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From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V2 #148 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes mobility-digest Tuesday, October 5 1999 Volume 02 : Number 148 Re: (mobility) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 19:26:18 PDT Re: (mobility) NMR values... (mobility) Run On (Not Moby's) RE: (mobility) mango and more... (mobility) Run On Lyrics + Update Re: (mobility) 1984 + vague moby linkage Re: (mobility) Run On (Not Moby's) RE: (mobility) mango and more... RE: (mobility) 5% club (was Issues and flames) Re: (mobility) Run On (Not Moby's) (mobility) Nonsense ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 06:45:34 EDT From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 19:26:18 PDT In a message dated 10/4/99 11:08:37 PM Central Daylight Time, kimbalina@earthlink.net writes: <> I dont watch Tv ither, so that would be soo verry awsome if someone told the people who dont watch tv often like kimby and I if Moby is gunna be on....Do tell! hehe..... anyways.... ~Felicia ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 06:46:57 EDT From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) NMR values... In a message dated 10/4/99 11:15:03 PM Central Daylight Time, zbentz@d.umn.edu writes: << mtv is destroying the creativity of millions of kids every day even if YOU hit "off". don't just turn it off, burn it down. >> I agree, "Kill your Tv" ~Felicia ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 07:26:24 -0500 From: Rob Skipworth <rskipwo@punkass.com> Subject: (mobility) Run On (Not Moby's) Hi there, I was over at my grandma's house a while back and I happened up on a small stack of tapes. I looked through and found one by a gospel trio from Oklahoma. I don't know why but I picked it up and looked over the track listing. Believe it or not the very first track is "Run On For A Long Time." Its a crazy jazzy, swinging version. Its a lot slower than moby's version. Also.. I remembered the discussion on the lyrics.... so I thought I would listen to this version. I'm not saying that this is definitely what the moby version says.... but the rest of the lyrics match, so i don't see why this one wouldn't. Anyway... According to the Osceola Gospel Trio from Oklahoma City, Oklahoma the lyric is as follows "Some people go to church just to sit and defy, trying to make a date with the neighbor's wife" - ----------rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:10:30 -0400 From: "Russell, Shera" <SMRussell@Venable.com> Subject: RE: (mobility) mango and more... This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF0F33.001E97EA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm not from Philly but I plan on going to Engage in November. I can't wait either!!!! Shera - -----Original Message----- From: morag doodikins [mailto:disco_starr@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, October 03, 1999 9:39 PM To: mobility@lists.xmission.com Subject: (mobility) mango and more... did anyone else go to mango this weekend?...Two of the djs played bodyrock, (the third remix on the single), throughout the night. i was so happy when i heard it. venom also compleatly rocked... is anyone from philly going to see Moby at Engage over thanksgiving?...i'm can't wait.. *freyja* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ********************************************************************** This electronic mail transmission may contain confidential or privileged information. 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Shera -----Original Message----- From: morag doodikins [<A HREF="mailto:disco_starr@yahoo.com">mailto:disco_starr@yahoo.com</A>] Sent: Sunday, October 03, 1999 9:39 PM To: mobility@lists.xmission.com Subject: (mobility) mango and more... did anyone else go to mango this weekend?...Two of the djs played bodyrock, (the third remix on the single), throughout the night. i was so happy when i heard it. venom also compleatly rocked... is anyone from philly going to see Moby at Engage over thanksgiving?...i'm can't wait.. *freyja* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at <A HREF="http://auctions.yahoo.com" TARGET="_blank">http://auctions.yahoo.com</A> <CODE> ********************************************************************** This electronic mail transmission may contain confidential or privileged information. If you believe that you have received the message in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or disclosing it. ********************************************************************** </CODE></BODY> </HTML> - ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF0F33.001E97EA-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:34:19 +0200 From: "Bart van Eijck" <eijck@IAE.nl> Subject: (mobility) Run On Lyrics + Update First of all I feel I must apologize for all the Moby related stuff in this e-mail. I couldn't think of some boring off-topic thing to fill everybodys mailboxes with.... Oh wait, here's something: THE GOLDEN RULES - ---------------- 1. Please keep the discussion on the list confined to that revolving around Moby, his record label Trophy, and the pseudonyms thereof. For example, while Puff Daddy may be a great artist to some, most members of the list don't really care since it's not related to Moby. 2. Please keep in mind basic netiquette when making postings to the list. When replying to a message, try to quote only the sections of the original message that are relevant to reply and EDIT the rest. Avoid using excessively long signatures -- while they may look fancy remember that people will see them on your every posting and will start to looked tired real quick (four lines is a good size). 3. Try to keep messages relevant to the list's topic (no general advertisements, "warnings" about viruses, chain letters, and so forth). The list manager has final say on whether a topic is welcome on the list; please do your best to follow his guidance. 4. The messages you send are going out to hundreds of other people. Please think twice before posting flames or extremely large messages to the list. You should *never* send graphics or audio files to the list - -- doing so may result in your subscription being canceled. 5. When posting to the list, make sure you are using the same address that you subscribed with!!! Any address submitted to the mailing list that is unrecognized will be returned to the sender and will not be seen by the list members, no exceptions. ================================================ thank you for reading....and now for some Moby: >some people go to church just to signify >trying to make a date with a neighbor's wife >brother let me tell you just as sure as you're born >you better leave that woman alone It's "signify" or Moby himself is wrong... I have a recording of Run On live and those who have seen him perform Run On live know that Moby sings the vocals himself for this song. He clearly says "signify" But peronally I believe Rob is probably right with his: "Some people go to church just to sit and defy, trying to make a date with the neighbor's wife" Oh, and I found another Moby remix recently on eBay: - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- MAKE IT MINE (promo) [The Shamen, 1992] US promo CD, Epic, ESK-4548 1 3:39 Make It Mine (Oh-Moby 7" Edit) 2 3:31 Make It Mine (Album Version) 3 3:13 Make It Mine (Alternative Radio Edit) As you can see it has a Moby mix that's not on the regular CD, but hold your horses, in general it's just a short version of the 'Manhattan Mix' The credits for this mix are: "Remix and additional production by Moby" "7" edit by Omar Santana" Yes, the NY gabber hardcore Omar Santana. I didn't know he's been in the house scene for such a long time. The album version is mixed by Omar's collegue Lenny D (also a US gabber Dj/producer!) It surprises me there isn't a Rob Gee mix on the single :) I also got my 'Revolver' promo CD today with the 'Over Version' of the song on it. You know.. 'that's when I realize it's over..'etc. I had never heard this one before, pretty weird when you're used to 'that's when I reach for my revolver'.... (<>,,<>) np: Moby - Natural Blues ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 14:43:45 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) From: Tim Beecher <T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk> Subject: Re: (mobility) 1984 + vague moby linkage Okay, we definitely know the horrors of Kosovo, perpetrated by both the Serb army and Albanian KLA guerillas happened, but media propaganda on both sides is also a reality, including the news we are fed by the western media. We are selectively given information to benefit powerful companies and governments in many ways. There are objective truths in what is being reported, but not all truth is given, and there can be many different reasons. For example, we don't always hear about 10 year old children in Sierra Leonne being kidnapped and drugged and then forced to kill people, sometimes even their own family, and the group responsible is supplied arms by western governments, for their own political agenda or just plain greed. There is money in war, especially when most arms are bought from the U.S. and Europe. Plus, I think the majority of people are conformists, or are forced to conform - no other choice. Otherwise the capitalist machine that drives the present world 'order' would not be functioning. That's an objective reality for many - especially those in the third world. TMB On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:25:12 -0700 (PDT) DJ Pagan <djpagan@yahoo.com> wrote: > --- jj fish <corrugatedfunk@hotmail.com> wrote: > > how do we know, in fact, that the Kosovo thing > > happened? i think it did, but there are only 6 > > major sources for news in the world. they > > control what goes in and out. > > You are a conspiracy theorists guy if you believe > this. It's the old argument from suppressed > evidence... denying evidence that exists that > contradicts your conclusion. > > > i think the average government needs wars, etc, > > to distract the average citizen's mind to an > > abstract "cause." in a way. > > Nope. To think that the government is working > collectively (they can't even work together > without bickering about party side), is just > nonsense. We can't even get the mail right, let > alone develop a long-term plan of subverting > entire populations (which they came from) to the > abstract cause. The time for wars is almost > over. The time for business is upon us. Which > is currently out of our government's hands at > least. > > > how do we know what's coming in thru our media? > > Whatever you want it to be. > > > and obviously, there are agendas being pushed. > > the whole consumerism=entertainment we've > > gotten into disgusts me. > > I don't think I've fallen into this as well. > Humans are greedy by nature, and want payback for > anything that they do. Therefore, if someone is > promoting a musician, the act of promotion > requires we pay them something for it. I don't > think to participate in entertainment you > absolutely must devote your life to the dollar, > but not much in the world is free anymore. > > > and plus, our whole society is geared into a > > violent way of thinking. we celebrate > > "heroes" like Columbus (who wore a string of > > indian ears!), etc. > > I hate Columbus. I really do. I also think it's > funny we still have a slave-owner on the > one-dollar bill because he was the "first" white, > male bureaucrat to be in our nation. > > > we learn about Napolean and Caesar. they are > > regarded as great military geniuses and > > strategists. they were, but they are honored, > > when in fact, i feel, they were murderers. > > I've never, ever been taught to revere Napoleon > OR Caeser (unless you count Planet of the > Apes...). They were murderers only in the sense > that we were stealing the land we have from > Native Americans. Conquest is always justified > in the eyes of the victors. Manifest Dynasty has > always been my biggest problem with American > Culture. > > > i find it funny that worldviews such as moby's > > are considered radical. > > I do find this interesting, but then again, I > find a lot of things interesting. > > > while honoring murderers and bigots with > > national holidays, etc, is the norm! > > Most people don't even know why we get Columbus > day off. I for one, don't care. It's another > day off for me, which I'd probably spend working > on something else. > > > just random thoughts from a 16-year old > > pretentious nonconformist > > Nonconformity is kind of silly nowadays, when a > majority of people are "nonconforming". Stick to > personal morals, don't label yourself as a > nonconformist, you only set yourself up for > criticism and hassle. You don't need either, > trust me. > > I have to dig my way out of the other > conversation now... > > ===== > DJ Pagan > "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark > closet and listen to Dead Cities?" > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > - ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:24:16 -0500 From: Christopher Michael Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) Run On (Not Moby's) Cool!! Hey, is it the exact recording that moby sampled from, in otherwords, is the individual singing the same one as on the Moby track? Also, is it possible for you to make copies--prefereably in mp3 format, if we ask really nicely? Either that or post detailed info on the recording--what year, group, record company, serial number etc...? >Hi there, > I was over at my grandma's house a while back and I happened up on a small >stack of tapes. I looked through and found one by a gospel trio from >Oklahoma. I don't know why but I picked it up and looked over the track >listing. Believe it or not the very first track is "Run On For A Long Time." >Its a crazy jazzy, swinging version. Its a lot slower than moby's version. > >Also.. >I remembered the discussion on the lyrics.... so I thought I would listen to >this version. I'm not saying that this is definitely what the moby version >says.... but the rest of the lyrics match, so i don't see why this one >wouldn't. > >Anyway... According to the Osceola Gospel Trio from Oklahoma City, Oklahoma the >lyric is as follows > >"Some people go to church just to sit and defy, trying to make a date with the >neighbor's wife" > > >----------rob > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:15:02 -0400 From: Danielle Logue <dlogue@SHAPBLOCK.com> Subject: RE: (mobility) mango and more... Moby's going to be in Philly? More info please!! I'm only about an hour and a half from there! Danielle > -----Original Message----- > From: morag doodikins [SMTP:disco_starr@yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, October 03, 1999 9:39 PM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (mobility) mango and more... > > did anyone else go to mango this weekend?...Two of the > djs played bodyrock, (the third remix on the single), > throughout the night. i was so happy when i heard it. > venom also compleatly rocked... is anyone from philly > going to see Moby at Engage over thanksgiving?...i'm > can't wait.. > *freyja* > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:17:33 -0400 From: Danielle Logue <dlogue@SHAPBLOCK.com> Subject: RE: (mobility) 5% club (was Issues and flames) What ever happened to the little * we decided to put in the subject line for irrelevant topics? I thought that was a good idea. That way people can delete off topic messages right away, and those who like off topic messages can click on and know what they're getting into. Danielle > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Orion Davis [SMTP:ddavis@lonestarstrategies.com] > Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 6:12 AM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (mobility) 5% club (was Issues and flames) > > > > > In a message dated 10/4/99 3:11:30 AM Central Daylight Time, > > Matej.Novotny@st.fmph.uniba.sk writes: > > > > << anyone else want to join our 5% club ? Felicia, I'm with you! > > > > kohut. > > >> > > > > Awsome! Its fun when people put irrelevent things on the list! > Anyone > else? > > > > ~Felicia > > > > Oh yeah, me too...I'm hear to talk to Moby fans....not JUST to talk > about > Moby....I care much more about a lot of the irrelevancies than I do > about > video rotation, chart placement, and other mundanities...let's all > give a > big WOO HOO for irrelavancies! > > Daniel > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 09:42:20 -0500 From: Rob Skipworth <rskipwo@punkass.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Run On (Not Moby's) No..... this is definitely not the song that moby sampled from. There is a band backing the singers and he said that all of the samples were acapella. Also, hmmm..... how do i put it.... well.. its a lot dorkier than the song he sampled. I can picture wayne newton singing along while snapping his fingers (no offense to wayne newton fans :) I made my grandma listen to moby's version and she wasn't real impressed, however my mom agreed that moby's was better. I'm not sure about when and where it was released, but its definitely independent. The J-card appears to have been photocopied ;) I'll get an mp3 up in a few days if you people really wanna hear it. Its rather amusing to hear after being awed by moby's version. - -----rob Christopher Michael Bourke wrote: > Cool!! Hey, is it the exact recording that moby sampled from, in > otherwords, is the individual singing the same one as on the Moby track? > Also, is it possible for you to make copies--prefereably in mp3 format, if > we ask really nicely? Either that or post detailed info on the > recording--what year, group, record company, serial number etc...? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 8:52:35 -0700 From: michael.demattei@milliman.com Subject: (mobility) Nonsense If Moby had to join an established group who would you have it be? I was thinking the Beastie Boys would be a good fit=2E They are about the same age and they have common ground in NYC, hip-hop and punk rock=2E The politics are compatible=2E The BB could=20= use Moby's touch, and Moby could still plug in the old guitar from time to time=2E My wacky answer would be Slayer--that would be a great album! As for techno supergods, just imagine an FSOL or Orbital team-up=2E Deemo np: Duke Ellington (nice wake-up music) ------------------------------ End of mobility-digest V2 #148 ****************************** ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility-digest" in the body.