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mobility-digest       Tuesday, November 9 1999       Volume 03 : Number 024



(mobility) out-of-synch vox
(mobility) Re: I need to get some f**king sleep
(mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0
Re: (mobility) moby pic & WDMHFSB? video
Re: (mobility) out-of-synch vox
Re: (mobility) ATB remix
(mobility) words
Re: (mobility) Underworld and Moby lyrics...
(mobility) FWD: Moby news
Re: (mobility) FWD: Moby news
(mobility) *off topic* I KNEW IT! (aphex twin stuff)
(mobility) Q Magazine & New Years
Re: (mobility) ATB remix
(mobility) Playing JBmix at school
RE: (mobility) ATB remix
Re: (mobility) smoking
Re: (mobility) Animals.  Combustion.

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 14:53:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) out-of-synch vox

> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 21:50:20 -0600
> From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: (mobility) ATB remix
>
> >> Has anyone else listened to WDMHFSB (atb remix)
> >> and been reminded of Aqua's "Barbie Girl"?
> >
> >I'm going to pretend I didn't hear this. ;)
>
> Ha! Too late! You won't be able to listen to it
> again. :)
>
> What about the way the music is out-of-tune with
> some of the vocals?
>


damn i HATE when vocal samples are like that!!!! like,
on the Bush remix cd (sorry, i had to get it for
Goldie and Tricky and MBM and besides i used to like
Bush) the remixes for "Everything Zen" and i think a
few others.. theyre all fucked up! like, don't people
notice this?

whatever, its not like its easy. i could never
properly remix something like that.

i heard the Ferry corsten mix, i think. its not bad,
but well i dont really think any mixes could ever
replace originals. whatever, bye!


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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 01:31:08 +0000
From: TOMB <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: I need to get some f**king sleep

mobility-digest wrote:
> >cryptic lyrics, like a Bob Dylan of techno.
> try Underworld if you want that kind of stuff. Amazing lyrics...
>

Hang on, what about Faithless???????????????????????

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Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 21:26:04 -0500
From: The Nelson Family <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0

does anyone know any record shops in the MD area that has a fairly large
techno section? also who know where i can get some house voice sample CDs
for my home studio?

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 23:00:52 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby pic & WDMHFSB? video

I saw the WDMHFSD single in a record store, and when I saw the "adorable
little idiot" in the barrel, I smiled and giggled....everyone looked at me
funny...I felt.... Stupid.. I love little idiot!!!! Oh yes... I havnt seen
the video yet....but looking for it... (Too much VH1.... Bad for my head!!)

                             ~Felicia

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 00:51:33 -0500
From: "Raven" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) out-of-synch vox

> damn i HATE when vocal samples are like that!!!! like,
> on the Bush remix cd (sorry, i had to get it for
> Goldie and Tricky and MBM and besides i used to like
> Bush) the remixes for "Everything Zen" and i think a
> few others.. theyre all fucked up! like, don't people
> notice this?

What I hate is when different samples are out of sync.  Even a couple of
Moby tracks are like this.  I love the b-side "Sunday", but I really do not
like the beginning sound that's kind of moving back and forth.  :P  It's
just out of sync with the rest of what's going on.

A *lot* of techno has that problem, and it drives me nuts.  You'd notice it
in any other kind of music.  It's like a rock band where everyone's playing
one song, except the drummer, who's playing some complete different and
improvised song inspired by the voices in his head.  (this seems to happen
quite often to local bands)  :P

Chris

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 00:58:46 -0600 (CST)
From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) ATB remix

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 [e-mail] wrote:
> I wouldn't categorize most of Moby's music as pop techno.  Yeah there's

> to make people cry while they're driving to work is not kosher.  I mean I've
> never heard when its cold i'd like to die on the radio or even played outside
> my cd-player.  And that's the stuff that moves me.  And personally,  i tire
> of the poppy songs quickly and usually skip to the more meaningful ones.

i aggree, most of the really great moby stuff is non-pop.
also, i play "when it's cold..." often on my radio show. i'm talking
100,000 watts here. you should listen! go to www.kumd.org on tuesday
nights from 9-11pm central an listen to me! call me at 1-800-566-KUMD and
tell me you're out there and request something!
[xaq]

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 01:02:08 -0600 (CST)
From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) words

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, jj fish wrote:

> I've always wanted to have somebody make dance songs with intelligent or
> cryptic lyrics, like a Bob Dylan of techno. I enjoyed Machete alot because
> it kind of got the feel I was looking for

well, i can't go along with that bob dylan guy, but like it has been
said, underworld and faithless have some good vocals. of course i also
love aphex twin's vocals on his past few records, like that milkman
song...weee!

[xaq]

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 01:07:44 -0600 (CST)
From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Underworld and Moby lyrics...

someone mentioned underworld and "dirty epic." oh god, the words to that
are on par with "when it's cold i'd like to die." "iiiiiiiiiiiiii'm
sooooo diiiiirty..." and "and we all went, mental, and danced." oh i love
that song.

"dirty dirty dirty.....polyester chicken..."
oooh! i need sleep!
[xaq]
"i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop.
             but i really enjoy thinking."
             Masafumi Sanai-photographer

              www.d.umn.edu/~zbentz/

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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 05:47:47 -0700
From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) FWD: Moby news

> >Hey I heard on the radio this morning that Moby is coming again. But he is
> >playing with a bunch of retarded bands. Its like in mid or late December at
> >Desert Sky. It's some christmas with no snow festival they are calling it. SO
> >the other bands that I remember were Blink 182, and 311 heheheh 311 nasty.
> >What do you think is possesing moby to play with those 2 bands. I think like
> >2 other bands were mentioned but I don't remember whe they were. SO I just
> >thought I would let you know. Desert Sky is kinda lame and I don't know how
> >much it would be. SO what else. I don't know. That's all........ed

My best friend sent me this.  So if any one else lives in AZ, here ya go.  I
agree w/ her though, I mean, common 311?

Hey, how many ppl on the list *do* live in AZ?  I think Michaela (sp?) lives here
in Tucson.  Anyone else?

- --kimby

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 11:56:12 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) FWD: Moby news

In a message dated 11/09/1999 4:48:27 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< My best friend sent me this.  So if any one else lives in AZ, here ya go.
I
 agree w/ her though, I mean, common 311?

 Hey, how many ppl on the list *do* live in AZ?  I think Michaela (sp?) lives
here
 in Tucson.  Anyone else? >>

Well I live in So. Cal, but Arizona's not that big of a drive.... Like 4
hours I think...  I would so go, cuz I like Blink, they're funny.  But 311?
They're time passed years ago.  But why Arizona?

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 10:08:55 -0700
From: "daley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) *off topic* I KNEW IT! (aphex twin stuff)

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:13:35 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Q Magazine & New Years

Well I just picked up the newest Q magazine in the vague hope they'd have a
review of Bt's cd (yeah right).  But in one of they're little blurby side
bars (Air time i think) they were very very rude to moby.  They were raving
about Play of course, but they called him a baldy-vegan (not bad, but they
gave it a negative connotation) and called him a bore.  I have never put the
words Moby and bore together in as long as I've know about him.  I really was
about to hurl that damn stogy ass magazine out the window..  I though
American magazines overlooked the genius, I guess mainstream british pubs are
just as bad... Least RS rated Everything is Wrongs as one of the greatest
albums of the 90's (which was very very cool)... Grr.. totally ruined my
evening until I saw that cute Moby picture in RS...

Ne a hoo ~ anyone know if Moby's doing a New Year's gig?  I know there's some
huge techno legends thing in England which made me very upset, but that's not
really his scene anymore with Play.  Ne 1 know?  Any one? Any one?  What a
way that would be to bring in the new decade (and it's not the millenium so
it extends the fun over 2 years)  =)

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:34:05 -0500
From: "nelson-family" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) ATB remix

me again
I am proud to anounce that i will be playing the Moby James Bond mix at my
school!  I convinced the faculty to let me(some how) anyway i will be using
a BOSS dr202 Dr.Sample, Boss Dr660 drum machine a yamaha electric
cello(suprise!)and a zeta electric violin.  Ill be covered in wires and
other junk at the performance from all the equipment.  Anyone got
anysuggestions on how to make this performance better?

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 19:08:53 +0100
From: Jonathan Ruano <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Playing JBmix at school

On Tue, Nov 09, 1999 at 12:34:05PM -0500, nelson-family wrote:

> I am proud to anounce that i will be playing the Moby James Bond mix at my
> school!  I convinced the faculty to let me(some how) anyway i will be using
> a BOSS dr202 Dr.Sample, Boss Dr660 drum machine a yamaha electric
> cello(suprise!)and a zeta electric violin.
Wow.. that sounds cool... That reminded me a version of Kraftwerk's
"We are the robots", performed by a string quartet... Most amazing was
the cellos (I swear) that seemed to pronounce that "We are the
robots".. My skin always get chickenish when I listen to it.

> Ill be covered in wires and
> other junk at the performance from all the equipment.  Anyone got
> anysuggestions on how to make this performance better?
I'd like to get to listen to it...

By the way, and (more or less) talking about versions... Do you know
if there has been any strings version of some Moby song ? I'd like the
guys that recorded Kraftwerk's do the same with some Moby's...


- --
Jonathan Ruano Pach                Email: <[e-mail]>
ICQ:1252101 AIM:Tlabok IRC:Kobalt  Homepage: http://www.encomix.es/~jonah

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:27:25 -0800
From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) ATB remix

hmm popping in the cd and pressing play would be good enough :P
Chris

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To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) ATB remix


me again
I am proud to anounce that i will be playing the Moby James Bond mix at my
school!  I convinced the faculty to let me(some how) anyway i will be using
a BOSS dr202 Dr.Sample, Boss Dr660 drum machine a yamaha electric
cello(suprise!)and a zeta electric violin.  Ill be covered in wires and
other junk at the performance from all the equipment.  Anyone got
anysuggestions on how to make this performance better?

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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 13:28:54 -0800
From: Laura <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) smoking

> You're equivocating on the meaning of drugs.
> When he said drugs, he meant illegal,
> mind-altering, addictive narcotics.  You are
> speaking of the parmecutical kind, totally
> irrelevant.

some people wouldn't say so.  it's always society's call as to whether a
drug is bad, whether it's illegal (or hey, even whether it's
mind-altering).

> > Why is it okay for people to die in car
> > wrecks and of alcohol poisoning from alcohol,
> > but it's not okay for someone to OD on heroin?
>
> I don't think either is okay, not many people
> would.

by "allowing" people to continue doing it, they are saying it is okay.
if we, as a people, didn't think it was okay, alcoholic beverages would
be illegal, or at least any negative behavior stemming from their use
would be punished much more harshly.

> > Of course
> > drugs are bad.  Why?  Because they are!
>
> No, most people would say that they cause
> addiction . . . Few people say they are bad "because they are".

if you ask a little kid, "why are drugs bad?" what will she say?  *I*
was just trying to say, however ineloquently, that we're told what is
good and what is bad for us, and we usually accept it without
questioning it.  How could "Reefer Madness" happen otherwise?

laura

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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 13:48:32 -0800
From: Laura <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animals.  Combustion.

>  LAura...
> I visited your little pro vegan link about cows..
> and honestly I didn't see anything really brutal and cruel

my little pro vegan link.
maybe there wasn't anything shocking there--i didn't feel like spending 27 hours
looking for sites with explicit pictures on them just to satisfy people who
aren't going to care, anyway.

> ...the industry
> isn't perfect, so some cows get the bad luck..who really fucking
> cares...THERE ARE BIGGER PROBLEMS in the world right now, maybe you should
> post some url's on actual HUMANS getting stacked in close spaces and being
> persecuted for their beliefs and being killed and shot in streets and dying
> of hunger, if you would stop worrying about the damn cows, you think those
> people who are all emaciated and dying of hunger care if they eat a
> vegetable or meat...

yes, i do think they care. some of them.  i think you're missing my point, tho.
i couldn't give a fuck if a life is human or animal, they're worth the same
thing to me.  discounting personal affections of course.  don't say "ya, you'd
be singin a different tune if your mom was gonna die," because that's stupid.
as a matter of fact, i have human rights links on my site, and human rights
stickers on my car.  but i'm not going to have a disclaimer on everything i say,
that "Hey, i dont just like animals, guys, I like people, too! so please like
me!" in a more or less unrelated conversation.

> heh, re-evaluate the situation, and you can see that
> your vegetarian views aren't practical at all for the world's population

MY views aren't practical for the world's population?  are you blind? or
stupid?  can you not see that, besides the fact that people are eating
themselves to death, the earth is being raped to make room for cows, and other
animal farming.  you can feed up to 21 times as many people with an acre of
plants as you can with an acre of land where cows graze.  How is that
impractical?  With all the starving people all over, as you were so wont to
bring up, why can't we use that land to feed 21 times as many people?  do you
really think they care whether they're eating vegetables or meat?

>
> ...and like no shit, showing me pictures of raw meat and cows hanging from
> hooks and such and their scraps doesn't gross me out.  Like what did you
> think I would expect it to be, somehow they just vaporize the meat off the
> cows neatly? :P  Blah.....if  you see some pictures of lions ripping apart
> zebras, you'll probably think lions are cruel too...

you said cows are all outside, frolicking in the meadows.  i showed you pictures
of cows inside, in crates.  i think lions do what they need to do to survive.
in nature.  i think we do what we want to do, no matter who it hurts (which does
include us, as humans).  obviously, if i don't eat meat, i won't die.  but a
lion might.

> as for Moby riding a bike everywhere...ok that is not going to
> happen..considering I see a big red tour bus at each on of his gigs that
> emits more carbon monoxide than a car would.

dude, i really did not think that he carried all his tour shit on his bike.  i'm
talking about like, going to a store that's a half a mile away, something like
that.  i don't know about his lifestyle, only what i've heard.  and from someone
as vehemently anti-combustion engine as he is, i would suspect he doesn't drive
a car when he could ride his bike, practically.  but i don't know.  i don't know
the man.

> Some "ideas" that people have aren't practical at the time..instead of
> people saying it is all wrong and bad bad bad...maybe they should find
> another more practical solution...
> heh, it's like...for us not to be totally cruel to animals, we cann only eat
> vegetables...

i understand that, likely, all humans will never become vegetarians (at least of
their own volition).  But, with that in mind, i would be ecstatic to know that
cows are treated well while they're alive, and are killed with as much kindness
as possible.  There is more than just the two extremes.. it's just usually the
extremists who speak out.  i think you would be surprised by how many people
would be satisfied with just the humane treatment of animals raised for meat.

> for us to stop pollution, we must ride bikes and not cars

you're simplifying things to make other people look bad.  no one said that you
have to ride a bike in order to stop pollution.  people *are* looking at other
options, or there wouldn't be electric cars right now.  The issue has to be
brought up, however, in order for people to want to change it.  should we not
talk about it?

> and
> to stop the rainforest from falling we must stop using paper...
> like ok, those are solutions..but they sure as hell aren't practical...

why aren't they practical?  because people are lazy, because they don't like
change?  most people aren't asking you to stop using paper. they're asking for
you to recycle, and for companies to use renewable resources rather than old
growth and rainforest trees.

> I didn't know why you insisted on brining this back up again, because I
> thought opinions were resolved.
>

i haven't been around for a while, my friend.  and my opinion will never be
resolved with most other people's opinions.  and that is why i'm not going to be
posting about veganism or animals anymore.  or anything else except moby.  and
cheese.

>
> please get back to Moby's music or something related to it..because this is
> as practical really as arguing religion

practical practical practical

maybe my views are impractical.  but so are yours.  and i don't see how me
sitting on my ass and keeping quiet about what i think is going to help
*anyone,* least of all me.  and if you're so tired of people coming up with
impractical solutions, why don't you come up with some practical solutions of
your own?

laura

ps:  i wonder if moby made a post about veganism if it would be off topic :)

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