
>> moby said
>> > that he made the record for Every age and everyone
>> but. When the teenager's
>> > parents be listining to it the teens don't wanna
>> touch it. <--- it seems
>> > like it.
>> > But still some kids like it coz they come up to me
>> after I spun Moby at My
>> > sessions.
>> >
>> > Later
>> > Brotha Man G
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:48:59 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Age

How dare those 45 year olds listen to a 35 year old musician!

Deemo
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 13:14:34 -0700
From: "kiwi_kiwi" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Apolo - G

Isn't he 34? oh well
Hey Everybody that's gonna read this or that ain't gonna read it
I just wanna say I'm very wrong and I'm sorry for dissing some people
especially 40 - 50 year old. and Thank you all of y'all that changed my
mind about this Muzik. I think It's cool now . and I was a little hot headed
about this subject. I hope all y'all can fogive me.

Later,
Brotha Man G of tha CMB
also reprazenting the RPB

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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 23:27:43 +0100
From: TOMB <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) er, how

dooyoo, signed in, assume I don't know how 2 use these net shity things,
how I read opinion?

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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 18:30:28 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) er, how

I couldn't figure it out either. I'm kind of mad that I've been sent to all
kinds of web pages, not jsut on this list, and i can't get around. oh well.
I'm not too worried about it.


Later
Emily

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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 23:20:34 GMT
From: "Shaunna Lawrrence" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #219

Wannes Haghebaert asked:
have u seen moby live???

Yeah, I got the oppertuinity to see Moby this past April!  I have one thing
to say and that is that it was beautiful!
<<moonchyld>>

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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 23:33:47 GMT
From: "Shaunna Lawrrence" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) brotha man

I am SO sorry, but I can't help but laugh at Brotha man G, it's just too
funny. But enough of that.  I agree with what most of you were saying that
it doesn't matter what age a person is to listen to moby! As long as he is
appreciated, than the more, the merrier!
I hope people don't get mad at me for listening to this kind of music when
I'm old.
*the end*
- -chyld of the moon, yo!
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 20:27:05 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #220

What up with the ghetto writin's, yo?  Word.
Peace to my hommies-Heather, the Ghetto Queen

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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 17:33:11 -0700
From: "Kevin Snaden" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #220

Right.....


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> What up with the ghetto writin's, yo?  Word.
> Peace to my hommies-Heather, the Ghetto Queen
>

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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 17:39:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) re:mobytrl

Hell yeah! Rise up with the revolution!

I think this is the first time soebody who is not me
has posted a message like this!

Heh, Kiwi Kiwi! i like that! you from New Zealand? ;P

also, i heard "Stan". WWWWWWOOOOOOWWWWWWW. Amazing
song. i mean the lyrics are insane but thats kind of
the point. the production is just so friggin amazing
tho. i cant wait to hear the album believe it or not!

also, My Weakness sucks why do you guys like it so
much? Har har, I'm kidding. MOBY IS THE MAN!!!!
WOOHOOOO! ok ROCK! byE (DJ PAUL)

> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:44:21 -0700
> From: "kiwi_kiwi" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (mobility) When are we gonna Get Moby on
> TRL?????????????????
>
> Hey y'all,
> I don't know about you but I'm fed up with the Pop
> S*** that's on TRL and
> MTV
> it's time to stand up and get our votes in  just one
> day would do. to get
> Moby on TRL
> y'all recognize it's T R Hell right now with all
> them stupid vidoes!!
> Brotha Man G
>

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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 18:01:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: the chicago article

 and
> a listener driving
> > home from work in Manhattan was so moved that she
> pulled her car off
> > the road and called the deejay.
> >
> > Who the heck was that? she asked.


thats what i love seeing. people just totally moved by
Moby's music going "what the hell is this?!?!? this is
the most beautiful thing i've ever heard in my
life!!!!" thats why Moby is here basically!
also a pleasant reminder that Moby's music can do that
to people. with all this fame and money and exposure
and junk, you forget how damn powerful it can be.

> > "I was not fanatical about this record for a long
> time," says Dave
> > Richards, program director at Chicago's WKQX-FM
> 101.1, one of the
> > country's most influential modern rock stations.
> "But the best records
> > are often the ones that take a long time to build,
> because it suggests
> > there is nothing out there like them, and that was
> definitely the case
> > with this one."

can somebody scream "TRENDY"!?!?!? or also perhaps,
"SUCKER!!!!!" whatever, this guy probly thought techno
was totally stupid until MTV told him Prodigy was cool
of course ;)

> > "With MTV," says Rachel Mintz, V2 product manager,
> "you have to look
> > like a rock star. You have to have people dancing.
> Moby did a video
> > for us [for `Natural Blues'] looking
> like an old man being
> > wheeled down the hallway of a very depressing
> old-age home. It's a
> > beautiful video, like a work of art. But with the
> MTV audience, you
> > have to appeal to the basic senses."

why are they acting like it was a total failure with
MTV/radio? i mean he's not number one, but he's on the
radio (not Casey Casem radio but still) and MTV has
played it a little. i've talked to N Sync fans that
recognized that video with Cristina Ricci in it!
anyways.....

> > Yet there were rumblings from the start that
> "Play" was appealing to
> > the basic senses in other ways. Critics arrived at
> an early consensus
> > that "Play" was one of the year's most important
> albums, the acclaim
> > nearly as overwhelming as that which greeted the
> release of
> > "Nevermind" by an unheralded band called Nirvana a
> decade ago.


wow, comparing Moby to Nirvana? considering how much i
friggin love Nirvana, that gives me evne more respect
for Moby! I've been thinking lately that Nirvana were
basically somebody like the Pixies or Husker Du who
just managed to get famous, i mean "Bossanova" would
have been the most important album of the 90s if
"Velouria" or "Dig For Fire" went Top 10 or something.
its basically the same indie-rock school. but
anyways... or maybe "Monkey Gone To Heaven" but that
was the 80s... anyway,

> > "The first time I was ever approached to have my
> music used in a
> > commercial was [in 1995] for a Range
> Rover ad in Europe, and
> > my knee-jerk punk-rock reaction was `No!
> Absolutely not!"' says Moby.

ROCK! Moby as a punk, that makes me respect him a lot
too! (im also goin thru a whole old school punk thing
now ;)

> > Since then, Moby has fielded a steady stream of
> licensing offers for
> > his evocative music from advertisers and movie
> representatives, few of
> > which he has turned down. And he's no longer
> handing the money over to
> > charity. He owns a home and a recording studio in
> Manhattan.

hey wait, thats not punk at all!!! but well, i guess
the recording studio probly costs $$$ and stuff. i
sure hopes he donates SOMETHING to charity in the
future, but hey its his $ why should i even care what
he does with it?

> > "When I was younger, I saw the world in rigid
> black-and-white terms,"
> > he says. "I was quite a moralist. As I've gotten
> older, I've begun to
> > realize how complex the world is, especially the
> consumer-driven,
> > media-saturated world in which we live, and I like
> living in it. It's
> > not all bad, and it's not all good. It is a
> fascinating process, and
> > it exposes more people to my music. I sleep well
> at night because the
> > music itself is never compromised.


well once the music leaves yr head its already
compromised but anyway....... ;P

 I made these
> songs because I love
> > them, and I never thought, How would this sound on
> radio? let alone a
> > TV ad. The moment when I actually compromise my
> creative output to
> > make it more commercially palatable, that's when
> I'll feel disgusted
> > with myself.

see Xaq? ;P oh wait, you said that like a week ago or
something. sorry. ;)

 In recent months TV
> commercials have broken the
> > music of techno artists such as Fatboy Slim and
> the late folk singer
> > Nick Drake.

OH MY GOD! Nick Drake rocks! altho the first time i
saw that ad that uses "Pink Moon" i almost thought it
was Belle & Sebastian or something! thats awesome that
they did that tho, i love that commercial. and now at
WPKN they sent us a promo single of "Pink Moon" cuz i
guess people are requesting it now! hopefully some
commercial stations will start playing it...

> > After appearing in a series of print ads for a
> jeans manufacturer, he

hmmm, is Moby the next Flat Eric? ;P


Okay enough witty Paul comments for... well, this
digest (i got one more to read i think)

also, im doing a show Monday at midnite-3am. i got the
whole playlist planned out, its gonna kick ass! and
i'll play a little Moby and some Kelis right before i
play "Honey" just kind of as a shout out to you guys
and Moby and stuff, but a lot more punk and indie rock
stuff (entire album "Bossanova"!) plus... well, i'll
post the playlist later. it's not totally Moby related
but its gonna kick friggin ass.


i should be working on my opening sound collage now,
all sorts of Sonic Youth and Sifl & Olly samples!
rock!
"I wish i could bring Nick Drake back to life, he'd
understand.... hold my ha-and...." Graham Coxon of
Blur, from his underrated solo album "The Sky Is Too
High"
ROCK!
DJ PAUL

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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 18:24:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby is intergenerational

this is interesting, after my first show at WPKN, i
ended it with the song "Mobility" (for you guys! i
love you!!!) and the next DJ up, Ruben Abreu, was
raving (no pun intended) about how cool Moby was and
stuff... and not only is he 53, but he's a Latin jazz
DJ! so he was talking about how his music is
intergenerational, it appeals to everybody. why? CUZ
ITS DAMN GOOD EMOTIONAL MUSIC! everybody, people of
all age groups, have emotion! and thats why it appeals
to people! probly the blues samples and junk too.

of course, emo people say the same thing too, that
like everybody has emotion and junk, but whatever you
all know what i mean ;)

> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 23:35:07 -0700
> From: "kiwi_kiwi" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: (mobility) TRL nonsense
>
> Yo brotha I know what you sayin but be in my
> position
> they think moby is fo old people and I'm only 15
> brotha.

um, no offense at all, but are you black? just
wondering, thats all, i dont know too many black Moby
fans so that would be kinda cool i guess *shrug*

> People think Moby is stupid coz of they parents
> listinin to it.
> I'm just making a suggestion so mo' little kids like
> me can get into it.

i kinda agree with this tho, it would be nice if more
kids were into Moby's stuff, maybe they would grow up
being more intelligent than some N Sync fan. but i'm
sure even Yale and Harvard have plenty of BSB/NS fans
so what am i even talking about ;) intelligence has
nothing to do with taste does it? (oh god why am i
even going off on this tangent ;)

> For real, Moby's Punk music kick mo' ass than some
> dumb ass rock band.

yeah definitely! AR Rocks! altho right now i'm into
lots of old school punk rock, so i wouldnt say Moby's
is the best punk rock ever... well ok maybe but its
impossible to praise AR without givin' props to the
Ramones and Mission Of Burma and Flipper etc. for
starting all that and influencing him,  there would be
no AR and probly no Moby without them. but anyway...

> aiight one mo' time
> It seem like Moby ain't made for kids.
> Although I love Earth Wind and Fire.

wow, thats impressive! i mean i know people my age
that listen to like Hendrix or Santana or Bob Marley
or something but not something like Earth Wind & Fire!
cool!

 Peers of my
> Age( 15, 16) don't seem to
> respect it coz it's "OLD PEOPLE MUSIC"

yeah, i know, i see...

I know that
> moby said
> that he made the record for Every age and everyone
> but. When the teenager's
> parents be listining to it the teens don't wanna
> touch it. <--- it seems
> like it.

yeah really, its not cool to have cool parents ;)

> But still some kids like it coz they come up to me
> after I spun Moby at My
> sessions.

cool, where do you spin? parties n stuff? i got a
radio show, Chester's Blanket Fort, its great! it's
nice to see some other DJ's my age... or even younger!
even if people disagree with all this junk yr saying,
I think yr pretty cool Kiwi Kiwi!
  (and i just
> turn 21 yesterday yo).

Happy birthday sista!! LOL


> ....my 93 year old grandma LOVES  Moby.
>   I think Moby would be "down with that".  Good fer
> her fer listenin' up!  YO!

wow, thats amazing!

and i wish Kees was still on this list, he'd rip the
shit out of all this "black" speak i think ;) no
offense of course, i'm all humor n junk. ;P


> im 16 and i love moby, but as far as kids my age i'm
> kinda rare. Some people
> know PLAY but not the other albums.
> alayna

yeah, kinda like TMBG fans who only know of Flood.
duh, and its not even their best album! jeez!

> ôam I over the hill or has he produced nothing
> really new with this
> offering, it seems soooooooo bland to me no real
> edge to it, give me the
> chemicals bro's any day.ö

i vote for "over the hill"

but i dont care what he thinks. if Play has sold
millions of copies, and especially with all the
exposure its been getting, then there is automatically
thousands who hate it. pretty much everybody who makes
music has somebody who hates them, as i learned at
WPKN.

uh..... thank you for reading Paul's silly email
replies n junk! ROCK!
it wouldnt be an email from me if i didnt say ROCK!
about a thousand times, so....
SUFRAGETTE!
DJ PAUL
(what, you were expecting ROCK!? that was an S&O
reference however...) ;) LOL

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