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From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest)
To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: mobility-digest V2 #75
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mobility-digest Saturday, August 7 1999 Volume 02 : Number 075
Re: (mobility) Mobility @ Florida?
Re: (mobility) meeting moby...
(mobility) Seattle Post-Intelligencer article on Moby
RE: (mobility) Even longer post, but please read
(mobility) Moby at toads place in CT
(mobility) RE: AJ!Live Show
(mobility) Peanut: SELL OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN?
(mobility) In 5-10 years ... who will care?
RE: (mobility) what makes it great...
Re: (mobility) -->intro for travis.
Re: (mobility) -->intro for travis.
(mobility) moby never....
RE: (mobility) Live Show (non moby kinda)
Re: (mobility) Moby at toads place in CT
(mobility) most art = Mozart
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Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 16:53:49 -0400
From: Brian Johnston <brian@guavaween.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Mobility @ Florida?
oh i didn't realize it ws so damn big. i don't do st. pete except when i
have to, like now.
yeah i thknit'd be fun to meet somewhere, either here in tampa or across the
bay in st. pete. more on this i guess when it gets closer.
cheers
bj
david chamberlain wrote:
> First of all Jannus is a large Venue, i think it holds a couple grand.
> It outdoors which sucks in the summer. Everyone raves about this place,
> I completely prefer the rubb for concerts. Security at Jannus is abitch
> and I'm worried about getting to meet Moby at all after the show. But
> anyway I will be there, maybe we should get a meet together or
> something. oh yeah and be prepared for the jannus portapottys!!
>
> dave
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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 14:42:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bjorkdoll <slurb@scn.org>
Subject: Re: (mobility) meeting moby...
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Derek ~ wrote:
> i've got a question. when you're at moby shows how do you get the chance to
> meet him afterwards? if i ever get to go to one of his shows i'd like to do
> that. it'd be pretty fun.
"I'm a bit of a loser and stick around after the shows."
- Moby
Said to me during my chat with him at ARO.space in Seattle on May 21, '99.
:)
So just hang out afterwards, in the lobby, by the concessions, outside,
etc and I'm sure you'll bump into him. Look for the cute little balding
guy. *hehe*
Oh and for anyone in Seattle going to "Paradox" tonite (info at
206.517.2605); I'll be wearing this shirt -
http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll2/images/cockybjork.jpg
Later!
la.da.dee.da.da.da.da.da.Sarah
"...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..."
http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html
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::::::::::::::::from levelheadedness::::::::::
::::::::::and the unnecessary luxury::::::::::
:::::::::::::::::::::::of being calm::::::::::
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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 16:26:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Travis Zickafoose <traviszickafoose@yahoo.com>
Subject: (mobility) Seattle Post-Intelligencer article on Moby
Moby infuses electronica with gospel, hip-hop, blues
Friday, August 6, 1999
By GENE STOUT <Picture: Mail Author>
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER
POP MUSIC CRITIC
Moby's new album, "Play," is an orgy of musical
eclecticism.
The electronic-music artist turns convention
upside-down with his mesmerizing blend of throbbing
hip-hop, ambient piano noodlings and early
20th-century blues and gospel fused with modern
electronic beats.
But "Play" isn't a concept album, Moby explains.
"My only agenda in making a record is to make
something that I love and that I think is interesting
and compelling," he said in a phone interview.
"And hopefully in the process, I can make something
that other people will love and find interesting too."
Moby, who performs at the electronica pavilion at
KNDD-FM's "End Fest" tomorrow at the Kitsap County
Fairgrounds in Bremerton, put his stamp on techno with
the 1990 recording of "Go." It became an anthem of the
international rave scene. But his resumΘ includes punk
rocker and soundtrack composer as well as techno
artist.
"Play," one of coolest electronic-music albums of the
year, has the stylistic breadth to appeal to the most
dedicated fans of the genre as well as casual but
adventurous pop listeners.
Most of the album was recorded in his home studio in
the South Bronx. Moby wrote all the songs and played
all the instruments. He also sang on a number of
tracks.
"Play" opens with "Honey," featuring singer Bessie
Jones' earthy vocals over Moby's funky, shuffling
beats and pounding piano. Synthesizers brighten the
pleading gospel vocals of "Why Does My Heart Feel So
Bad?" And on "Natural Blues," Vera Hall, a gospel
singer of the '40s, sings "Ooh, Lawdy, troubles so
hard" over a rumbling honky-tonk piano that takes the
floor right out from under you.
Moby sampled vintage blues and gospel music from field
recordings made by folklorist Alan Lomax in the 1920s,
'30s and '40s. Some of Lomax's recordings are
available on Atlantic Records and Rhino Records.
"(Lomax) spent his whole life just driving around the
country and recording as much indigenous music as he
could get his hands on," Moby said.
Lomax used some of the best recording equipment
available at the time.
"That's one of the reasons I was able to incorporate
these vocals into the album," Moby said.
"Some of his recordings are great to listen to, but
they're sort of unusable because the sonic quality is
so limited. But so many of them were pristinely
recorded."
Moby, a descendant of "Moby Dick" author Herman
Melville, got his nickname from his parents (his real
name is Richard Hall). His father died when he was 2.
"I grew up in a musically eclectic household," he
said. "My mom played piano and she was always
listening to different kinds of music, everything from
classical music to folk music to rock and jazz and pop
and blues.
"So I grew up hearing all these different types of
music and she had lots of friends who were musicians.
We always had a lot of musical instruments around and
she encouraged me to
take lessons and pursue music in any way that I
wanted."
Moby once quipped to a reporter that history's first
rave might have been the celebration that greeted the
arrival of the Ark of the Covenant in Jerusalem. His
new album suggests a connection between the giddy
excitement of rave music and the inspirational music
of church.
Though he isn't a religious person, Moby thanks Jesus
Christ in the liner notes for "Play."
"I love Christ and I love the teachings of Christ," he
said. "But I don't see how by anyone's conventional
definition I could be considered a religious person.
My mother, if I could describe her, was a pantheist.
She didn't have any specific religious belief."
Moby's current tour included a stop at the recent
Woodstock festival, where about $5,000 in Moby
T-shirts and merchandise were trashed and burned by
rioters.
"I do my own merchandise, so it wasn't like they were
sticking it to some faceless corporation. It was poor
little me getting my T-shirts burned," Moby said.
At End Fest, Moby will perform two sets, one as a DJ
and another with a full band -- drummer, bassist, and
a percussionist. The lineup at the Electronic Pavilion
includes Freestylers, Len, Dub Pistols and Jungle
Brothers.
"End Fest '99," billed as an "All-Star Rock 'n' Roll
Grudge Match," also features nearly a dozen
modern-rock acts on the main stage. They include Blink
182, Citizen King, Kid Rock, Zebrahead, Primus,
Deftones, Orgy, Eve 6, Joydrop and Pennywise.
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:41:00 -0400
From: jgmagnus@bkb.com
Subject: RE: (mobility) Even longer post, but please read
Dan,
i believe that Gwen Steffani (old debate! ack! run!) sang a version of
South Side for Moby (which he was very thankful for and said she worked
super-hard on).
IN MY OPINION, if Moby wanted to "appeal" to a larger audience then he
DEFINATELY would have chosen her version because she has had more radio play and
exposure to mainstream than MOby has (I think we can all agree on the mainstream
part).
BUT instead, he chose HIS version of the song because he believed it felt
more right (or he just liked it better). Wouldn't this suggest that he is just
doing whatever-the-hell he wants and if you like it then WHOOOO-HOOO!!
I agree that we can't like ALL of MOby's songs. A few here and there are
crappy. At least he just doesn't make a WHOLE album of crap like some bands out
there who have like ONE single and try to put out an album and MILK the one
single for all it's worth (I don't blame them, but screw em anyway!).
Later,
Jayson
- -----Original Message-----
Fair enough. I agree. I don't think Moby qualifies as a Britney Spears/BSB
Sellout at all. I do think that the release of a song like South Side
suggests a desire to appeal to that audience.
and that in this instance
his taste produced a track (South Side) that is reaalllly poppy. I think the
song is catchy. But it is not on the same level as Natural Blues or even a
poppy song like Bodyrock.
have wider appeal that produced "South
Side" I do NOT think it is anywhere near as good a song as those are.
Dan Lee aka Roy Batty
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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 19:43:01 EDT
From: MCGERMS@aol.com
Subject: (mobility) Moby at toads place in CT
Hi my name is jeremy and Im new to this list. I saw moby at toads and it was
a great vibe. So many hot chicks . Moby is very talented. I would see his
music go pretty far . I like the way he moves from one side of the stage to
other. Well thats all I gotta say.
keep it real moby fans
Jeremy
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:56:00 -0400
From: jgmagnus@bkb.com
Subject: (mobility) RE: AJ!Live Show
AJ,
I believe the August show is an IN STUDIO kind of thing. I'm sure there
will be more to come about this, but it will probably be impossible to get
tickets ...
- Jayson
- -----Original Message-----
From: mobility@lists.xmission.com at INTERNET
Sent: Friday, August 06, 1999 1:40 PM
To: mobility@lists.xmission.com at INTERNET
Subject: (mobility) Live Show
Attempt number 3.
There is a Moby show in Boston on the 26th of August. Can anyone give me any
information on this? All it says is the call letters of some radio station.
Anyone know anything?
Also, how many times do we need to have this selling out conversation. And to
Mandi (?) even if Moby sells out you will still like him and it shouldn't
matter if he sells out or not. When Prodigy sold old (changing from The
Prodigy) their music completely changed and a lot of people who used to be
fans didn't like them, or at least their new music anymore. So, should Moby
sell out like that (he loves album right?) how can you say that you would
still like him? I have around 60 dif Moby CDs, but if he made a an album like
Fat of the Land, and continued in that course, I would quickly connect to eBay
and make some of you happy. Of course, I doubt Moby would ever do that, but
what if?
Boston - please help!
AJ
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 12:08:00 -0400
From: jgmagnus@bkb.com
Subject: (mobility) Peanut: SELL OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN?
I enjoyed what you had to say Peanut. It's a good reality-check.
- Jayson
- -----Original Message-----
I don't need a mansion,or a limo,or my name up in lights.I don't want to be
living on the streets again either.But if selling out to smaller degrees is
the difference between making pizza's and making music,show mw the dotted
line.
"The only man I ever knew who didn't sell out was the man who died clutching
his unfulfilled dreams in the street"
much love
peanut
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:04:00 -0400
From: jgmagnus@bkb.com
Subject: (mobility) In 5-10 years ... who will care?
EXACTLY! example: Boyz2Men, who the hell cares about them now? nobody
(well, maybe a couple people, but screw them too!)
- Jayson
- -----Original Message-----
BSB, Spice girls, N-Synch, 98degrees and however many other manufactured pop
groups their are making $. The only reason they are around is that people
are spending money on their stuff. But hey, in 1 or 2 years will anyone
really remember who BSB is or Ricky Martin, in 5-10 they will be completely
wiped out of the society's collective consciousness.
does it really matter who is more "hardcore" or and "honest" artist? people
buy what they like, Pop music is usually trash anyway and you don't walk
into a Wal-Mat and honesty expect a good selection of Moby
imports....nonono...you get top 40 pop.
Everything is relative!
- ---
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cstepanek@nny.com - ICQ# 25163388
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:14:00 -0400
From: jgmagnus@bkb.com
Subject: RE: (mobility) what makes it great...
Good question!!!
the harmony (like in Porcelain, EverLoving)<-- Sarah agrees!
the creativity (like in Sunday, ARP, Shining)
I REALLY enjoy when I hear a song and say to myself:
"WOW! How did they ever THINK to come up with that?! They're a musical
genius!"
MOBY makes me think this ALL the time. Some of his music is so SIMPLE yet
PERFECT. Moby brings out images and moods in me (and my mind) that other artists
just DON'T DO. Why? Maybe he puts more feeling or time into his work. Who knows?
But when I hear it I just CANNOT believe it! It's songs like
PORCELAIN/EVERLOVING that I can listen to OVER and OVER again and NEVER get
tired of listening to them. BTW - I'm REALLY starting to get crazy for
"Rushing". The more I hear that song the more I am REALLY liking it. So
peaceful! It puts me at ease.
good question!
- Jayson
- -----Original Message-----
just out of curiosity...
what makes a song great:
a catchy melody?
the artist behind it?
the emotion it evokes in you?
the lyrics?
I was just wondering why you guys love the music that you do...
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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 19:57:53 -0500
From: John Turpin <jct1@Ra.MsState.Edu>
Subject: Re: (mobility) -->intro for travis.
>my first audio experience of moby was after i bought
>animal rights. i really enjoy his work, and look
>foward to seeing him perform live in 2 days at
>Endfest, a local mucic festival.
As in, New Orleans? Moby's playing at Endfest?! :\ I wish I'd known. :(
- --
"The unlived life is not worth examining."
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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 19:10:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bjorkdoll <slurb@scn.org>
Subject: Re: (mobility) -->intro for travis.
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, John Turpin wrote:
> >my first audio experience of moby was after i bought
> >animal rights. i really enjoy his work, and look
> >foward to seeing him perform live in 2 days at
> >Endfest, a local mucic festival.
>
> As in, New Orleans? Moby's playing at Endfest?! :\ I wish I'd known. :(
Hmmm...I thought Travis was talking about the Endfest here in Seattle that
is sponsored by KNDD - 107.7 The End...a local radio station.
Sarah
"...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..."
http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::rescue me::::::::::
::::::::::::::::from levelheadedness::::::::::
::::::::::and the unnecessary luxury::::::::::
:::::::::::::::::::::::of being calm::::::::::
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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 19:27:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: julius marx <cerebusluvsjaka@yahoo.com>
Subject: (mobility) moby never....
moby never talks about anything but his own music.
when moby talks about his music, he makes sure that
he's always talking about the next thing that will be
coming out so people can go buy it. and just to be
sure he get's his point across, he says it when half
the people aren't listening, so he get's to talk about
it himself. he does that with tour dates as well.
because no one should have to call bass or
ticketmaster or there local ticket seller. and they
DEFINITELY shouldn't have to go to someplace that
sells tickets and ask when and where he's playing.
he's also really concerned that people think he may be
a sell out. that's why he keeps making records that
have a bunch of different types of music on them so
that they can't be classified as one thing. that way
the sell millions of albums and he's all over mtv just
like the backstreet boys. who moby really admires. oh
yeah! and all those things he writes about in his cd
inserts, they don't mean anything! he has a ghost
writer type those up so that he'll be more excepted by
the mainstream and sell even more records! but he
never discusses them..no,no!
'k, gotta go, buh-bye! met some cool people on this
list! but i'm getting too much email. i think i'll
check back in six months or so to see what's going on.
not that i expect it to change much.
here i go to un-subscribe! which means that christian
is, outta your lives!
peace-christian
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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:38:00 -0400
From: jgmagnus@bkb.com
Subject: RE: (mobility) Live Show (non moby kinda)
yup! Good ol Boston radio
- -----Original Message-----
From: mobility@lists.xmission.com at INTERNET
Sent: Friday, August 06, 1999 12:12 PM
To: <mobility@lists.xmission.com> at INTERNET
Subject: RE: (mobility) Live Show (non moby kinda)
> i believe the call letters of the radio station are: WBCN
hey isnt that the beginning of Fatboy Slim's Rockerfella Skank?
The little radio dj part in the beginning?
yus vunderin
eric
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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 23:45:40 -0400
From: "nodata@pop.prodigy.net" <nodata@pop.prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby at toads place in CT
oh ya i was there too. the show was rocking. it was like the best show i've
seen in the last couples of months.
- - raine
Original Message:
- -----------------
Hi my name is jeremy and Im new to this list. I saw moby at toads and it was
a great vibe. So many hot chicks . Moby is very talented. I would see his
music go pretty far . I like the way he moves from one side of the stage to
other. Well thats all I gotta say.
keep it real moby fans
Jeremy
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Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 08:17:05 +0200
From: but not _the_ frankz <frankz@dds.nl>
Subject: (mobility) most art = Mozart
what makes a song great?
is a great question.
someone wrote:
> i mean yeah, moby is cool and all
> that but nothing off play would make it onto my top 25 songs
> of all time. i think
NAWWW
you dont know that, just guessing,
let me tell you about Mozart, the little motherfucker,
now do you think Mozart would be thinking he was in the top 10 100 of
all times?
no way, in the 1800' let's say 1902 NOBODY knew Mozart, he was an ass
name from the old days, and in my filosophy he still is, ONLY because
of a Hollywood movie he became famous again, some ass played his HAIR
or sumthing, i never saw the film, but i tell you, Mozart is the MINOR
Michael Jackson of his time...
So dont talk about songs getting great, cause it's all Pavlov!
Pavlov is what makes a song great
When your saliva (???) runs in your mouth, that's when a song is
great,
it's already there, it was there allways and allways will be there,
there's in fact ONLY one song great, and that is the song that GOD
sings:
and it's called:
Why Does My heart Feel So Black?
- - what makes a song great is the percentage of honesty,
ha
and the way they have ears open,
not forget only 5% of humans pop can listen! not much heh?
rest is def(t) think about music as wallpaper,
so dont worry, only 5% of Mobility members have ears too
that's the way it goes folks, with percentages...
i'm sorry,
Geniuses have always ears, now how many percentage is Genius?
- -----------
Last week i bought a cd (5,-) just because it looked right and it was
called: "Uncle Meat", <Underneath>,
i dont know but i liked the cover, and it's good Speed-garage or
something, no.... Concrete metal? eh Dub-techno, nah i dont know,
but it's GOOD!
So Paul, yo tape is ready! comin up state!
"I dont want NOBODY
to run my life!"
(mixmastermorris)
'where are my clothes?' (kees)
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i live in a car
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