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mobility-digest       Wednesday, August 25 1999       Volume 02 : Number 097



Re: (mobility) Misc....Moby plays (played) a Carvin?
Re: (mobility) Dallas Show (yee haw)
Re: (mobility) I may be a sell out, but at least I don't use oldies.
(mobility) introduction (please send this time, darn computer. thanks)
Re: (mobility) Moby for the masses
(mobility) MOBY.ORG FAN PAGE
Re: (mobility) I may be a sell out, but at least I don't use oldies.
Re: (mobility) Moby quoted in World Magazine
Re: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up!
RE: (mobility) Moby quoted in World Magazine
Re: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up!
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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 03:33:19 -0700
From: Laura <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Misc....Moby plays (played) a Carvin?

> Wow, don't I wish I could.  If we could all just become "dead moby heads" and
> travel like a technoy band of transients, selling multi colored wares and trinkets
> to the crowds in the parking lots, living day to day while MOBY is touring...wow,
> what a life that would be.

haha, i asked my mom if she would mind if i quit my job and just followed moby around
the universe, and she said "well um, i guess you only live once, and uh, if it would
make you happy"... wouldn't that rock? :)

laura!

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 04:36:44 -0700
From: Laura <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Dallas Show (yee haw)

> Hi everyone, I have a question. How does the crowd react to Moby? I've never
> been to a Moby concert, and I'm wondering as a first-timer if I will get
> hurt, squished, stomped on, ect....
>
>                                      ~Felicia

helloooo :)
i've only been to one moby show so far, where he did two sets, but i can
describe it to ya anyway :) the first set was an all electronic set, and
basically everyone was either dancing or just standing and staring. i was quite
close to the front and i didn't fear my life once :) but the second set, where
he pulled out the guitar (and his band members, too), and sang, that one got a
little more um, raucous. people were jumping around and flailing, and it was
very squished, but there was no intentional harm done to anyone else. a little
bit of pushing, but that's about it. keep in mind that this was a festival, tho,
and a lot of the people there were just going from stage to stage, so it might
be a lot different than a show  where moby is the headliner. that said, it was
still a lovely happy vibe, and my paranoid butt didn't freak out a single time
:)

laura!

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 05:01:23 -0700
From: Laura <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) I may be a sell out, but at least I don't use oldies.

>
> BUT -- what is with these GAP ads?? They are sooo wacky (and not a little bit scary!)!! 'mellow yellow???''dress you up in my love??'
>
> whoa.

i think they're sort of 'one nation under a groove.'  everyone is happy in their fluffy gap vests, singing in their own voices. ah. :)

laura!

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 05:14:37 -0700
From: Laura <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) introduction (please send this time, darn computer. thanks)

hello. i'm new to the mobility list, as of a few weeks ago, and i
thought as i'm going to want
to
spout a lot of stuff here, i might as well introduce myself :)
my name is laura, i'm from portland, oregon, and i'm 19 years old. I
first
heard of moby (in more than passing) when i found his chats about a year
ago at
sonicnet.com, and was very impressed. i also laughed my bottom off. I
had
heard a few of his songs when i went to see him at the big stink
festival
in portland, and was really excited, but didn't really know what to
expect.
i was totally blown away. i danced through both of his sets, to the
point
where i thought i would pass out. it was such a beautiful thing. anyone
else who has seen moby in concert probably knows what im talking about.
i
hopped around and grinned for the next week. :) anyway, i don't have any

of
moby's music on cd or anything, and i might not be the most savvy fan
but i
do dig him as much as can be. and just wait til my next paycheck! some
of
the cds i already own and love are by portishead, pj harvey, radiohead,
sublime, otis redding, howlin wolf, air, the crystal method, and dj
shadow.
and not only will i be seeing moby again, but i get to see dj shadow and

underworld,
too, at coachella! thanks for posting the info, nimu-e :)

thanks for *all* the great info, everybody!
laura!

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 05:41:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Trousers <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby for the masses

Dave, you seem to know everything - what lottery nos
should i pick next week and what is this life thing
all about?


Peace - a concept
Time - another concept


Love - now there's something real
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:41:44 -0500
From: Rob Skipworth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) MOBY.ORG FAN PAGE

Hey Damian (and the rest of the list)
    What do you think about a page on moby.org for us to upload pictures??? It sounds
like several people have taken cameras to the shows and it would be cool to post all of
our pictures of and with moby up there for all the others to see.

Anyone else agree with me???


- ----rob


<-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_->
"An overturned Mercedes Benz, reeking
of spilled gasoline, sat in a pile
of broken glass near the east stage.
The driver's-side door bore a green
Bumper-sticker that read 'Greed Sucks.'"
  -Addicted To Noise on the Woodstock Riots
<-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_->

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 06:37:52 -0700
From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) I may be a sell out, but at least I don't use oldies.

> >Okay-- I'm not sure if this has ANYTHING to do with selling out... and least of all Moby...
>
> >BUT -- what is with these GAP ads?? They are sooo wacky (and not a little bit scary!)!! 'mellow yellow???''dress you up in >my love??'
>
>

I agree with that.  Very scary.  Hey didn't someone say that MOBY was going to do a Gap comercial?  Hrmph.  That's scary.  But, MOBY
tends to like to donate cash to charity so that's good. :-)  Whatever helps is ok by me (not that I really matter :-)

- --kimby

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 06:44:06 -0700
From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby quoted in World Magazine

>
>
> > "You don't have a rock festival based on peace and love and invite Kid
> > Rock and Insane Clown Posse."--Techno artist MOBY, on the riot-plagued
> > Woodstock '99 festival. He noted that some of the most popular
> > performers there specialize in a particularly combative mixture of hard
> > rock and rap.
>

This is very true.  Woodstock '94 and this years Woodstock were truly based on cash
flow.  I mean, that's why the two guys did it in '94 right?  I mean, weren't they
sponsored by like Pepsi?  How cheap is that?  I'm surprised they weren't sponsored
by like Death Cigaretts!

Gee, does anyone know why MOBY played there anyway?  I mean, Woodstock is just a
cash cow for companies and bands now.  Do you really think they care about love and
peace *that* much?  Do you think they'd put on the show for free w/the bands
working for free in the name of peace and love?  Na, I don't.  But then again, I'm
just evil that way. :-P

- --kimby

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 06:47:38 -0700
From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up!

>
> >Cibo Matto! Gus Gus! Rage Against the Machine! and many more.
> >The day before, on the 9th, Beck is gonna play there, along with    Perry
> >Farrell, Morrissey, and the Chemical Bros.

Oh my god!  I have to go now!  Morrissey!!!  I love Morrissey!  AH!!!!!  Oh my
god!

Okay, I'm okay.  Wow, now I really have to go.  I hope it's on a weekend so I can
talk my bf into going.  *sigh*

I know this is a MOBY list but does any one on here like Morrissey?  *sigh*  He's
so hot, too bad he probably does't like girls but I've heard he also doesn't like
boys.  But who can tell.  :-)   Gee, is he still a virgin?

- --kimby

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:46:25 +0100
From: Greening Ian <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby quoted in World Magazine

Mind you, there are still some festivals that are out there which are still
done for the love of it. In the UK, for example, we get things like the Big
Chill and Greenbelt, which may not have a bill stuffed full of Premier
League acts, but can still get a good few in.

Any like it in the States?

Much Love,

Ian

- -----Original Message-----
From: kimbalina [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: 25 August 1999 14:44
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby quoted in World Magazine





>
>
> > "You don't have a rock festival based on peace and love and invite Kid
> > Rock and Insane Clown Posse."--Techno artist MOBY, on the riot-plagued
> > Woodstock '99 festival. He noted that some of the most popular
> > performers there specialize in a particularly combative mixture of hard
> > rock and rap.
>

This is very true.  Woodstock '94 and this years Woodstock were truly based
on cash
flow.  I mean, that's why the two guys did it in '94 right?  I mean, weren't
they
sponsored by like Pepsi?  How cheap is that?  I'm surprised they weren't
sponsored
by like Death Cigaretts!

Gee, does anyone know why MOBY played there anyway?  I mean, Woodstock is
just a
cash cow for companies and bands now.  Do you really think they care about
love and
peace *that* much?  Do you think they'd put on the show for free w/the bands
working for free in the name of peace and love?  Na, I don't.  But then
again, I'm
just evil that way. :-P

- --kimby

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:53:39 -0500
From: "Daniel Orion Davis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up!

>
> Oh my god!  I have to go now!  Morrissey!!!  I love Morrissey!  AH!!!!!
Oh my
> god!
>
> Okay, I'm okay.  Wow, now I really have to go.  I hope it's on a weekend
so I can
> talk my bf into going.  *sigh*
>
> I know this is a MOBY list but does any one on here like Morrissey?
*sigh*  He's
> so hot, too bad he probably does't like girls but I've heard he also
doesn't like
> boys.  But who can tell.  :-)   Gee, is he still a virgin?
>

Well, I"m a huge Smiths fan...and I like a lot of Morrissey's solo
stuff...but none of it ever really impressed me like the Smiths...


Daniel
"How can anyone be unhappy in a world where we have bananas?"

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:53:48 +0100
From: Greening Ian <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up!

Well, Your Arsenal was pretty good. At least I think that's what it's
called. It had tracks like Spring-Heeled Jim and Speedway on. And the
wonderfully named Baz Boorer playing...

Still, The Smiths totally had it. In the late 80's, when I was doing
something of a goth phase, they were about the only interesting indie band.
Shame they'd split up already then.

Ian

- -----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Orion Davis [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: 25 August 1999 14:54
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up!



>
> Oh my god!  I have to go now!  Morrissey!!!  I love Morrissey!  AH!!!!!
Oh my
> god!
>
> Okay, I'm okay.  Wow, now I really have to go.  I hope it's on a weekend
so I can
> talk my bf into going.  *sigh*
>
> I know this is a MOBY list but does any one on here like Morrissey?
*sigh*  He's
> so hot, too bad he probably does't like girls but I've heard he also
doesn't like
> boys.  But who can tell.  :-)   Gee, is he still a virgin?
>

Well, I"m a huge Smiths fan...and I like a lot of Morrissey's solo
stuff...but none of it ever really impressed me like the Smiths...


Daniel
"How can anyone be unhappy in a world where we have bananas?"

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:05:10 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: RE: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up!

The Smiths were definitely better than Morrissey, though he
had some great solo moments.

Speaking of goth - that's one style Moby hasn't tried yet,
oh yeah, and acid jazz. Mind you a lot of die-hard goth
people I know, quite like Animal Rights.

God, whatever happened to Fields of the Nephilim?  - I
thought they were brilliant, especially live! They should
try and get back together.

TMB


On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:53:48 +0100 Greening Ian
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> Well, Your Arsenal was pretty good. At least I think that's what it's
> called. It had tracks like Spring-Heeled Jim and Speedway on. And the
> wonderfully named Baz Boorer playing...
>
> Still, The Smiths totally had it. In the late 80's, when I was doing
> something of a goth phase, they were about the only interesting indie band.
> Shame they'd split up already then.
>
> Ian
>


- ----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:16:12 +0100
From: Greening Ian <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: RE: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up!

The Neff? Not that's going back a bit. If memory serves, Carl McKoy (singer
and Darth vader noises) split from the band, and set up as the Neffilim (or
some such). The band carried on under a different name.

Apparently both were shite.

Ian

- -----Original Message-----
From: Tim Beecher [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: 25 August 1999 15:05
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: RE: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up!


The Smiths were definitely better than Morrissey, though he
had some great solo moments.

Speaking of goth - that's one style Moby hasn't tried yet,
oh yeah, and acid jazz. Mind you a lot of die-hard goth
people I know, quite like Animal Rights.

God, whatever happened to Fields of the Nephilim?  - I
thought they were brilliant, especially live! They should
try and get back together.

TMB

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:19:54 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: RE: RE: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up!

Maybe that's why I haven't heard much about them, since the
split. So who were your goth heroes, or is goth an
embarrassing phase you went through?

I thought and still think some goth was great. Sorry, to
all the trend-setters out there....

TMB

On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:16:12 +0100 Greening Ian
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> The Neff? Not that's going back a bit. If memory serves, Carl McKoy (singer
> and Darth vader noises) split from the band, and set up as the Neffilim (or
> some such). The band carried on under a different name.
>
> Apparently both were shite.
>
> Ian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Beecher [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 25 August 1999 15:05
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: RE: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up!
>
>
> The Smiths were definitely better than Morrissey, though he
> had some great solo moments.
>
> Speaking of goth - that's one style Moby hasn't tried yet,
> oh yeah, and acid jazz. Mind you a lot of die-hard goth
> people I know, quite like Animal Rights.
>
> God, whatever happened to Fields of the Nephilim?  - I
> thought they were brilliant, especially live! They should
> try and get back together.
>
> TMB
>
>

- ----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:36:14 +0100
From: Greening Ian <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: RE: RE: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up!

Looking back now, goth was a slightly embarrassing phase. Still, it was fun
though.

Heroes? The Sisters, obviously. They always seemed to have the post-modern
irony/sense of humour thing pretty much down. The Neff & Bauhaus etc always
seemed to take it seriously... Lets face it, having odd hair and wearing a
lot of black (not good in summer) was a little silly. Mind you, it was as
good a reaction to an all boys boarding school as was available at the time.
Maybe 10 years and liberalised gun laws later we'd have been wearing black
trenchcoats and calling ourselves a mafia... Not good.

Who else was there? Early Nine Inch Nails were very cool. The 12" of Down In
It came into range and was bloody marvellous. Still, the above and a mate
who played lots of acid house tapes got me into techno, and hence Moby.

For what it's worth, the whole goth thing rather stopped for me when I went
to University, and discovered that life could be fun. You know, going out
with your mates without attempting to retain that impenetrable facade,
finding a woman who actually liked you, that sort of thing. I like to think
I'm a fairly well adjusted individual now. Oh yes.

I think that there are a fair amount of bands who were/are influenced by the
whole goth thing, without wearing the black and having pretensions. The God
Machine, Rico, Vast, etc. And the Prodigy to a certain extent.

And the Sisters proved that you don't need a drummer! Simplified life
immensely later on.

Much Love,

Ian

- -----Original Message-----
From: Tim Beecher [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: 25 August 1999 15:20
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: RE: RE: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up!


Maybe that's why I haven't heard much about them, since the
split. So who were your goth heroes, or is goth an
embarrassing phase you went through?

I thought and still think some goth was great. Sorry, to
all the trend-setters out there....

TMB

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:50:20 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up!

I don't know, I thought the Neff and Bauhaus, were taking
the piss as well, okay, agreed the Sisters were having
more of a laugh.

Personally, I couldn't wear a lot of black in summer, but I
don't see anything wrong with odd hair (sometimes it
looked quite 'cool') - give me odd hair any day, rather
than the mutant Manchester-scene mops of the early 90s -
now that looked silly. Everyone to their own style, I
suppose.

I had great fun as a goth, and when I got into punk, and I
still do, so life's what you make it....

Moby, now what happened to him....?

TMB

On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:36:14 +0100 Greening Ian
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> Looking back now, goth was a slightly embarrassing phase. Still, it was fun
> though.
>
> Heroes? The Sisters, obviously. They always seemed to have the post-modern
> irony/sense of humour thing pretty much down. The Neff & Bauhaus etc always
> seemed to take it seriously... Lets face it, having odd hair and wearing a
> lot of black (not good in summer) was a little silly. Mind you, it was as
> good a reaction to an all boys boarding school as was available at the time.
> Maybe 10 years and liberalised gun laws later we'd have been wearing black
> trenchcoats and calling ourselves a mafia... Not good.
>
> Who else was there? Early Nine Inch Nails were very cool. The 12" of Down In
> It came into range and was bloody marvellous. Still, the above and a mate
> who played lots of acid house tapes got me into techno, and hence Moby.
>
> For what it's worth, the whole goth thing rather stopped for me when I went
> to University, and discovered that life could be fun. You know, going out
> with your mates without attempting to retain that impenetrable facade,
> finding a woman who actually liked you, that sort of thing. I like to think
> I'm a fairly well adjusted individual now. Oh yes.
>
> I think that there are a fair amount of bands who were/are influenced by the
> whole goth thing, without wearing the black and having pretensions. The God
> Machine, Rico, Vast, etc. And the Prodigy to a certain extent.
>
> And the Sisters proved that you don't need a drummer! Simplified life
> immensely later on.
>
> Much Love,
>
> Ian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Beecher [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 25 August 1999 15:20
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: RE: RE: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up!
>
>
> Maybe that's why I haven't heard much about them, since the
> split. So who were your goth heroes, or is goth an
> embarrassing phase you went through?
>
> I thought and still think some goth was great. Sorry, to
> all the trend-setters out there....
>
> TMB
>
>

- ----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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