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mobility-digest       Tuesday, September 7 1999       Volume 02 : Number 117



Re: (mobility) Moby's Birthday
(mobility) silk harm V2 #115
Re: (mobility) pittsburgh
(mobility) Mazzy's Hope
Re: (mobility) James Bond 3" CD
Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians?
Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians?
Re: (mobility) Chicken
Re: (mobility) Baptism and Communion
Re: (mobility) diets b12 V2 #114
Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians?
Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians?
(mobility) is there a moby show in the boston area soon?
(mobility) moby & tori amos?
Re: (mobility) Moby's Birthday
(mobility) mission impossible2 soundtrack
Re: (mobility) Questions for Moby
(mobility) insects
(mobility) Re:sugar
(mobility) milk
(mobility) moby's bday
(mobility) New Writer Intro
(mobility) Pumpkins Fan Rob

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:58:43 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's Birthday

Moby's birthday is September 11.  So only FOUR days to go...

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 22:01:40 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Heidi Gronman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) silk harm V2 #115

> Kyle L Yeates wrote:
>  i also wear silk shirts because i have this
> > whole thing with insects not being real.

according studies (don't ask!) silkworms die fast and without suffering.
in silkfarms it's done by using boiling steam. so it's somewhat better to
use silk than f.e. wool, which is mainly produced in australia, and
treating lambs in massproduction is not very friendly. as far as i know
(and i think australia is quite far) australianlambs' asses are operated
so that they won't spoil that precious wool. and that operation hurts.

but, then again: i find it still much reasonable, friendly, better, more
beautiful, tolerant etc etc to ENJOY about whatever you do.
whatever. it's up to everyone's own feeling what feels good and what's
not. i am sorry to preach tonight about veganstuff, i hope i don't make
anyone loose nerves. or to get sad.

at least animals can't remember in the same way as people do. they live in
now. in this moment. they don't have to carry their memories of past
happens with them. f.e. your pet certainly is delighted when you two meet,
but it doesn't suffer from your nonexistence in the same sense as people
do. (this whole rant doesn't include monkeys, our cousins, btw )i hope
this helps if someone started to feel bad for what have been said or
something.

but i'm still sending this cos there might be someone who didn't know and
wants to get information all the same. though i bet that f.e. any website
of animalrights or vegan-group would give better information.

oh yes, i'm vegan, 33, brusher. and preacher, i'm afraid.
h, the ultimate besserwisser
stay healthy, or else...! :)

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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 13:46:14 -0400
From: Jeff <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) pittsburgh

Jeff!

I hope that you're listening to WYEP right now--Moby's the guest DJ.  He's
playing "Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad" right now.

Hope to see ya tonight!

Jeff


On 11:44 AM 9/7/99 -0400, jeff cubeta uttered...
>okay - in about six hours, i'm going to meet moby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>jeff
>
>

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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 13:22:55 PDT
From: "Robert Taylor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Mazzy's Hope

Yes, Hope from Mazzy Star appears on the song "Asleep From Day"
from the Chemical Brothers latest CD Surrender. It is a brilliant
song that perfectly blends Mazzy Star's haunting vocals with the
Chemical Brothers brooding production.

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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 16:57:33 -0400
From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) James Bond 3" CD

I don't know about America and England or the country yo uare from Bart
(sorry!) but about 80% of the CD singles that come out in Japan are of
the 3 inch variety. PErsonally, I get tired of them really quick since
they can't fit into changers except some 5 disc trays... But I left that
at home for my 300 disc one and have to hook up my discman or Laptop to
my stereo to play any of the 3 inchers. I didn't even know that they
made them in America... Anyway, Later.
AJ

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 01:38:39 -0400
From: "Mike A7" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians?

jj fish <[e-mail]> wrote:
> I'm just wondering about the Moby fans out there.

Well, this is my first post to the list. I guess you could say I'm a new
Moby fan.
The first Moby release I bought was the UK CD single of "Honey" BUT at the
time I bought it only because it had a Rollo/Sister Bliss remix on it and I
collect Faithless stuff. BUT, the local public radio station in Detroit
here has a Friday night "Electronic" show and the host Chuck Horn has
played stuff off "Play" WEEKLY since it came out. He loves this disc. I
heard "Porcelein" and "Natural Blues" on there one night, was BLOWN AWAY by
their beauty and immediately purchased "Play". This CD is AMAZING, I can't
see anything topping this as my favorite CD of the year. And seeing Moby
live this past week in Detroit clinched it for me, this guy is a freaking
genius (I'm sure you all don't need to be told :)  ) that was the best damn
concert I have seen in years and I'm talking of ANY form of music. What a
show, what a vibe. Whew! Enough of that long intro.

> How many of you are vegan? vegetarian?
> Any body a musician? What about ages?

I am not a musician but a serious music fan and collector. I take music so
seriously, I guess the term "Music geek" applies but it means so much to me
I can't even describe it. A new CD is like a movie to me, I have to
experience it in the dark with the headphones on that first time to judge
it. That's just the start of how serious I take music :)

 I'm 28 years old. I am not a vegan or a
vegetarian. I have cut red meat out of my diet, the thought of eating it
sickens me at this point, it's been that way for a few years now after
going through a lot of stomach problems. I really want to do more research
into a vegetarian diet, I do enjoy chicken and that would be the toughest
"meat" to give up. But it is definately something I've considered and this
was before Moby. I have had stomach problems my whole life and it has
certainly led me to research what I should be putting into my body and it's
led me to more veggies and fruit and farther away from meats, eggs, milk
etc.

As for Moby, I REALLY appreciate how strong he is in his beliefs and
speaking about his beliefs. I appreciate the fact he lets people know where
he stands but doesn't shove it down peoples throats such as preaching
onstage during concerts.
It is such a refreshing change from an artist I used to repsect, Prince,
who really has driven me away with his continuous onstage preachings about
what his fans "Should do" and what is "right and the TRUTH". The Moby
concert was refreshing, I respect his beliefs, I share MANY of them, but I
also respect his not forcing it on people.
God bless Moby :)

Later,
MikeA



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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:55:30 -0500
From: "Daniel Orion Davis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians?

I've had trouble with me E-mail all week..so I've lost the original question
here...but I think it was just as the subject line implies so...

Vegan:    No...I'm a vegetarian, and eventually would like to move up to
Veganism, but for now, I still need my cheese...

Age:    21

Musician:    Yes...I play guitar, bass, and keyboards with varying degrees
of ability.  I'm in an electro-folk duo, if that makes any sense, but don't
expect to see any MP3's for a while...we're not going to do any recording
for a year as the other half of the duo is on an extended trip to London...

which brings me to my question...how does one find out the release dates for
CD's in the UK?
Is there a good website for that?

Thanks,

Daniel

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 21:47:41 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Chicken

That film Baraka, is incredible and Dead can Dance do the
introductory music - I think the track is called Yulunga
(Spirit Dance) or something - excellent. It's well worth
watching - it 'says' a lot, without saying anything.

So, whoever next interviews Moby, please ask him does he
believe in hell and has he ever done acid or funny shrooms?

Thanks.

TMB

On Mon, 6 Sep 1999 16:39:29 EDT [e-mail] wrote:

> Hi, my name's Gabriele.  And I used to eat chicken.  ("Hi, Gabriele")...j/k
> Well apart from that one fact that Moby shared (the one about "80% of
> U.S.D.A. chicken inspectors no longer eating chicken"), I just saw this
> amazing docu-film called "Baraka" that has made it impossible for me to eat
> chicken. No words, just incredible images from all over the world. But
> there's a part in the 2nd half where they show how chickens are processed
> from eggs to when they're young chicks.  It is totally shocking. Once you
> watch that, it's hard to get it out of your conscience...
> Okay, now to make it more Moby-related: Moby is wonderful :)
>

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Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 10:40:56 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Baptism and Communion

Could whoever is next interviewing Moby, ask if he's ever
done acid or funny shrooms? Thanks.

TMB

On Sun, 5 Sep 1999 13:16:47 -0500 Brad Caviness
<[e-mail]> wrote:

After the show,
> I asked him what he thinks about while he's performing "Thousand." His
> reply: "This sounds really odd, but tonight I was watching the smoke play in
> the lights and thinking about string theory."
>


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Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:15:17 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) diets b12 V2 #114

Plus, grown-up humans don't need as much calcium as babies
and young children. A sensible vegan diet, may be good for
adults, but maybe not as good for younger kids - though
vegetarian diets should pose no problems.

TMB

On Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:54:00 +0300 (EET DST) Heidi Gronman
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>
> > Subject: Zen diet and vegetarianism
> > The Dictionary of Misinformation,
>
> > reference to the vitamin B-12. In Dr. Mayers words:
> >   Unless the vegetarian's diet allows milk, there's also the danger of
> > calcium deficiency. Calcium deficiency is a particularly severe
>
> veg*ans get b-12 and calcium from  f.e. alfa-alfa and seaweed.
>
> vegans can take care of themselves...:)
> h
>
>

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Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 23:00:24 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians?

I'm a vegetarian and I used to play piano and guitar
mediocrely too. Now, I havern't the time. I havern't picked
my guitar for almost 4 months!

26 and going mad....

Love and anarchy,

TMB

P.S. Long live Moby! Amen.

On Sun, 05 Sep 1999 04:55:52 -0700 Laura
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> helloooo!
>
> > How many of you are vegan? vegetarian?
> > Any body a musician? What about ages?
>
> i'm a 19 year old singing, mediocre-guitar-&-piano-playing, militant vegetarian
> (since i was in fourth grade, woo!) :) i'm going to become a vegan as soon as i
> move out of my parents' house.
>
> > I recently turned vegetarian thanks in part to moby's liner notes in
> > Everything is Wrong (those facts really got me).  I'm a musician, 2
>
> i love this list!
>
> laura!
> --
> I wish I had a dollar for every time I spent a dollar, because then, Yahoo! I'd
> have all my money back.
>
>

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Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:01:04 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians?

i eat meat, and love it!  no offense intended and just because i eat meat
moby doesn't hate me so neither should you.  I am 21, and not a musician,
however i would like to mix music, anyone know any good programs for doing
that on the computer????  i am going to be a filmmaker, you just watch.

hatred is sick
fillmmaker

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:02:04 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) is there a moby show in the boston area soon?

is there a concert in the area or the state around and does anyone have an
extra ticket?
hatred is sick
fillmmaker

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:36:16 -0700
From: "kelbert" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby & tori amos?

(sorry if this has been discussed already... i can't remember
anyone mentioning it, but if someone has and i missed it,
sorry.)

anyway, im sitting here doing the e-mail thing and then on the
edge i hear tori amos talking about maybe working with moby.
i didn't hear it all because the recycling truck (noisy things. sheesh)
just went by and my window is wide open so i just caught the
end of it.

so whats the deal? anyone else hear about this?

is there a possible moby and tori team up in the works?
if so, i will be very happy.  tori tori tori!!!!!!  okay im done.

- -kelly

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:36:56 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's Birthday

i think it was on the 9th...elie

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:38:48 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) mission impossible2 soundtrack

i was reading in entertainment weekly and it said tom cruise was choosing
songs for the soundtrack and it said moby had submitted a version of the
mission impossible theme song
hatred is sick
fillmmaker

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:39:21 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Questions for Moby

Yes.
 Ask him if he wants to parasail or go jetskiing in ft myers when he plays
here the 14th.

Blake - Holiday Watersports
Ft Myers Beach FL

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 22:14:29 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) insects

In a message dated 9/7/99 1:36:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< i don't want to get all animal rightsy on here, but i do think insects =
 are wonderful creatures just like everything else on earth.  although =
 they are smaller and more plentiful, they are still beautiful.  moby = >>

you go!!! i totally agree with you... insects, like any other animal, have
rights too.

animal lib, vegan power.

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 22:18:48 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Re:sugar

In a message dated 9/7/99 2:57:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<<  am a vegan and i have heard that some sugar companies refine sugar =
 with animal products, so you are correct.  you just don't know which =
 ones are and which ones are not.  you can totally eat unrefined sugar =
 (like sucanat, sugar in the raw, all that stuff).  keep in mind that = >>

i dont eat sugar for ethical reasons.  you can use the sugars listed above -
they're vegan.  you can also use "Jack Frost", which u can find in most
supermarkets.

animal lib, vegan power

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 22:23:08 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) milk

In a message dated 9/7/99 2:57:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< you go heidi!  by the way, calcium from milk is a lot of hooey.  the =
 calcium you receive from milk is broken down by the protein that milk =
 also supplies, and then some.  by drinking milk you deplete your body of =
 calcium.  milk is not meant for us.  it does a body bad.  keep in mind =
 everything you learned about milk as a child was supplied by the dairy =
 industry.

 dave >>

you go boy!  milk is evil... for your body and for the poor cows.  u can get
just as much calcium from soy milk(the special fortified ones).

animal lib, vegan power

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 22:27:46 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) moby's bday

In a message dated 9/7/99 1:36:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Anyone know when it is? I know he was born in September 1965 (according t
>>

his bday is this sat the 11th.  im goingto see him tomorrow at Irving Plaza
baby!!!!!!!!
im going to shout out "happy bday!"
cant wait to see him again... my 3rd time seeing him in nyc this summer!

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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 14:51:01 +1200
From: Joseph Parkes <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) New Writer Intro

Hey all Moby fans,

My name is Joseph (Joe) Parkes and I'm 19 years old.
I live in Dunedin, New Zealand, which is down in the South of the South
Island.
I have been a Moby fan for about a year and a half ever since I got "I like
To score".  I also have got by Moby, Everything is Wrong, ETW remixed,
Animal Rights, Play, Voodoo Child and various soundtracks like Spawn and
Jackal.
I am not vegetarian so even though it might turn alot of u guys off me, it
is Moby that brings us together. Please don't judge me.  I know it is wrong
to eat or wear animals but if you met me I am a sensitive person, I cried
when I shot a rabbit two summers ago.  Pretty pathetic aye. I guess I'm a
coward for eating meat, but right now I have so many other pressures in my
life it seems less important.  I'm Sorry.
Something Positive Now
Other bands that light my ring include, Smashing Pumpkins, Creed, Tool, BT,
and pretty much everything in between.
I just went to a Creed concert (absolutely amazing) in Christchurch and I'm
saving for Moby's Wellington show, and I was wondering if you guys can give
me an indepth point of view of what goes on at his concerts, like does he
mix other peoples music or does he play his funky stuff. Do we stand and
listen or do we rave.  I would kill to hear "Face It" Live which is my
favourite track of his.  Next would be Shining, First Cool Hive, New Dawn
Fades, and God moving....
I think it also has to do with the movies I watch.
I LOVE movies, and Moby just gives them that much more.
I mean you watch the movie and because his musik is almost haunting, and
inspirational that when you listen to it later it feels as if your in the
movie.
Heat for example: at the end when Al is holding Bob's hand, it is an
amazing mix of emotions, they are both good characters but he had to do his
job etc etc I could go on for days
And the musik just heightens the experience.  I can't describe it but when
I put the Cd on I want to cry.  But First Cool Hive sends shivers down my
Spine And I LOVE it.
Scream is my favourite movie and Moby just makes it that much better.
We actually studied Scream at University, Thats what I'm doing now.

I would love to get to know a few of u guys personally so Email me if your
keen, we can talk about other things like Movies for example.  Even if you
want to know what New Zealand is like because I would love to hear about
other countries.

I better go write an essay now so I hope I'll hear from you guys soon?

Spot
Joe





Joseph Parkes [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 15:08:26 +1200
From: Joseph Parkes <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Pumpkins Fan Rob

Awesome to hear another pumkins fan mate.
My Favourite Band
That Moby mix of 1979 is awesome aye, It's sooo haunting and you can just
tell its him. Love It. I've got it as well.
I have Some smashing pumpkins bootlegs, like Live At Brixton, and Dawn, And
Acoustic Dreams.
Billy, James and Moby should team up more oftn, considering Billy wants to
go futuristic.
Spot
Joe




Joseph Parkes [e-mail]

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