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mobility-digest       Wednesday, January 5 2000       Volume 03 : Number 070



(mobility) quickly...
Re: (mobility) moby nominated for grammy!
(mobility) Electronica without drugs ?
Re: (mobility)  OT Electronica without drugs ?
RE: (mobility) Electronica without drugs ?
Re: (mobility) moby nominated for grammy!
Re: (mobility) Combining posts to include multiple subjects
Re: (mobility) Moby wigs out and gets naked! (+Basement Rock & Pork  Guys)
RE: (mobility) Electronica without drugs ?
(mobility) many things in 1ne post (as i often do)
(mobility) grooveradio (not totally related)
Re: (mobility) moby nominated for grammy!

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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:16:39 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) quickly...

who cares what happens at the grammys. they nominated the backstreet boys for
christ's sake. all the grammy's do is verify the billboard lists.

fatboy slim is horribly untalented. he creates catchy stuff, but there's
nothing to it. it's horribly simplistic, and lacks any real artistic merit.
however he does have a tendency to get people interested in electronic music
who would otherwise ignore it. so props to norman for that much.

the "praise you" video is awesome, yes. but this has a lot more to do with
diector spike jonze than it does norman cook.

beck did a so-called "refined" album. it was called mutations. it came out in
98. it is one of the most beautiful albums i've ever heard.

- - don pentaro

dpec's drunken antics, the secrets of the universe, and a picture of a
monkey. all this and more at <A HREF="www.geocities.com/dpec42/index.html">www
.geocities.com/dpec42/</A>!!!

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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:29:46 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby nominated for grammy!

wow thats so exciting! i wish i could tell moby how great i think he is.....o
well...

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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:29:37 -0500
From: Konboye Oyake <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Electronica without drugs ?

Every time I go to a rave or electronica party, I seem to be one of just a
handful of people not "rolling". I feel so damn awkward and out of place.
Should I stay home and enjoy my electronic music in solitude? Can't there be
electronica parties where the experience is 100% music instead of 50%
music/50% drugs. Or is this how it is and I'm going to have to suck it up
and accept it ?

Is this the right forum to discus this in or am I out of place again and on
the verge of getting flamed ?


- -Breaka

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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:53:17 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility)  OT Electronica without drugs ?

In a message dated 01/05/2000 12:33:39 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Is this the right forum to discus this in or am I out of place again and on
 the verge of getting flamed ?
  >>

You'll probably get flamed by the die-hard on topic types but we'll put an OT
so they'll be happy.

<<Every time I go to a rave or electronica party, I seem to be one of just a
handful of people not "rolling". I feel so damn awkward and out of place.
Should I stay home and enjoy my electronic music in solitude? Can't there be
electronica parties where the experience is 100% music instead of 50%
music/50% drugs. Or is this how it is and I'm going to have to suck it up
and accept it ?>>

I am so anti-rave just because its for all those people that want to feel
special about being underground.. It's the not the music at raves it's the
culture and social atmosphere.  Granted glowsticks are cool, and I want to
find stuff to put on my hair so that it glows green like a glowstick (the
stuff inside fades so fast)...  But I don't want to be surrounded by a bunch
of people who thinks it's the in place to be or the in type of music to
listen to.

Considering the fact that I have never done drugs in my entire life and never
plan to, and I absolutely adore electronica for all its beauty, it is
possible.  And if your in a place where the vibe is right and the music is
good and the people aren't too obnoxious, all's good...   But I also enjoy
driving super fast in my car and listening to it too (except trance.. that
stuff puts me to sleep)....

I guess it depends on your purpose.... If you want to enjoy the music.. at
home... If you want to feel the energy it creates  go to the rave, club, or
whatever the shindig might be.

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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 10:03:12 +1300
From: "Damian" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Electronica without drugs ?

It does seem that they go hand in hand.  Over here I've found that it's all
of the gym bunnies who partake in a sniff of this or a pop of that instead
of drinking..... better for the body?  I don't think so......

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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 15:11:34 -0700
From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby nominated for grammy!

[e-mail] wrote:

> >our dear moby has been nominated twice for a grammy!!!  one is "best rock
> >instrumental performance" for bodyrock and the other is "best alternative
> >album" for play.  im super happy for moby!  hope he wins!
>

"Best Rock intrumental Performance"?  How'd they get that?  And "Best
Alternative Album" oh, MOBY is *sooo* alternative.  Gee, does "Alternative"
still exist?  The lines have become so blured.  Grunge used to be
alternative, then it was pop rock, then it was rock that no one can really
define, then it all went down the tubes with Boy Bands and Britt. Spears
lookalikes and now those wanna be "R&B" ppl are known as "Pop".  I'm sooo
confused.  Now there's the rap/rock bands and all those wussy heavy metal
bands.  Where's my "Grunge"?  I'm feeling so disgruntled. :-)  I may have to
shoot innocent radio's and tv's.

- --kimby

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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:10:34 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Combining posts to include multiple subjects

Very very true,
but if you are having a conversation with one person, maybe you can email
that person directly and not post to the list.

Thanks!

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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 15:24:25 -0700
From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby wigs out and gets naked! (+Basement Rock & Pork  Guys)

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Steve Giles wrote:

> >POPsmear wig photos
> >http://www.popsmear.com/new/framework/features/14/moby/index.html
>

Ok, sometimes MOBY truely scares me.  Is that tea pot hiding his thick, bushy pubic hair?  No,
don't answer that, I don't want to know.  I just don't enjoy looking at other ppl's pubic hair.
(Are YOU down with OPP?)

I mean, yes, he's a hottie and all but I just don't dig pubs man.

- --kimby


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Ok, sometimes MOBY truely scares me.  Is that tea pot hiding his thick,
bushy pubic hair?  No, don't answer that, I don't want to know.
I just don't enjoy looking at other ppl's pubic hair. (Are YOU down with
OPP?)
<p>I mean, yes, he's a hottie and all but I just don't dig pubs man.
<p>--kimby
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:30:39 -0800 (PST)
From: morag doodikins <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Electronica without drugs ?

..i've been going to raves for a while. there's
nothing like having the dj right there and feeling the
music with a crowd of people who are all dancing and
feeling the same thing. i loved electronica way before
i went to any raves; but going just inhances the
expirience for me.. sadly most of the parties i've
gone to in the past year have been full people who go
to take the drugs and stand in the the middle of the
dance floor and don't really care about the scene. i
have nothing against taking drugs, i did until i had a
really bad expirience a few months ago. now i'm pretty
much clean, and it is weird going and having everyone
around you in some other reality.. i love the
philosophy of PLUR; it's too bad it takes drugs to
make it happen. believe me, there are people who go to
raves for the music.. sorry, rambling... *kitt*

- --- Damian <[e-mail]> wrote:
> It does seem that they go hand in hand.  Over here
> I've found that it's all
> of the gym bunnies who partake in a sniff of this or
> a pop of that instead
> of drinking..... better for the body?  I don't think
> so......
>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:46:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) many things in 1ne post (as i often do)

wow, 2wo grammy noms! RRRRROOOOCCCCCKKKK!!! of course,
"bodyrock" isnt really an instrumental huh? then again
"Block Rockin Beats" won that one a few years ago
so......

why is everyone like "i think Tori should win
definitely" um, this is the Moby list right????? my
opinion, i honestly think "The Fragile" kinda sucked,
and NIN and Beck and i think Tori have already won
Grammies, and FBS won some MTV awards so thats enuff.
Moby hasnt really won too many major awards (not that
it REALLY matters, i mean just listening to his muzik
is all you really need, you  dont have to be told
"this muzik is award winning" to be into it, right?)
but anyway "Play" beat the shit out of all those other
cds too. of course i havent heard Beck or Tori (and
FBS was NOT the best album of the year, not that it
was bad but its kind of annoying now)....

actually, its quite impressive that moby is up for
alternative, i mean Beck and Tori and NIN and FBS are
pretty much household names. if you go to an average
school, you'll find fans of all of them in any average
good-sized classroom. Moby is a bit lesser known, and
a mit lower placed on Bilboard and a bit less exposed
and a bit less heard. but ocasionally a bit more
critically praised. so thats great that they opened up
and got into this, even if they decided "oh well all
these critics are saying this is good, maybe we should
give a listen to it also" then at least they made a
good decision, even if it was a fluke, you know?

uhhhhhh ramblings anyway some other nominated folks:

Tom Waits (best folk album! and best male vocal
rock?!)
Club 69 (best remixer.... not familiar with them but
other folks here are, so there you go!)
Bjork/Chris Cunningham (best video! but not Aphex? ;)
Radiohead (best longform video...ROCK!)
Ani Difranco (best folk album and female rock vocal...
yeah like thatll win against Sarah Mclachlan and
Melissa Etheridge...my friend Fran Fried, muzik critic
for New Haven Register, recently said that Ani was the
musician of the decade (along with Nirvana) because of
how much influence she had on female musicians, and
the interesting thing he said is that the major labels
invented people like Alanis Morisette when Ani wouldnt
budge from her self-created
label....interesting...sorry to ramble!)

and probly a few more i missed.

hey new guy! welcome! dude you have a lot of stuff!
and, yr a PIXIES fan! ROCK!!!! ive been obsessed with
them lately. I also listened to Breeders "Last Splash"
yestrday for the first time in a while.... DAAAAAAMNN
that album is classic!!!! ROCK!!!!

also, i was at artists workshop today, and we were
searchin for MIDI files (we found a kickass Metallicaa
"Wherever I May Roam" MIDI! ;) so i demanded that
Zheng (the computer genius kid) go to moby.org and get
some Moby MIDIS. we got "GWOTFOTW" and "Terror Of Blue
Lawns" by Eric Goldberg (aka Tone Matrix) and the art
teacher commented on how repetitive GMO.. was! whuh?
and i havent heard Blue Lawns in a while (Rod Rich
still has my AR/LI and Ambeint discs!!! damn1!!!!) but
of course the MIDI versions were a bit off. the big
bass BOOOOMMM in GMO... was just a little cymbal
*pish* and it didnt have like the bridge part in
it...you know? and Blue Lawns was... the string sound
wasnt big enough... but still, its Moby, so its better
than frigging Blink 182 or Mariah Carey MP3's. sorry
and thanks Tone Matrix (if yr still on here...)

oh i got i great Sifl & Olly picture if anyone wants
me to email them it ;) and Dr Funk sed he got my blank
CD for my copy of the tribute album! yay! if you want
a copy just email [e-mail] and ask for info!
i'm on 2wo trax on this thing

RIGHT! bye!!!!

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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:56:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) grooveradio (not totally related)

well this mentions Moby, but its not really related,
but of interest. Dave the Wave, who does the Electro
Circus on 104 Saturday nite from 10-2 (or usually a
lot later) is leaving connecticut, to work at
grooveradio, a 24-hour techno station on the net.
but hell still do the electro circus thank god. the
show sucks a little, in that he plays some junky stuff
and he sucks as a dj, but he does play tons of stuff
that 104 would NEVER play (mixing Live with Roni Size?
and getting it to sound good??? bootleg jungle mixes
of Fugees, Monica, Busta Rhymes, Missy Elliott???
techno muzik in general???) and the first time i ever
heard news about Play, its title, and a non-single
from it (which i broke the news to this very list) was
on this show. i love how he totally rips apart
commercial radio, im surprised he hasnt been fired
actually. so heres some cool news for you all. enjoy!


>
>
> GROOVE RADIO RETURNS VIA
>
> grooveradio.com
>
> Swedish Egil To Stream His Original Electronic Dance
> Music Format
>
> Live On The Internet Beginning 01/11/00
>
>
>     Santa Monica, California  -  GROOVE RADIO,
> representing an exclusive
> electronic dance music format, will again be
> available to fans around the
> world via the internet at www.grooveradio.com
> beginning January 11, 2000.
> Programming will be headed by GROOVE RADIO founder,
> Swedish Egil - a/k/a Egil
> Aalvik, who in the last two decades was responsible
> for successful radio
> programming on KROQ-FM, MARS-FM, and GROOVE RADIO on
> 103.1 in Los Angeles;  a
> music video television program GROOVE TV;  and
> dance/electronic label imprint
> egil_music which, in addition to mix-compilations by
> world-class DJs such as
> APHRODITE and CHRISTOPHER LAWRENCE, also released
> the heralded series, GROOVE
> RADIO PRESENTS...  The GROOVE RADIO studios are
> based in Santa Monica,
> California and will broadcast live 24-hours a day,
> seven days a week.
>
>
>     The numbers 011100 are more than just digital
> ones and zeros.  To Swedish
> Egil, they represent a date.  January 11th in the
> year 2000 to be exact.  A
> date that1s been a long time coming for the man with
> the vision to connect
> people to the rhythm of the future.  The original
> GROOVE RADIO was one of the
> first to program sounds such as House, Techno,
> Trance, Drum n Bass, and
> Reggae music to an American audience, introducing
> artists such as MOBY,
> FATBOY SLIM, LEFTFIELD, UNDERWORLD, DJ PAUL
> OAKENFOLD, ARMAND VAN HELDEN, and
> many more since 1992.  "There's an influential
> audience that has been
> underserved and is hungry for electronic dance music
> and the exciting sounds
> and visuals of club culture, comments Egil. "We're
> taking our knowledge and
> experience of the past and are bringing together the
> ingredients that made
> radio, TV, and the music industry great...vision,
> talent, and opportunity -
> and using the fantastic technologies of this digital
> revolution to create a
> new kind of entertainment center."
>
>
>     As GROOVE RADIO kicks off its internet audio
> signal at grooveradio.com -
> the site will also undergo extensive changes and
> expansion to enable a
> comprehensive experience that will satisfy the most
> ardent electronic music
> fans.  grooveradio.com will feature high performance
> technology and a variety
> of streaming platforms with plans to include video
> broadcasting,
> merchandising, and music distribution.  Egil
> explains, "We want to replace
> the passive radio experience and build a dynamic
> community of like-minded
> fans - a place where people can meet, greet, get
> information, or simply
> listen to some wicked groove music.  GROOVE RADIO
> will continue be dedicated
> to the future of music and will always deliver on
> its promise to showcase
> emerging artists and DJs."
>
>
>     For more information on grooveradio.com, please
> contact April McClellan
> at tel:  [phone] - efax:  208/330-7366 - email:
>  [e-mail]
> - www:  grooveradio.com
>
> grooveradio.com on-air schedule
>
>
> (all times PST)
>
>
> Monday-Thursday
>
> 02am - 06am        DJ Dave
>
> 06am - 10am        Alan Freed
>
> 10am - 02pm        Christian B.
>
> 02pm - 06pm        Swedish Egil
>
> 06pm - 10pm        Holly Adams
>
> 10pm - 02am        Dave Dresden (starts week of
> 1/31/00)
>
>
>
> Friday
>
> 02am - 06am        DJ Dave
>
> 06am - 10am        Alan Freed
>
> 10am - 02pm        Christian B.
>
> 02pm - 06pm        Swedish Egil
>
> 06pm - 10pm        Holly Adams
>
> 10pm - 02am        Groove Radio International
>
>
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oh well.... bye!
np:Handsome Boy Modeling School

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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:16:11 -0800 (PST)
From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby nominated for grammy!

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHEN THE GRAMMY'S WILL BE ON. IN
MICHIGAN? I'M NOT GOOD WITH THAT CENTRAL EASTERN TIME
SHIT.

MEGS.

- --- kimbalina <[e-mail]> wrote:
> [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > >our dear moby has been nominated twice for a
> grammy!!!  one is "best rock
> > >instrumental performance" for bodyrock and the
> other is "best alternative
> > >album" for play.  im super happy for moby!  hope
> he wins!
> >
>
> "Best Rock intrumental Performance"?  How'd they get
> that?  And "Best
> Alternative Album" oh, MOBY is *sooo* alternative.
> Gee, does "Alternative"
> still exist?  The lines have become so blured.
> Grunge used to be
> alternative, then it was pop rock, then it was rock
> that no one can really
> define, then it all went down the tubes with Boy
> Bands and Britt. Spears
> lookalikes and now those wanna be "R&B" ppl are
> known as "Pop".  I'm sooo
> confused.  Now there's the rap/rock bands and all
> those wussy heavy metal
> bands.  Where's my "Grunge"?  I'm feeling so
> disgruntled. :-)  I may have to
> shoot innocent radio's and tv's.
>
> --kimby
>
>
>
>

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