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mobility-digest       Tuesday, September 7 1999       Volume 02 : Number 114



Re: (mobility) Scooter???
Re: (mobility) Scooter???
(mobility) veg*an V2 #112
(mobility) re: p-brgh psyched
(mobility) re:Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians?
(mobility) Chicken
(mobility) Hello Moby FANS!
(mobility) Moby on Loveline
(mobility) URGENT: Live Moby Question
Re: (mobility) URGENT: Live Moby Question
(mobility) Vegan/musician?
(mobility) hola!
(mobility) moby on the world cafe 9-8-99
Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians?
Re: (mobility) Shopwell!!!
Re: (mobility) Shopwell!!!
Re: (mobility) URGENT: Live Moby Question
Re: (mobility) URGENT: Live Moby Question
(mobility) [Fwd: Zen diet and vegetarianism]

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 18:56:44 +0200
From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Scooter???

Daniel Redmond wrote:
>On a whim, I grabbed the "Hackers2" comp soundtrack and gave it a listen.
>Besides Moby, there was an artist on it called Scooter.  Any info on
>him/them?  Just curious, i liked the track and wanted to hear more.

For info about Scooter look here!
http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Music/Artists/By_Genre/Electronica/Scoote
r/

(<>,,<>)

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 18:57:09 +0200
From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Scooter???

Daniel Redmond wrote:
>On a whim, I grabbed the "Hackers2" comp soundtrack and gave it a listen.
>Besides Moby, there was an artist on it called Scooter.  Any info on
>him/them?  Just curious, i liked the track and wanted to hear more.

For info about Scooter look here!
http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Music/Artists/By_Genre/Electronica/Scoote
r/

(<>,,<>)

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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 23:01:48 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Heidi Gronman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) veg*an V2 #112

> i'm sorry this is probably a dumb question and youll all laugh at me  for
> asking this, but whta is the difference between a veggiterian and a vegan?
> thanks. later

not dumb question at all! now you can invite all your veg*an friends over
dinner without hesitation.

labels are usefull when one has to quickly have something done right,
f.e. friend wants to know what you'd like to eat.
ovo-lacto-vegetarian means that you don't eat meat of animals.
vegetarian means that you don't eat any products containing animalstuff.
vegan means that you don't eat, wear nor use any product where somewhere
along products life has been use of animals in any way.

usually vegans don't use any kind of drugs, illegal or legal, are aware of
damages done to enviroment and so on.
X-s (straightx, straightedge) are vegans, christians and refuse to have
sex before marriage. at least that's the way how they are in finland.

it is somewhat impossible to be a fundamentalvegan, so most of
vegans don't demand absolute certanty. things around are too complex for
anyone to know everything. best what we can do is to not use animals
according our knowledge of the situation, cos every refusing of use lacks
from the total mass of all uses of animals.

to me being a vegan means ability to hear silent demand.

h, monkey in a canoe

p.s. vegans don't eat honey, but it's quite all right to listen it.

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 15:07:52 -0400
From: "jeff cubeta" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) re: p-brgh psyched

hi, casey!!!!

so sorry you can't make it!!  why not??  i'm going to find my baby!!.....

jeff

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 15:16:15 -0400
From: "jeff cubeta" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) re:Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians?

hey - mobyheads -

'kay -

i'm practically a vegetarian, but i have the occasional bit of flesh because
i'm truthfully too poor to supplement/make the transfer to V properly.
(scorn me now - go ahead....)

i am a classic musician and pop-wannabe-musician.  i sing (mostly early
music - handel, purcell - anything light - i am a light leggiero tenor.)  i
have a degree in music ed - i conduct (chorally) and play a great deal of
piano.  i would love to start to record some of my own pop stuff, but i lack
the equipment and am probably moving in the next month or so.  i would also
love to start spinning vinyls.

i am 23.

jeff

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 16:39:29 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Chicken

Hi, my name's Gabriele.  And I used to eat chicken.  ("Hi, Gabriele")...j/k
Well apart from that one fact that Moby shared (the one about "80% of
U.S.D.A. chicken inspectors no longer eating chicken"), I just saw this
amazing docu-film called "Baraka" that has made it impossible for me to eat
chicken. No words, just incredible images from all over the world. But
there's a part in the 2nd half where they show how chickens are processed
from eggs to when they're young chicks.  It is totally shocking. Once you
watch that, it's hard to get it out of your conscience...
Okay, now to make it more Moby-related: Moby is wonderful :)

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 17:52:02 -0400
From: Danny Gallegos <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Hello Moby FANS!

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This site is just a template links are going to be broken or not working at all, Our site
will be offcialy posted in about 2 weeks. Please link your site to ours and we will do the
same for you!

Together we can make it happen!

(MobyAMP a site by fans for fans)

Thank you,
Danny Gallegos

Email: [e-mail]
AIM: XPhantasma
UIN: 7957051

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 21:09:07 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Moby on Loveline

Did anyone else happen to catch Moby on Loveline last night? It was the radio
show, not the TV one. I completely forgot about telling you guys about that.
It was on KROQ for those in Cali and KUBZ in Western WA. I'm such a nerd
sometimes. I was going to call in and talk to him, but it was already
midnight and they were replaying the first hour. (It's a two hour show, 10pm
to midnight, but of course, The Buzz likes to play a three hour
segment...stupid Seattle stations are messed up!!!)

I'm gonna write up to KROQ to see if they'll give me a copy of it and I know
that on Friday, they should play an hour of him during Loveline. (They always
have repeats on Fridays.) He might be on the TV show in about three weeks or
so (the time slots are weird...once when they had Blink 182 on the radio
show, they didn't come up on the TV one, even though it was done the next
day, until three months later) but I'll try to keep you guys up on that one.

Anyway...yeah...ummmmm...vote on EmptyVee!! Oh, and call The Box a lot (if
you get the station) and bug them to get Bodyrock on their playlist...they
have everything else but that.

Later,
Swells

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 20:52:48 -0500
From: SiD <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) URGENT: Live Moby Question

Hey there folks I just joined the list for some quick information so I
hope someone's online now.

I saw Moby on Friday and I'm supposed to have a review filed with a
paper tonight but I need some information.

First concerning the setlist that I swiped it off a conga drum, is it a
pretty safe bet that it's correct and they didn't change things up
during the set?  I mean I can't imagine the setlist changing much
with all those sequences being set and all.  Second what are the
songs?  Below is what is written on the paper and my guesses are
afterwards in parenthesis...

Mach 2 (?)
Stop (?)
Bond (James Bond Theme from "I Like to Score")
Porc'ln. (Porcelain from "Play")
Go (Go from "I Like to Score" and many others)
Next (Next is the E from that self-titled ep)
Ah-Ah (Ah-Ah from "I Like to Score" and many others)
Bring (Bring Back My Happiness from "Everything is Wrong")
Body (Bodyrock from "Play")
Honey (Honey from "Play")
Feel (Feeling So Real from "Everything is Wrong")

So if you have any clues like "No way he would have done Next is the E
in 1999!" or "Mach 2 is some remove of Machette from the new album"
that'd be grand.

Also I'd like to know who is in the band now a days.  It is the same
folks that were on Conon O'Brian if that helps.  First person to tell
me the line up can have the setlist if they want it.

Finally I took like 60 pictures and I'll post them on a site for you
folks in the next few days to thank ya for the help with this.

Thanks in advance,

SiD

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SiD         [e-mail]        http://www.urinine.com/~sid/

"Architecture students are like virgins with an itch they can not
scratch.  Never build a building til you're 50, what kind of life
is that?" -Pavement

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 22:04:38 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) URGENT: Live Moby Question

i just thought i'd tell you, im online right now but i along with you hav eno
clue. im sorry, man. later.

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 20:32:48 -0600
From: Kyle L Yeates <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Vegan/musician?

            In response to a question about being
vegan/musicians/ect.

i have been vegan for a while now. i guess it is how you define vegan.  i
am completely vegan in how i eat, to the point where i won't even eat
anything that has mono-di glycerides in it unless i know their source,
because those are often animal based. (a fun fact that a lot of my
vegan/vegetarian friends didn't know.)still, i have a leather hat i wear
that was given to me, but me being given an already dead cow product
created no additional harm. i also wear silk shirts because i have this
whole thing with insects not being real. i was also raised a vegetarian
by my parents, so that is pretty neat.
    i do stuff musically, as well. i do industrial stuff mainly,
which i find most enjoyable. i have a ton of vintage analog gear, which
rocks: a classic moog, a mini moog, a roland tape ribbon space echo, and
an ARP-AX, which is really clunky, among others. the moogs are my babies
though. two weeks ago my guitarist tried and nearly succeeded to commit
suicide, so any music plans are on hold right now.
    what was the other question? oh yeah. i'm 15 years old. i could
go on, but not like this wasn't boring enough. just my two copper plated
disks, though. peace and love.
kyle

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 23:53:09 -0400
From: "Raven" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) hola!

I'm wasn't sure what the toleration here was about introducing yourself, but
since the welcome message prompted me to, here goes.....my name is Chris
Doherty.  My Moby collection is pretty piddly....I just bought the Bodyrock
CD on a whim, and rather liked it!  I also have a few odds and ends of his,
like his remix for the Pumpkins (or at least, I *did* have it) and his song
"Verb" off the Schoolhouse Rocks tribute.  I've also heard some of his
singles, but now I'm looking to get more into his stuff.

So.....Any recommendations?  I've heard some from friends of mine, but I'd
like more.  So far I've already ordered Play, and I plan to get EiW....what
about Voodoo Child?  I've heard the new one is very relaxing, but what
exactly is it like?  Is it just ambient, or ambient house (or whatever you
call ambient music over dance beats)?

I love the Bodyrock single, but I think my favorite track is the b-side
Sunday.  What songs/albums of his are like that?  I'm really a sucker for
that kind of thing...so that's what I'm most interested in.

As for other artists......not a whole lot of techno: BT, this kinda obscure
(but incredible!) ambient house project called Cloud2Ground, and bits and
pieces of the Prodigy and other more mainstream techno groups.  Oh, I've
just developed a love for Meat Beat Manifesto!!  As for other stuff....my
favorite groups are The Smashing Pumpkins, Garbage, this semi-indie band
called Stavesacre (sort of like Tool but more emotional), the Cure, etc etc
etc.  Basically anything good that falls under the general headings of goth,
industrial, rock......then, when my mood-thrashings (I don't just swing)
call for it, I have an unhealthy fascination with swing, punk, ska,
synthpop....hyper music!  Another reason I love the Bodyrock single....

Ta ta,
Chris

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 23:29:46 -0500 (CDT)
From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby on the world cafe 9-8-99

yo fellow public radio listeners (i hope!),

moby is going to be doing an interview on the radio show "the world
cafe." if you don't know what this is, i don't have time to explain. just
listen to it! hopefully you have a cool public radio station near you,
but if not, you can listen to our station KUMD on wednesday from 2pm to
5pm central at www.kumd.org. he'll be on the 2pm hour and the 4pm hour.

they always do good interviews, and they've been charting PLAY for a
while. the world cafe is broadcast all over the u.s. so you SHOULD be
able to find it somewhere.

[xaq]
"i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop.
             but i really enjoy thinking."
             Masafumi Sanai-photographer

              www.d.umn.edu/~zbentz/

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 23:56:07 -0500
From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians?

>How many of you are vegan? vegetarian?

I've been an omnivore for 26 years now.
<http://www.acsh.org/publications/priorities/0902/vegetarian.html>

>Any body a musician?

I used to be. I DJ on the university's station, tho.

>What about ages?

26.

- --
 The C.O.D.   /   John Turpin   /   <http://www2.msstate.edu/~jct1/cod/>
"I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me
 My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond"

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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 23:16:04 -0500
From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Shopwell!!!

>...hey a have a favour to ask, see i wuz listening to UNKLE in tha car with
>my friend, and i mentioned that there was a wicked breakbeat in tha next
>track, and he asked me what a breakbeat was, i couldn't understand that he
>didn't no what it is, all i could say was, you're listening to it now, and
>he still didn't get...so i ask you, how can one explain breakbeats in words,
>no making fun of my friend now, it was an innocent question...

Well, there are "four-on-the-floor" beats, which are fairly easy to
understand. Break beats are syncopated -- they deviate and jump around the
four beats but still keep in time. Confused? :)

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 The C.O.D.   /   John Turpin   /   <http://www2.msstate.edu/~jct1/cod/>
"I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me
 My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond"

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 01:43:10 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Shopwell!!!

the slave thinx he is released from bondage, only to find a stronger set of
chains..

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 23:05:18 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) URGENT: Live Moby Question

I saw Moby Friday, and I don't remember them playing Honey.  Also, they
played a few more songs then that I think.... email me if you want to talk
more on Friday's show.  :)

Cree

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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 08:35:59 PDT
From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) URGENT: Live Moby Question

It's probably too late, but...

>Mach 2 (?)
>Stop (?)

That's "Machete" & "Why Can't It Stop?". The rest are accurate.


>Bond (James Bond Theme from "I Like to Score")
>Porc'ln. (Porcelain from "Play")
>Go (Go from "I Like to Score" and many others)
>Next (Next is the E from that self-titled ep)
>Ah-Ah (Ah-Ah from "I Like to Score" and many others)
>Bring (Bring Back My Happiness from "Everything is Wrong")
>Body (Bodyrock from "Play")
>Honey (Honey from "Play")
>Feel (Feeling So Real from "Everything is Wrong")
>
>So if you have any clues like "No way he would have done Next is the E
>in 1999!" or "Mach 2 is some remove of Machette from the new album"
>that'd be grand.
>
>Also I'd like to know who is in the band now a days.  It is the same
>folks that were on Conon O'Brian if that helps.  First person to tell
>me the line up can have the setlist if they want it.
>
>Finally I took like 60 pictures and I'll post them on a site for you
>folks in the next few days to thank ya for the help with this.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>SiD
>
>--
>SiD         [e-mail]        http://www.urinine.com/~sid/
>
>"Architecture students are like virgins with an itch they can not
>scratch.  Never build a building til you're 50, what kind of life
>is that?" -Pavement
>

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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 05:50:03 +0200
From: but not _the_ frankz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) [Fwd: Zen diet and vegetarianism]

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okay folks,
a long quote, from:
The Dictionary of Misinformation,
Tom Burnam
UK, 1978 Futura Publ. ltd.

"Zen diet and vegetarianism. Many believers think that the Zen
macrobiotic diet, which in its extreme form involves nothing but brown
rice, is a safe way to adhere to the principles of vegetarianism. This
is a dangerous myth, according to Dr. jean mayer, prof. of nutrition
at Harvard.
  Dr. mayer makes it plain that he is not scoring vegertarianism in
general - as long as it allows for sufficient variety to provide the
proteins, vitamins and minerals we need.  But the vegetarian who not
only refuses to eat meat, but even draws the line at all animal
by-products (milk and eggs, f.e.) as well as fish, and who refuses to
supplement his or her diet by vitamin pills, because they are
'chemicals', is taking a very considerable risk, particularly with
reference to the vitamin B-12. In Dr. Mayers words:

   'Many individuals have insisted to me -sometimes with considerable
anger- that they and their children have been on a total-vegetable
diet for years, with no ill effects. But I repeat, the symptoms of
B-12 deficiency take many years to show up. And once they do, they
can't be reversed.
  Unless the vegetarian's diet allows milk, there's also the danger of
calcium deficiency. Calcium deficiency is a particularly severe
problem for nursing mothers; without ample calcium in their diet, they
have to steal calcium from their own bones to make breast milk. And as
in the case with B-12 deficiency, the resulting damage occurs slowly
and may be entirely unsuspected until the latter years, when the
victiim becomes highly susceptible to brittle bones and disabling
fractures.
  Added to the burden of inadequate calcium may be the shortage of
vitamine D, which is necesary if the body is to utilize what calcium
it does get. All small children (except those who live in year-round
sunny climates) need vitamin D supplements during the winter, and this
is even more true of children on low calcium diets. They will not get
sufficient Vitamin D if their vegetarianism prohibits them from having
D-fortified milk, fish, liver oils (bweeeh!!! Kees) or vitamin
supplements."

[endquote]

Please, all inform yo-self!

(for pokey, for laura, for sara, for all of you)

kees'99
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