Subject: RE: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up!
- -----Original Message-----
From: Tim Beecher [mailto:T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk]
Sent: 25 August 1999 15:50
To: mobility@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up!
I don't know, I thought the Neff and Bauhaus, were taking
the piss as well, okay, agreed the Sisters were having
more of a laugh.
Guess you had more sensitive irony detectors than me. Still, I only saw the
Sisters live, not the other two.
Personally, I couldn't wear a lot of black in summer, but I
don't see anything wrong with odd hair (sometimes it
looked quite 'cool') - give me odd hair any day, rather
than the mutant Manchester-scene mops of the early 90s -
now that looked silly. Everyone to their own style, I
suppose.
My approach to the interesting goth hairstyle problem was just to not get it
cut. As you can imagine I ended up closer to an Old English Sheepdog than
anything else.
I had great fun as a goth, and when I got into punk, and I
still do, so life's what you make it....
Hear hear...
Moby, now what happened to him....?
TMB
On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:36:14 +0100 Greening Ian
<Ian.Greening@Tms-Ltd.com> wrote:
> Looking back now, goth was a slightly embarrassing phase. Still, it was
fun
> though.
>
> Heroes? The Sisters, obviously. They always seemed to have the post-modern
> irony/sense of humour thing pretty much down. The Neff & Bauhaus etc
always
> seemed to take it seriously... Lets face it, having odd hair and wearing a
> lot of black (not good in summer) was a little silly. Mind you, it was as
> good a reaction to an all boys boarding school as was available at the
time.
> Maybe 10 years and liberalised gun laws later we'd have been wearing black
> trenchcoats and calling ourselves a mafia... Not good.
>
> Who else was there? Early Nine Inch Nails were very cool. The 12" of Down
In
> It came into range and was bloody marvellous. Still, the above and a mate
> who played lots of acid house tapes got me into techno, and hence Moby.
>
> For what it's worth, the whole goth thing rather stopped for me when I
went
> to University, and discovered that life could be fun. You know, going out
> with your mates without attempting to retain that impenetrable facade,
> finding a woman who actually liked you, that sort of thing. I like to
think
> I'm a fairly well adjusted individual now. Oh yes.
>
> I think that there are a fair amount of bands who were/are influenced by
the
> whole goth thing, without wearing the black and having pretensions. The
God
> Machine, Rico, Vast, etc. And the Prodigy to a certain extent.
>
> And the Sisters proved that you don't need a drummer! Simplified life
> immensely later on.
>
> Much Love,
>
> Ian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Beecher [mailto:T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk]
> Sent: 25 August 1999 15:20
> To: mobility@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: RE: RE: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up!
>
>
> Maybe that's why I haven't heard much about them, since the
> split. So who were your goth heroes, or is goth an
> embarrassing phase you went through?
>
> I thought and still think some goth was great. Sorry, to
> all the trend-setters out there....
>
> TMB
>
>
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Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk
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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:44:07 -0700
From: kimbalina <kimbalina@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up!
> >The Smiths were definitely better than Morrissey, though he
> >had some great solo moments.
>
Well, I think they sound the same. Probably because Morrissey wrote just about
everything (he probably didn't write the music all though it's possible since it
sounds very much the same).
>
> >Speaking of goth - that's one style Moby hasn't tried yet,
> >oh yeah, and acid jazz. Mind you a lot of die-hard goth
> >people I know, quite like Animal Rights.
>
I think that would be kinda cool. I like hardcore goths from a distance. A lot
of my friends are goths. Very weird. :-) I think MOBY should. "A New Dawn
Fades" does count does it? I know a lot of goths listen to Joy Division.
>
- --kimby
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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:41:02 -0600
From: Daniel Cerman <dcerman@verinet.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY.ORG FAN PAGE
Rob Skipworth wrote:
> Hey Damian (and the rest of the list)
> What do you think about a page on moby.org for us to upload pictures???
> It sounds like several people have taken cameras to the shows and it would
> be cool to post all of our pictures of and with moby up there for all the
> others to see.
I would be happy to post concert pictures that people have. Just put
them on the Internet somewhere (preferably an FTP site, but WWW is
alright) and email me their location, specifying that you would like
them posted on moby.org.
Sorry, but I don't know how to make a web page to upload pictures.
I'm just a novice with scripting. Also, if you've emailed me
personally and haven't received a reply, it's because 1: your message
is probably buried in hundreds of mobility posts (HHOS), and 2: I'm
lazy and don't reply to my email as well as I should. Just send me
another email to remind me to wake up and reply to you. Again, sorry.
Daniel Damian
moby.org not to be confused with mobility-list-owner
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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 8:59:8 -0700 (PDT)
From: J Holland <mobscene@go.com>
Subject: RE: (mobility) well, i maybe a sellout, but at least i don't use and abues bad oldies!!
the GAP is certainly not a charity!
i have decided that i am very afraid of the people in those ads... they all have these vacant blank stares -- the world needs to see what the GAP is doing to people!! i can see the headlines now-- 'american corporation brainwashes youth, forcing them to purchase large quantities of corduroy pants and vests and sing bad songs from the 60's, 70's and 80's!'
please also take note that the same people who brought you 'everybody in cords' and 'everybody in vests' brought you <singing> 'old navy! old navy! old navy performance fleece!'
SAVE YOURSELVES!!!! SAVE YOURSELVES BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!!!
- ---kimbalina <kimbalina@earthlink.net>
wrote:---
>
>I agree with that. Very scary. Hey didn't someone say that MOBY was going to do a Gap comercial? Hrmph. That's scary. But, MOBY
>tends to like to donate cash to charity so that's good. :-) Whatever helps is ok by me (not that I really matter :-)
>
>--kimby
>
>
>
- ----JHolland <mobscene@go.com> wrote:-------
>> >Okay-- I'm not sure if this has ANYTHING to do with selling out... and least of all Moby...
>>
>> >BUT -- what is with these GAP ads?? They are sooo wacky (and not a little bit scary!)!! 'mellow yellow???''dress you up in >my love??'
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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 9:9:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: J Holland <mobscene@go.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) my problem w/ bodyrock
On a semi-related note: as i would really like to take part in this discussion, i really would like to see the video... does anyone know if bodyrock made it onto TRL yesturday? i tuned in at video #8 ... and saw neither heads or tails of moby (except for a brief moment in an add for the video music awards)...
what do you got for me people?
VOTE!
- --J
- ---Io6032@aol.com
wrote:---
>in response to all the stuff that is being said right now.
>
>i have no clue where i stand on the whole world embrace moby / stay
>underground and tight with thte fans. i see it from both points. i wish more
>people knew who moby was when i mentioned his name, but i've noticed that a
>lot more people are getting to know him, not from bodyrock, but older stuff
>that they just come in contact with becasue their music tastes are expanding.
>
>my problem with the bodyrock is that it seems like an entirely a fatboy slim
>rip. i know that its been said that bodyrock, wasn't written after the whole
>bigbeat obsession, but even still its not a particularly great moby song.
>imho it kinda sucks mucho. i think there is was better stuff on play. and
>quite honestly fatboy slim does bigbeat better. the video just takes the
>fatboy slim comparisons to the next level. lets be honest how many when we
>first saw the video said "hey isn't this praise you???". i mean really its
>done in the almost exact same style. thats my problem. i wish moby could've
