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mobility-digest        Friday, December 3 1999        Volume 03 : Number 047



Re: (mobility) moby's top 10 best/worst airports!!!
Re: (mobility) Moby posing for Playgirl!!
Re: (mobility) Re: some infidel dared to insult Soft
(mobility) what in the world is that sample saying in Honey ??
Re: (mobility) OT Moby posing for Playgirl!! (I wish)
Re: (mobility) what in the world is that sample saying in Honey ??
Re: (mobility) Animal Rights Rocks
Re: (mobility) Animal Rights Rocks
Re: (mobility) OT Playgirl
Re: (mobility) Re: some infidel dared to insult Soft
Re: (mobility) what in the world is that sample saying in Honey ??
Re: (mobility) amoxycillan
Re: (mobility) Re: some infidel dared to insult Soft
(mobility) Thanks 2
Re: (mobility) What's Moby up to for 2k party!!!
Re: (mobility) worst/most annoying Moby songs...
(mobility) TAKE ME OFF THE FUCKING LIST-SEND TO ALL AND FORWARD
Re: (mobility) amoxycillan

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:27:51 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's top 10 best/worst airports!!!

In a message dated 12/3/99 11:21:27 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< << moby's top 10 best airports: >>
 very informative.  where did you find this list?
  >>

i found it at the cdnow allstar newsletter thing.
here's the link:
http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/redirect/leaf=allstararticle/fid=157850

- -tina

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:50:19 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby posing for Playgirl!!

not so much..i do recall a rolling stone article on him back in like 95 where
he did pose naked...obviously covering his privates and all..i believe i have
that issue..and also back in 95 or so when he opened for the chili peppers
somewhere in europe, i belive he went onstage naked..you never know my
friends...peace..elie

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Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 12:04:41 EST
From: "Serena Horrigan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: some infidel dared to insult Soft

hmmm...it seems metal might be too strong a word to use for animal
rights.....i really see it as more old school punk influenced.....metal
conjusres up images of iron maiden and def leppard.....maybe metallica
though, since they were pretty influential  in a lot of punk/
hardcore....just my  opinion......but what is up with so many people not
appreciating moby's punk rock styling???
- -thanks-
:)djmiso and djshocktheshit


>From: TOMB <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: (mobility) Re: some infidel dared to insult Soft
>Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 08:32:29 +0000
>
>
> >My least favorite would have to be "Soft" or "Besame."
>
>You complete fool. Soft is an amazing metal song, one of the best on
>Animal Rights. Are you f*cking insane? What happened to all the metal
>people on the list?????????????????????????????Speak up now
>
>

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:16:06 -0500
From: Konboye Oyake <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) what in the world is that sample saying in Honey ??

Something Something Comeback - sometime
I wanna rap like that - sometime
I get a hump in my back - sometime
Move on over yeah/here - sometime


What is the voice really saying ....I can't understand it.

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Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 10:27:21 -0700
From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) OT Moby posing for Playgirl!! (I wish)

[e-mail] wrote:

>
>
> >-would you ever pose for any of these nudie mags? peace...elie

Not that MOBY isn't about the sexiest artist ever, but I don't think Playgirl
would ask him.  But who knows...?  My impression of that magazine is ureal
hunk boys who are way buff and way tan.  They're just fantasy eye candy like
Playboy chicks.  Does anybody really want someone who looks like a Ken doll or
a Barbie doll?

- --kimby

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Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 12:27:08 EST
From: "courtney colonna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) what in the world is that sample saying in Honey ??

you can look up the lyrics to honey at moby.org.

c


>From: Konboye Oyake <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: "Mobility (E-mail)" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: (mobility) what in the world is that sample saying in Honey ??
>Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:16:06 -0500
>
>
>Something Something Comeback - sometime
>I wanna rap like that - sometime
>I get a hump in my back - sometime
>Move on over yeah/here - sometime
>
>
>What is the voice really saying ....I can't understand it.
>

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Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 10:31:52 -0700
From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights Rocks

[e-mail] wrote:

>
> >you are entitled to your oppions but i must say that AR is THE best album ever
> >by moby. its so powerful, depressiing, inspring, happy, sad-every emotion
> >you could be is in this album. he puts so much effort into his work and it
> >shows on this one. really it does. but before anyone judges, listen to this
> >CD in its entirty then you may label it as what you will. listen to it and
> >feel the music
>

Dude, I think you just wrote one of those blurbs that they put in magazines. :-)

But really, I have listened to it all the way through, several times in fact and
the songs that speak the most (I think) are the instrumentals.  They are by far
some of the most touching songs I've heard from MOBY.  The "rock" songs are to me
(don't get offended) slightly imature, not in lyrics or effort but in sound.  I
think that MOBY could really stand to work on developing "rock" songs with less
mindless thrash and more, I dunno, umph....?  I think it's something he could work
on.  But he does well in whatever he does and I might feel more about the album in
a few years but that's just how I feel about now.  I don't think it's his best
work.  I think that there isn't really a best but that each album is special and
that I Like to Score is a good showcase of what he can do.

- --kimby

>
>

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:37:51 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights Rocks

In a message dated 12/03/1999 9:31:19 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<<   The "rock" songs are to me
 (don't get offended) slightly imature, not in lyrics or effort but in sound.
 I
 think that MOBY could really stand to work on developing "rock" songs with
less
 mindless thrash and more, I dunno, umph....? >>

I'm going to disagree.  The rock songs with the heavy thrashings have
beautiful sounds in them, just layered in so you have to actively listen..  I
just can't listen to animal rights all that much because it is so sadly
depressing and would make me want to jump off a bridge.

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Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 10:40:24 -0700
From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) OT Playgirl

Jane Browning wrote:

> >Equal respect for men and women and animals.
>
> Ok, here I go again, on a tangent....

I don't think that there is anything wrong with pornography, w/ buying it, w/
watching it, or with a man or a woman chosing to be in a porno book or movie.
I also don't think that all porn is disrespectful or w/o purpose.

If a woman chooses to be in a porn flick of her own free will, that's fine.
It's her body and I don't think anyone can tell her what to do w/ it.  If she
enjoys sex and wants to make money at it, fine.

I don't see anything wrong w/ renting pornos.  I think it can be fun,
theraputic and so much more.  Not all porn is tastefull but there is porn out
there that I feel can be educational for couples and mind opening.  And even if
you don't learn a new stroke from a video or some tolerance for other sexual
lifestyles then hey, maybe you get turned on and you and your lover can have a
good time.

Sex isn't the most important thing in the world but it certainly is important.
A human being needs food and water, shelter, selfconfidence and a healthy way
to express their sexuality.  Porn can be a healthy way for someone to deal w/ a
sexual fear, feeling or just plain have something to wank to (which is
important).

Ok, I'm not sure if I'm making sense but that's how I feel.  If you'll excuse
me, I'll be looking at Asia Carrera's web page. :-)

- --kimby

>
>
>

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 09:58:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Wigan Ludgate <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: some infidel dared to insult Soft

ok i never respond to anything on this list and i have
been on here about a year i think, i appreciate MOBY
fans more and this list more than any other because of
the fact that people who like MOBY just seem to know
more about music or different genres of music than
most people. we are required to be open to new sounds,
and that is why i love the people here, well, that and
the fact that this is the most knowledgeable group of
MOBY afficianados ever assembled and that MOBY himself
posts here.
a question, though: in my experience it seems that the
great divide between MOBY fans is a disagreement over
the pre-EIW music. I mean, everyone here seems to love
EIW unconditionally and if you loved the stuff before
it then you are such a MOBY fan that of course you
love everything since, but prior to EIW, it seems
there is a huge schism in the MOBY faithful. Anyone
else agree with this? Everyone makes a big deal about
AR as this record that put off MOBY's dance-purist
following, but i dont buy it. maybe it didnt recieve
the critical acclaim anticipated as a follow-up to
EIW, but who cares. The production on those guitars is
incredible, i have never heard anything like it. I
love AR, and i know several people who i let borrow it
who bought it just for the soft instrumental tracks,
which are fantastic too. Trying to define the
synthesis of anger in the roar of post-punk noise that
is AR's emotionally explosive tracks as any type of
metal just feels wrong to me. just my two cents. gbye.

chris

- --- Serena Horrigan <[e-mail]> wrote:
> hmmm...it seems metal might be too strong a word to
> use for animal
> rights.....i really see it as more old school punk
> influenced.....metal
> conjusres up images of iron maiden and def
> leppard.....maybe metallica
> though, since they were pretty influential  in a lot
> of punk/
> hardcore....just my  opinion......but what is up
> with so many people not
> appreciating moby's punk rock styling???
> -thanks-
> :)djmiso and djshocktheshit
>
>
> >From: TOMB <[e-mail]>
> >Reply-To: [e-mail]
> >To: [e-mail]
> >Subject: (mobility) Re: some infidel dared to
> insult Soft
> >Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 08:32:29 +0000
> >
> >
> > >My least favorite would have to be "Soft" or
> "Besame."
> >
> >You complete fool. Soft is an amazing metal song,
> one of the best on
> >Animal Rights. Are you f*cking insane? What
> happened to all the metal
> >people on the
> list?????????????????????????????Speak up now
> >
> >
>
>
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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:39:21 -0800 (PST)
From: DJ Pagan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) what in the world is that sample saying in Honey ??

- --- Konboye Oyake <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Something Something Comeback - sometime
> I wanna rap like that - sometime
> I get a hump in my back - sometime
> Move on over yeah/here - sometime

when my honey comes back, sometimes
i'm gonna rap that jack, sometimes
get a hump in my back, sometimes
i'm going over here, sometimes

way down yonder, sometimes
gonna get my pal, sometimes

Moby Lyrics
http://www.moby.org/lyrics/

=====
DJ Pagan
"Is it wrong that I sit in a dark
 closet and listen to Dead Cities?"
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Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 13:45:47 EST
From: "Serena Horrigan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) amoxycillan

hey no offense, but i really think that you can be a very enlightened
individual and have strong convictions that you practice, and still be able
to joke around on the internet....i hope that no one thinks they are saving
the world when they're on a website!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dj miso and djshocktheshit



>From: M <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: (mobility) amoxycillan
>Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 17:01:30 +1000
>
>  this conversation is inane and reminds me of being on the bus in
>highschool
>
>if you can ignore your primitive brain for a few minutes then maybe you'd
>like to think about our friends in seattle who are prepared to put their
>'money where their mouths are' rather than  talk about beliefs that don't
>cost them anything. its damn easy to preach love from your PC but a little
>harder when it might go on your permanent record
>
>moby is great becuase he is prepared to step outside a safe place and all
>you can talk about is fantasy sex lives that even aaron spelling could make
>up
>
>peace and thoughtfulness
>
>
>
>
>March
>

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:53:22 -0800 (PST)
From: DJ Pagan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: some infidel dared to insult Soft

- --- Wigan Ludgate <[e-mail]> wrote:
> a question, though: in my experience it seems
> that the great divide between MOBY fans is a
> disagreement over the pre-EIW music. I mean,
> everyone here seems to love EIW
> unconditionally and if you loved the stuff
> before it then you are such a MOBY fan that
> of course you love everything since, but prior
> to EIW, it seems there is a huge schism in
> the MOBY faithful.
>
> Anyone else agree with this?

Moby's art is a work in progress.  As time goes
by, he is developing his style, his music,
whether there is a particular style or not.  The
production techniques are getting better, the
right touch here or the right touch there is
getting better.

The first music that anyone heard of Moby
(mainstream anyway) is off of EIW.  The album is
great (w/ the exception of What Love IMHO), and
flows together wonderfully.  It really is a work
of art.  We'll call this filet mignon.

Now we look at the ground chuck of stuff that
happened before.  It's not bad stuff, nowhere
near bad, but it is less than par.  We live in a
world where everything needs to be bigger,
better, faster, more.  To throw ourselves back to
Moby's earlier stuff is hard, because it is less
refined.

Furthermore, much of those items were put out
without Moby's consent, or forced consent.  I
think Ambient is a beautiful album, but Moby
didn't want to put it out.  Instinct Records
screwed him over.

Finally, some of us can appreciate the roots of
where people come from.  To not do this isn't
bad, it's just putting yourself on a less
personal level with Moby.  Everything he does is
getting better.  It's this difference that
divides the fans.  You can see it in all fans of
a person with a hit records usually.  Green Day
fans come to mind.

> Everyone makes a big deal about AR as this
> record that put off MOBY's dance-purist
> following, but i dont buy it. maybe it didnt
> recieve the critical acclaim anticipated as
> a follow-up to EIW, but who cares.

A lot of people did, apparently.  I must admit
when I first picked up this album, I was shocked.
 I didn't know it was going to be a punk album,
and I kept skipping through the tracks looking
for a dance track.  I was almost mortified, then
cooled my senses listening to Little Idiot. :)

However, the album in retrospect is very good.
Well done, well... I don't have an ear for rock
music to make that assertion.  However, I can
listen to it over and over and not get sick of
it, so that must count for something.

=====
DJ Pagan
"Is it wrong that I sit in a dark
 closet and listen to Dead Cities?"
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Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 10:56:40 PST
From: "Robert Taylor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Thanks 2

Has this project been scrapped?

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:37:15 -0500 (EST)
From: "Jared M. Willig" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) What's Moby up to for 2k party!!!

Junior Vasquez is spinning at Twilo for New Years Eve.

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, DJ Pagan wrote:

> --- wolfgang friedlich <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
> > anyone no, cuz it looks like i'm comin' down to
> > NY for New Years, any suggestions on places to
>
> Go to Twilo.  You will be sorry if you don't. :)

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:44:24 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) worst/most annoying Moby songs...

In a message dated 12/2/99 2:39:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< [e-mail] >>

to answer yer question, yes, i believe "revolver" is not moby's song. i
remember someone was criticizing him hard core saying he had to change the
lyrics to get it to air on mtv or something. whoever it was SUCKS! but we all
know moby is capable of producing his own brilliant music, so who cares, ya
know?
peace out
ariel

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:04:53 -0600
From: "SomeNothingNess" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) TAKE ME OFF THE FUCKING LIST-SEND TO ALL AND FORWARD

- ----- Original Message -----
From: <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: (mobility) worst/most annoying Moby songs...


> In a message dated 12/2/99 2:39:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> << [e-mail] >>
>
> to answer yer question, yes, i believe "revolver" is not moby's song. i
> remember someone was criticizing him hard core saying he had to change the
> lyrics to get it to air on mtv or something. whoever it was SUCKS! but we
all
> know moby is capable of producing his own brilliant music, so who cares,
ya
> know?
> peace out
> ariel
>
>
>

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:59:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Ben Nelson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) amoxycillan

> >  this conversation is inane and reminds me of
> being on the bus in
> >highschool
> >
> >if you can ignore your primitive brain for a few
> minutes then maybe you'd
> >like to think about our friends in seattle who are
> prepared to put their
> >'money where their mouths are' rather than  talk
> about beliefs that don't
> >cost them anything. its damn easy to preach love
> from your PC but a little
> >harder when it might go on your permanent record
> >
HONESTLY PEOPLE THIS IS MAKING ME SICK! THIS IS A
MAILING LIST FOR MOBY AND OTHER TECHNO INFO! THIS IS
NOT A PLACE YOUR YOUR FUCKIN FLAME WARS!!  I HAVE
NOTHING AGINST CONTRAVERSY AND DISCUSSION.  BUT THIS
IS SERIOUSLY PISSING ME OFF!! IF YOUR GONNA CLOD THE
LIST WITH THIS CRAP IM LEAVING PLEASE FIGHT BETWEEN
YOUR EMAILS AND NOT THE LIST
SINCERELY,
ONE PISSED OFF DJ
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