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mobility-digest       Thursday, August 19 1999       Volume 02 : Number 085



Re: (mobility) bald, cool people
Re: (mobility) bodyrock: a sad story
(mobility) more Catholic/Christian discussion
Re: (mobility) Re: Good Moby Pix <and> Newbie Info
(mobility) Thanks 2 moby videos
(mobility) ...Moby Videos...
Re: (mobility) ...Moby Videos...
RE: (mobility) bodyrock: a sad story
Re: (mobility) nobody gives Bodyrock any airplay here,
(mobility) sad in my little sunshine pocket
(mobility) Sunday
Re: (mobility) Sunday
Re: (mobility) Sunday
(mobility) i'm so angry i could eat meat

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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:11:00 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) bald, cool people

exceptions prove the rule

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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 06:53:32 -0700
From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) bodyrock: a sad story

> RANT BELOW-------

> >IMHO the selection of singles THUS FAR stinks to high heaven (heaven punn
> >included at no cost). Honey, Run_On, and BodyRock (maybe BodyRock excluded) just
> >don't have enough PIZZAZ to be singles. They're all very repetative which gets
> >on the nerves of the masses (present Moby maniacs not included). Let's be honest
> >here. If you're trying to attract a larger fan-base (ie: sell more
> >records/singles) you should pick songs that really KICK or are awesome to hear.

I think the songs have pizzazz but not the kind that regularly appeals to top 40
listeners.  I mean, sort of unrelated, when ever I'm mentioned MOBY lately to
friends, no one has a clue who he is.  A teenage girl I spoke to the day I went to
the show however did know but only because I said "you know, the body rock guy..."
and he said "Ohmigod!  That's so cool!"  I was thoroughly annoyed.  Most ppl either
don't know how MOBY is or they only know "Body Rock".  I was way annoyed when I girl
I work with who I met up with at the show said "Is MOBY's other stuff good?  I just
own 'Play' and I think it's great...."  I think 'Play' is great too but I also think
EVERYTHING else is too.  Of course I said "Hell yes his other stuff is good!  Go buy
it!!!!"  I always recommend 'Ambient' just because.  But I've gotten off track.  See
below rant.....

> >     I am really looking forward to WDMHFSB for this very reason. I feel that
> >this is a GREAT song and deserves to be a single. I can't wait for the remixes.
> >IMPRESS me! I dare you! I can almost HEAR the great remixes in my mind. The
> >piano chords in the song ACHE for a great remix. Show me what you got!

I think MOBY will show everyone what he's got.  He's got a lot of good material in
him (this is my prediction :-).  I was leery about 'Play' before hearing snippets of
it because frankly, I didn't like the rock stuff on 'Animal Rights' nearly as much
as I did the dreamy techno.  I loved that to death.  I was afraid it would be
something left field.  Although I think 'Play' is different I think MOBY kept it
real all in all (whatever that means :-)

> >     How about a PORCELAIN single? HEck, HALF the album can be singles. I just
> >feel that whomever is choosing this stuff (didn't sound like MOBY picked them
> >all from what I read of his interviews)just is not THINKING properly.

They're thinking "moo la" probably.  It sucks when ppl who want something other than
promoting good music get to make the choices and I'm sure that is often the case
with some really great material that bands/artists put out.  But I think the
motivation was probably related to the below rant.  Repetition sells because I don't
think most radio listeners want to have to think while they drive home from work and
I also think that maybe the ppl in charge are thinking "Gee, all those rave kids,
they buy music, in fact they buy a lot of it.  That's a section of the music buying
populace we've been neglecting....we want their money, let's release "such and such
a song" to get their attention."   I think it's sad.

>      >HOW many times do I need to hear the line:
>      >"Every Honey Comes back ... sometimes"
>      >(is that even the freakin words?)

Uh, isn't a *lot* of techno that way?  *See "rhythm is a dancer"* Crapier songs have
made more money.  Not to say that "honey" is crappy but it is to say that it is
repetitive.  I think the populous at large usually doesn't want to think very much
while they listen to the radio and therefore, receptive is usually fine.  Repetitive
sells as we've seen from past artists.  There are some songs that have more lyrics
(just barely) and sell great.  The new RHCPs song, uh, the new FastBalll song, uh,
most songs come to think of it.  A *lot* of artists (if you can call some of them
that) have these altra repetitive songs in which they say like three words and then
go on to the chorus and make slight changes to that as it goes.  Personally, I like
repetition only in techno songs because it as if the voices are instruments all
their own and they're just part of the mix whereas "pop" usually relies on the
vocals to carry the song and often times they vocals and lyrics do not, but some how
they still sell.  *sigh*

- --kimby

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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:53:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Anne N Thalheimer <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) more Catholic/Christian discussion

hi all.

Not to whomp this subject (or turn into a religious lesson), but Dave
wrote:
SO if a catholic-baptised person(like myself) doesn't believe in
Catholic teachings and ideologies(which I don't), then I'm not Catholic.

As someone who got confirmed as a Catholic nearly ten years ago under
extreme parental duress, and didn't fall in with the party line (I
actually wore a black dress to the ceremony), I don't consider myself a
Catholic in that I've seen the Church do some very bad things to a lot of
people, and for the most part a good number of the parishoners didn't even
seem to follow the Golden Rule.  So I left.

However, the Catholic Church still apparently considers me one of their
ranks, since I just was in a Catholic wedding as the maid of honor (in
part, because I was the only readily available Catholic-with-papers the
bride knew, and yes, I had to dig up a ton of records to prove I'd
actually been confirmed).  I did it as a favor to the bride, not out of
any desire to return to achurch structure I find totally repressive and
placing more stock in things like people going to church every week rather
than people trying to lead a good life.

To make a long story short, I got booted out of the confessional and
refused communion during the wedding mass in part because I wouldn't say I
was sorry for the things I've done in my life which are against Catholic
doctrine, which struck me as really strange. I don't personally feel that
I have to be in a house of worship in order to give respect to God, the
saints, Jesus, etc--and people in general!--and telling me I'm a bad
person for not doing so kinda made me cranky.

So I guess what I'm saying is one can self-identify all one likes, but
many religions (not just the Catholics) do very much stick to the notion
that you're always one of 'em (some more strictly than others).

I've also always found it interesting that Moby (see, topic's not
off-list!) talks about his spiritual/religious beliefs in such an
accessible way.  What I mean is that a lot of folks who talk about
religion make it sound like an exclusive club that one had to beg and
scrape to get into. & I've always enjoyed his liner notes on the subject.

Ok. The end. Thanks for reading.
anne

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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:12:01 -0700
From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Good Moby Pix <and> Newbie Info

> >1. it's fun to hear from moby every once in a while

> >2. it's the best way to get the most up-to-date moby news

That's why I'm here.  I was so out of touch with MOBYness.  I wanted to know
when shows were, what was being released and so on.  *sigh*

> >3. some really funny and entertaining posts from a lot of you guys
> >4. interesting discussions, from gwen stefani to overpopulation

I think Gwen is directly conected to overpopulation. REALLY!

> >5. great also for sifl n' olly news ;)

who?

> >6. nice to hear about the opinions, lives, and record-hunting habits of
> >those of you outside of the states
> >7. if i ever have a moby question, the list could probably answer it within
> >the hour!
> >8. all this email makes me feel so darn special :)
> >9. great for reading personal reviews of moby songs/albums/shows/etc., since
> >usually they're so hard to find
> >10. ....is a very nice number!

Agreed.... I also like the list because
1) There is that slim possibility of music trading with other fans and trading
stories and info.
2) Talking to ppl who share an interest with me (which seems so hard to find)
3) Hearing other ppl's opinions on music and getting to vent mine.
4) Possibility for penpals!  :-)

- --kimby

>
>

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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:17:03 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Thanks 2 moby videos

Ok I did posted this before but really didn't get the right answer.  Is there
someone out there that has a VHS tape of moby videos? and what happen to
Thanks 2 project I was really excited to hear that. but i know it's the
summer. But that is dwindling away. Plus when Moby dj's he said that he
doesn't like playing his own music. just wondering what's up with that
project. Can't wait until that DJ remix of play. Any news if Moby did some
Voodoo Child when he was recording Play I bet he did. Hmmm

OUtt with the shout, get up and Dance

- -SUn

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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:32:57 PDT
From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) ...Moby Videos...

I recommend that you buy Rockvideo Monthly Winter '95 Techno Edition, which
frequently sells on ebay cheaply. I got mine for $2.00 and shipping. It has
full videos of Eerytime You Touch Me, Feeling So Real, and Hymn (This Is My
Dream) It has all the interview footage that "Disk" does, plus more, and
also has great videos from MKFDM, Towa Tei, Prodigy, & EBN. (the EBN one is
my fave on the tape, actually) Skip "Disk", buy this video.

If you're in the UK, Action Records has Moby promo videos for James Bond
Theme, Honey, Come On Baby, and posibly more recent ones in PAL format. They
had some Honey t-shirts, too. Look 'em up on yahoo, that's how I found their
site.

I've been playing my 1st 2 Moby CDs a lot lately, Into The Blue Remixes and
self-titled. Thought I'd mention.

- -Steve


>From: [e-mail]
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: (mobility) Thanks 2 moby videos
>Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:17:03 EDT
>
>Ok I did posted this before but really didn't get the right answer.  Is
>there
>someone out there that has a VHS tape of moby videos? and what happen to
>Thanks 2 project I was really excited to hear that. but i know it's the
>summer. But that is dwindling away. Plus when Moby dj's he said that he
>doesn't like playing his own music. just wondering what's up with that
>project. Can't wait until that DJ remix of play. Any news if Moby did some
>Voodoo Child when he was recording Play I bet he did. Hmmm
>
>OUtt with the shout, get up and Dance
>
>-SUn
>


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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:06:02 -0700
From: "Michaela Gerstner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) ...Moby Videos...

the address for action records is: http://www.action-records.co.uk/

i ordered the run on CDs from them a while back for a great price!!!  i also
got a moby t-shirt as well... way too big, tho.  i spent about $20 for the 2
CDs and the shirt.. not a bad price at all!!!

and they have a pretty good selection.. more rarities then any other site
i've seen so far.

plov
- -----Original Message-----
From: Steve Giles <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 8:34 AM
Subject: (mobility) ...Moby Videos...


>
>I recommend that you buy Rockvideo Monthly Winter '95 Techno Edition, which
>frequently sells on ebay cheaply. I got mine for $2.00 and shipping. It has
>full videos of Eerytime You Touch Me, Feeling So Real, and Hymn (This Is My
>Dream) It has all the interview footage that "Disk" does, plus more, and
>also has great videos from MKFDM, Towa Tei, Prodigy, & EBN. (the EBN one is
>my fave on the tape, actually) Skip "Disk", buy this video.
>
>If you're in the UK, Action Records has Moby promo videos for James Bond
>Theme, Honey, Come On Baby, and posibly more recent ones in PAL format.
They
>had some Honey t-shirts, too. Look 'em up on yahoo, that's how I found
their
>site.
>
>I've been playing my 1st 2 Moby CDs a lot lately, Into The Blue Remixes and
>self-titled. Thought I'd mention.
>
>-Steve
>
>
>>From: [e-mail]
>>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>>To: [e-mail]
>>Subject: (mobility) Thanks 2 moby videos
>>Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:17:03 EDT
>>
>>Ok I did posted this before but really didn't get the right answer.  Is
>>there
>>someone out there that has a VHS tape of moby videos? and what happen to
>>Thanks 2 project I was really excited to hear that. but i know it's the
>>summer. But that is dwindling away. Plus when Moby dj's he said that he
>>doesn't like playing his own music. just wondering what's up with that
>>project. Can't wait until that DJ remix of play. Any news if Moby did some
>>Voodoo Child when he was recording Play I bet he did. Hmmm
>>
>>OUtt with the shout, get up and Dance
>>
>>-SUn
>>
>
>
>_______________________________________________________________
>Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
>
>

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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:27:00 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (mobility) bodyrock: a sad story

     I won't forward everything that we both said but:

     I basically agree with you.

     - Jayson
- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] at INTERNET
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 6:53 AM
To: [e-mail] at INTERNET
Subject: RE: (mobility) bodyrock: a sad story


> RANT BELOW------- from Kimby

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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 21:34:39 +0200
From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) nobody gives Bodyrock any airplay here,

Kees wrote:
>... and Wak! KINK-FM was playing Bodyrock,

YESSS, there is still hope!

Bart

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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:18:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bjorkdoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) sad in my little sunshine pocket

dang.

not only did i mess up the 3 chances i had to see moby this summer but i
just found out today that the icelandic goddess - Bjork - was in seattle
all last week filming scenes for her movie, 'dancer in the dark'.

i am sooooo completely bummed out that i missed a chance to see her up
close and personal....maybe even get a chance to talk to her.  :(

sarah
"...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..."
http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html

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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:42:36 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Sunday

Okay, so this might be old...and I'm going to bring it up again if it has
been discussed before...

But does anyone else find "Sunday" to be a REALLY pretty and moving track?
It's almost like the End of Everything album. Of course, it might as well be
really bad and I don't know it since I'm in one of my depressed moods and I
find weird stuff like this appealing sometimes. I just want to know if anyone
else finds it really good.

Also, why does so much of this mailing list have to be about religion? And
what religion Moby believes in? Does it really matter? Can't we just all
respect each others' beliefs and get on with our lives? I mean, I'm athiest,
but I still listen to other religions and what they do. Even sit through
church thingies when I go back East for my family over in PA. I respect what
they think and don't put it down or try to determine the differences between
each religion. They all believe in a god or gods...that's it...no questions
need to be asked.

Swells

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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:31:59 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Sunday

nothing beats "Spirit"...at least as far as really good b-sides.

although "Arp" is great just for the added bonus at the end....

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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:13:31 -0600
From: "dale" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Sunday

But does anyone else find "Sunday" to be a REALLY pretty and moving track?

yea, actually, it is quite a beautiful song.. ive noticed that lately on a
lot of cds ive bought, theres almost always a really moving song...
underworld's Skym on beaucoup fish,  the chemical brothers 'asleep from day'
from surrender, remy zero with 'life in rain', and vast with 'you'. all
really heart felt songs/lyric structures. etheral back grounds, beautiful
song and lyric writing, and just the right amount of feeling.
anyways, almost time to go watch moby spin at twist and shout, ill be
heading out soon, hopefully get my record flats signed...
later
- -dale-

We just smiled and waved... smiled and waved... smiled and waved...
Sittin on them bags of seeds.

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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 00:34:41 -0600
From: Kyle L Yeates <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) i'm so angry i could eat meat

Mobility,

    wow, i am really mad right now. i just got back from what should
have been a moby concert. instead i missed the chance i have been waiting
years to get. i get to the venue in denver and start standing in this
big-ass line for the show. it happens to be a free show and a dj called
vitamin d is also playing. the thing is i was standing in line and i
started talking to the guy in front of me. the first words out of his
mouth was "so what is this moby dude like. i haven't even hear of him". i
felt quite a pain at that moment. as the conversation went on, he said
that the only reason that he and all the 30 some odd of his raver friends
came for was to hear this vitamin d guy. and of course the staff for the
club all come out and tell everyone that the show is full when i am
finally about 15 feet from the door. murphy's law i guess. still, it
really disturbed me knowing that such a large percentage of the crowd was
only there for this local dj, and if it weren't for him i would probably
be watching moby as i write. i don't know. it just makes me mad that i
couldn't see the guy who was my main inspiration for becoming vegan and
one of my favorite musicians play because of all of these mindless ravers
going to do whatever their friends tell them to do, and have no interest
in the music. a cool side note though: as i was walking back behind the
venue and i saw moby's tour bus. it was really dark except for the tv set
near the front which was playing what else? the simpsons! we waited
outside of it for a while in hopes that moby would actually be in there
watching tv and cone out or something. after 20 minutes of trying to
think of ways to get him to come out if he was really there and not get
killed by some security person, we gave up and went home. thus ends the
biggest disappointment of my summer. oh well, hopefully that dj's turn
tables start fire or something 8).

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