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From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V2 #75 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes mobility-digest Saturday, August 7 1999 Volume 02 : Number 075 Re: (mobility) Mobility @ Florida? Re: (mobility) meeting moby... (mobility) Seattle Post-Intelligencer article on Moby RE: (mobility) Even longer post, but please read (mobility) Moby at toads place in CT (mobility) RE: AJ!Live Show (mobility) Peanut: SELL OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN? (mobility) In 5-10 years ... who will care? RE: (mobility) what makes it great... Re: (mobility) -->intro for travis. Re: (mobility) -->intro for travis. (mobility) moby never.... RE: (mobility) Live Show (non moby kinda) Re: (mobility) Moby at toads place in CT (mobility) most art = Mozart ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 16:53:49 -0400 From: Brian Johnston <brian@guavaween.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Mobility @ Florida? oh i didn't realize it ws so damn big. i don't do st. pete except when i have to, like now. yeah i thknit'd be fun to meet somewhere, either here in tampa or across the bay in st. pete. more on this i guess when it gets closer. cheers bj david chamberlain wrote: > First of all Jannus is a large Venue, i think it holds a couple grand. > It outdoors which sucks in the summer. Everyone raves about this place, > I completely prefer the rubb for concerts. Security at Jannus is abitch > and I'm worried about getting to meet Moby at all after the show. But > anyway I will be there, maybe we should get a meet together or > something. oh yeah and be prepared for the jannus portapottys!! > > dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 14:42:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Bjorkdoll <slurb@scn.org> Subject: Re: (mobility) meeting moby... On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Derek ~ wrote: > i've got a question. when you're at moby shows how do you get the chance to > meet him afterwards? if i ever get to go to one of his shows i'd like to do > that. it'd be pretty fun. "I'm a bit of a loser and stick around after the shows." - Moby Said to me during my chat with him at ARO.space in Seattle on May 21, '99. :) So just hang out afterwards, in the lobby, by the concessions, outside, etc and I'm sure you'll bump into him. Look for the cute little balding guy. *hehe* Oh and for anyone in Seattle going to "Paradox" tonite (info at 206.517.2605); I'll be wearing this shirt - http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll2/images/cockybjork.jpg Later! la.da.dee.da.da.da.da.da.Sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html :::::::::::::::::::::::::::rescue me:::::::::: ::::::::::::::::from levelheadedness:::::::::: ::::::::::and the unnecessary luxury:::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::of being calm:::::::::: ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 16:26:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Travis Zickafoose <traviszickafoose@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) Seattle Post-Intelligencer article on Moby Moby infuses electronica with gospel, hip-hop, blues Friday, August 6, 1999 By GENE STOUT <Picture: Mail Author> SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER POP MUSIC CRITIC Moby's new album, "Play," is an orgy of musical eclecticism. The electronic-music artist turns convention upside-down with his mesmerizing blend of throbbing hip-hop, ambient piano noodlings and early 20th-century blues and gospel fused with modern electronic beats. But "Play" isn't a concept album, Moby explains. "My only agenda in making a record is to make something that I love and that I think is interesting and compelling," he said in a phone interview. "And hopefully in the process, I can make something that other people will love and find interesting too." Moby, who performs at the electronica pavilion at KNDD-FM's "End Fest" tomorrow at the Kitsap County Fairgrounds in Bremerton, put his stamp on techno with the 1990 recording of "Go." It became an anthem of the international rave scene. But his resumΘ includes punk rocker and soundtrack composer as well as techno artist. "Play," one of coolest electronic-music albums of the year, has the stylistic breadth to appeal to the most dedicated fans of the genre as well as casual but adventurous pop listeners. Most of the album was recorded in his home studio in the South Bronx. Moby wrote all the songs and played all the instruments. He also sang on a number of tracks. "Play" opens with "Honey," featuring singer Bessie Jones' earthy vocals over Moby's funky, shuffling beats and pounding piano. Synthesizers brighten the pleading gospel vocals of "Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad?" And on "Natural Blues," Vera Hall, a gospel singer of the '40s, sings "Ooh, Lawdy, troubles so hard" over a rumbling honky-tonk piano that takes the floor right out from under you. Moby sampled vintage blues and gospel music from field recordings made by folklorist Alan Lomax in the 1920s, '30s and '40s. Some of Lomax's recordings are available on Atlantic Records and Rhino Records. "(Lomax) spent his whole life just driving around the country and recording as much indigenous music as he could get his hands on," Moby said. Lomax used some of the best recording equipment available at the time. "That's one of the reasons I was able to incorporate these vocals into the album," Moby said. "Some of his recordings are great to listen to, but they're sort of unusable because the sonic quality is so limited. But so many of them were pristinely recorded." Moby, a descendant of "Moby Dick" author Herman Melville, got his nickname from his parents (his real name is Richard Hall). His father died when he was 2. "I grew up in a musically eclectic household," he said. "My mom played piano and she was always listening to different kinds of music, everything from classical music to folk music to rock and jazz and pop and blues. "So I grew up hearing all these different types of music and she had lots of friends who were musicians. We always had a lot of musical instruments around and she encouraged me to take lessons and pursue music in any way that I wanted." Moby once quipped to a reporter that history's first rave might have been the celebration that greeted the arrival of the Ark of the Covenant in Jerusalem. His new album suggests a connection between the giddy excitement of rave music and the inspirational music of church. Though he isn't a religious person, Moby thanks Jesus Christ in the liner notes for "Play." "I love Christ and I love the teachings of Christ," he said. "But I don't see how by anyone's conventional definition I could be considered a religious person. My mother, if I could describe her, was a pantheist. She didn't have any specific religious belief." Moby's current tour included a stop at the recent Woodstock festival, where about $5,000 in Moby T-shirts and merchandise were trashed and burned by rioters. "I do my own merchandise, so it wasn't like they were sticking it to some faceless corporation. It was poor little me getting my T-shirts burned," Moby said. At End Fest, Moby will perform two sets, one as a DJ and another with a full band -- drummer, bassist, and a percussionist. The lineup at the Electronic Pavilion includes Freestylers, Len, Dub Pistols and Jungle Brothers. "End Fest '99," billed as an "All-Star Rock 'n' Roll Grudge Match," also features nearly a dozen modern-rock acts on the main stage. They include Blink 182, Citizen King, Kid Rock, Zebrahead, Primus, Deftones, Orgy, Eve 6, Joydrop and Pennywise. _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:41:00 -0400 From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) Even longer post, but please read Dan, i believe that Gwen Steffani (old debate! ack! run!) sang a version of South Side for Moby (which he was very thankful for and said she worked super-hard on). IN MY OPINION, if Moby wanted to "appeal" to a larger audience then he DEFINATELY would have chosen her version because she has had more radio play and exposure to mainstream than MOby has (I think we can all agree on the mainstream part). BUT instead, he chose HIS version of the song because he believed it felt more right (or he just liked it better). Wouldn't this suggest that he is just doing whatever-the-hell he wants and if you like it then WHOOOO-HOOO!! I agree that we can't like ALL of MOby's songs. A few here and there are crappy. At least he just doesn't make a WHOLE album of crap like some bands out there who have like ONE single and try to put out an album and MILK the one single for all it's worth (I don't blame them, but screw em anyway!). Later, Jayson - -----Original Message----- Fair enough. I agree. I don't think Moby qualifies as a Britney Spears/BSB Sellout at all. I do think that the release of a song like South Side suggests a desire to appeal to that audience. and that in this instance his taste produced a track (South Side) that is reaalllly poppy. I think the song is catchy. But it is not on the same level as Natural Blues or even a poppy song like Bodyrock. have wider appeal that produced "South Side" I do NOT think it is anywhere near as good a song as those are. Dan Lee aka Roy Batty _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 19:43:01 EDT From: MCGERMS@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Moby at toads place in CT Hi my name is jeremy and Im new to this list. I saw moby at toads and it was a great vibe. So many hot chicks . Moby is very talented. I would see his music go pretty far . I like the way he moves from one side of the stage to other. Well thats all I gotta say. keep it real moby fans Jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:56:00 -0400 From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: (mobility) RE: AJ!Live Show AJ, I believe the August show is an IN STUDIO kind of thing. I'm sure there will be more to come about this, but it will probably be impossible to get tickets ... - Jayson - -----Original Message----- From: mobility@lists.xmission.com at INTERNET Sent: Friday, August 06, 1999 1:40 PM To: mobility@lists.xmission.com at INTERNET Subject: (mobility) Live Show Attempt number 3. There is a Moby show in Boston on the 26th of August. Can anyone give me any information on this? All it says is the call letters of some radio station. Anyone know anything? Also, how many times do we need to have this selling out conversation. And to Mandi (?) even if Moby sells out you will still like him and it shouldn't matter if he sells out or not. When Prodigy sold old (changing from The Prodigy) their music completely changed and a lot of people who used to be fans didn't like them, or at least their new music anymore. So, should Moby sell out like that (he loves album right?) how can you say that you would still like him? I have around 60 dif Moby CDs, but if he made a an album like Fat of the Land, and continued in that course, I would quickly connect to eBay and make some of you happy. Of course, I doubt Moby would ever do that, but what if? Boston - please help! AJ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 12:08:00 -0400 From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: (mobility) Peanut: SELL OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN? I enjoyed what you had to say Peanut. It's a good reality-check. - Jayson - -----Original Message----- I don't need a mansion,or a limo,or my name up in lights.I don't want to be living on the streets again either.But if selling out to smaller degrees is the difference between making pizza's and making music,show mw the dotted line. "The only man I ever knew who didn't sell out was the man who died clutching his unfulfilled dreams in the street" much love peanut ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:04:00 -0400 From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: (mobility) In 5-10 years ... who will care? EXACTLY! example: Boyz2Men, who the hell cares about them now? nobody (well, maybe a couple people, but screw them too!) - Jayson - -----Original Message----- BSB, Spice girls, N-Synch, 98degrees and however many other manufactured pop groups their are making $. The only reason they are around is that people are spending money on their stuff. But hey, in 1 or 2 years will anyone really remember who BSB is or Ricky Martin, in 5-10 they will be completely wiped out of the society's collective consciousness. does it really matter who is more "hardcore" or and "honest" artist? people buy what they like, Pop music is usually trash anyway and you don't walk into a Wal-Mat and honesty expect a good selection of Moby imports....nonono...you get top 40 pop. Everything is relative! - --- Chris Stepanek - Designer - Nicholson | NY cstepanek@nny.com - ICQ# 25163388 - --- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:14:00 -0400 From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) what makes it great... Good question!!! the harmony (like in Porcelain, EverLoving)<-- Sarah agrees! the creativity (like in Sunday, ARP, Shining) I REALLY enjoy when I hear a song and say to myself: "WOW! How did they ever THINK to come up with that?! They're a musical genius!" MOBY makes me think this ALL the time. Some of his music is so SIMPLE yet PERFECT. Moby brings out images and moods in me (and my mind) that other artists just DON'T DO. Why? Maybe he puts more feeling or time into his work. Who knows? But when I hear it I just CANNOT believe it! It's songs like PORCELAIN/EVERLOVING that I can listen to OVER and OVER again and NEVER get tired of listening to them. BTW - I'm REALLY starting to get crazy for "Rushing". The more I hear that song the more I am REALLY liking it. So peaceful! It puts me at ease. good question! - Jayson - -----Original Message----- just out of curiosity... what makes a song great: a catchy melody? the artist behind it? the emotion it evokes in you? the lyrics? I was just wondering why you guys love the music that you do... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 19:57:53 -0500 From: John Turpin <jct1@Ra.MsState.Edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) -->intro for travis. >my first audio experience of moby was after i bought >animal rights. i really enjoy his work, and look >foward to seeing him perform live in 2 days at >Endfest, a local mucic festival. As in, New Orleans? Moby's playing at Endfest?! :\ I wish I'd known. :( - -- "The unlived life is not worth examining." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 19:10:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Bjorkdoll <slurb@scn.org> Subject: Re: (mobility) -->intro for travis. On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, John Turpin wrote: > >my first audio experience of moby was after i bought > >animal rights. i really enjoy his work, and look > >foward to seeing him perform live in 2 days at > >Endfest, a local mucic festival. > > As in, New Orleans? Moby's playing at Endfest?! :\ I wish I'd known. :( Hmmm...I thought Travis was talking about the Endfest here in Seattle that is sponsored by KNDD - 107.7 The End...a local radio station. Sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html :::::::::::::::::::::::::::rescue me:::::::::: ::::::::::::::::from levelheadedness:::::::::: ::::::::::and the unnecessary luxury:::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::of being calm:::::::::: ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 19:27:02 -0700 (PDT) From: julius marx <cerebusluvsjaka@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) moby never.... moby never talks about anything but his own music. when moby talks about his music, he makes sure that he's always talking about the next thing that will be coming out so people can go buy it. and just to be sure he get's his point across, he says it when half the people aren't listening, so he get's to talk about it himself. he does that with tour dates as well. because no one should have to call bass or ticketmaster or there local ticket seller. and they DEFINITELY shouldn't have to go to someplace that sells tickets and ask when and where he's playing. he's also really concerned that people think he may be a sell out. that's why he keeps making records that have a bunch of different types of music on them so that they can't be classified as one thing. that way the sell millions of albums and he's all over mtv just like the backstreet boys. who moby really admires. oh yeah! and all those things he writes about in his cd inserts, they don't mean anything! he has a ghost writer type those up so that he'll be more excepted by the mainstream and sell even more records! but he never discusses them..no,no! 'k, gotta go, buh-bye! met some cool people on this list! but i'm getting too much email. i think i'll check back in six months or so to see what's going on. not that i expect it to change much. here i go to un-subscribe! which means that christian is, outta your lives! peace-christian _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:38:00 -0400 From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) Live Show (non moby kinda) yup! Good ol Boston radio - -----Original Message----- From: mobility@lists.xmission.com at INTERNET Sent: Friday, August 06, 1999 12:12 PM To: <mobility@lists.xmission.com> at INTERNET Subject: RE: (mobility) Live Show (non moby kinda) > i believe the call letters of the radio station are: WBCN hey isnt that the beginning of Fatboy Slim's Rockerfella Skank? The little radio dj part in the beginning? yus vunderin eric ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 23:45:40 -0400 From: "nodata@pop.prodigy.net" <nodata@pop.prodigy.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby at toads place in CT oh ya i was there too. the show was rocking. it was like the best show i've seen in the last couples of months. - - raine Original Message: - ----------------- Hi my name is jeremy and Im new to this list. I saw moby at toads and it was a great vibe. So many hot chicks . Moby is very talented. I would see his music go pretty far . I like the way he moves from one side of the stage to other. Well thats all I gotta say. keep it real moby fans Jeremy - --------------------------------------------------------------------- This message has been posted from Mail2Web (http://www.mail2web.com/) Web Hosting for $9.95 per month! Visit: (http://www.yourhosting.com/) - --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 08:17:05 +0200 From: but not _the_ frankz <frankz@dds.nl> Subject: (mobility) most art = Mozart what makes a song great? is a great question. someone wrote: > i mean yeah, moby is cool and all > that but nothing off play would make it onto my top 25 songs > of all time. i think NAWWW you dont know that, just guessing, let me tell you about Mozart, the little motherfucker, now do you think Mozart would be thinking he was in the top 10 100 of all times? no way, in the 1800' let's say 1902 NOBODY knew Mozart, he was an ass name from the old days, and in my filosophy he still is, ONLY because of a Hollywood movie he became famous again, some ass played his HAIR or sumthing, i never saw the film, but i tell you, Mozart is the MINOR Michael Jackson of his time... So dont talk about songs getting great, cause it's all Pavlov! Pavlov is what makes a song great When your saliva (???) runs in your mouth, that's when a song is great, it's already there, it was there allways and allways will be there, there's in fact ONLY one song great, and that is the song that GOD sings: and it's called: Why Does My heart Feel So Black? - - what makes a song great is the percentage of honesty, ha and the way they have ears open, not forget only 5% of humans pop can listen! not much heh? rest is def(t) think about music as wallpaper, so dont worry, only 5% of Mobility members have ears too that's the way it goes folks, with percentages... i'm sorry, Geniuses have always ears, now how many percentage is Genius? - ----------- Last week i bought a cd (5,-) just because it looked right and it was called: "Uncle Meat", <Underneath>, i dont know but i liked the cover, and it's good Speed-garage or something, no.... Concrete metal? eh Dub-techno, nah i dont know, but it's GOOD! So Paul, yo tape is ready! comin up state! "I dont want NOBODY to run my life!" (mixmastermorris) 'where are my clothes?' (kees) - -- - --------------- i live in a car ------------------------------ End of mobility-digest V2 #75 ***************************** ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility-digest" in the body.