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From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V2 #78 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes mobility-digest Thursday, August 12 1999 Volume 02 : Number 078 (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby RE: (mobility) Voodoo Child Re: (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby RE: (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby Re: (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby Re: (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby (mobility) advocate/interview cont'd RE: (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby (mobility) Plainview Long Island June 31 show Re: (mobility) Plainview Long Island June 31 show Re: (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby Re: (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby Re: (mobility) Demons/Horses RE: (mobility) Plainview Long Island June 31 show Re: (mobility) Plainview Long Island June 31 show Re: (mobility) ***Moby Disk ~ it works!!!*** (mobility) Moby in DC RE: (mobility) Moby in DC Re: (mobility) Moby in DC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:46:10 +0200 From: but not _the_ frankz <frankz@dds.nl> Subject: (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby Hi sunlovers! always thanks everyone who posts interviews and reviews of concerts, i read them all, but today i ran into some real NEGATIVE value phrases Now look-a here: 1. > D:Really? I thought you were living in England > M:No, I've never, I mean I spend a lot of time in > Europe, but thank goodness I've never had to live > there what is this? Discriminating the OLD WORLD? Motherfucking take some History lessons, you'd found out that without Europe there wouldnt be ANY USA, especially NO BIG APPLE! take three generations back of the Hall-family adn I sure you'll be in Europe! So ehh... remark stinks. 2. and i now finally undrestand why they have these (for us Europeans) totally nonsensical minimum AGE limits at pop-concerts, you'll never ever have that in here, ppl take 4-year olds to concerts, can sit on their shoulders. Good for theire musical education! > > Moby let it be known that if it were possible, he > would have sex with everyone of us in the crowd. But > since it wasn't, he said he'd play a song, which was > like having sex with all of us. For the life of me, i > can't remember which song that was." But, if I as a dad, don't want my 15-year old daughter gang-banged by a GROUP, why should it otherway round, One man fucking a whole group, would that than be allright? I dont think so, Group-sex Moby, is an ancient & stupid idea from the sixties, I still hear your mom say: "Yeah we had a great time in the sixties, so now you dont have a father!" and if i were at a concert where he'd say that, i'd scream: "Yeah, you probably better PLAY than you FUCK! So Play that SONG!" kees - -- - --------------- "ALL I WANT IS TO BE LOVED NOW!" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:57:00 -0400 From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) Voodoo Child Please see notes in the DISCOGRAPHY at www.moby.org - -----Original Message----- From: mobility@lists.xmission.com at INTERNET Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 12:34 PM To: mobility@lists.xmission.com at INTERNET Subject: (mobility) Voodoo Child hey, can anybody tell me anything about to Voodoo Child CD "Demons/Horses"? Basically, is it any good and/or comparable to Moby's other work? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:07:29 EDT From: CaMuS888@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby Kees, You seem very angry. Yeah, we don't always agree with what Moby says but come now, who are we to criticize anyone? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:10:00 -0400 From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby Kees, You're crazy. I got the feeling that he meant something totally DIFFERENT by that remark. I hear it's terribly expensive to live in London, England so naturally I would not like to live there because it's too expensive. This could be a logical reason why Moby might say such a thing. I ALSO hear it's REALLY expensive (and beautiful) in Paris, France. Although I'd probably LOVE living there, I'd be broke pretty damn quick so I'm glad I don't live there too. You see what I mean? Besides ... what's with this "If it wasn't for us you would never be there ..." crap? What? This whole continent over here never would have been found? EVER? BY ANYONE other than Europeans? That's rediculous. It's also rediculous to state stuff like "You never would have been there if it were not for us!". That just doesn't make sense. Then the USA has to come back and say "Where you YOU guys be if not for us during WWI & WWII??" There is not point in saying these things. It leads nowhere. - Jayson Magnus - -----Original Message----- Now look-a here: 1. > D:Really? I thought you were living in England > M:No, I've never, I mean I spend a lot of time in > Europe, but thank goodness I've never had to live > there what is this? Discriminating the OLD WORLD? Motherfucking take some History lessons, you'd found out that without Europe there wouldnt be ANY USA, especially NO BIG APPLE! take three generations back of the Hall-family adn I sure you'll be in Europe! So ehh... remark stinks. kees - -- - --------------- "ALL I WANT IS TO BE LOVED NOW!" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 15:25:53 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) From: Tim Beecher <T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk> Subject: Re: (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby Okay, now others are over-reacting. I think what Kees meant was that there would be no U.S.A., as you know it, if it wasn't for europe. Maybe the native american indians would've made the americas a much better place then it is now - and showed europe a thing or to about living in harmony with nature and not being greedy, ego-centric, aggressive, possessive twats!? Personally I love living in this country, at the moment, and I've been to many others places(including New York City). Home is where the heart is and, I suppose, it's what you're used to. There again, I may find somewhere in India or the Amamzonian forest, or some tropical island, I might prefer to call home some day? Who knows? I'm always willing to explore and experience different avenues, if possible. TMB - ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:33:31 EDT From: CaMuS888@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby Ok..... So what if Moby wouldn't like to live in Europe!?!?! We don't know his reasons for saying that, so why are we jumping down his throat? Maybe he just doesn't like it there! Looks like someone is finding ridiculous reasons to hate & criticize Moby.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:03:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) advocate/interview cont'd saw this in the NH Advocate yesterday: FINAL BLESSINGS By Christopher Arnott T-shirts spied at the Moby show at Toad's Place on July 25: Phish. Robert Plant. Chisel. Naked Raygun. Wells Guitars. Schoolhouse Rock. (i think i saw that 1ne!)Daytona Beach Spring Break. Allman Brothers. The Fairy from Fractured Fairy tales (okay that last one was ours)(see below for tshirts I saw that they missed) plus miscelaneous vegan and animal rights slogans. We wouldn't have been surprised if some fans had shown up in choir robes. Moby has a good sense of his crossover appeal, so he (guitar, vocals) and three fellow musicians (bass, drums, percussion) delivered a set that, despite being dependant on pre-recorded elements, behaved like a live rock show rather than a DJ party. There were also illuminating lighting effects, and this is where---even if you don't know that Moby is a devout and moralistic Christian (someones not on Mobility!!!)---the messiah complex innate in most DJs/producers emerged. After the band was dismissed for the finale, Moby was bathed in spotlights as he raised himself up on a platform high above the crowd, stretched out his arms crucifixion-stlye, and just stood there basking in the light (ah yes, the infamous "Thousand" finale works every time) Didn't sing a word this time. Just basked and glowered Oh, there was that other divine moment, when Moby took the mic to ask the Toad's lackeys if he could get some bottled water to quench the band's thirst in the hot packed club. "If there was enough water for everyone, i'd go get it." he added with a glow of Christian charitableness. "Next time, I proise we'll bring water from everyone." You have expected someone at this rockish revival meeting to pass him a few loaves and fishes to see what he could do to them. Well, he might eat the bread, he wouldnt eat fish tho.. and i remember this, he had some dudes throw water bottles into the crowd. i touched one, but i didnt get a grip on it. and several times, the band members sprayed us with water so i got wet there. tshirts i saw: Soul Coughing _El Oso_ Atari Teenage Riot "Destroy 2000 Years Of Culture" Dead Milkmen "Fear Of A Beige Planet Tour" (ROCK!! I almost screamed at that guy YOU ROCK!!!) Moby (i saw a bunch of little kids with Moby EIW tour shirts, pretty cool) Juno Reactor (i was talking to that guy, he said he went into JR's tour bus!!!!!) KMFMS (yes KMFMS, it looked like a FDM album cover but it said KMFMS and said www.kmfms.com so go there and find out what it is.....) yay!!!!! okay heres more from that interview i told u about...... it says about why Moby does liners and not song lyrics (it takes away from the song to write down the lyrics and anyway the lyrics are all chantlike, who needs that written down?) Davo:can I ask you a technical question? Moby:Sure D:I saw a photo on the internet, it showed a Yamaha Tx16W in your act, do you still use that? M:I use that maybe once every couple of years for a single string sound D:one sound? M:Yeah, it used to be my only sampler, it was the first sampler i ever bought, it was the most obscure difficulties of equipment I ever had D:You still use the Yamaha operating system rather than the Typhoon operating system? M:I didn't know there was a Typhoon operating system D:You're familiar with Rebirth? M:Yeah D:One of the guys who wrote Rebirth, one of his first programs, the UOS (?) for the TX, which makes it a lot easier (of course, i have no clue what any of this means, so if its wrong dont blame me!!!) M:Oh, Im sure D:I got one at home that I use all the time M:I got my Akai S950, S1000, S3000, S3200 which the operating systems on those are so intuitive that my TX16W just basically collects dust. D:Yeah let me know if you ever want to sell it cuz I love that 12-bit crunch sound on the drums, I love that very dirty powerful sounding sampler... then it talks about the vocal samples, then my tape ran out. I remember him talking about Toad's Place, hed been there so many times, He saw RHCP (chili peppers) in like 86 or whatever, he saw the Sugarcubes, he saw Aztec Camera, etc. okay guess thatz it bye! === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:02:37 -0400 From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <gold@netrox.net> Subject: RE: (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby > Kees, > > You're crazy. I'll vote to that! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:15:19 -0700 From: "Chris Hand" <tripwire@vdot.net> Subject: (mobility) Plainview Long Island June 31 show I just saw him perform at Woodstock a few days before, so I liked the fact that he could play a full setlist. I'm sure he plays about the same setlist for the whole show except the encore. Of course he did a 1000, but also he broke out with some old rock tunes like Black Sabbath's Paranoid, Sweet Child of Mine, and some jazz cover of Stairway to Heaven. I like the fact that most of his equipment is beat to all hell and duck taped, especicially his famed drum octopad with only 3 programs that work. He even said "I would like to have sex with all of you." I was right behind the monitor where he kept jumping up and standing. It was a course a great show and everything. Everyone bailed after the concert, so me and a friend stood by the tour bus. He walked out and we kind of humbly waved at him, and he waved for us to come over. We didn't want to swamp him or anything after he was just swamped with press. He drew his little self portrait with a "love moby" on my tshirt, he even took our information and phone numbers. He talked about not being used to Long Island that much, and used to the Manhattan scene a bit more, and is home town in conneticut. I asked him why he doesn't use any animal rights song, and he said because his bassist doesn't know the songs yet. I of course did the whole suckup thing to him, cause I didn't know what to say. I told him that Animal Rights is my favorite album even though I know he took a lot of shit for it. And he said thank thank you. He is really humble and nice and down to earth. We eventually let him go to his tour bus though, cause after jumping around on stage for2 hrs, you got to be tired. Anyways it was a really good show in a small setting. Anyways, later.. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:27:38 EDT From: CaMuS888@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Plainview Long Island June 31 show Hey Chris, I was at the Vanderbilt that night too! I was the one who handed him somehting while he was performing, in case you saw. I was gonna wait for him by his bus but we thought he'd get outta there pretty late. What time was it, do u remember? Are u the one I asked for a light? ~Vedaben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:45:55 -0700 (PDT) From: J Holland <mobscene@go.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby kees dude, chill! #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # find it amusing. fight the power. ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:10:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Jerry Jerryson <alvin_maker@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby That was a very hard to understand email...but just wanted to say one thing. I have had some history lessons and I know that half the royal family is inbred which is a much more "ancient" practice than group sex... _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:20:05 +0200 From: "Bart van Eijck" <eijck@IAE.nl> Subject: Re: (mobility) Demons/Horses >hey, can anybody tell me anything about to Voodoo Child CD "Demons/Horses"? >Basically, is it any good and/or comparable to Moby's other work? I like it very much! Both songs are VERY repetitive and are about 20 minutes of hard techno acid each. bam bam bam bam bam bleep bleep bleep bam bam bam bleep They are a bit like Desperate from the Higher/Desperate single from Voodoo Child, but muuuuch longer and more minimal. Bart np: Eiffel 65 - Blue (dub mix) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:41:14 -0700 From: "Chris Hand" <tripwire@vdot.net> Subject: RE: (mobility) Plainview Long Island June 31 show Vedaben I can't remember if you asked me for a light or not.... I dunno we waited for about 30 mins, wasn't too long...I think around 2 a.m. he came out. >Hey Chris, > > I was at the Vanderbilt that night too! I was the one who handed him >somehting while he was performing, in case you saw. I was gonna wait for him >by his bus but we thought he'd get outta there pretty late. What time was >it, do u remember? Are u the one I asked for a light? ~Vedaben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:41:59 EDT From: CaMuS888@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Plainview Long Island June 31 show We wanted to wait but figured he'd never come out and we'd look like assholes. He asked u for your address? Do u think he's gonna write? I wrote my name and address on the back of the poem i gave him....still waiting foor him to write me. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:24:53 -0500 From: John Turpin <jct1@Ra.MsState.Edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) ***Moby Disk ~ it works!!!*** >>I bet it's not on MS's site! :) Try <http://www.quicktime.com/> >> >yeah.. i know u can download from the quicktime site.. but i dunno how i >got this copy on my computer because i never had it before. microsoft >update allows u to download programs like the quicktime.. that's the only >way i could have gotten it because i haven't downloaded the program from the >site. Considering how QuickTime competes with Windows Media Player (or whatever it's called), and especially since MS tried to get Apple to kill QT, I still doubt MS would facilitate your downloading of QT. But anyway... - -- The C.O.D. / John Turpin / <http://www2.msstate.edu/~jct1/cod/> "I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 23:32:32 EDT From: PuffDanny2@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Moby in DC Hey everyone, tickets go on sale this friday 13th for Moby's show in DC. It's at "The Nation." It's an all ages show and doors open at 7. Does anybody know anything about this club and will anybody else be going? Lemme know. Later player haterz. - -Danny ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 00:15:21 -0400 From: "Greg Schnippel" <schnippy@sigmanet.net> Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby in DC Nation is D.C.'s coolest rave/dance club. They consistently get top acts like Sasha & Digweed and Paul Oakenfeld. I was very excited to hear that Moby's stop through D.C. will be at nation 9:30 club.. Nation's facilities (its huge with plenty of places to chill out or dance) are much better suited for 'dance' acts. Nation is in a bad neighborhood so bring cash for parking if you have a car and park in their secured lot. Its 19 and over only and they have a stack of rules to keep themselves from getting busted again, so no toys or candy or stickers or cameras or pencils/pens etc. I'm at nation about twice a month anymore and I definitely definitely plan on going.. If anyone has any more questions .. let me know.. ;) any other dc-ravers here? - -schnippy > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of > PuffDanny2@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 11:33 PM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (mobility) Moby in DC > > > Hey everyone, tickets go on sale this friday 13th for Moby's show > in DC. It's > at "The Nation." It's an all ages show and doors open at 7. Does > anybody know > anything about this club and will anybody else be going? Lemme > know. Later > player haterz. > -Danny > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 02:05:35 -0400 From: "Dave Linn" <veganboy@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in DC This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BEE467.2A46CCC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tickets go on sale on friday for moby at nation, but where? the show is = on friday 9/10, right? any vegans out there? - --dave -----Original Message----- From: Greg Schnippel <schnippy@sigmanet.net> To: mobility@lists.xmission.com <mobility@lists.xmission.com> Date: Thursday, August 12, 1999 12:18 AM Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby in DC =20 =20 =20 Nation is D.C.'s coolest rave/dance club. They consistently get top acts like Sasha & Digweed and Paul Oakenfeld. I was very excited to hear that Moby's stop through D.C. will be at nation 9:30 club.. Nation's facilities (its huge with plenty of places to chill out or dance) are much better suited for 'dance' acts.=20 =20 Nation is in a bad neighborhood so bring cash for parking if you have a car and park in their secured lot. Its 19 and over only and they have a stack of rules to keep themselves from getting busted again, so no toys or candy or stickers or cameras or pencils/pens etc.=20 =20 I'm at nation about twice a month anymore and I definitely definitely plan on going.. If anyone has any more=20 questions .. let me know.. ;) =20 any other dc-ravers here? =20 -schnippy =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of > PuffDanny2@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 11:33 PM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (mobility) Moby in DC >=20 >=20 > Hey everyone, tickets go on sale this friday 13th for Moby's show=20 > in DC. It's=20 > at "The Nation." It's an all ages show and doors open at 7. Does=20 > anybody know=20 > anything about this club and will anybody else be going? Lemme=20 > know. Later=20 > player haterz. > -Danny >=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BEE467.2A46CCC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV>tickets go on sale on = friday for=20 moby at nation, but where? the show is on friday 9/10,=20 right?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>any vegans out=20 there?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>--dave</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ff0000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px"> <DIV>-----Original = Message----- From:=20 Greg Schnippel <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:schnippy@sigmanet.net">schnippy@sigmanet.net</A>> <B= >To:=20 <A=20 = href=3D"mailto:mobility@lists.xmission.com">mobility@lists.xmission.com</= A>=20 <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:mobility@lists.xmission.com">mobility@lists.xmission.com</= A>> Date:=20 Thursday, August 12, 1999 12:18 AM Subject: RE: = (mobility)=20 Moby in DC </DIV> Nation is D.C.'s coolest = rave/dance club.=20 They consistently get top acts like Sasha & Digweed and Paul=20 Oakenfeld. I was very excited to hear that Moby's stop through=20 D.C. will be at nation 9:30 club.. Nation's facilities (its = huge with=20 plenty of places to chill out or dance) are much better suited = for=20 'dance' acts. Nation is in a bad neighborhood so bring cash = for=20 parking if you have a car and park in their secured lot. Its = 19 and=20 over only and they have a stack of rules to keep themselves from = getting=20 busted again, so no toys or candy or stickers or cameras or = pencils/pens=20 etc. I'm at nation about twice a month anymore and I=20 definitely definitely plan on going.. If anyone has any more=20 questions .. let me know.. ;) any other dc-ravers=20 here? -schnippy > -----Original = Message----- > From:=20 <A=20 = href=3D"mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com">owner-mobility@lists.xm= ission.com</A> >=20 [<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com">mailto:owner-mobility@l= ists.xmission.com</A>]On=20 Behalf Of > <A=20 href=3D"mailto:PuffDanny2@aol.com">PuffDanny2@aol.com</A> > = Sent:=20 Wednesday, August 11, 1999 11:33 PM > To: <A=20 = href=3D"mailto:mobility@lists.xmission.com">mobility@lists.xmission.com</= A> >=20 Subject: (mobility) Moby in DC > > > Hey = everyone,=20 tickets go on sale this friday 13th for Moby's show > in DC. = It's=20 > at "The Nation." It's an all ages show and doors = open at=20 7. Does > anybody know > anything about this club and = will=20 anybody else be going? Lemme > know. Later > player=20 haterz. > -Danny > </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BEE467.2A46CCC0-- ------------------------------ End of mobility-digest V2 #78 ***************************** ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility-digest" in the body.